3 things that every fanboy should not say

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#51 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

how about if somebody wanted to compare the ps3 and wii lineup and use a game that's on the 360 as well. what special term do they get to use?

CaseyWegner

Why would you bring up a 360 game when you're comparing the PS3 and Wii lineups?

a game that's on the 360 and ps3 but not the wii.

But your own theoretical situation discounts the need to consider 360 games. You would definitely include multiplatforms such as Assassin's Creed when comparing PS3 and Wii or 360 and Wii. I know I would.

Edit:  But clearly not if comparing the 360 to the PS3.

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#52 Ptolemaueus
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

how about if somebody wanted to compare the ps3 and wii lineup and use a game that's on the 360 as well. what special term do they get to use?

CaseyWegner

Why would you bring up a 360 game when you're comparing the PS3 and Wii lineups?

a game that's on the 360 and ps3 but not the wii.

If 360 wasn't being compared I think that would still be okay, since the game isn't on the Wii.  When I made my comment about not using the PC in the exclusives arguement, that was an example since the TC was talking about 360/PC games.  It works when comparing any lineup.  For instance, the PS3 game, even though it's on the 360, would still not be on the Wii so having that particular game in there would be valid as long as the 360 doesn't come into the discussion.

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#53 DrinkDuff
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Madden scored better on Wii.Jandurin
Yeah, that takes one of the TC's points down half a notch. The Wiimote will add a new level of interactivity that hasn't been done before. Just because they did a quick and dirty port to get in on the wii during the holidays, does not remove the possibility that motion sensing will not evolve gameplay. Look at Warioware for example. Could this have been nearly as much fun with a standard controller? I don't think so.
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#54 -supercharged-
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As we all know the PS2 had the worst graphics last gen, poopinloop32

I'm goin to have to disagree on that

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#55 poopinloop32
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[QUOTE="poopinloop32"]

As we all know the PS2 had the worst graphics last gen, -supercharged-

I'm goin to have to disagree on that

why you disagree?
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#56 poopinloop32
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Madden scored better on Wii.DrinkDuff
Yeah, that takes one of the TC's points down half a notch. The Wiimote will add a new level of interactivity that hasn't been done before. Just because they did a quick and dirty port to get in on the wii during the holidays, does not remove the possibility that motion sensing will not evolve gameplay. Look at Warioware for example. Could this have been nearly as much fun with a standard controller? I don't think so.

Yes but Warioware was first party....I meant that just because a muliplat game is on the Wiimote doesnt mean its automatically better
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#57 linkhero1
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It's not going to change fanboys you know. I agree with what you say though.

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#58 Spartan070
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no one agrees with me?poopinloop32
I agree.
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#59 poopinloop32
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It's not going to change fanboys you know. I agree with what you say though.

linkhero1
I dont want to change fanboys....
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#60 Mancow_wrestler
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Lemmings-
1."The 360 graphics kill the PS3s graphics"-This is a more comman saying as cow bashing has been popular the past few months. Sure the 360 looks better than the PS3 now(PS3s only been out for 3 months) but I think this summer this is all going to change with titles Hevenly Sword and GT5

2."The PS3s online will never come close to the 360"-So far this has been true but I think Sony could get it together..they made a huge improvment on online this gen

3."Console Exclusive"-This is the worst thing the Lemmings have said so far..Since when is the PC dead? Lemmings must face the fact that thier are a lot of key game coming for the 360 that are also on the PC

Cows-
1."Who needs rumble"-This is pure hypcritsy as rumble was a big talk last gen and everyone liked it..but now that the PS3 doesnt have it its all of a sudden useless?

