2009 - List Wars [HD Console Edition] - PS3 vs. X360 - [56k okay!...for now]

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The thread will be separated as follows:
GameRankings Score Totals
GameSpot Score Totals
Retail Exclusives [PS3, X360]
Retail Multiplats [PS3, X360]
Downloadable Exclusives [PSN, XBLA]
Downloadable Multiplats [PSN, XBLA]
Shared Multiplats [PS3, X360, PSN, XBLA]

Scoring will be separated as follows:
AAAA=Platinum [100]
AAA=Gold [90-99]
AA=Silver [80-89]
A=Bronze [70-79]

If both GameRankings and GameSpot scores fall under 70, the game is removed from the list.
Games listed in the first multiplatform section indicate that the game is released solely on one of the competing platforms within the given year; concurrent multiplatform games released within the year will be listed in the second multiplatform section.
Games in the downloadable section(s) will work in a similar manner.
For the sake of consistency, we'll be adhering to NA release dates only.
If there's anything missing/incorrect about any of the lists, let me know so I can add/update it.
NOTE: Removed the Wii/PC for the time being. May add them back in a later edition of List Wars.

Thread is open to user debate/discussion. Please feel free to contribute.



[GameRankings Scores]


PS3
96.2 - Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
90.4 - Killzone 2

90.1 - MLB 09: The Show
90.0 - Demon's Souls
87.0 - Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time
86.4 - Infamous
83.9 - Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
80.7 - SingStar: Motown

77.7 - Katamari Forever
76.0 - Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3
75.1 - SingStar: Queen


PSN
90.9 - WipEout HD: Fury
87.3 - Flower
86.2 - Comet Crash
86.0 - PixelJunk Eden: Encore
85.5 - Shatter
84.8 - Critter Crunch
82.6 - Trine
80.9 - Bomberman Ultra
80.5 - Fat Princess
80.1 - ZEN Pinball

77.3 - Burn Zombie Burn!
76.8 - Worms
76.3 - Trash Panic
76.0 - Mushroom Wars
75.7 - Astro Tripper
75.5 - Cuboid
74.6 - Zuma
74.5 - Bejeweled 2
74.3 - Savage Moon
72.3 - Noby Noby Boy
70.7 - Digger HD
70.3 - GTI Club+: Rally Cote d'Azur



X360
92.1 - Forza Motorsport 3
90.6 - Grand Theft Auto IV: Episodes from Liberty City

84.8 - Halo 3: ODST
81.9 - Halo Wars

76.0 - Battlestations: Pacific
74.5 - Star Ocean: The Last Hope
74.5 - Raiden Fighters Aces
71.9 - Race Pro
70.6 - Section 8


XBLA
89.3 - Shadow Complex
89.0 - Peggle Deluxe
87.4 - The Secret of Monkey Island
86.1 - Trials HD
85.7 - 'Splosion Man
85.0 - Worms 2: Armageddon
84.9 - Defense Grid: The Awakening
82.8 - Space Invaders Extreme
80.4 - Rocket Riot

78.8 - Left 4 Dead: Crash Course
78.3 - Sam & Max: Save the World
78.3 - Sonic the Hedgehog 3
77.9 - Sam & Max: Beyond Time and Space
77.7 - Garou: Mark of the Wolves
77.5 - Lode Runner
77.5 - Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers
77.2 - The Dishwasher: Dead Samurai
77.0 - Uno Rush
76.3 - Banjo-Tooie
76.2 - South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!
76.2 - R-Type Dimensions
76.1 - The Maw
75.1 - Wallace & Gromit, Episode 1: Fright of the Bumblebees
75.0 - Virtual-On: Oratorio Tangram
73.9 - Ion Assault
73.5 - Madballs in Babo: Invasion
73.0 - The King of Fighters '98: Ultimate Match
72.9 - Axel & Pixel
72.4 - Gel: Set & Match
71.3 - Comix Zone




[GameSpot Scores]


PS3
95 - Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
90 - Demon's Souls
90 - Infamous
90 - Killzone 2
90 - MLB 09: The Show
85 - Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
85 - Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time

75 - Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3
75 - SingStar: Queen
70 - Katamari Forever


