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#51 VFighter
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@dabear: PS2 had the better library of games, like it's not even close here. Its also the highest selling console of all time. PS2 win.

PS3 was more powerful, had a better library of games (much closer this time though), free online play and outsold the 360. PS3 win.

PS4 vs Xbone... 🤣 nuff said.

Again thanks for the 😂

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#52  Edited By dabear
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@vfighter said:

@dabear: PS2 had the better library of games, like it's not even close here. Its also the highest selling console of all time. PS2 win.

PS3 was more powerful, had a better library of games (much closer this time though), free online play and outsold the 360. PS3 win.

PS4 vs Xbone... 🤣 nuff said.

Again thanks for the 😂

The PS2 had a few years head start. And, when they went head to head, the XBox's library was just fine.

The PS3 did not have a better library of games.

You can "laugh" all you want, but that doesn't make you right. In fact, it just makes you look silly.

And, going through your post history - you are quite the Playstation "super fanboy", aren't you? You're all up here talking trash about MS "paying" for studios, when four of Sony's biggest hitters (Insomniac, Guerrilla, Naughty Dog, and Sucker Punch) were acquired studios.

Talk about self-ownage...

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#53 Pedro
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@vfighter said:

@dabear: PS2 had the better library of games, like it's not even close here. Its also the highest selling console of all time. PS2 win.

PS3 was more powerful, had a better library of games (much closer this time though), free online play and outsold the 360. PS3 win.

PS4 vs Xbone... 🤣 nuff said.

Again thanks for the 😂

The PS3 was not more powerful and it having a better library is highly debatable.

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#54 lebanese_boy
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Not gonna lie, the last eight years could have been better.

You're not wrong there.

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#55 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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I still remember reading about "Halo" in GamePro they did a big article said you need to get this I got the system it was pretty cool but I never got Halo 2 and was a big PC guy. That controller was huge and i had to get my xbox thompson drive repaired took over a month if i remember right.

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#56 DaVillain  Moderator
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@lebanese_boy said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Not gonna lie, the last eight years could have been better.

You're not wrong there.

For once, I totally agree with Benjamin. Xbox 360 was my favorite console what MS had to offer but totally drop the ball on Xbox One.

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#57 Pedro
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@davillain- said:
@lebanese_boy said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Not gonna lie, the last eight years could have been better.

You're not wrong there.

For once, I totally agree with Benjamin. Xbox 360 was my favorite console what MS had to offer but totally drop the ball on Xbox One.

I am glad they dropped the ball to be honest. If the 360 arrogance was left unchecked, gaming would have been $#@*ed. Because of that massive misstep we have Xbox PlayAnywhere, GamePass and a strong focus on democratizing gaming. Needless to say, I hated the 360 era.

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#58  Edited By deactivated-654dc0d1e0e5b
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A worthy competitor to whom? Microsoft isn't competing with Sony. They have their eyes on the other trillion dollar companies entering the gaming sphere. Sony isn't a threat.

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#59 Pedro
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@theam0g said:

A worthy competitor to whom? Microsoft isn't competing with Sony. They have their eyes on the other trillion dollar companies entering the gaming sphere. Sony isn't a threat.

It is more like Sony isn't in the scope of MS long-term intentions.

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#60 sealionact
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@SolidGame_basic: Console shooters blew up? No idea how titles like Fortnite and COD are the among biggest money makers in the industry then.

Weren’t Cows announcing Returnal as the second coming?

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#61 Pedro
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@sealionact said:

@SolidGame_basic: Console shooters blew up? No idea how titles like Fortnite and COD are the among biggest money makers in the industry then.

Weren’t Cows announcing Returnal as the second coming?

I hope it is the number one selling game for May. It would be shame. I know we will hear from them if it is and they would go into hiding if it didn't.

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#62 VFighter
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@theam0g: MS isn't competing with Sony...because they can't, it's really that simple. They've tried multiple times and failed.

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#63 NathanDrakeSwag
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@vfighter said:

@theam0g: MS isn't competing with Sony...because they can't, it's really that simple. They've tried multiple times and failed.

Facts. Lemmings live in fantasy land and believe that Microsoft is making dedicated gaming hardware and buying up Bethesda to compete with...Kindle lol.

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#64 dabear
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@vfighter said:

@theam0g: MS isn't competing with Sony...because they can't, it's really that simple. They've tried multiple times and failed.

Facts. Lemmings live in fantasy land and believe that Microsoft is making dedicated gaming hardware and buying up Bethesda to compete with...Kindle lol.

Except - the beat Sony in the 360 era. So... your argument is hilariously fallacious.

