2009 Could be DISASTER for the 360.. FFXIII,Gran Turismo 5, Killzone 2, GOW3

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#51 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

Well PS3 has 2008...the biggest game of the year is coming out thursday...plus they have a strong fall/winter lineup. 2009 is going to be the 3rd wave of monster titles.

pieatorium

Eh no the biggest games of the year will be GTA IV and WoW : WotLK (and SC 2 if it makes it this year), pretty much everything else will be fighting for third place. Unless you meant PS3's biggest game of the year then yeah I guess so but i could still see GTA IV beating MGS IV in a PS3 only sales comparison.

No, MGS4 will outsell GTA4 on the PS3 because it can only be found on the PS3 so the sales will not be split, It will be close though....but MGS4 is the game I think will do the most damage in terms of exclusives this year(if SC2 does not come).

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#52 FrozenLiquid
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Once again the cow mantra strikes.... Just wait 8).
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#53 SHuN_G0Ku
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the original poster is forgetting or ignoring the nintendo wii in his thread.

also there is a good chance that final Fantasy XIII will be out in 2010 0r 2011 knowing how sony like to keep ps3 owner waiting and we haven't even seen a new trailer of Final Fantasy XIII or gameplay trailer this year.

2008 not even over yet wait till December to started posting about which console going to have more games in 2009?

kyacat

the Wii is basically on its own league; i think it'll turn up to be the next 'PS2' or dethrone it..

But as far as the 360's future, :| i just dont know... Like I've mentioned before, MS needs to stop porting its killer apps to other systems and take a hint from their 2005 year bcuz that year alone was their best exclusive since it was just the 360 by itself.

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#54 SHuN_G0Ku
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Once again the cow mantra strikes.... Just wait 8).FrozenLiquid

lol that's a dead myth..

try again...

>>edit

...wa-wa-wa-wait..

i'll play along;

cows will have something to look forward to on 2009..

what about lemms? :|

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#55 jackvegas21
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2009 will be it. And if not then 2010. And if that doesn't go then 2011. 2012 may be the year too. So yeah eventually.
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#56 DisPimpin
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Didn't you cows say the same thing about 2007.....and 2008 for that matter? :|
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#57 Nagidar
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Ya know, everyone said the same thing about 08' and it looks like the 360 is going to have a pretty good year and so is the PS3.
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#58 FonkeyMunky7
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Wait, wasn't this the exact same argument that took place in 2007 about 2008? I believe it was the same exact games being discussed as well. :lol:

I should have a PS3 by then anyways, no worries for me. :D

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#59 kingdre
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MS probably has something planned. They're just not saying anything, to give Sony a false sense of security. Then, when Sony thinks 2009 is in the bag, BAM!!! Here comes a 360 exclusive that blows all other PS3 games away!

Or not.

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#60 kyacat
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Nintendo has something up their sleeve their not going to reveal until E3?
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#61 Eponique
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Are cows going to put FFXII on their 2009 lists KNOWING it won't come out in 2009? Please don't do that... Please...
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#62 Zaeryn
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So let me guess, 2009 is the year of the PS3 now?

...:lol:

-Jiggles-
Yeah, seriously. I remember back last summer when everybody said 2008 would be the year for the PS3. What a joke that turned out to be.
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#63 Steppy_76
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Once again the cow mantra strikes.... Just wait 8).SHuN_G0Ku

lol that's a dead myth..

try again...

>>edit

...wa-wa-wa-wait..

i'll play along;

cows will have something to look forward to on 2009..

what about lemms? :|

Funny, one year ago cows said lems had nothing to look forward for 2008. Have cows NOT learned that MS had pretty much stuck to a formula of focusing on games that are coming out within the next year rather than sony's method of talking about games YEARS before they come out. MS talked about 2005 games in 2005, 2006 games towards the end of 05 beginning of 06, 07 games in late 06 early 07, etc. Each year cows would say MS had no games coming the following year and then MS would announce a slew of them. We're STILL waiting on a number of games Sony talked about in 2005. Now let me ask you again, are you SURE you want to stick with that argument?
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#64 user_nat
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Like all the titles you have listed were all hyped to be the big titles this year, last year.. (GT5, FFXIII, KZ2). That just shows, you really shouldn't hype things so far in advance.
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#65 kyacat
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Are cows going to put FFXII on their 2009 lists KNOWING it won't come out in 2009? Please don't do that... Please...Eponique
I know that why I post final fantasy XIII will probably be out in 2010 or 2011
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#66 Chutebox
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Are cows going to put FFXIII on their 2009 lists KNOWING it won't come out in 2009? Please don't do that... Please...Eponique

You think it will come out after 2009?

