2010: The Results (PC=Wii>>>>360>PS3)

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#101 Deathtransit
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The fact that the Wii gets almost none of the AA, AAA, multiplats is a killer for the system. Like it or not its a fact.

Nintendo has become almost secluded to itself in the gaming industry nowdays, somewhat seperate from the games that are being released on the 360, PS3, and PC platforms. Its just not the same. To say that if you could have only one device to play video games on, you would choose the Wii would seem like madness.

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I agree, how can Wii win when it lacks all the big multiplats.
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#102 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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1. There is proof that GS is kind of biased in favor of the 360 for scoring.kuraimen
I'd love to see it.
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#103 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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The Wii had a very impressive year, especially since the last couple years were pretty terrible. I'll be picking up a few of the Wii games in the next couple weeks. Also, lol at 360 and PS3.
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#104 wooooode
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I like the logic of 7AE's is worth more than 8AAE's.
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#105 mystervj
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Why are AEs being counted?
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#106 abuabed
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I'll go with the PC for this year.
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#107 ManicAce
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These kind of lists are always a bit of a fail because there's so much crap on them that people don't really care about, but you can't really pick and choose what to count either. Anyway, to me PC won with Civ5, SC2 and a bunch of good multiplats, many of which it had the best versions like New Vegas and Metro. PS3 and 360 seem pretty much tied.
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#108 shutdown_202
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Wait.......people think Kinect games shouldnt be counted? there full games no? Its like not counting Majoras Mask because you need the expansion pack to play it.

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#109 Kashiwaba
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1- Wii = 36 As

2- PC = 34 As

3- PS3 = 18 As

4- 360 = 16 As

I guess thats how you should count it, it's Quality over Quantity.

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#110 themyth01
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1- Wii = 36 As

2- PC = 34 As

3- PS3 = 18 As

4- 360 = 16 As

I guess thats how you should count it.

Kashiwaba

Better yet, count only the games that start with G, consist of three words and end with R, followed by a three. PS3 wins.

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#111 Kashiwaba
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BTW! what about DS and PSP which one won 2010?

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#112 Raymundo_Manuel
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Just the way I like it. Nintendo and PC at the top 8)

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#113 PAL360
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]1. There is proof that GS is kind of biased in favor of the 360 for scoring.IronBass
I'd love to see it.

MGS4 (AAAA) and Resistence2 (AAA) should be enough to prove him wrong....;)

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#114 PAL360
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

1- Wii = 36 As

2- PC = 34 As

3- PS3 = 18 As

4- 360 = 16 As

I guess thats how you should count it.

themyth01

Better yet, count only the games that start with G, consist of three words and end with R, followed by a three. PS3 wins.

Indeed!

Still 360 would win that one in 2011 :P

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#115 Dibdibdobdobo
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Funniest damage control ive read in some time all in one place. Awesome.
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#116 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Library >>>>>>>>>>>> exclusives.
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#117 Rahnyc4
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pc and wii for me this year. these 2 kept me busy, cause my ps3 to collect major dust.
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#118 XenogearsMaster
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This is the most stupidest list, why bother counting the A titles?
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#119 Dibdibdobdobo
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This is the most stupidest list, why bother counting the A titles?XenogearsMaster
Because they can be played and can be found enjoyable by many people.
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#120 locopatho
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[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]This is the most stupidest list, why bother counting the A titles?Dibdibdobdobo
Because they can be played and can be found enjoyable by many people.

So can every game regardless of score, or whether it's a multiplat. Tropico 3 on 360 is B scored multiplat, that's also one of my favourite games. I don't have any point here really, ignore my ramblings :)

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#121 h575309
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Oh sweet, another exclusives battle. This should really be interesting.

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#122 XenogearsMaster
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[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]This is the most stupidest list, why bother counting the A titles?Dibdibdobdobo
Because they can be played and can be found enjoyable by many people.

Because I thought winning something means you would require quality not some average game. Quality > Quantity.
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#123 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]This is the most stupidest list, why bother counting the A titles?locopatho

Because they can be played and can be found enjoyable by many people.

