1st stage of Best of 2008: MGS4 wins 5 awards!

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#1 THQ88
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MGS4 is nominated in 8 awards:

Game of the Year
Best PS3
Best Action Adventure
Best Story
Best Boss Fights
Best Graphics, Technical
Best Voice Acting
Most Memorable Moment

1st round is over and MGS4 WON EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The highlighted ones are the awards that it won today.

Come the 24th, 25th and 26th and we shall know if it takes the rest. I think MGS4 is getting GOTY this year!!!!!! AWESOME!!!! Congratulations Mr.Kojima!!!!!

Metal Gear FTW!!!

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#2 demon565
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Are you going by gamespot's GOTY?
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Yay??
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wow ...Mr. Kojima deserves it :)
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It really won best technical graphics? A little part of me just died inside.
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MGS4 is nominated in 8 awards:

Game of the Year
Best PS3
Best Action Adventure
Best Story
Best Boss Fights
Best Graphics, Technical
Best Voice Acting
Most Memorable Moment

1st round is over and MGS4 WON EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The highlighted ones are the awards that it won today.

Come the 24th, 25th and 26th and we shall know if it takes the rest. I think MGS4 is getting GOTY this year!!!!!! AWESOME!!!! Congratulations Mr.Kojima!!!!!

Metal Gear FTW!!!

THQ88

Do you honestly believe there wasn't some degree of bias in there? Hell, it even beat out Crysis Warhead for best graphics. Doesn't that raise some alarms for you?

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I finished the game last month, and it deserves it. All of it.

The final Act where you go on the ship was just.......literally epic.

The game was perfect in every way I can think of, and I'm a PC guy.

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#8 THQ88
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[QUOTE="THQ88"]

MGS4 is nominated in 8 awards:

Game of the Year
Best PS3
Best Action Adventure
Best Story
Best Boss Fights
Best Graphics, Technical
Best Voice Acting
Most Memorable Moment

1st round is over and MGS4 WON EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The highlighted ones are the awards that it won today.

Come the 24th, 25th and 26th and we shall know if it takes the rest. I think MGS4 is getting GOTY this year!!!!!! AWESOME!!!! Congratulations Mr.Kojima!!!!!

Metal Gear FTW!!!

thepwninator

Do you honestly believe there wasn't some degree of bias in there? Hell, it even beat out Crysis Warhead for best graphics. Doesn't that raise some alarms for you?

The people voted. It's not one person's opinion but MANY. Crysis won last year. MGS4 graphics are EPIC on a technical level!

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I finished the game last month, and it deserves it. All of it.

The final Act where you go on the ship was just.......literally epic.

The game was perfect in every way I can think of, and I'm a PC guy.

fatzebra
So you honestly believe that it has more technically impressive graphics than Crysis?
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#10 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="thepwninator"]

Do you honestly believe there wasn't some degree of bias in there? Hell, it even beat out Crysis Warhead for best graphics. Doesn't that raise some alarms for you?

THQ88

The people voted. It's not one person's opinion but MANY. Crysis won last year. MGS4 graphics are EPIC on a technical level!

And Crysis Warhead deserves to win this year. It beat MGS into the ground.

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Every generation is remembered by a few classics, MGS4 is one of those titles of this gen. Games like MGS4 don't come around very often so I think the awards are well deserved. The only one I might argue with is best graphics. It's up there and they are some of the best, but I'm not sure about the best.
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[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="THQ88"]

MGS4 is nominated in 8 awards:

Game of the Year
Best PS3
Best Action Adventure
Best Story
Best Boss Fights
Best Graphics, Technical
Best Voice Acting
Most Memorable Moment

1st round is over and MGS4 WON EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The highlighted ones are the awards that it won today.

Come the 24th, 25th and 26th and we shall know if it takes the rest. I think MGS4 is getting GOTY this year!!!!!! AWESOME!!!! Congratulations Mr.Kojima!!!!!

Metal Gear FTW!!!

THQ88

Do you honestly believe there wasn't some degree of bias in there? Hell, it even beat out Crysis Warhead for best graphics. Doesn't that raise some alarms for you?

The people voted. It's not one person's opinion but MANY. Crysis won last year. MGS4 graphics are EPIC on a technical level!