PS: I fixed the your FF number.

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#67 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

So let me guess, 2009 is the year of the PS3 now?

...:lol:

Zaeryn

Yeah, seriously. I remember back last summer when everybody said 2008 would be the year for the PS3. What a joke that turned out to be.

Well, so far it has been Ps3 year I think. They've had more exclusives this year I think that scored well. I could be wrong.

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#68 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]Are cows going to put FFXIII on their 2009 lists KNOWING it won't come out in 2009? Please don't do that... Please...Chutebox

You think it will come out after 2009?

PS: I fixed the your FF number.

In the West, yes.

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#69 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Zaeryn"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

So let me guess, 2009 is the year of the PS3 now?

...:lol:

Chutebox

Yeah, seriously. I remember back last summer when everybody said 2008 would be the year for the PS3. What a joke that turned out to be.

Well, so far it has been Ps3 year I think. They've had more exclusives this year I think that scored well. I could be wrong.

Indeed. No More Hereos and Super Smash Brawl both went AAA. Mario Kart Wii went AA.

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#70 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Zaeryn"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

So let me guess, 2009 is the year of the PS3 now?

...:lol:

Blackbond

Yeah, seriously. I remember back last summer when everybody said 2008 would be the year for the PS3. What a joke that turned out to be.

Well, so far it has been Ps3 year I think. They've had more exclusives this year I think that scored well. I could be wrong.

Indeed. No More Hereos and Super Smash Brawl both went AAA. Mario Kart Wii went AA.

Sorry, I assumed this was just 360 and Ps3 for some reason. The Wii goes unsaid as being it's year.

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#71 Blackbond
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Sorry, I assumed this was just 360 and Ps3 for some reason. The Wii goes unsaid as being it's year.

Chutebox

For it to be anyones year that platform has to beat all others. PC/Wii/PS3/360. Its not just PS3 vs 360.

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#72 jg4xchamp
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Microsoft has been relied more on 3rd party and NEW Ips this gen than there bread and butter.

Halo 3 was the only sure fire thing they had this entire gen.

Gears of War 2 is now a sure fire thing, but the first one we only hyped for visuals and dev name, Ofcourse that game delivered.

Also God of War 3 could easily be delayed to 2010. GT 5 should be out and so should FF 13.

That said

Bungie will have a game for the 360 in 09(Make no mistake about it, Microsoft will make sure they pick up the publishing rights)

Alan Wake will be out

SPlintercell Conviction will finally be out

Rare will have something

Turn10 should be back with Forza 3 to match up with GT 5

Mistwalker will have Cry ON and continue to grow there name as a JRPG dev.

Microsoft isn't like Sony who shows what they got for the next year until that year has arrived. They focus more on current year and the now

Where as Sony likes to continue to look down the road.....

Microsoft will have something in 09, They have dominated the PS3 in 07, obviousaly 06, and 08 looks like they will only lose the 1st half of 08 to Sony in game library, because 2nd half of 08 its 360 with Gears 2, Fable 2, Too Human, Banjo Nuts and Bolts, Tales of Vesperia, Infinite Undiscoverey, Halo Wars, Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise, Left 4 Dead

versus

PS3 which will be LBP, Resistance 2, Tekken 6, Socom, Motorstorm 2, WHite Knight Chronicles, Infamous, Valkryie, etc

Just saying i think the 2nd half lineup is more in 360s favor.

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#73 jg4xchamp
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Year of What?



This is only counting 2008 games, since we are all into The year of Blank

PC- 3 AAA (2 AAAE), 5 AA (4 AAE)
Wii- 3 AAA (2 AAAE), 5 AA (1 AAE)
360- 1 AAAA, 1 AAA, 8 AA(1 AAE)
PS3- 1 AAAA, 1 AAA, 8 AA

Don't believe it well here you go

PC

AAA games= Mass Effect, Sins of a Solar, Galactic Civilizations 2: Twilight of the Armor,

AA= Assassins Creed, Supreme Commander Forged Alliance, Pirates of the Burning Sea, Penumbra: Black Plague, Age of Conan

360

AAAA= Grand Theft Auto 4

AAA = Burnout Paradise

AA= Condemned 2 Bloodshot, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, Devil May Cry 4, UEFA Euro 2008, Lego Indiana Jones, Ninja Gaiden 2 , Bourne Conspiracy, Grid

PS3

AAAA= Grand Theft Auto 4

AAA=Burnout Paradise

AA= MLB the Show 08, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, Condemned 2 Bloodshot, Devil May Cry 4, UEFA Euro 2008, Lego Indiana Jones, Grid, Bourne Conspiracy

