http://ww.vgchartz.com/hw_annual_summary.php
Thoughts?
DS 22.39
Wii 18.76
PS3 14.46
360 14.02
PSP 9.39
PS2 4.28
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The PS2 really does have some legs on it..
balfe1990
If that number is actually correct, I agree. It's amazing it still moves millions of systems per year.
vg chartz numbers are a formula composed of a guess broken down to a monthly guess multipled by 12 other guesses to get a yearly guess.
System wars tip: never use VGChartz for ownage.So PS3 outsold x60 again even with Kinect, interessting ^^ Good sales overall :)
ArchoNils2
[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Using VGcharts as your source is the same as not having a source at all.1Stark1
Once again, its all we have to go on until fiscal numbers from the companies, agreed? agreed:)
In other words, there was no point in making this thread, until the fiscal reports get released.[QUOTE="1Stark1"]
[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Using VGcharts as your source is the same as not having a source at all.ianuilliam
Once again, its all we have to go on until fiscal numbers from the companies, agreed? agreed:)
In other words, there was no point in making this thread, until the fiscal reports get released.By that logic, theres no point to any sales thread until fiscal reports
[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Using VGcharts as your source is the same as not having a source at all.1Stark1
Once again, its all we have to go on until fiscal numbers from the companies, agreed? agreed:)
No........it's all you have to go on. VGChartz is widely considered a bogus source here and will only attempt to use it if it highlights something in their favor (and by your posting history, it's not hard to see what you are highlighting) I'll wait for the company numbers or I can pull my own numbers out of my *** for the same effect.
[QUOTE="1Stark1"]
[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Using VGcharts as your source is the same as not having a source at all.bez2083
Once again, its all we have to go on until fiscal numbers from the companies, agreed? agreed:)
No........it's all you have to go on. VGChartz is widely considered a bogus source here and will only attempt to use it if it highlights something in their favor (and by your posting history, it's not hard to see what you are highlighting) I'll wait for the company numbers or I can pull my own numbers out of my *** for the same effect.
Going off one region alone is just as bogus so........yeah
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[QUOTE="1Stark1"]
Once again, its all we have to go on until fiscal numbers from the companies, agreed? agreed:)
1Stark1
No........it's all you have to go on. VGChartz is widely considered a bogus source here and will only attempt to use it if it highlights something in their favor (and by your posting history, it's not hard to see what you are highlighting) I'll wait for the company numbers or I can pull my own numbers out of my *** for the same effect.
Going off one region alone is just as bogus so........yeah
Yeah, I agree that's wrong also, but what's wrong with just waiting?
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[QUOTE="bez2083"]
No........it's all you have to go on. VGChartz is widely considered a bogus source here and will only attempt to use it if it highlights something in their favor (and by your posting history, it's not hard to see what you are highlighting) I'll wait for the company numbers or I can pull my own numbers out of my *** for the same effect.
bez2083
Going off one region alone is just as bogus so........yeah
Yeah, I agree that's wrong also, but what's wrong with just waiting?
Tell that to Lems that are popping Moet over NPD sales lol. NPD is no more accurate than VG charts considering they skip several retailers.I see no problem in waiting though, fiscal reports will come soon enough. Nothing wrong with discussing what could be though.
Everyone knows if the 360 had more sales on VGChartz people would claiming ownage but since the PS3 outsold the 360 worldwide here like it did every year since its release its lolVGchartz.Keiji993
No, get it straight, it's been "lol VGChartz" here for quite a long time, regardless of what console sold the most. It works both ways here, which is what I was alluding to. People (cow, lem, whatever) only use the source and defend it if it has #'s that work in their favor.
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[QUOTE="1Stark1"]
Going off one region alone is just as bogus so........yeah
1Stark1
Yeah, I agree that's wrong also, but what's wrong with just waiting?
Tell that to Lems that are popping Moet over NPD sales lol. NPD is no more accurate than VG charts considering they skip several retailers.I see no problem in waiting though, fiscal reports will come soon enough. Nothing wrong with discussing what could be though.
"And they'll continue to "celebrate" until it's passed up by the PS3. But yet both sides ignore the elephant in the room which has beat the bricks off both of them this gen.............
[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Using VGcharts as your source is the same as not having a source at all.1Stark1
Once again, its all we have to go on until fiscal numbers from the companies, agreed? agreed:)
The point is that the numbers are worthless. It's like asking a hobo on the street. You could say, "Hey, his numbers are better than nothing!" but you'd still be wrong.[QUOTE="racing1750"]VGchartz? Seriously TC? 1Stark1
Its a more accurate representation of worldwide numbers than NPD, so yea seriously.