So can every game regardless of score, or whether it's a multiplat. Tropico 3 on 360 is B scored multiplat, that's also one of my favourite games. I don't have any point here really, ignore my ramblings :)

True. Scores from review sites are just indications on whether you the buyer of the game will enjoy it or not and nothing more. My favourite games of this year thus far isnt rated a AAA game (Monster HUnter Tri) but its more enjoyable to me than CoD: Black Ops which scored AAA on pretty much every website, I'd also play Redsteel 2 over CoD: Black Ops also which scored 7.5.
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#124 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]This is the most stupidest list, why bother counting the A titles?XenogearsMaster
Because they can be played and can be found enjoyable by many people.

Because I thought winning something means you would require quality not some average game. Quality > Quantity.

Problem is you dont win anything. Its like winning a dyslexic spelling contest. You complained that the rules which where set which was A quality games upwards to be added to the debate and moaned. Quality of a game can be debated all day as one person variation of a quality game differs to another. If we went by your rules then Super Mario Galaxy 2 wins everything with its AAAAE rating here on SW's.
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[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] Because they can be played and can be found enjoyable by many people.Dibdibdobdobo
Because I thought winning something means you would require quality not some average game. Quality > Quantity.

Problem is you dont win anything. Its like winning a dyslexic spelling contest. You complained that the rules which where set which was A quality games upwards to be added to the debate and moaned. Quality of a game can be debated all day as one person variation of a quality game differs to another. If we went by your rules then Super Mario Galaxy 2 wins everything with its AAAAE rating here on SW's.

Quality also varies greatly between platforms and genres.
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#126 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"] Because I thought winning something means you would require quality not some average game. Quality > Quantity.blue_hazy_basic
Problem is you dont win anything. Its like winning a dyslexic spelling contest. You complained that the rules which where set which was A quality games upwards to be added to the debate and moaned. Quality of a game can be debated all day as one person variation of a quality game differs to another. If we went by your rules then Super Mario Galaxy 2 wins everything with its AAAAE rating here on SW's.

Quality also varies greatly between platforms and genres.

Quality also varies greatly between individuals. One mans polished AAA game is anothers boring polished turd.

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#127 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]1. There is proof that GS is kind of biased in favor of the 360 for scoring.IronBass
I'd love to see it.

The sheet that proves GS bias

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#128 Dark-Ancient
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360 got

Mass Effect 2 (GOTY)

Halo Reach (GOTY)

Alan Wake (GOTY)

Splinter Cell

Limbo

RDR (GOTY)

Bayonetta (GOTY)

Fable 3

Fallout Vegas

so by default wins over anything, it is the only one to have4 GOTY games and the best versions of RDR, Bayonetta, Vegas in consoles

http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?s=ffcdb82a33bc3a68717200a7adc658f4&t=415766

Current standings...

Red Dead Redemption - 6 (best version on xbox 360)
Mass Effect 2 - 4 (only on 360/PC)
Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 4
Alan Wake - 1 (xbox 360)
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood - 1
Bayonetta - 1 (best version on 360)
BioShock 2 - 1 (best version on 360)


So, 360 > PC >>> Wii >>>>>>>>>> PS3

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#129 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]1. There is proof that GS is kind of biased in favor of the 360 for scoring.kuraimen

I'd love to see it.

The sheet that proves GS bias

Another thing that proves GS is bias towards the 360 is our profiles, when you type in your gamertag, the gamercard automatically shows up on your profile, but when you type in your PSN ID, only your PSN ID name shows up, not your PSN card.

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#130 h575309
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

I'd love to see it.IronBass

The sheet that proves GS bias

Another thing that proves GS is bias towards the 360 is our profiles, when you type in your gamertag, it automatically shows up on your profile, but when you type in your PSN ID, only your PSN ID name shows up, not your PSN card.

So this confirms that the reviewers will give lower scores to PS3 games eh? I think this is what we call grasping for straws.
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#131 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

The sheet that proves GS bias

Another thing that proves GS is bias towards the 360 is our profiles, when you type in your gamertag, it automatically shows up on your profile, but when you type in your PSN ID, only your PSN ID name shows up, not your PSN card.