PSN
90 - Comet Crash
85 - ZEN Pinball
80 - Flower
80 - Shatter
80 - Trine

75 - Fat Princess
75 - Noby Noby Boy
75 - Trash Panic
70 - Burn Zombie Burn!
70 - GTI Club+: Rally Cote d'Azur



X360
95 - Forza Motorsport 3
90 - Grand Theft Auto IV: Episodes from Liberty City
90 - Halo 3: ODST

80 - Battlestations: Pacific

75 - Ninja Blade
75 - Race Pro
75 - Star Ocean: The Last Hope
75 - Stoked
75 - Velvet Assassin
70 - Section 8


XBLA
85 - Shadow Complex
80 - Defense Grid: The Awakening
80 - Lode Runner
80 - Panzer General: Allied Assault
80 - Rocket Riot
80 - Space Invaders Extreme
80 - 'Splosion Man
80 - Trials HD
80 - Worms 2: Armageddon

75 - The Dishwasher: Dead Samurai
75 - Exit 2
75 - South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!
75 - Virtual-On: Oratorio Tangram
75 - Wallace & Gromit, Episode 1: Fright of the Bumblebees
70 - Bubble Bobble Neo
70 - Ion Assault
70 - Madballs in Babo: Invasion
70 - Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers
70 - The Maw
70 - R-Type Dimensions


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[RETAIL EXCLUSIVES - PS3/X360]

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[RETAIL MULTIPLATS - PS3/X360]

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[DOWNLOADABLE EXCLUSIVES - PSN/XBLA]

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#5 FlyingArmbar
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Don't forget about Splinter Cell: Conviction! :) I'm pretty excited to see what the 360 will be getting in the form of exclusives. This is what a microsoft spokesperson said about Killzone 2: "We congratulate Sony and Guerilla Games for their efforts with Killzone 2, however this is only the beginning of a new wave. The current technology employed for certain unannounced Xbox 360 exclusives far surpasses what gamers have seen in any game so far. Gears of War was the beginning of this technological benchmark when released on the 360 and this lineage will be carried forward in the following months with exclusives that shall stand for a new definition of gaming experience and provide stiff competition for the opposition."
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[DOWNLOADABLE MULTIPLATS - PSN/XBLA]

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[SHARED MULTIPLATS - PS3/X360/PSN/XBLA]

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#8 agff9
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damn x360 have many pc360 multiplats and ps3 have many exclusives I want to play....
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#9 PAL360
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I love tha 360 lineup! How can anyone claim that it has no games this year??:o

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#10 Jekken6
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AAAA scores should be platinum.

Also, Bioshock 2 should be on the list somewhere, same with Modern Warfare 2

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#11 aflakian
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AAAA scores should be platinum.

Also, Bioshock 2 should be on the list somewhere, same with Modern Warfare 2

Jekken6



That's a good idea.
I mean, those titles (as well as other 360/PS3/PC multiplats released this year) won't be hitting the Wii I presume.
I should include a PC section as well if I'm able to implement that properly.

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#12 Rikusaki
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Wow, very nicely done. :)

I can't wait for the next Ratchet game. :D

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#13 kendrene
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About time somebody made a thread like this- great job!:D

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#14 skanjos
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sorry i dont accept the metacritic ratings,system wars rules only gamespot scores here......all the platforms have amazing games coming but only the ps3 have amazing exclusives coming atm.e3 is near lets see

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It's going to be a fine year once again. Need to pick up Dishwasher btw..
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sorry i dont accept the metacritic ratings,system wars rules only gamespot scores here......all the platforms have amazing games coming but only the ps3 have amazing exclusives coming atm.e3 is near lets see

skanjos



Both are used.
Also, GameSpot doesn't review everything apparently if you look at both lists.

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[QUOTE="FlyingArmbar"]Don't forget about Splinter Cell: Conviction.aflakian



Rgr.

That game has been delayed untill atleast 2010.

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sorry i dont accept the metacritic ratings,system wars rules only gamespot scores here......all the platforms have amazing games coming but only the ps3 have amazing exclusives coming atm.e3 is near lets see

skanjos

Well, which are those amazing exclusive RPG's that are coming to PS3 ?