That's probably because NPD is US-only. :|
Using VGcharts as your source is the same as not having a source at all.rybe1025True. We know those numbers aren't accurate. VGC is constanting adjusting their numbers UP and DOWN, UP and DOWN. This is what happens when you use a formula and make wild guesses. Even the NPD is 100% actually, as they don't track every major retailer. So NPD numbers are most like lower then what the actually REAL numbers are.
Well at least VGChartz numbers warms things up showing that it's was a close thing between 360 and PS3 last year and I'm also guessing those two systems are the only reason this was posted and for interwebz ownage purposes. Other than that VGC numbers usually aren't useful.
[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Using VGcharts as your source is the same as not having a source at all.blackaceTrue. We know those numbers aren't accurate. VGC is constanting adjusting their numbers UP and DOWN, UP and DOWN. This is what happens when you use a formula and make wild guesses. Even the NPD is 100% actually, as they don't track every major retailer. So NPD numbers are most like lower then what the actually REAL numbers are.
Yeah could be, VGchartz usually undertracks PS3 numbers and overtrack 360 numbers.
True. We know those numbers aren't accurate. VGC is constanting adjusting their numbers UP and DOWN, UP and DOWN. This is what happens when you use a formula and make wild guesses. Even the NPD is 100% actually, as they don't track every major retailer. So NPD numbers are most like lower then what the actually REAL numbers are.[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]Using VGcharts as your source is the same as not having a source at all.1Stark1
Yeah could be, VGchartz usually undertracks PS3 numbers and overtrack 360 numbers.
well yeah i mean... y'know with the conspiracy and all. maybe somebody should make a petition.In other words, there was no point in making this thread, until the fiscal reports get released.[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]
[QUOTE="1Stark1"]
Once again, its all we have to go on until fiscal numbers from the companies, agreed? agreed:)
1Stark1
By that logic, theres no point to any sales thread until fiscal reports
which is godd logic actually.True. We know those numbers aren't accurate. VGC is constanting adjusting their numbers UP and DOWN, UP and DOWN. This is what happens when you use a formula and make wild guesses. Even the NPD is 100% actually, as they don't track every major retailer. So NPD numbers are most like lower then what the actually REAL numbers are.[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]Using VGcharts as your source is the same as not having a source at all.1Stark1
Yeah could be, VGchartz usually undertracks PS3 numbers and overtrack 360 numbers.
cow conspiracy theory
True. We know those numbers aren't accurate. VGC is constanting adjusting their numbers UP and DOWN, UP and DOWN. This is what happens when you use a formula and make wild guesses. Even the NPD is 100% actually, as they don't track every major retailer. So NPD numbers are most like lower then what the actually REAL numbers are.[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]Using VGcharts as your source is the same as not having a source at all.1Stark1
Yeah could be, VGchartz usually undertracks PS3 numbers and overtrack 360 numbers.
do you have proof of that? cos it sounds like tin hat stuff to me,lolPS3 was the best selling HD console of 2010:D 2011 looks to be even better with the huge exclusive lineup. Bright days ahead for the PS brand indeed.
1Stark1
so, do you have the officials 2010 numbers????, why dont you share a real link, vgchartz is not a valid source.
PS3 was the best selling HD console of 2010:D 2011 looks to be even better with the huge exclusive lineup. Bright days ahead for the PS brand indeed.
1Stark1
so, do you have the officials 2010 numbers????, why dont you share a real link, vgchartz is not a valid source.
So . . . Gamespot declares the PS2 a "legacy" platform 2 years ago, and it just sold 4 million units in 2010.
If I was GS, I'd be embarrassed.
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[QUOTE="1Stark1"]
Once again, its all we have to go on until fiscal numbers from the companies, agreed? agreed:)
In other words, there was no point in making this thread, until the fiscal reports get released.By that logic, theres no point to any sales thread until fiscal reports
And now you see the truth, welcome to SW.[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Using VGcharts as your source is the same as not having a source at all.1Stark1
Once again, its all we have to go on until fiscal numbers from the companies, agreed? agreed:)
The official tallies are about two weeks out. VGChartz isn't all we have to go on until then... we have every other single guess too. None are worth posting as gospel. Just wait a few more days and then discuss...
Agreed? :shock:
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