Those were editor's choice awards; our "voting" was unattached to it. The actual awards you saw? Your votes had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

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#13 demon565
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This is dumb no way it was more impressive than Crysis. And if your going by gamespot's list I think its a fail list. I mean not even including Gears 2 in there, not even for Xbox 360 GOTY.
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Well its official, gamespot has absolutely 0 credibility now.
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[QUOTE="THQ88"]

MGS4 is nominated in 8 awards:

Game of the Year
Best PS3
Best Action Adventure
Best Story
Best Boss Fights
Best Graphics, Technical
Best Voice Acting
Most Memorable Moment

1st round is over and MGS4 WON EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The highlighted ones are the awards that it won today.

Come the 24th, 25th and 26th and we shall know if it takes the rest. I think MGS4 is getting GOTY this year!!!!!! AWESOME!!!! Congratulations Mr.Kojima!!!!!

Metal Gear FTW!!!

thepwninator

Do you honestly believe there wasn't some degree of bias in there? Hell, it even beat out Crysis Warhead for best graphics. Doesn't that raise some alarms for you?

It beat crysis because crysis had no limits. It was on a computer, so they could push past current technology and future proof their game. However, do you see that word "technical"? It means which game is technically the most efficient in the graphics department. Metal Gear Solid 4 pushed the PS3 to it's limits, and wow does it look amazing.

It also has some play in it. The active camo was an outstanding feature. Don't get me wrong, Crysis looks better, no contest. However, I promise you, if Crysis was optimized for the PS3, it wouldn't come close.

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MGS4 over Crysis Warhead for technical graphics? That's a lie, Gamespot. It's not cool to mislead your readers.
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#17 fatzebra
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[QUOTE="fatzebra"]

I finished the game last month, and it deserves it. All of it.

The final Act where you go on the ship was just.......literally epic.

The game was perfect in every way I can think of, and I'm a PC guy.

thepwninator
So you honestly believe that it has more technically impressive graphics than Crysis?

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#18 THQ88
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[QUOTE="THQ88"][QUOTE="thepwninator"]

Do you honestly believe there wasn't some degree of bias in there? Hell, it even beat out Crysis Warhead for best graphics. Doesn't that raise some alarms for you?

thepwninator

The people voted. It's not one person's opinion but MANY. Crysis won last year. MGS4 graphics are EPIC on a technical level!

Those were editor's choice awards; our "voting" was unattached to it. The actual awards you saw? Your votes had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Still MANY MANY people loved the art style in MGS4 and I'm one of them. Graphics is preference whether you like it or not.

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Looks to me like gamers thrive off nostalgia and 'epic' cutscenes.
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it deserves all of them except graphics, crysis graphics are jaw dropping
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#21 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="thepwninator"]

Do you honestly believe there wasn't some degree of bias in there? Hell, it even beat out Crysis Warhead for best graphics. Doesn't that raise some alarms for you?fatzebra

It beat crysis because crysis had no limits. It was on a computer, so they could push past current technology and future proof their game. However, do you see that word "technical"? It means which game is technically the most efficient in the graphics department. Metal Gear Solid 4 pushed the PS3 to it's limits, and wow does it look amazing.

It also has some play in it. The active camo was an outstanding feature. Don't get me wrong, Crysis looks better, no contest. However, I promise you, if Crysis was optimized for the PS3, it wouldn't come close.

"Push past current technology"? I wonder how anyone can play the game with "current technology" then.

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#22 thepwninator
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[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="THQ88"]

MGS4 is nominated in 8 awards:

Game of the Year
Best PS3
Best Action Adventure
Best Story
Best Boss Fights
Best Graphics, Technical
Best Voice Acting
Most Memorable Moment

1st round is over and MGS4 WON EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The highlighted ones are the awards that it won today.

Come the 24th, 25th and 26th and we shall know if it takes the rest. I think MGS4 is getting GOTY this year!!!!!! AWESOME!!!! Congratulations Mr.Kojima!!!!!

Metal Gear FTW!!!

fatzebra

Do you honestly believe there wasn't some degree of bias in there? Hell, it even beat out Crysis Warhead for best graphics. Doesn't that raise some alarms for you?

