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#1 TheManOfChoice
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http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=0&id=27287

Summed up:

Pros: Cutscenes, Graphics, Longest MGS, Freedom, Sound

Cons: Story too confusing, Bosses too complex/Too much shooting

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#2 NoLimitJay1
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If the story wasnt confusing, then it wouldnt be MGS.

The hype train is picking up steam!

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#3 lawlessx
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too much shooting in a 3rd person shooter? :?

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#4 dewmandew7
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too much shooting in a 3rd person shooter? :?

lawlessx

It's supposed to be a stealth game... but it's still a stupid negative.

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#5 Marth6781
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If the story wasnt confusing, then it wouldnt be MGS.

The hype train is picking up steam!

NoLimitJay1

The story can be confusing without being presented in a confusing way.

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#6 lolkie_81
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Nothing wrong with to much shooting at least theres alot of action. Unless theres so much it gets old. That has never been the case in other mgs games so Im not worried.
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#7 numba1234
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too much shooting in a 3rd person shooter? :?

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too complex story :shrug:
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#8 pieatorium
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too much shooting in a 3rd person shooter? :?

lawlessx

I though MGS was always classified as a stealth-action game, usually when they label these things the predominant aspect gets the front billing (action-adventure), so maybe they feel it has gone more action oriented than stealth.

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#9 terdoo
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If the story wasnt confusing, then it wouldnt be MGS.

The hype train is picking up steam!

NoLimitJay1

Very True.The MGS 2 story left me...WTF.There was just way to much stuff going on.

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#10 darkslider99
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too much shooting in a 3rd person shooter? :?

lawlessx

Maybe they mean it faces too much on shooting, and not enough on stealth, puzzles, etc? Only thing I can think of.
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#11 livespawn
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i would regard to much shooting a negative in a mgs game. stealth is the way to go, but a big gunfight is good once in a while
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#14 rolo107
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[QUOTE="NoLimitJay1"]

If the story wasnt confusing, then it wouldnt be MGS.

The hype train is picking up steam!

Marth6781

The story can be confusing without being presented in a confusing way.

Eh... And the review does not state either way... So I don't see the relevance.

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#15 Nolan16
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this was a horrible reveiw of MGS4 92/100 is good in all but it should of goten at least a 95 96 the negitives where completely useless..
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#16 Truth-slayer
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I dunno, source is alittle fishy. They claim GTAIV is the best action game ever made(one of the best maybe...but the absolute best?). Still encouraging nonetheless especially since the negatives could probably be considered positives.
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#17 DarthKalo
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"story to complex"="my memory lasts 5 minutes"
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#18 Ibacai
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Yay, complex bosses. That's a plus in my book.
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#19 Truth-slayer
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i would regard to much shooting a negative in a mgs game. stealth is the way to go, but a big gunfight is good once in a while livespawn
In fairness atleast part of the game takes place on the battlefield there is going to be people shooting at each other regardless.
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#20 RotaryRX7
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Damn! This review did it for me, cancelling MGS4 pre-order right now!

I bought the game so that I could roam around, collecting weapons, but NEVER firing them. That would be ridiculous!! To think, shooting was involved....what a freakin' disappointment.

:roll:

/sarcasm

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#21 Nolan16
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yes this review was bad i accept more then a 92/100 from mgs4 we will wait for GS And ign.
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#22 him42
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"story to complex"="my memory lasts 5 minutes"DarthKalo

not necessarily. The story might not be delivered as effectively as it could. Still though, this game and the story will be awesome

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#23 MyzeDivine
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Should be noted that the magazine is a casual only magazine, and MGS is definitely not a casual game.
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#24 AC-360
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[QUOTE="NoLimitJay1"]

If the story wasnt confusing, then it wouldnt be MGS.

The hype train is picking up steam!

Marth6781

The story can be confusing without being presented in a confusing way.