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#65 Pedro
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Facts. Lemmings live in fantasy land and believe that Microsoft is making dedicated gaming hardware and buying up Bethesda to compete with...Kindle lol.

I am really interesting in who are these Xbox fannies who believe that Bethesda purchase is to compete with Kindle. Please share this information. 😎

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#66 NathanDrakeSwag
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@dabear said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@vfighter said:

@theam0g: MS isn't competing with Sony...because they can't, it's really that simple. They've tried multiple times and failed.

Facts. Lemmings live in fantasy land and believe that Microsoft is making dedicated gaming hardware and buying up Bethesda to compete with...Kindle lol.

Except - the beat Sony in the 360 era. So... your argument is hilariously fallacious.

They beat Sony by selling less consoles with a year longer on the market? That's certainly a take.

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#67 dabear
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@dabear said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@vfighter said:

@theam0g: MS isn't competing with Sony...because they can't, it's really that simple. They've tried multiple times and failed.

Facts. Lemmings live in fantasy land and believe that Microsoft is making dedicated gaming hardware and buying up Bethesda to compete with...Kindle lol.

Except - the beat Sony in the 360 era. So... your argument is hilariously fallacious.

They beat Sony by selling less consoles with a year longer on the market? That's certainly a take.

They beat the PS3 everywhere except Japan - US/EU developers ignored the PS3 that gen, sparking the phrases "PC/360 title" and "console exclusive".

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#68 NathanDrakeSwag
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@dabear said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@dabear said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@vfighter said:

@theam0g: MS isn't competing with Sony...because they can't, it's really that simple. They've tried multiple times and failed.

Facts. Lemmings live in fantasy land and believe that Microsoft is making dedicated gaming hardware and buying up Bethesda to compete with...Kindle lol.

Except - the beat Sony in the 360 era. So... your argument is hilariously fallacious.

They beat Sony by selling less consoles with a year longer on the market? That's certainly a take.

They beat the PS3 everywhere except Japan - US/EU developers ignored the PS3 that gen, sparking the phrases "PC/360 title" and "console exclusive".

That was at the start of last gen. By the middle and end Sony had Gaben on their stage praising PS3 and most multiplats were running better on PS3.

Sony handed Microsoft a gift and they dropped it by shifting all of their focus to Kinect. They still haven't recovered from it.

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#69 deactivated-60c3d23d2738e
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We don't care about stuff like this as Cows do. You guys love sales, must own stock.

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#70 Pedro
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PS3 won when the fight was over.🤣😂

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#71 dabear
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@dabear said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@dabear said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Facts. Lemmings live in fantasy land and believe that Microsoft is making dedicated gaming hardware and buying up Bethesda to compete with...Kindle lol.

Except - the beat Sony in the 360 era. So... your argument is hilariously fallacious.

They beat Sony by selling less consoles with a year longer on the market? That's certainly a take.

They beat the PS3 everywhere except Japan - US/EU developers ignored the PS3 that gen, sparking the phrases "PC/360 title" and "console exclusive".

That was at the start of last gen. By the middle and end Sony had Gaben on their stage praising PS3 and most multiplats were running better on PS3.

Sony handed Microsoft a gift and they dropped it by shifting all of their focus to Kinect. They still haven't recovered from it.

You weren't even herefor the PS3/360/Wii console gen. Please stop trying to rewrite history.

MS's Xbox One failures were quite similar to Sony's PS3 failures - charging more money for an interior product; while at the same time, reeking of arrogance.

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#72 SolidGame_basic  Online
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@sleepnsurf said:

We don't care about stuff like this as Cows do. You guys love sales, must own stock.

You cared enough to post.

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#73 robert_sparkes
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I still remember when i upgraded from the ps2 to the og xbox such a noticeable difference.

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#74 SolidGame_basic  Online
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@robert_sparkes said:

I still remember when i upgraded from the ps2 to the og xbox such a noticeable difference.

Yea, the Xbox had such a worse library. Sorry you had to experience that!

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#75 Pedro
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The salt is real. Exhibit A above.😂 Too bad salt can't increase your PS5 SSD capacity.😎

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#76 Archangel3371
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@robert_sparkes: Yeah same here. Ninja Gaiden still is a really good looking game to this day.

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#77 Jag85
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The OG Xbox was a great console. Didn't care much for its successors though.

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#78 VFighter
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@dabear: Only difference is the PS3 beat the 360, even after it's horrible launch and the 360 having a full year of sales before the ps3 released. I didn't need to be on this message board back then to know this basic info. 🤣

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#79  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@Pedro: BOOM! Mic drop.