I can name 15+ asmazing exclusive to PC/360RPG's that are coming to 360 though, plus 4-5 exclusives

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[QUOTE="aflakian"]

[QUOTE="FlyingArmbar"]Don't forget about Splinter Cell: Conviction.-Reggaeton-



Rgr.

That game has been delayed untill atleast 2010.



Said to be released within Ubisoft's 2009-2010 fiscal year (which ends March 31, 2010), thus it at least earns a place in the rumored section.
Though I agree, 2010 is the most probable time of release.

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#21 obamanian
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Mass Effect 2 is really missing from the list

Also FF13vs could well be a 2011 game

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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Mass Effect 2 is really missing from the list

Also FF13vs could well be a 2011 game

Half of the games on the list could be 2010-2011.
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Heavy Rain, Katamari Forever, and MAG have already been confirmed for 2009.
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damn x360 have many pc360 multiplats and ps3 have many exclusives I want to play....agff9
Thats one of the reasons i got rid of my 360 i owned all of the upcoming games on my PC to the extent that it become quite pointless!
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#25 obamanian
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[QUOTE="agff9"]damn x360 have many pc360 multiplats and ps3 have many exclusives I want to play....jwsoul
Thats one of the reasons i got rid of my 360 i owned all of the upcoming games on my PC to the extent that it become quite pointless!

Well, goes both ways. That is the reason for me not to ever upgrade my PC, since i can play everything i need on my 360, and not miss on its excluisives like the JRPGs, Fable etc

Plus has analog pad controls i prefer (in fact i can't ever go back to playing any game with a keyboard/mouse, unless i can't help it)

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#26 Nike_Air
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Heavy Rain, Katamari Forever, and MAG have already been confirmed for 2009.chapnzaba
Heavy Rain and MAG were confirmed for fiscal 2009 releases (along with GOW III) .... which might be early next year. If they get confirmed for this year in th future , he can add them in.

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360 and ps3 lists are looking pretty good.
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="skanjos"]

sorry i dont accept the metacritic ratings,system wars rules only gamespot scores here......all the platforms have amazing games coming but only the ps3 have amazing exclusives coming atm.e3 is near lets see

Well, which are those amazing exclusive RPG's that are coming to PS3 ?

I can name 15+ asmazing exclusive to PC/360RPG's that are coming to 360 though, plus 4-5 exclusives

There are more games then just RPG's
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Wow nice job man and Divinity looks interesting, I will keep it under my radar.

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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="skanjos"]

sorry i dont accept the metacritic ratings,system wars rules only gamespot scores here......all the platforms have amazing games coming but only the ps3 have amazing exclusives coming atm.e3 is near lets see

toast_burner

Well, which are those amazing exclusive RPG's that are coming to PS3 ?

I can name 15+ asmazing exclusive to PC/360RPG's that are coming to 360 though, plus 4-5 exclusives

There are more games then just RPG's

Yes, but i just don't care much for them.

For example if games like Gears 2, KZ2, MGS4 etc never released, would have made zero difference to me

The ultimate achievement for me, is keeping me saves of my leveled up heroes at various stages of a memorableadventure, so the games that can't give me that are rather useless to me

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Mass Effect 2 is really missing from the list

Also FF13vs could well be a 2011 game

obamanian



ME2 has been confirmed for Q1 2010.
FF13vs hasn't been confirmed for any date as far as I know, so it can stay on the list...though personally, I'm almost 100% positive we won't see it this year.

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#32 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Mass Effect 2 is really missing from the list

Also FF13vs could well be a 2011 game

aflakian



ME2 has been confirmed for Q1 2010.
FF13vs hasn't been confirmed for any date as far as I know, so it can stay on the list...though personally, I'm almost 100% positive we won't see it this year.

Actually FF13vs has been confirmed to arrive farafter FF13, so to see it in 2009 in US is like zero chance or worst

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[QUOTE="aflakian"]

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Mass Effect 2 is really missing from the list

Also FF13vs could well be a 2011 game

obamanian



ME2 has been confirmed for Q1 2010.
FF13vs hasn't been confirmed for any date as far as I know, so it can stay on the list...though personally, I'm almost 100% positive we won't see it this year.