You made no sense whatsoever. Just letting you know.
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#25 TheManOfChoice
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Just so you guys know, this is a very, VERY casual German game magazine. They gave GTA4 100/100 and them giving MGS4 a 92 is just insane. They also said that MGS4 has almost GTA-like freedom(although that seems a little far-fetched)
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#26 cobrax75
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"story to complex"="my memory lasts 5 minutes"DarthKalo

I think that might have been mistranslated....I think they probably implied that the story was convoluted.

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#27 imapieceofwood
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cant wait!! I hope there are so many twists and turns in the story like in mgs 2. Im currently playing mgs 3 but im not doing to well ecause im always dying constantly
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#28 hiryu3
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too much shooting in a 3rd person shooter? :?

lawlessx
my thoughts exactly
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#29 lolkie_81
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cant wait!! I hope there are so many twists and turns in the story like in mgs 2. Im currently playing mgs 3 but im not doing to well ecause im always dying constantlyimapieceofwood

Mgs2 was my favorite mgs game. For some reason I just could never get into 3. I lost intrist after I beat "the end"

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#30 bstarter29
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Those cons are stupid. Story too complex? It's MGS. If you were expecting a simple story, you shouldn't be reviewing this game. Complex bosses? I don't understand. Are the bosses hard to figure out how to beat or just too challenging? Either way, it sounds dumb. And too much shooting? Yes, because we all know in warzones, that limited shooting takes place.

W/e. In fact, this review made me more excited. Very complex story (like MGS2), and complex bosses (like MGS). It just keeps getting better.

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#31 Delsage
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Comming from a site that gave review scores like these:

GTA4: 96/100

Gears of War: 91/100

Halo3: 86/100

Yeah I'd say that MGS4 92/100 is pretty darn good. :)

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#32 aka_aj03
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oh please gamespot don't take points off because the bosses were too hard and the story were too complex to understand.
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#33 TheManOfChoice
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Those cons are stupid. Story too complex? It's MGS. If you were expecting a simple story, you shouldn't be reviewing this game. Complex bosses? I don't understand. Are the bosses hard to figure out how to beat or just too challenging? Either way, it sounds dumb. And too much shooting? Yes, because we all know in warzones, that limited shooting takes place.

W/e. In fact, this review made me more excited. Very complex story (like MGS2), and complex bosses (like MGS). It just keeps getting better.

bstarter29

They are apparently very hard even once you figure out the trick to beating them. The BatB Unit all of special quirks or gimmicks to beating them, like how you had to change the controller port to the 2nd port to beat Psycho Mantis. Also, even when you figure out how to beat them, there is still the challenge of beating them the proper way, to bring them back to their human selves.

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#34 RotaryRX7
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[QUOTE="bstarter29"]

Those cons are stupid. Story too complex? It's MGS. If you were expecting a simple story, you shouldn't be reviewing this game. Complex bosses? I don't understand. Are the bosses hard to figure out how to beat or just too challenging? Either way, it sounds dumb. And too much shooting? Yes, because we all know in warzones, that limited shooting takes place.

W/e. In fact, this review made me more excited. Very complex story (like MGS2), and complex bosses (like MGS). It just keeps getting better.

TheManOfChoice

They are apparently very hard even once you figure out the trick to beating them. The BatB Unit all of special quirks or gimmicks to beating them, like how you had to change the controller port to the 2nd port to beat Psycho Mantis. Also, even when you figure out how to beat them, there is still the challenge of beating them the proper way, to bring them back to their human selves.

That sounds really fun actually. The controller port thing with Psycho Mantis was so cool lol. I could go for some real challenging bosses.

...oh crap, I still need to beat the last boss in Lost Planet. :oops:

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#35 Marth6781
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="NoLimitJay1"]

If the story wasnt confusing, then it wouldnt be MGS.

The hype train is picking up steam!

AC-360

The story can be confusing without being presented in a confusing way.