EDIT: Anyway, happy 20th to XBOX. I admit, I was one of those haters, but since owning a 360 (late in it's lifecycle), I've been a fan and slowly, grown to prefer them over PlayStation (to which only the PS3 was the last PS with the most interesting library, PS4 and PS5 killed that for me, sadly).

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#80 Robbie23
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Can we just agree that both Sony and Microsoft have good games, lol.

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#82  Edited By SolidGame_basic  Online
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@robbie23: they do, but proportionally, Sony has much more.

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#83 dabear
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@vfighter said:

@dabear: Only difference is the PS3 beat the 360, even after it's horrible launch and the 360 having a full year of sales before the ps3 released. I didn't need to be on this message board back then to know this basic info. 🤣

Umm... it most certainly did not. It may have ended up with a higher total globally, but that is because it sold 12:1 in Japan. In the rest of the world, it got trounced.

Look, I know you're a PS fan, and that's swell - but please stop debating this topic, it's impossible for you to win.

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#84 drummerdave9099
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Hoping they can end up with a machine that stands out this gen xD

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@uninspiredcup said:

Thank you for evolving ruining FPS. Popularizing paid online by default. Ruining Peter Molyneux career by allowing him to speak and popularizing wall-cover as the norm in third person shooters.

Excellent contributions to the world.

Thank you.

Indeed. Thanks Microsoft.

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#87 VFighter
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@dabear: Oh the "well if you don't count the sales here, here or there the 360 won" defense. 🤣 It's been awhile since I've seen that used.

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Congrats to XBox. I can't say I've ever loved one of mine - but I have had a good amount of good times on their games and services over the years, with the peak definitely being my OG Xbox. I also firmly believe Xbox keeps Sony on their toes and the industry would be much worse without them

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#89 dabear
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@vfighter said:

@dabear: Oh the "well if you don't count the sales here, here or there the 360 won" defense. 🤣 It's been awhile since I've seen that used.

It's just Japan.

And, it doesn't matter if you laugh, I am right. The 360 sold more than the PS3 in everywhere except Japan, and pushed record attachment rates. So, it was the more successful platform.

/thread

thanks for playing.

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#90 Heil68
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Not gonna lie, the last eight years could have been better.

The Flop was real

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#91 ROCKBO
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Honestly, I'm never going to forgive xbox/halo for getting rid of health bars and replacing them with basically a health regen "shield" like you see in CoD and other trans FPS games. like, "oh, i havent been shot in 30 seconds, so obviously all of my wounds are healed!"

No. Stop.

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#92  Edited By Renegade_Fury
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The OG and 360 were the best respective consoles of their gens. The One sucked ass though, and I'm still struggling to see what the Series X offers. MS has done good things with backwards compatibility and gamepass, but it's apparent that they still need to be kept on a leash, because they might do a 100% price hike, or who knows what else, out of nowhere.

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Still a peak launch title.

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#94  Edited By SargentD
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@Archangel3371 said:

@robert_sparkes: Yeah same here. Ninja Gaiden still is a really good looking game to this day.

Ninja Gaiden was what got me to get the xbox. I was a teenager playing at my buddies house , (i hadnt played xbox but had a ps2 and gamecube) my god was NG clean, just blew everything else on PS2 and Gamecube out of the water at the time... before that game i like Shinobi on PS2... after playing NG... Shinobi was dog shit to me lol

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@iamdavey said:

Still a peak launch title.

Halo Infinite is looking better than last time.

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#96  Edited By SargentD
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OG xbox was pretty badass, i had all 3 consoles and at the end of the day that xbox was a tank, had a good amount of games and and 3rd party game played better on it. like starwars battlefront... im not going to play that on ps2. PS2 had the bigger catalouge but came out first. OG xbox changed the game with power and online.

Splinter Cell chaos theory and Crimson skys was amazing playing for the first time.

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#97 VFighter
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@dabear: Yawn...let me know when you're open to reality and what actually happened and then we can talk, until then you're just spouting the same old nonsense "but but this region doesn't count", it was cute 2 gens ago now it's just pathetic and sad.

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#98 dabear
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@vfighter said:

@dabear: Yawn...let me know when you're open to reality and what actually happened and then we can talk, until then you're just spouting the same old nonsense "but but this region doesn't count", it was cute 2 gens ago now it's just pathetic and sad.

Ahh... someone who always wants the last word. Classic.

Go look at the sales numbers per territory, buddy. None of them have the 12:1 margin like Japan does for either console. Both the PS3 and 360 were at least competitive with each other in every market except Japan. What did happen was that the PS3 lost by decent figures in the rest of the world, which is why so many third party games were PC360.

PC360 games were a big topic of conversation back then.

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#100 VFighter
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@dabear: So you're not ready to admit reality yet, gotcha. But but but... 😆