2."This game will be the Halo killa"-Everytime I hear this line I laugh...Cows say that Halo is overrated but they hype every FPS to be the Halo killer? Thier is a reason why the PS3 has the most flops

3."Graphics mean everything"- As we all know the PS2 had the worst graphics last gen, but this gen the Cows are hyping the PS3 becasue of its graphics? Graphics do matter but not to the point where you cant play a game if it has bad graphics

Sheep-
1."Who needs Multiplatform?We got First Party"-This one is very comman and might be a little denial. Every time I say to Sheep that they will miss out on games like BioShock and Assasins Creed they revert back to saying Zelda or Metriod or Mario. Sheep must learn that Third Party is more important than First Party

2."The Wiis Graphics are great"-Compared to what?The PS2? The only way you can see the Wiis graphics as great is if you never played the 360 or PS3..*waits for Sheep to show a picture of SMG*..and another thing...The Wii does not have a outstanding third party graphical game...where as the PS3 and 360 got them on luanch

3."The Wiimote will make gameplay better than the 360 and PS3"- This is my favriote myth in System Wars...If this myth is true can Sheep tell me which console COD3 did better on?

Hermits-
1."Well my computers Specs are *********"No the stars isnt a cover up for a cuss word or anything...its just saying that no one understands these specs exept Hermits...

poopinloop32
I agree 100% with the exception of the 360 graphics bit....yes Lemmings can overhype the 360 graphics a bit, and there wont be a HUGE difference between 360/ps3 graphics, but the GPU in the 360 is much better than the GPU in the ps3....360 graphics will look slightly better...thats just the way things are.
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3."The Wiimote will make gameplay better than the 360 and PS3"- This is my favriote myth in System Wars...If this myth is true can Sheep tell me which console COD3 did better on?

poopinloop32

Can you tell me which console madden 07 did better on?

I'm amazen that a but ugly online-less version of CoD3 still scored and A.
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#62 -GeordiLaForge-
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But then they wouldn't be fanboys anymore
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#63 poopinloop32
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[QUOTE="poopinloop32"]


3."The Wiimote will make gameplay better than the 360 and PS3"- This is my favriote myth in System Wars...If this myth is true can Sheep tell me which console COD3 did better on?

goblaa

Can you tell me which console madden 07 did better on?

I'm amazen that a but ugly online-less version of CoD3 still scored and A.

I meant that a multiplat game that is released on the Wii doesnt have automatically better gameplay
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[QUOTE="goblaa"][QUOTE="poopinloop32"]


3."The Wiimote will make gameplay better than the 360 and PS3"- This is my favriote myth in System Wars...If this myth is true can Sheep tell me which console COD3 did better on?

poopinloop32

Can you tell me which console madden 07 did better on?

I'm amazen that a but ugly online-less version of CoD3 still scored and A.

I meant that a multiplat game that is released on the Wii doesnt have automatically better gameplay


I agree, but CoD3 was a bad example. If you read the wii review of CoD3 you will notice that it has worse sound, graphics, and multi-player than the 360/PS3 version. The only reason it still scored an A is because of the superior controls....the wiimote.
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#65 glitchgeeman
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I agree with all of that except your thing on 3rd parties. I personally think 1st party games are far more important since they're what define a console. The N64 was defined by Mario 64 and OoT, the GC was defined by SSBM, Pikmin, Zelda TP, etc. I can't really say the same for the other two consoles since they're not known for their great 1st party games, but as for Nintendo, they really know how to make a great game.
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#66 Goten_king
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Umm erm.. i hate to do this, but IMO 3rd party is NOT more important than 1st party on Nintendo Consoles. If it was only 3rd party, there would be no point in having a nintendo product. Thier games are what sell thier systems, and thats what you buy them for. 1st party games are more important than 3rd party. But to be a truly successful system, yes they need to have balance, but to say an EA 3rd party game is more important than the next metroid or mario, well thast just stupid. Everything else seems ok to me. tidbit.. Madden Wii got the highest score of the 3 ;)
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Read my siggy link. I tried it too.
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Cows-
1."Who needs rumble"-This is pure hypcritsy as rumble was a big talk last gen and everyone liked it..but now that the PS3 doesnt have it its all of a sudden useless?