Wii

AAA= Super Smash Bros. Brawl, No More Heroes, Okami Wii

AA= Mario Kart Wii, Pro Evolution Soccer 2008, Pinball Hall of Fame- The Williams Collection, Bully Scholarship Edition, Lego Indiana Jones

Bold= Exclusives.



and since people keep complaining here are the metacritic numbers

PC

AAA- Mass Effect, Galactic Civilizations 2: Twilight of the Armor,

AA- Sins of a Solar, Sam and Max Episode 205, Sam and Max Episode 204, Audiosurf, Sam and Max Episode 203, Sam and Max Episode 202, Trackmania Nations Forever, Worldwide Soccer Manager 2008, Trials 2: Second Edition, Age of Conan

2 AAA(1 AAA E), 10 AA (9AA E)

360

AAA-Grand Theft Auto 4,

AA- Grid, Burnout Paradise,, Soccer Manager 07, Devil May Cry 4, Ninja Gaiden 2, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, Condemned 2 Bloodshot, Bully Scholarship edition, Lego Indiana Jones, UEFA Euro 08

1- AAA

10- AA(1 AAE)

PS3

AAA- Grand Theft Auto 4, Metal Gear Solid 4

AA- Burnout Paradise, MLB the Show 08, Devil May Cry 4, Condemned 2 Bloodshot, Singstar, Hotshots Golf: Out of Bounds, GT 5 Prologue , Lego Indiana Jones, Grid

2 AAA (1 AAAE)

9 AA (2 AAE)

Wii

AAA- Smash Bros. Brawl,

AA- Boom Blox, Pro Evo Soccer 2008, Pinball Hall of Fame: Williams Collection, No More Heroes, Bully Scholarship Edition, Mario Kart Wii, Death Jr. Roots of Evil, Okami

1 AAA (1 AAAE)

8 AA (3 AAE)

Cows and Lemmings should really rethink calling this the year of the 360 or PS3....so far the PC and Wii are the ones that have delivered better exclusives.

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#74 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Sorry, I assumed this was just 360 and Ps3 for some reason. The Wii goes unsaid as being it's year.

Blackbond

For it to be anyones year that platform has to beat all others. PC/Wii/PS3/360. Its not just PS3 vs 360.

Yea I know. The title was between 360 and Ps3, so that's why I said that.

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#75 StryderK
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Zaeryn"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

So let me guess, 2009 is the year of the PS3 now?

...:lol:

Chutebox

Yeah, seriously. I remember back last summer when everybody said 2008 would be the year for the PS3. What a joke that turned out to be.

Well, so far it has been Ps3 year I think. They've had more exclusives this year I think that scored well. I could be wrong.

Indeed. No More Hereos and Super Smash Brawl both went AAA. Mario Kart Wii went AA.

Sorry, I assumed this was just 360 and Ps3 for some reason. The Wii goes unsaid as being it's year.

First half of the year definitely belong to Nintendo, despite anything every argument from Cows or Lemmings. Also, DO NOT bring, "OmGz!!! TeH, AAAA, the GtA tEh Iv!!!". First of all, that's multi-plat, second, it's one game against three Wii AAA. no matter how good that one game is, sooner or later,it's gonna end while three games, especially a game on MArio KArt and SSBB level will last you a LONG time, not to mention there is also NMH and a AAA multi-plat (But might as well be Wii exclusive consider very few people bought the game)), Okami! The first 6 months is cetaintly good for the Wii!

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#76 leonhead
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So now 2009 is year of the PS3?
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#77 ReturnOfShinobi
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You mean just like 08 and how 360 was doomed with no games and now has a lineup that is just as good if not better?:roll:
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#78 Pripyat
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In all seriousness this is the same crap just a different year and the same games.Blackbond

Fixed. Cows have used FFXIII, GT5, LBP and GoW3 in current year lineups for YEARS now.

While Cows keep waiting for those games x360 owners have been getting a vide variety of great games.

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#79 ReturnOfShinobi
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]In all seriousness this is the same crap just a different year and the same games.Pripyat

Fixed. Cows have used FFXIII, GT5, LBP and GoW3 in current year lineups for YEARS now.

While Cows keep waiting for those games x360 owners have been getting a vide variety of great games.

Isnt LBP 08?
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#80 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Pripyat"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]In all seriousness this is the same crap just a different year and the same games.ReturnOfShinobi

Fixed. Cows have used FFXIII, GT5, LBP and GoW3 in current year lineups for YEARS now.

