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#51 blaznwiipspman1
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NDP is an accurate source even if it doesn't collect data from certain retailers. All that needs to be done is to extrapolate the data from NDP and you would most likely be within 2-3% of the real total sales. The same can't be said for VGcharts lol...anyone can just guess numbers and make a site about it.

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#52 NWA90s
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http://ww.vgchartz.com/hw_annual_summary.php

Thoughts?

DS 22.39

Wii 18.76

PS3 14.46

360 14.02

PSP 9.39

PS2 4.28

1Stark1
how about gaming PCs?
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#53 edidili
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[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

http://ww.vgchartz.com/hw_annual_summary.php

Thoughts?

DS 22.39

Wii 18.76

PS3 14.46

360 14.02

PSP 9.39

PS2 4.28

NWA90s

how about gaming PCs?

How can you count it though? You could go with direct x10 or x11 cards sold but would still be inaccurate. Who buys it for gaming and who for work or whatever.

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#54 WilliamRLBaker
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NDP is an accurate source even if it doesn't collect data from certain retailers. All that needs to be done is to extrapolate the data from NDP and you would most likely be within 2-3% of the real total sales. The same can't be said for VGcharts lol...anyone can just guess numbers and make a site about it.

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Even though VGchartz abou 70% of the time is correct. I've watched its much like pachter We make fun of him but a good 70-80% of the time he is correct.
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#55 SUD123456
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Everyone knows if the 360 had more sales on VGChartz people would claiming ownage but since the PS3 outsold the 360 worldwide here like it did every year since its release its lolVGchartz.Keiji993

For the record, X360 outsold PS3 in 2008.

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#56 FatCatPatRat
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Everyone knows if the 360 had more sales on VGChartz people would claiming ownage but since the PS3 outsold the 360 worldwide here like it did every year since its release its lolVGchartz.Keiji993

but its always beebn 'lol vgchartz' no matter which system :?

even wikipedia agrees, they dont allow you to use vgchartz as a source in an article.

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#57 heretrix
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[QUOTE="bez2083"]

[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

Going off one region alone is just as bogus so........yeah

1Stark1

Yeah, I agree that's wrong also, but what's wrong with just waiting?

Tell that to Lems that are popping Moet over NPD sales lol. NPD is no more accurate than VG charts considering they skip several retailers.I see no problem in waiting though, fiscal reports will come soon enough. Nothing wrong with discussing what could be though.

Nonsense.At least those numbers aren't made up. It doesn't matter if certain retailers are missing, Those numbers are accurate for the group of retailers they do count.Nobody ever said that the NPD numbers are the defacto amount of units sold everywhere, they are accurate for the group of retailers that they represent.

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#58 heretrix
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PS3 out sold the 360 by a little over 400k according to failchartz. And they said the PS3 could overtake it this year, haha. At that rate it'd be the next gen before it did. Haha.Blixxed

I've said this from the very beginning, that's pretty much what's going to happen.Even if the PS3 outsells the 360 in total units this gen, by the time it happens, it will already be too late. In fact, it is already too late. It's not going to make one bit of difference except to frothing fanboys on the internet. The 360 has already done what MS needed it to do.

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#59 SUD123456
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PS3 was the best selling HD console of 2010:D 2011 looks to be even better with the huge exclusive lineup. Bright days ahead for the PS brand indeed.

1Stark1

PS3 significantly outsold X360 in the first half of 2010. X360 marginally outsold the PS3 in the second half. It is shaping up

PS3 does have an excellent exclusive lineup in 2011.

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#60 themyth01
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Expected really. PS3 did really well at the start of the year, it matched the 360 on NA and beat the 360 elsewhere. 360 only started to pick up speed after the Slim launch but it still wasn't enough to catch up. Wii is still doing great but I think it's finally started to slow down.
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#61 TacticalDesire
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Gotta say pretty amazing how the PS2 is still chugging.

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#62 Funconsole
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VGchartz :lol:
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#63 StealthMonkey4
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Not much to say besides "Lol VGChartz."

VGChartz isn't and never will be a valid source.

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#64 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="bez2083"]

[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

Going off one region alone is just as bogus so........yeah

1Stark1

Yeah, I agree that's wrong also, but what's wrong with just waiting?