It beat crysis because crysis had no limits. It was on a computer, so they could push past current technology and future proof their game. However, do you see that word "technical"? It means which game is technically the most efficient in the graphics department. Metal Gear Solid 4 pushed the PS3 to it's limits, and wow does it look amazing.

It also has some play in it. The active camo was an outstanding feature. Don't get me wrong, Crysis looks better, no contest. However, I promise you, if Crysis was optimized for the PS3, it wouldn't come close.

I have always been under the impression that when they say "best graphics (technical)" they mean "most impressive graphics (technical)", not "most efficient graphics engine". Past winners of this award show this. Also, if you weighed graphics against the limitations of the platform it's on, then it is entirely possible for, say, a DS game to win it. Do you believe that that is absurd? I do.

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Still MANY MANY people loved the art style in MGS4 and I'm one of them. Graphics is preference whether you like it or not.THQ88
Sorry, but the title of the award says: "best graphics, technical", not "best graphics, art style". 0 Credibility from Glitch(flop)spot confirmed. I wonder how Giant Bomb's ones would turn out to be.
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#24 Hitman533
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Well its official, gamespot has absolutely 0 credibility now.Vaasman
Why is gamespot's fault? The people voted for MGS4 not gamespot. Unless you think what the majority of people think have 0 credibility. MGS4 deserves GOTY and I think it will win.
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#25 thepwninator
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[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="THQ88"]

The people voted. It's not one person's opinion but MANY. Crysis won last year. MGS4 graphics are EPIC on a technical level!

THQ88

Those were editor's choice awards; our "voting" was unattached to it. The actual awards you saw? Your votes had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Still MANY MANY people loved the art style in MGS4 and I'm one of them. Graphics is preference whether you like it or not.

But that wasn't the award for "best graphics-artistic" :?

"Best graphics-technical" is far more objective, and Crysis: Warhead's graphics are, objectively, far better than MGS4's.

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[QUOTE="fatzebra"][QUOTE="thepwninator"]

Do you honestly believe there wasn't some degree of bias in there? Hell, it even beat out Crysis Warhead for best graphics. Doesn't that raise some alarms for you?Cherokee_Jack

It beat crysis because crysis had no limits. It was on a computer, so they could push past current technology and future proof their game. However, do you see that word "technical"? It means which game is technically the most efficient in the graphics department. Metal Gear Solid 4 pushed the PS3 to it's limits, and wow does it look amazing.

It also has some play in it. The active camo was an outstanding feature. Don't get me wrong, Crysis looks better, no contest. However, I promise you, if Crysis was optimized for the PS3, it wouldn't come close.

"Push past current technology"? I wonder how anyone can play the game with "current technology" then.

Please pay attention. I never said it couldn't be played. But there isn't a reasonable obtainable machine (under 5K) at this time, that can completely max the game with a good FPS. The graphics are a little ahead of their time, because they could do so on a PC. MGS4 didn't have that luxury, but still came out to be amazing to look at and did the ABSOLUTE BEST at what it could. THAT is why it won technical.
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graphics don't deserve the award but EVERYTHING else do :D
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Those were editor's choice awards; our "voting" was unattached to it. The actual awards you saw? Your votes had nothing whatsoever to do with it. thepwninator
I didn't even realize that. Now it's even more idiotic.
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#29 THQ88
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Well its official, gamespot has absolutely 0 credibility now.Hitman533
Why is gamespot's fault? The people voted for MGS4 not gamespot. Unless you think what the majority of people think have 0 credibility. MGS4 deserves GOTY and I think it will win.

True. The editor must have followed and agreed on both the review they wrote on MGS4 where they actually mentioned that MGS4 had the best graphics technically and what the people voted. Accept it.

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#30 thepwninator
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Well its official, gamespot has absolutely 0 credibility now.Hitman533
Why is gamespot's fault? The people voted for MGS4 not gamespot. Unless you think what the majority of people think have 0 credibility. MGS4 deserves GOTY and I think it will win.