While Cows keep waiting for those games x360 owners have been getting a vide variety of great games.

Isnt LBP 08?

Yep, October.

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#81 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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i love how you say that yet 360 has dominated ps3 since the year it came out and guess what? the ps3 is still around. just sitting there like an idiot for a few more days but it's still around despite absolutely no reason to buy it outside bluray.
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#82 angelkimne
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Most of MS titles have not been announced yet, Sony seem to have a little habit of announcing games early this gen. Simple.
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#83 ReturnOfShinobi
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[QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"][QUOTE="Pripyat"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]In all seriousness this is the same crap just a different year and the same games.Chutebox

Fixed. Cows have used FFXIII, GT5, LBP and GoW3 in current year lineups for YEARS now.

While Cows keep waiting for those games x360 owners have been getting a vide variety of great games.

Isnt LBP 08?

Yep, October.

Therefore there isnt a problem to Cows hyping it, its jut a case of it not flopping now:P
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#84 def_mode
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Are people still making the mistake of hyping Killzone 2.

Go-Rilla is not that well know for quality titles...you're setting yourself up for disaster.

Dr_Drooom

according to ur logic, if i fail my first test, i shouldnt bother with the second test cause im gonna fail it just like the first one?

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#85 kozzy1234
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Thats what all the cows said about 08 :lol:

Get some exclusive RPGS that i buy a sony console for. PS1 and PS2 where the RPG kings and i loved those consoles for them. But ps3 is lacking in alot of things at the moment. Metal Gear Solid might make me buy a ps3 again (sold my ps3 before because it was collecting dust). Either give me a bunch of new RPGS or im not supporting sony this gen, when all its good for up till metal gear coming out (one of my fav series) has been Blu Ray dvds.

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#86 SapSacPrime
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GT5 is the second half of next year and I dare say KZ2 will be the same, I can't see FFXIII getting a western release that quickly and GOW3 is probably going to be a 2010 game. GT5, FFXIII and GOW3 will be amazing games I agree but the waiting time for a small handfull of good games is a joke.
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#87 Knievs_101
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God of War = button mashing + a game of simon. Simon in an action game? What's next a game of Tetris in the middle of Ninja Gaiden? You can pick up a 360 now and play Forza 2. Or you can wait forever for GT5. Killzone 2 = Haze. FFXIII is just another JRPG. The JRPG genre is full of classics that have aged very well. You could waste an entire year just beating them all. Stick with 2008. At least you have MGS4, and the promise of 60 person multiplayer on R2.
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#88 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"][QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Why are we talking about 2009 already? It's June 2008. :| There will be many game announcements between E3 '08 and E3 '09. Gamers these days. Patience, my friends.TMontana1004

..because 2008 didn't turn out the way the cows wanted..

Actually, it's turning out just fine. MGS4 comes out this week.

Forget about sales. Game wise it's a bit of a train wreck right now due to all of the delays. MGS4 will definitely make a lot of PS3 owners happy, but you have to agree that the PS3 is overall a huge disappointment atm.

nope

Sure :roll:

I don't think so :|.

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#89 Ellythrion
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MadWorld, Fatal Frame 4, Tenchu 4, Tecmo Bowl Wii, The Conduit, and so on.

-Despacio-

Hhmmm... not too sure this salvates my wii games-shortage fears to be honest. I've only got super smash bros. brawl to look forward to (not released in the UK yet) then none of these are particularly grabbing my attention to be honest. Fatal Frame 4 the most and I will most likely buy it, but it's still not got me really excited or anything.

I love my wii but my patience is slowly but surely running thin with it... devs are getting far too lazy with it because it's a success and they know chances are sloppy ports or uninspired games will sell at least fairly well.

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#90 delta3074
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microsoft don't tend to spout off about games until they are just around the corner (they learnt there mistake with too human and alan wake) they tend to keep there games lineup for the next year under there hat until e3, sony on the other hand tend to spout off about games before there is a solid release date, which inevitably gets pushed back and causes dissapointment to fans who are anticipating the title, ms will reveal at E3 which major titles will be released next year so wait and see before making assumptions don't make the mistake of hyping 2009 as being the year of the ps3 cos the ps3 fanboys said that about this year and all ended up with egg on there faces.
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#91 akif22
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out of those you've mentioned, only GOW3 interests me

never been a fan on FF or GT, killzone 1 was terrible so i won't hype this just because it looks nice

even though we know nothing about it, you should mention Team Ico's next project .. which hopefully comes out next year

it'll be a definite buy for me, even though we've seen just one teaser screenshot .. that's how highly i rate the dev!