So this confirms that the reviewers will give lower scores to PS3 games eh? I think this is what we call grasping for straws.

Why? right there there's a pattern that the console the game is on affects the score most of the time which proves bias. Not straws there just facts.
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#132 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] I'd love to see it.Bigboi500

The sheet that proves GS bias

Another thing that proves GS is bias towards the 360 is our profiles, when you type in your gamertag, the gamercard automatically shows up on your profile, but when you type in your PSN ID, only your PSN ID name shows up, not your PSN card.

Yeah i noticed that too. I guess Microsoft "invests" more money in GS.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]1. There is proof that GS is kind of biased in favor of the 360 for scoring.kuraimen

I'd love to see it.

The sheet that proves GS bias

What that shows is that those sites use a ton of PS sites/mags that spam 10/10 for every game :roll: Oh and that alot of people demonstrate they don't know how to analyse statistics properly.
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#134 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

The sheet that proves GS bias

h575309

Another thing that proves GS is bias towards the 360 is our profiles, when you type in your gamertag, it automatically shows up on your profile, but when you type in your PSN ID, only your PSN ID name shows up, not your PSN card.

So this confirms that the reviewers will give lower scores to PS3 games eh? I think this is what we call grasping for straws.

It just shows where GSs head is at, and which system they give more thought to in general.

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#135 locopatho
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]1. There is proof that GS is kind of biased in favor of the 360 for scoring.kuraimen

I'd love to see it.

The sheet that proves GS bias

That proves nothing, you can't compare one review source to the aggregation of dozens and expect identical results.
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Another thing that proves GS is bias towards the 360 is our profiles, when you type in your gamertag, it automatically shows up on your profile, but when you type in your PSN ID, only your PSN ID name shows up, not your PSN card.

So this confirms that the reviewers will give lower scores to PS3 games eh? I think this is what we call grasping for straws.

It just shows where GSs head is at, and which system they give more thought to in general.

What system won GOTY last year again?
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#137 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] So this confirms that the reviewers will give lower scores to PS3 games eh? I think this is what we call grasping for straws.blue_hazy_basic

It just shows where GSs head is at, and which system they give more thought to in general.

What system won GOTY last year again?

That's just Kevin being....Kevin. :P He's the one who gave NMH a 9.0, and Assassin's Creed a 9.0 also.

GameSpot is bias towards Western systems and Western st Y le games in general because it's a Western site, but it's no big deal unless people took what GS says as the Holy word, and thankfully most knowledgeable people don't.

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#138 fueled-system
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So expansions now equal a game?:roll:

Sure are alot of those expansions in the PC lineup to make it look like the pc tied..

The wii won this year plain and simple..

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#139 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]1. There is proof that GS is kind of biased in favor of the 360 for scoring.kuraimen

I'd love to see it.

The sheet that proves GS bias

The only that list proves is that GS scores tend to differ from Metacritic. Which is to be expected.
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]It just shows where GSs head is at, and which system they give more thought to in general.

What system won GOTY last year again?

That's just Kevin being....Kevin. :P He's the one who gave NMH a 9.0, and Assassin's Creed a 9.0 also.

GameSpot is bias towards Western systems and Western st Y le games in general because it's a Western site, but it's no big deal unless people took what GS says as the Holy word, and thankfully most knowledgeable people don't.

Or because western games are generally better? :P On SW we use GS reviews, people can argue about them and how accurate they are all they want. I rarely buy a game dependant on reviews, and while i've disagreed with many GS reviews, I find it the most reliable source. At least its not IGN :?
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#141 locopatho
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]It just shows where GSs head is at, and which system they give more thought to in general.

Bigboi500

What system won GOTY last year again?

That's just Kevin being....Kevin. :P He's the one who gave NMH a 9.0, and Assassin's Creed a 9.0 also.

GameSpot is bias towards Western systems and Western st Y le games in general because it's a Western site, but it's no big deal unless people took what GS says as the Holy word, and thankfully most knowledgeable people don't.