You made no sense whatsoever. Just letting you know.

Ughh... GS

The story can still be "too complex" and not have points taken off, but the reviewer probally took points off because the story was presented in confusing ways.

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#36 Bloodseeker23
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oh please gamespot don't take points off because the bosses were too hard and the story were too complex to understand.aka_aj03

They take away points because.. *teh gameplay!! TOO MUCH!! it doesn't match teh genre of this game*

LOL

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#37 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="NoLimitJay1"]

If the story wasnt confusing, then it wouldnt be MGS.

The hype train is picking up steam!

rolo107

The story can be confusing without being presented in a confusing way.

Eh... And the review does not state either way... So I don't see the relevance.

Just because you don't see it because they didn't spell it out for you doesn't mean it may not be there.

It just means they didn't go into detail about it.

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#38 Zenkuso
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Sounds to me like it'll be a perfect 10 in my book.

Too much shooting? Thats something of a way you play the game to begin with and typically the bosses in metal gear solid have required alot of shooting anyway so thats a laugh.

As for the complex story that will actually make metal gear solid fans happy cause MGS3 story wasn't the greatest in the series by fan standards. (this game was made for the fans remember).

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#39 Acemaster27
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Just subtract 10% from the average media score to get GSs score.
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#40 NoLimitJay1
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Just subtract 10% from the average media score to get GSs score.Acemaster27

Like with GTAIV?

FAIL

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#41 stereointegrity
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if the story was anyless confusing it wouldnt be a MGS game and we would call it Splinter Cell
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#42 gtawoof
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ugh @ dumb people.

The reviewer probably thought MGS2 was confusing too.

Pay attention in school! read a textbook or something and you'll understand that kinda stuff.

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#43 TREAL_Since
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The cons are laughable.

Last time I checked complex boss fights are a plus. Like Zelda... Oh well...

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#44 tmntPunchout
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Reviewer obviously wants more cutscenes.. Pro - cutscenes / Con - too much shooting... Wonder what other games this reviewer likes?
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#45 Nolan16
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Reviewer obviously wants more cutscenes.. Pro - cutscenes / Con - too much shooting... Wonder what other games this reviewer likes?tmntPunchout

Final Fantasy lol...

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#46 TREAL_Since
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Good thing this casual mag's score won't go into the GameRankings score.
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#47 xkojimax
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too much... shooting?

hmm...

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#48 kostmpekir
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http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=0&id=27287

Summed up:

Pros: Cutscenes, Graphics, Longest MGS, Freedom, Sound

Cons: Story too confusing, Bosses too complex/Too much shooting

TheManOfChoice

The graphics are mediocre at best IMO, the game is good, but miles away from beeing as good as PS3 people hype it to be, and is short comparing to most 360 offering this year

Also the 92% score is like a gift in the name of MGS series, if it was not called MGS4, would get something in 8/10 area i think

Like Halo 3 got far higher than deserved

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#49 Nolan16
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[QUOTE="TheManOfChoice"]

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=0&id=27287

Summed up:

Pros: Cutscenes, Graphics, Longest MGS, Freedom, Sound

Cons: Story too confusing, Bosses too complex/Too much shooting

kostmpekir

The graphics are mediocre at best IMO, the game is good, but miles away from beeing as good as PS3 people hype it to be, and is short comparing to most 360 offering this year

wow you are really a fan boy it got a 9.2/10 on a site that gave halo 3 a 8.6 and gta4 a 9.6....

and it deserved a better score what comments are to much shooting?

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#50 tmntPunchout
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[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]Reviewer obviously wants more cutscenes.. Pro - cutscenes / Con - too much shooting... Wonder what other games this reviewer likes?Nolan16

Final Fantasy lol...

I think that doesn't have enough cutscenes for them... MGS4 is at least 7/8 hours of scenes rights? Sounds to me like they just want to watch videogames instead of playing them.. ridiculous haha..