33% chance of RROD? Who came up with these statistics?

It has a "design flaw".. So the failure rate can be upward of 100%.... Just be lucky that people are only saying it is 33%.

If it was less than 10%, MS would have said it... So I am sure it is a lot more than that... which nobody would say the true.

GameRogue

I certainly can't believe the failure rate to be over 20%.
Even every fifth 360 would be very high and almost certainly court-material.

I think that the RROD could be something that has to do with the fabrication of the console. Thus enitre batches of the console might be defective in some way. As shops get an amount of consoles from this batch several of the willl brake down. Giving rise to the chance of having one console breaking on you, and the replacement breaking as well.

As for numbers in the range of "I'm on my 8th xbox right now".
If so many crash, then it might be something else that the console that is wrong, perhaps your way of handling it?


Just for a note, a failure rate of 50% would be illegal and MS would already have been forced to take the 360 of the market unless it had been fixed. haols

I belive the 33% chance of a 360 red ringing on you.

I have only one friend with a 360 that has stayed perfect everyone else has craped out on them.

33% was randomly made up
16% was from a sample of 1000 360s
66% was from a sample of 4000 360s

Take your pick. I don't believe any of them, I just know it's high. But mine hasn't got the RRoD so i'm ok

f50p90

[QUOTE="haols"]I certainly can't believe the failure rate to be over 20%.
Even every fifth 360 would be very high and almost certainly court-material.

I think that the RROD could be something that has to do with the fabrication of the console. Thus enitre batches of the console might be defective in some way. As shops get an amount of consoles from this batch several of the willl brake down. Giving rise to the chance of having one console breaking on you, and the replacement breaking as well.

As for numbers in the range of "I'm on my 8th xbox right now".
If so many crash, then it might be something else that the console that is wrong, perhaps your way of handling it?


Just for a note, a failure rate of 50% would be illegal and MS would already have been forced to take the 360 of the market unless it had been fixed. loftus42

I don't think there's any federal laws specifying a maximum failure rate. Companies have recalls because they chose to because too many consumers get pissed off and they'd like to save face. Recalls also occur because of fear of lawsuits if a product is burning down houses or something like that.

There are certainly products out there with high failure rates. I know consumer reports lists the repair rate of DLP HDTVs as 18%. As far as I know, so far there have been no huge studies done on the failure rates but it does appear to be rather significant.

I don't know if the number is 33%, but at this point, I don't think you can really count the possibility out. It may be 16%. Who knows? I think at this point, it's hard to say and that's not necissarily a good thing if you're a shopper looking for a new console, especially with so many reports out there about the RROD problem. With so many reports of problems, you'd think Microsoft would put out something about it. You know, a statement about the failure rate to convince consumers that the gamble isn't that big. On the other hand, given the failure rate numbers they gave not long after the Xbox 360's launch of 3-5%, I don't know that they wouldn't fudge the numbers.

this is starting to get lame i got 3 red rings cuz i picked it up and it shook a little bit...i put it still for a min and it worked fine its just something that's made to secure it from breaking...

and for those that had it break so many times it probably not the xbox or Microsoft's fault really... you should be a bit more careful and find a good spot for placing it, anything is gonna overheat if u place it in a place with all 4 ends closed.

From my experience none of the people I've know had a xbox break on them... it could be that the problem been fixed after about a year from when it came out but it could be luck i guess

this is starting to get lame i got 3 red rings cuz i picked it up and it shook a little bit...i put it still for a min and it worked fine its just something that's made to secure it from breaking...

and for those that had it break so many times it probably not the xbox or Microsoft's fault really... you should be a bit more careful and find a good spot for placing it, anything is gonna overheat if u place it in a place with all 4 ends closed.

From my experience none of the people I've know had a xbox break on them... it could be that the problem been fixed after about a year from when it came out but it could be luck i guess

leonjuretic

If it was one guy having the problem, or a few guys having the problem, I'd say yea probably just not using it right. Problem is, that doesn't seem to be the case. With as many RRoD cases as there are, I have a hard time believing that all of them are just cases of people not using their console right.

I think it's more like a 100% chance but whatever.-Renegade

And yet here I am, still on my first.

[QUOTE="gatorteen"][QUOTE="DontBeHatin1983"]

i think every x360 on the market will get the RROD sooner or later. 5 out of 5 people that i work with got the rrod once and 3 of the are on their 3rd and 1 of them on their 2nd. 4 of my Friends are on their 2nd and 2 of them did have any problems yet.

i really wish i made this up but face it x360 fanboys the x360 sucks

xsubtownerx

His post wasnt too crazy, all of the console out right now are considered defective.