Tell that to Lems that are popping Moet over NPD sales lol. NPD is no more accurate than VG charts considering they skip several retailers.I see no problem in waiting though, fiscal reports will come soon enough. Nothing wrong with discussing what could be though.

Noones popping Moet over anything. People need to stop being quite so loyal to one system. You do realize they're a corporate company that is all about the bottomline.

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#65 TacticalDesire
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Everyone knows if the 360 had more sales on VGChartz people would claiming ownage but since the PS3 outsold the 360 worldwide here like it did every year since its release its lolVGchartz.Keiji993

This statement is lol worthy. Do you really believe "Lems" outnumber "Cows" 9 to 1?

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#66 applefan1991  Moderator
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I love how in NPD threads all the lems are claiming ownage because they sold more, yet now that someone uses VGChartz stating something different, well then it's a bogus source, and none of it's true. Admit it, you are only complaining because something is showing that your system lost in a Halo, new console, kinect year to a console, that is more expensive and didn't have a great year game wise.
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#67 FIipMode
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I love how in NPD threads all the lems are claiming ownage because they sold more, yet now that someone uses VGChartz stating something different, well then it's a bogus source, and none of it's true. Admit it, you are only complaining because something is showing that your system lost in a Halo, new console, kinect year to a console, that is more expensive and didn't have a great year game wise. WadeFan
The only reason people are complaining is because it's been showed time and time again how unreliable Vgchartz is. How can you compare this to NPD threads when NPD numbers are actually reliable?
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#68 BigBoss154
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While I expect the PS3 to have outsold the 360 in 2010...lol VGChartz.

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#69 heretrix
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I love how in NPD threads all the lems are claiming ownage because they sold more, yet now that someone uses VGChartz stating something different, well then it's a bogus source, and none of it's true. Admit it, you are only complaining because something is showing that your system lost in a Halo, new console, kinect year to a console, that is more expensive and didn't have a great year game wise. WadeFan
VG chartz is ALWAYS considered invalid no matter who brings it up. Anyone that says or thinks otherwise is lying.

Anytime VG chartz is brought up it's pretty much a given that the response "LOL VG Chartz" is soon to follow.

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#70 SakusEnvoy
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PS3 almost certainly outshipped 360 worldwide last year, of course; we already know it won the Jan-Mar, Apr-Jun, and Jul-Sep quarters by a significant amount. But rest assured, whatever the results of Oct-Dec 2010, VGChartz is almost certainly completely wrong.

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[QUOTE="WadeFan"]I love how in NPD threads all the lems are claiming ownage because they sold more, yet now that someone uses VGChartz stating something different, well then it's a bogus source, and none of it's true. Admit it, you are only complaining because something is showing that your system lost in a Halo, new console, kinect year to a console, that is more expensive and didn't have a great year game wise. heretrix

VG chartz is ALWAYS considered invalid no matter who brings it up. Anyone that says or thinks otherwise is lying.

Anytime VG chartz is brought up it's pretty much a given that the response "LOL VG Chartz" is soon to follow.

Trust me, i am no way advocating the use of VGCHarts, however, i am saying that if you are going to claim own age over VG charts then allow for own age to be claimed over NPD numbers, and vice versa. It's annoying to go to this thread and see people saying that VGChartz are not usable, then they claim own age over NPD sales saying that x system is outselling y system.... Yes NPD are true valuable numbers, but onl in north America. That's a small look. Im not saying that we should trust VGChartz, im just saying that until the companies tell us, then we are seeing guesses or a small percent of the big picture, so it's foolish to try and claim ownage
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="WadeFan"]I love how in NPD threads all the lems are claiming ownage because they sold more, yet now that someone uses VGChartz stating something different, well then it's a bogus source, and none of it's true. Admit it, you are only complaining because something is showing that your system lost in a Halo, new console, kinect year to a console, that is more expensive and didn't have a great year game wise. WadeFan

VG chartz is ALWAYS considered invalid no matter who brings it up. Anyone that says or thinks otherwise is lying.

Anytime VG chartz is brought up it's pretty much a given that the response "LOL VG Chartz" is soon to follow.