Actually FF13vs has been confirmed to arrive farafter FF13, so to see it in 2009 in US is like zero chance or worst



Do you have a link stating that FFvXIII will be released after FFXIII?
Also, do you have a link confirming FFXIII's release date?
If so, I'll remove it from the list.

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2 Rare games sweet, I bet it's Perfect Dark 2 and Killer Instinct 3, and one of them is going to be AAA on Gamespot(most likely Perfect Dark 2).

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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Actually FF13vs has been confirmed to arrive farafter FF13, so to see it in 2009 in US is like zero chance or worst

aflakian



Do you have a link stating that FFvXIII will be released after FFXIII?
Also, do you have a link confirming FFXIII's release date?
If so, I'll remove it from the list.

I would make the list early 2010 one too, since there is no way to know if all those games will come in 2009, just to be safe

BTW i have a link that shows FF13vs will come in late 2010, if we are lucky

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ffxiii-versus-on-hold-says-nomura

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So, FF13vs on hold until FF13 is finished, which means maybe it takes multiple more years until its release

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[QUOTE="aflakian"]

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Actually FF13vs has been confirmed to arrive farafter FF13, so to see it in 2009 in US is like zero chance or worst

obamanian



Do you have a link stating that FFvXIII will be released after FFXIII?
Also, do you have a link confirming FFXIII's release date?
If so, I'll remove it from the list.

I would make the list early 2010 one too, since there is no way to know if all those games will come in 2009, just to be safe

BTW i have a link that shows FF13vs will come in late 2010, if we are lucky

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ffxiii-versus-on-hold-says-nomura

.

So, FF13vs on hold until FF13 is finished, which means maybe it takes multiple more years until its release



Need a newer, more reliable link.

"Reports of June 2008 that Final Fantasy Versus XIII had been put on hold so that the Versus team could assist work on the main title, Final Fantasy XIII, were later debunked by Square Enix, stating that this was a mistranslation of an interview from Famitsu and misinterpretation of the article, and that both games are moving along at their original schedules; occasionally, Versus developers assist with Final Fantasy XIII development."

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#37 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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Looking forward to fight night round 4, MAG and uncharted 2. Too many RPGs on 360 again, will pick up ODST tho, ooh and infamous, and cod MW2
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#38 _LiquidFlame_
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Nice thread, good lists. :)

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#39 Zero5000X
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Poor PC. never gets invited to the party.
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That's a good start, but you are missing a lot.

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[QUOTE="skanjos"]

sorry i dont accept the metacritic ratings,system wars rules only gamespot scores here......all the platforms have amazing games coming but only the ps3 have amazing exclusives coming atm.e3 is near lets see

obamanian

Well, which are those amazing exclusive RPG's that are coming to PS3 ?

I can name 15+ asmazing exclusive to PC/360RPG's that are coming to 360 though, plus 4-5 exclusives

Cross Edge and Disgaea are better then ANY 360 RPG this year. Fact.
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#42 Zero5000X
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="skanjos"]

sorry i dont accept the metacritic ratings,system wars rules only gamespot scores here......all the platforms have amazing games coming but only the ps3 have amazing exclusives coming atm.e3 is near lets see

-Snooze-

Well, which are those amazing exclusive RPG's that are coming to PS3 ?

I can name 15+ asmazing exclusive to PC/360RPG's that are coming to 360 though, plus 4-5 exclusives

Cross Edge and Disgaea are better then ANY 360 RPG this year. Fact.

A fact would imply there is empirical data to back it up.
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#43 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="skanjos"]

sorry i dont accept the metacritic ratings,system wars rules only gamespot scores here......all the platforms have amazing games coming but only the ps3 have amazing exclusives coming atm.e3 is near lets see

-Snooze-

Well, which are those amazing exclusive RPG's that are coming to PS3 ?

I can name 15+ asmazing exclusive to PC/360RPG's that are coming to 360 though, plus 4-5 exclusives

Cross Edge and Disgaea are better then ANY 360 RPG this year. Fact.

Cross Edge got the lowest score possible even in Japan, 6/10 !!!!!!

But i guess on PS3 even 1/10 games are not 10/10, right ? I mean 400$ for a system should add some points to those crappy titles

Disgaea 3 is that game that looks like a PS1 game (well some PS1 games actually look 10000x better) ?