2."This game will be the Halo killa"-Everytime I hear this line I laugh...Cows say that Halo is overrated but they hype every FPS to be the Halo killer? Thier is a reason why the PS3 has the most flops

3."Graphics mean everything"- As we all know the PS2 had the worst graphics last gen, but this gen the Cows are hyping the PS3 becasue of its graphics? Graphics do matter but not to the point where you cant play a game if it has bad graphics

poopinloop32

1.  I never liked rumble.  NEVER.  Honest to God I hated it.

2.  Halo is not that great, so therefore I don't hype games to be a Halo killer.

3.  I don't mind graphics.

Good read though.

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#70 liljon546
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I agree with everything except the statement about the Wiimote. Madden scored better on the Wii than on the 360, and PS3, so not all multiplat games are best on just the PS360,

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#71 poopinloop32
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I agree with everything except the statement about the Wiimote. Madden scored better on the Wii than on the 360, and PS3, so not all multiplat games are best on just the PS360,

liljon546
I just meant to point out just because a game is multiplat it wont have better gameplay becasue of the wiimote
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Lemmings-
1."The 360 graphics kill the PS3s graphics"-This is a more comman saying as cow bashing has been popular the past few months. Sure the 360 looks better than the PS3 now(PS3s only been out for 3 months) but I think this summer this is all going to change with titles Hevenly Sword and GT5

2."The PS3s online will never come close to the 360"-So far this has been true but I think Sony could get it together..they made a huge improvment on online this gen

3."Console Exclusive"-This is the worst thing the Lemmings have said so far..Since when is the PC dead? Lemmings must face the fact that thier are a lot of key game coming for the 360 that are also on the PC

Cows-
1."Who needs rumble"-This is pure hypcritsy as rumble was a big talk last gen and everyone liked it..but now that the PS3 doesnt have it its all of a sudden useless?

2."This game will be the Halo killa"-Everytime I hear this line I laugh...Cows say that Halo is overrated but they hype every FPS to be the Halo killer? Thier is a reason why the PS3 has the most flops

3."Graphics mean everything"- As we all know the PS2 had the worst graphics last gen, but this gen the Cows are hyping the PS3 becasue of its graphics? Graphics do matter but not to the point where you cant play a game if it has bad graphics

Sheep-
1."Who needs Multiplatform?We got First Party"-This one is very comman and might be a little denial. Every time I say to Sheep that they will miss out on games like BioShock and Assasins Creed they revert back to saying Zelda or Metriod or Mario. Sheep must learn that Third Party is more important than First Party

2."The Wiis Graphics are great"-Compared to what?The PS2? The only way you can see the Wiis graphics as great is if you never played the 360 or PS3..*waits for Sheep to show a picture of SMG*..and another thing...The Wii does not have a outstanding third party graphical game...where as the PS3 and 360 got them on luanch

3."The Wiimote will make gameplay better than the 360 and PS3"- This is my favriote myth in System Wars...If this myth is true can Sheep tell me which console COD3 did better on?

Hermits-
1."Well my computers Specs are *********"No the stars isnt a cover up for a cuss word or anything...its just saying that no one understands these specs exept Hermits...

poopinloop32

I agree with everyhting eccept for the fact that PSN will catch up to XBL. I think PSN will continue to have patched in updates but the entire thing will continue to feel disjointed... why? Because it's free. XBL is always getting better and is VERY well planned and executed, whereas all of the reviews (even gamespot) say that PSN feels "tacked on". I'm sorry, but M$ has a huge head start with XBL and it will most likely always feel more "polished" anduser-friendly that XBL. Whether that's worth $6 a month... well that's up to you.

Also, I'm not trying to argue, but I think you're really jumping the gun on PS3 games catching up graphically to the 360 in less than a year. Games like FFXIII and GT5 and MGS4 will NOT be out until 2008/2009. And when that time comes, why do people forget that 360 graphics are ALSO getting better? duh... when 2nd gen games are coming out on the PS3, the 360 will have 3rd gen games coming out. Look at the leap from COD2 to GOW to Mass Effect... come on. the progression in programming tricks and better engines isn't going to stop with the 360... just like it wont stop with the PS3.

Other than that though, right on, I agree with you.... but I'm still considering buying a PS3 in a couple of years, granted there's a price drop and FFXIII is out :-)

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#73 poopinloop32
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edited the major problems