*sigh* the voting has absolutely nothing to do with the awards doled out. The awards doled out today were the Editor's Choice awards, not the Reader's Choice awards, and that is why you can still vote. Didn't you think it would be odd if you could still vote for a game for an award even after the award has been given?
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[QUOTE="fatzebra"][QUOTE="thepwninator"]

Do you honestly believe there wasn't some degree of bias in there? Hell, it even beat out Crysis Warhead for best graphics. Doesn't that raise some alarms for you?thepwninator

It beat crysis because crysis had no limits. It was on a computer, so they could push past current technology and future proof their game. However, do you see that word "technical"? It means which game is technically the most efficient in the graphics department. Metal Gear Solid 4 pushed the PS3 to it's limits, and wow does it look amazing.

It also has some play in it. The active camo was an outstanding feature. Don't get me wrong, Crysis looks better, no contest. However, I promise you, if Crysis was optimized for the PS3, it wouldn't come close.

I have always been under the impression that when they say "best graphics (technical)" they mean "most impressive graphics (technical)", not "most efficient graphics engine". Past winners of this award show this. Also, if you weighed graphics against the limitations of the platform it's on, then it is entirely possible for, say, a DS game to win it. Do you believe that that is absurd? I do.

If there is ever a DS game that looks as good as say....... Call of Duty (1), then I will vote for that as best graphics all day long.

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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Well its official, gamespot has absolutely 0 credibility now.Hitman533
Why is gamespot's fault? The people voted for MGS4 not gamespot. Unless you think what the majority of people think have 0 credibility. MGS4 deserves GOTY and I think it will win.

First of all the majority of people DO have 0 credibility, but second and most important, these are editor choice, not voter's choice. That means gamespot is making the conscious decision that they as a company think MGS4 has better technical graphics than crysis warhead, and that, is absolute garbage.
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Well its official, gamespot has absolutely 0 credibility now.Hitman533
Why is gamespot's fault? The people voted for MGS4 not gamespot. Unless you think what the majority of people think have 0 credibility. MGS4 deserves GOTY and I think it will win.

The editor's choice was MGS4 too. That isn't influenced by the votes, as is obvious from the fact that Valkyria Chronicles won Artistic Graphics with 10% of the vote.
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"Best Graphics, Technical" Sorry this is a joke, I say they won four, not five.
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Looks to me like gamers thrive off nostalgia and 'epic' cutscenes.AAllxxjjnn
Nail on the head. Agreed.
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I guess the check for the 10 was for a few other things too! :P

EDIT can I also say that Brucie winning new character of the year is a disgrace too GS. I ****ing hated him

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I'm an MGS fan and I think it shouldn't of won Best Graphics Technical if they had 3 Graphical categories like Best Graphics Technical PC, Best Graphics Technical Consoles, and Best Graphics Artistic. If they had 3 Graphic categories I would say MGS4 would win the Consoles Technical.

But the best news was [spoiler] Valkyria Chronicles [/spoiler] won Best Graphics Artistic.

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="fatzebra"]

It beat crysis because crysis had no limits. It was on a computer, so they could push past current technology and future proof their game. However, do you see that word "technical"? It means which game is technically the most efficient in the graphics department. Metal Gear Solid 4 pushed the PS3 to it's limits, and wow does it look amazing.

It also has some play in it. The active camo was an outstanding feature. Don't get me wrong, Crysis looks better, no contest. However, I promise you, if Crysis was optimized for the PS3, it wouldn't come close.

fatzebra

"Push past current technology"? I wonder how anyone can play the game with "current technology" then.

Please pay attention. I never said it couldn't be played. But there isn't a reasonable obtainable machine (under 5K) at this time, that can completely max the game with a good FPS. The graphics are a little ahead of their time, because they could do so on a PC. MGS4 didn't have that luxury, but still came out to be amazing to look at and did the ABSOLUTE BEST at what it could. THAT is why it won technical.

So they should rename the award to "Best Job Done With Available Graphics Hardware". "Best Graphics, Technical" is pretty misleading.

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Man did Crysis Warhead sleep with their mom or something.. They seem awful mad at this game...

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Must have been "The Patriots" then....
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#41 fatzebra
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[QUOTE="fatzebra"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

"Push past current technology"? I wonder how anyone can play the game with "current technology" then.