Also i like freedom and choice in my games, so i like WRPGs far mroe than any JRPG, meaning that even with Fable 2 alone, 360 would have a better lineup of RPG's than anything PS3 could ever come up with

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Dead Island looks interesting
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#45 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="obamanian"]

Well, which are those amazing exclusive RPG's that are coming to PS3 ?

I can name 15+ asmazing exclusive to PC/360RPG's that are coming to 360 though, plus 4-5 exclusives

obamanian

Cross Edge and Disgaea are better then ANY 360 RPG this year. Fact.

Cross Edge got the lowest score possible even in Japan, 6/10 !!!!!!

But i guess on PS3 even 1/10 games are not 10/10, right ? I mean 400$ for a system should add some points to those crappy titles

Disgaea 3 is that game that looks like a PS1 game (well some PS1 games actually look 10000x better) ?

Also i like freedom and choice in my games, so i like WRPGs far mroe than any JRPG, meaning that even with Fable 2 alone, 360 would have a better lineup of RPG's than anything PS3 could ever come up with

I believe the lowest score possible is 1/10 ;) Also, that is Disgaea's art style, it's not trying to be the best looking game (even though it does look brilliant)
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#46 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="skanjos"]

sorry i dont accept the metacritic ratings,system wars rules only gamespot scores here......all the platforms have amazing games coming but only the ps3 have amazing exclusives coming atm.e3 is near lets see

-Snooze-

Well, which are those amazing exclusive RPG's that are coming to PS3 ?

I can name 15+ asmazing exclusive to PC/360RPG's that are coming to 360 though, plus 4-5 exclusives

Cross Edge and Disgaea are better then ANY 360 RPG this year. Fact.

Seriously, don't argue RPG's with Obamanian or even game libraries, you will leave thoroughly perplexed.

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#47 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]Cross Edge and Disgaea are better then ANY 360 RPG this year. Fact.aaronmullan

Cross Edge got the lowest score possible even in Japan, 6/10 !!!!!!

But i guess on PS3 even 1/10 games are not 10/10, right ? I mean 400$ for a system should add some points to those crappy titles

Disgaea 3 is that game that looks like a PS1 game (well some PS1 games actually look 10000x better) ?

Also i like freedom and choice in my games, so i like WRPGs far mroe than any JRPG, meaning that even with Fable 2 alone, 360 would have a better lineup of RPG's than anything PS3 could ever come up with

I believe the lowest score possible is 1/10 ;) Also, that is Disgaea's art style, it's not trying to be the best looking game (even though it does look brilliant)

If you liek them fine, i like 2D RPG's myself, when they have art in them, and Diagaea art is some of the worst i have seen in gaming, ever

Cross Edge seems like one of the most mediocre titles i have seen too, unless you can convince me otherwise, i am open to suggestions, but i would rather buy Demon Soul which looks 10000x better than those overly japaneze titles

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#48 aflakian
Member since 2008 • 1557 Posts

That's a good start, but you are missing a lot.

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Which areas? The Wii?
If so, help would be appreciated.

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I just popped in to see if Comet Crash was updated , and yes it is !

Things look promising for the ps3/psn combo in the next few months (especially psn). I wonder if PixelJunk Eden Encore will begetting any reviews ?

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#50 Hungry_Homer111
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Wii Exclusives

The Conduit
MC Rating: na
GS Rating: na


Deadly Creatures
MC Rating: 73
GS Rating: 75


The House of the Dead: Overkill
MC Rating: 79
GS Rating: 80


Let's Tap
MC Rating: 72
GS Rating: na


MadWorld
MC Rating: 82
GS Rating: 75


Marble Saga: Kororinpa
MC Rating: 76
GS Rating: 70


Muramasa: The Demon Blade
MC Rating: na
GS Rating: na


NASCAR Kart Racing
MC Rating: 70
GS Rating: na


Rune Factory: Frontier
MC Rating: 80
GS Rating: na


Tenchu: Shadow Assassins
MC Rating: 70
GS Rating: 50


We Ski & Snowboard
MC Rating: 67
GS Rating: 70


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Where's Little King's Story and Arc Rise Fantasia? :(