You're kidding right? I know (plus me) 4 people with 360's. Not a single prob from either of us. Like not even a scratch on a disk. Nothing. Zip. So no, I don't think people should listen and believe everything they read here on SW. Especially a place that is dominated by PS3 fanboys. And yes I know the RROD is a prob, mostly with launch 360's, but it so isn't as bad as people make it out to be here on SW. "ME ON 7TH RROD 360!!!111". Come on..

Ok you are not getting what I am saying. The melting of the mainboard is a problem that happens over time. All of the 360's are experiencing the same issue. So sooner or later,weather it be 3 years or 15 years, all of the 360, out right now, will experience the RROD.

Everybody i know who has a 360 has had RROD,, its a general consensus on these forums that every 360 had RROD (more than once),,, so why are the numbers at 33%? was this a statistic from M$ themself? Its gotta be at least 65% (and 99.9% for people who are even casual gamers).

So, where does this statistics come from?

signore

Here's the thing, the survey was done on returns to retail stores, ie. Out of a certain number of consumers, how many returned to retail stores. This omits the number of people who returned their consoles direct to Microsoft. The Survey was also done for under a year, the survey was also done for consoles returned between 6 to 10 months later. So this survey actually omits a vast majority of broken consoles since it exclusively monitors the RROD problem, excludes those who returned their console direct to MS and only includes those that RRODed between 6 and ten months later. Of course, even then it acheived a 16% failure rate, so conducting a fuller survey was not needed since MS had, by then, held their hands up and admitted they made mistakes.

Any internet survey, or using what people say in fourms is always dicey.

I have had a Pro since launch I played the crap out of for 18 months then I bought an Elite and moved the Pro into the bedroom and still played it a decent amount.

The Pro RRODed after just over 30 months? and the Elite is still going strong.

Perhaps I am lucky, or perhaps some folks are not on the 100th 360.

it mite not be that high but i love the 360 fans saying I now 4 guys with a 360 nit one of them has had one. like there only 10 360 sold in the world. if you now even 10 people that has not have had a rrod doesn't mean the other 18 million users don't.

i seen a guy on a web site ign i beleived had the story that the guy was on his 23 or so 360 and yes he had proof of it. showing the micrsoft sent in statemen sheet.

yes some of the guys that says on there 8th one or so are telling the truth. (some of them not all)

Well i believe M$ released those statistics. However your right it is 67%, done by a survey on one fourm (so its not entirely accurate, but probablly more accurate than what Microsoft released) Souced below. Now i know the survey only covered a total of 3500 votes but that is how statistics are taken. Its not like that forum has an exceptionally high amount of RRoD compared to everywhere else. That would be a quite hard to make it that much higher than what M$ released. So what im saying is what M$ released as 33% cannot be very accurate (they have the motive to release a lower statistic so theire sales are too damanged) where as this forum had no motive, just trying to figure out what the percentage is, thus their number should be a little closer (maybe not 67% high but close)

Source: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175137

Well i believe M$ released those statistics. However your right it is 67%, done by a survey on one fourm (so its not entirely accurate, but probablly more accurate than what Microsoft released) Souced below. Now i know the survey only covered a total of 3500 votes but that is how statistics are taken. Its not like that forum has an exceptionally high amount of RRoD compared to everywhere else. That would be a quite hard to make it that much higher than what M$ released. So what im saying is what M$ released as 33% cannot be very accurate (they have the motive to release a lower statistic so theire sales are too damanged) where as this forum had no motive, just trying to figure out what the percentage is, thus their number should be a little closer (maybe not 67% high but close)

Source: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175137

beinss

1) people responding to this survey also have no reason for telling the truth. Not that some of them would have a reason to lie. the problem is, that there is no way of telling that they are telling the truth.

2) Microsoft has admitted there is a problem, are taking care of it, and are upgrading the hardware. With the 65nm Processor, and soon to be released 65nm graphics chip, the power requirements are going down. thus the heat will drop also.

3) I do believe that it is higher then they say, the hardware is getting better, so the instances of the dreaded rrod will drop.

4) there is a possibility that all the launch consoles will fail, but the possibility of all of the new consoles will fail, is very low. Once the third generation of the consoles get released, that possibility will go down even farther.

These things are just common sense, anyone saying different are just trying to push this as far as they can. What their reasons are for this, i don't know. But sooner or later this rrod thing will be in the past, Microsoft will have alot of work to do to get their fan-base back, but i think they will. I also think they will be stronger for it. Remember they just got into the console business, I wonder how long it took Sony to get to the top of the t.v., and the stereo businesses.