Cherokee_Jack

Please pay attention. I never said it couldn't be played. But there isn't a reasonable obtainable machine (under 5K) at this time, that can completely max the game with a good FPS. The graphics are a little ahead of their time, because they could do so on a PC. MGS4 didn't have that luxury, but still came out to be amazing to look at and did the ABSOLUTE BEST at what it could. THAT is why it won technical.

So they should rename the award to "Best Job Done With Available Graphics Hardware". "Best Graphics, Technical" is pretty misleading.

Actually, it isn't, with a little common sense.

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#42 masterdante
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i think crysis didnt win because its an expansion of last years game, even though its a stand alone expansion, crysis won last year, seriously enough talk about crysis already, and the achievement was for best graphics, technical, if i remember correctly Super Mario galaxy was nominated last year and no one had a fit about it even though it look worse than any game released on competing consoles, people chill out and calm down already, i think MGS deserved it
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#43 Hockey_Slayer
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="fatzebra"] Please pay attention. I never said it couldn't be played. But there isn't a reasonable obtainable machine (under 5K) at this time, that can completely max the game with a good FPS. The graphics are a little ahead of their time, because they could do so on a PC. MGS4 didn't have that luxury, but still came out to be amazing to look at and did the ABSOLUTE BEST at what it could. THAT is why it won technical.fatzebra

So they should rename the award to "Best Job Done With Available Graphics Hardware". "Best Graphics, Technical" is pretty misleading.

Actually, it isn't, with a little common sense.

Common sense is long gone. Because if anyone had common sense they would know that Crisis Warhead just stright up looks better then MGS4.
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#44 THQ88
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i think crysis didnt win because its an expansion of last years game, even though its a stand alone expansion, crysis won last year, seriously enough talk about crysis already, and the achievement was for best graphics, technical, if i remember correctly Super Mario galaxy was nominated last year and no one had a fit about it even though it look worse than any game released on competing consoles, people chill out and calm down already, i think MGS deserved itmasterdante

That is so true. Warhead is just an expansion to the game that won best graphics last year. I don't even think it should be on that list. MGS4 deserves it, period.

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#45 c1o2d3y
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[QUOTE="fatzebra"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

So they should rename the award to "Best Job Done With Available Graphics Hardware". "Best Graphics, Technical" is pretty misleading.Hockey_Slayer

Actually, it isn't, with a little common sense.

Common sense is long gone. Because if anyone had common sense they would know that Crisis Warhead just stright up looks better then MGS4.

Yes, but only because its on the PC. This wasnt a straight up Graphics competition
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#46 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="fatzebra"] Please pay attention. I never said it couldn't be played. But there isn't a reasonable obtainable machine (under 5K) at this time, that can completely max the game with a good FPS. The graphics are a little ahead of their time, because they could do so on a PC. MGS4 didn't have that luxury, but still came out to be amazing to look at and did the ABSOLUTE BEST at what it could. THAT is why it won technical.fatzebra

So they should rename the award to "Best Job Done With Available Graphics Hardware". "Best Graphics, Technical" is pretty misleading.

Actually, it isn't, with a little common sense.

Go on.

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#47 Flam3Thr0w3r
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Why on earth was Saints Row 2 not a nominee for funniest game?!
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#48 Gamingcucumber
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First of all. Metal Gear Solid never had a good story to begin with, never had good gameplay, never had a good art style. It did however have high production values and good voice work. And if there is money and hype involved people buys it. Look at Halo. In fact, I would rank Metal Gear Solid head and shoulders with Halo.
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#49 masterdante
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[QUOTE="masterdante"]i think crysis didnt win because its an expansion of last years game, even though its a stand alone expansion, crysis won last year, seriously enough talk about crysis already, and the achievement was for best graphics, technical, if i remember correctly Super Mario galaxy was nominated last year and no one had a fit about it even though it look worse than any game released on competing consoles, people chill out and calm down already, i think MGS deserved itTHQ88

That is so true. Warhead is just an expansion to the game that won best graphics last year. I don't even think it should be on that list. MGS4 deserves it, period.

and what else was it competing against? gears 2? they cant really give it to that game either because its running off the same engine the first game was and that won 2 years ago, and imo would seem a bit redundant because it really wasnt big enough of a leap from the first to really deserve to get it once again.

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#50 dk_2007
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Today MGS4 won the "best technical graphics" and Gamespot also won an award "the most ..."