Trust me, i am no way advocating the use of VGCHarts, however, i am saying that if you are going to claim own age over VG charts then allow for own age to be claimed over NPD numbers, and vice versa. It's annoying to go to this thread and see people saying that VGChartz are not usable, then they claim own age over NPD sales saying that x system is outselling y system.... Yes NPD are true valuable numbers, but onl in north America. That's a small look. Im not saying that we should trust VGChartz, im just saying that until the companies tell us, then we are seeing guesses or a small percent of the big picture, so it's foolish to try and claim ownage

Not even North America, just the US. And not all stores in the US either.
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#73 Nonstop-Madness
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At CES 2010, Ballmer announced 39 Million Xbox 360's World Wide. At CES 2011, Ballmer announced over 50 Million Xbox 360's World Wide. Considering Ballmer said over 50 Million, we could assumed its a low 50 Million (ex. 52) and not a high 50 Million (ex. 58). ~ 11M+ sold for the Xbox 360 in 2010.
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#74 nickydanooz
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ps2 still hanging in there..hahahah classic. and comparing imo it wasnt the best gaming year..sales are pretty solid
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#75 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="WadeFan"]I love how in NPD threads all the lems are claiming ownage because they sold more, yet now that someone uses VGChartz stating something different, well then it's a bogus source, and none of it's true. Admit it, you are only complaining because something is showing that your system lost in a Halo, new console, kinect year to a console, that is more expensive and didn't have a great year game wise. WadeFan

VG chartz is ALWAYS considered invalid no matter who brings it up. Anyone that says or thinks otherwise is lying.

Anytime VG chartz is brought up it's pretty much a given that the response "LOL VG Chartz" is soon to follow.

Trust me, i am no way advocating the use of VGCHarts, however, i am saying that if you are going to claim own age over VG charts then allow for own age to be claimed over NPD numbers, and vice versa. It's annoying to go to this thread and see people saying that VGChartz are not usable, then they claim own age over NPD sales saying that x system is outselling y system.... Yes NPD are true valuable numbers, but onl in north America. That's a small look. Im not saying that we should trust VGChartz, im just saying that until the companies tell us, then we are seeing guesses or a small percent of the big picture, so it's foolish to try and claim ownage

"Yes NPD are true valuable numbers,"

Yes, they are and that in itself makes them multitudes more valid than people just guessing. Again, no one in their right mind would think that NPD represents the ENTIRE worldwide market, what it does represent is a large percentage of one of the worlds largest markets, arguably THE worlds largest market (America). A market that this particular website is based in. So yeah when people start quoting mystical numbers from countries where there is no official method of reporting sales it deserves to be ridiculed.

I'd take an accurate sample of a market over estimates any time.

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#76 edidili
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"Yes NPD are true valuable numbers,"

Yes, they are and that in itself makes them multitudes more valid than people just guessing. Again, no one in their right mind would think that NPD represents the ENTIRE worldwide market, what it does represent is a large percentage of one of the worlds largest markets, arguably THE worlds largest market (America). A market that this particular website is based in. So yeah when people start quoting mystical numbers from countries where there is no official method of reporting sales it deserves to be ridiculed.

I'd take an accurate sample of a market over estimates any time.

heretrix

NPD can say us how the market is in NA and that's all. We all know that xbox sells pretty good in USA. Worldwide in the other hand is different, a lot.

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would be a good win for ps3 as 360 had the slim released in 2010.
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#78 XenogearsMaster
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The PS3 beats the 360 in Japan by 1.55 mil to 0.21 mil.
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#79 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

"Yes NPD are true valuable numbers,"

Yes, they are and that in itself makes them multitudes more valid than people just guessing. Again, no one in their right mind would think that NPD represents the ENTIRE worldwide market,what it does represent is a large percentage of one of the worlds largest markets, arguably THE worlds largest market (America). A market that this particular website is based in. So yeah when people start quoting mystical numbers from countries where there is no official method of reporting sales it deserves to be ridiculed.

I'd take an accurate sample of a market over estimates any time.

edidili

NPD can say us how the market is in NA and that's all. We all know that xbox sells pretty good in USA. Worldwide in the other hand is different, a lot.

That's kind of what I already said. :|

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#80 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Looks accurate in terms of order, but as the numbers go. No chance, afterall, it's vgchartz. :P