Thats a bit silly imo. Sony, Nintendo, Platinum, Capcom games regularly score highly here, MGS4 was a 10, GOTY has been Japanese many times, last gen there were TONS of high scoring PS2 Japanese games. Its not GS's fault that Japanese devs aren't doing as well this gen.
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#142 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]

I'd love to see it.IronBass

The sheet that proves GS bias

The only that list proves is that GS scores tend to differ from Metacritic. Which is to be expected.

And that if you cherry pick certain games and use a site which collates different sites to achieve a number you can prove anything with statistics.
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#143 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

What system won GOTY last year again?blue_hazy_basic
That's just Kevin being....Kevin. :P He's the one who gave NMH a 9.0, and Assassin's Creed a 9.0 also.

GameSpot is bias towards Western systems and Western st Y le games in general because it's a Western site, but it's no big deal unless people took what GS says as the Holy word, and thankfully most knowledgeable people don't.

Thats a bit silly imo. Sony, Nintendo, Platinum, Capcom games regularly score highly here, MGS4 was a 10, GOTY has been Japanese many times, last gen there were TONS of high scoring PS2 Japanese games. Its not GS's fault that Japanese devs aren't doing as well this gen.

Once you actually analyse the data the conspiracy falls apart.
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#144 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] What system won GOTY last year again?blue_hazy_basic

That's just Kevin being....Kevin. :P He's the one who gave NMH a 9.0, and Assassin's Creed a 9.0 also.

GameSpot is bias towards Western systems and Western st Y le games in general because it's a Western site, but it's no big deal unless people took what GS says as the Holy word, and thankfully most knowledgeable people don't.

Or because western games are generally better? :P On SW we use GS reviews, people can argue about them and how accurate they are all they want. I rarely buy a game dependant on reviews, and while i've disagreed with many GS reviews, I find it the most reliable source. At least its not IGN :?

I don't use reviews either to buy games either 90% of the time. I'm also not being 100% serious, just giving Kevin a hard time. :P

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]That's just Kevin being....Kevin. :P He's the one who gave NMH a 9.0, and Assassin's Creed a 9.0 also.

GameSpot is bias towards Western systems and Western st Y le games in general because it's a Western site, but it's no big deal unless people took what GS says as the Holy word, and thankfully most knowledgeable people don't.

Or because western games are generally better? :P On SW we use GS reviews, people can argue about them and how accurate they are all they want. I rarely buy a game dependant on reviews, and while i've disagreed with many GS reviews, I find it the most reliable source. At least its not IGN :?

I don't use reviews either to buy games either 90% of the time. I'm also not being 100% serious, just giving Kevin a hard time. :P

ah ok! :P With all these things its important to nip them in the bud, because 1 person spreading misinformation gets read by someone else who, without reading any of the actual information, believes it and passes it on. So many things have been spread on SW like this maliciously by a few people.
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#146 blackace
Member since 2002 • 23576 Posts
laughable that god of war 3 and halo reach got AAA's. Reach has major problems, and deserved an 8.5-campaign in comparison to 3 and 1 was pretty mediocre. God of war 3's 2nd half was embarrasingly bad i wanted to turn it off. the gaming review industry gotta love it :lol:Microsoft1234
That's why we get many opinions from many game reviewers. The majority of those reviews scored these games "AAAE".
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#147 firefluff3
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360 also had deadly preminition, limbo. if you count amesia, a digital download game only, limbo should be counted too i think. then you'd have to go over all the arcade games for ps3 and xbox360 though.

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#148 badtaker
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Funny thing is that those Wii exclusives can be played on PC so PC wins by miles :P
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#149 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] I'd love to see it.IronBass

The sheet that proves GS bias

The only that list proves is that GS scores tend to differ from Metacritic. Which is to be expected.

Every site will differ, that's not the point, the point is how they differ. In GS case they differ in favor of the 360 and against the PS3 mostly in a significant way which shows bias.
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#150 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Every site will differ, that's not the point, the point is how they differ. In GS case they differ in favor of the 360 and against the PS3 mostly in a significant way which shows bias.kuraimen

The definition of "biased" is not "different from Metacritic", is "unfairly prejudiced".

If the only thing you can prove is that GS scores differentiate from Metacritic (something we all know), then you simply have no proof at all.