343 managed to make an even more forgettable campaign than Halo 4.

@Salt_The_Fries: It is indeed the highest at 84/100 for this year, there is no denying.

Perhaps that's a testament to the state of this generation (sad?), or maybe just this year, in that the generation/year wasn't as amazing as many expected.

I'm really looking forward to the high quality surprise games this gen no one sees coming. Games releasing from studios no one expects much from since these giant, longtime franchises aren't living up to the expectations many place on them.

The story was good in Halo 4 but the level design was unforgivable. The amount of copy/paste that campaign had was really annoying.

Bungie aren't any better. ODST, Reach and Destiny suck.

Halo 3 was the last stand out good Halo game and that was a long time ago. I can't even bring myself to push on in Reach. I didn't even get started with Halo 4 and I'm not planning on getting Halo 5 any time soon either.

Halo hasn't been good for a long time, but to be honest it's an overrated series. Halo CE is WAY overrated. It's just Halo 2 and 3 which were good.

343 hasn't proved themselves a great developer, but I think Bungie are very overrated as well.

Halo 5 is awesome with a spectacular Sci Fi story and genre defining multiplayer, best FPS released this gen

I loved the story of Halo 4, and Halo 5. Maybe you have a problem with your memory?

From what I've played I don't think it's that bad. Way better than the love story that was Halo 4.

But the fact that I didn't feel inclined to finish it within the first week might speak volumes.

I dunno, FPS campaigns. Why can't anybody get them right in consistency?

Reach and ODST are great Halo campaigns. I reckon both are better than Halo 3, save the scarab set pieces.

But anyone who says Halo 2 is good has the wrong opinion dude. I remember playing it at 14 and forcing myself to say it was as good as the first one. I needed to believe that because I had to argue against the HL2 and Doom 3 fanboys.

I remember watching the Halo 2 behind the scenes doco on that Collector's Edition tin. Read between the lines, they pretty much outlined that they fucked their way up to release, with the multiplayer being the only saving grace. That's why when it came to Halo 3 they went on a massive "Halo 2 was actually really shit" pre-release strategy.

Also, Destiny got juiced with the Taken King. It's probably one of the better games of the year now.

And Halos continue to make cows BH all day and night to where it's all they mooo about, dat insecurity. :P

>Tendency to make a game with not a lot of mechanics to it: ergo less to it, ergo by the halfway point you've seen everything the game has to offer
>video games in general aren't consistent, a large majority of them tend to start way stronger than they finish, especially the good ones
>It's a genre that's inherently dumb, that comes out smarter than it really is in the multiplayer space.

All the genres are that way on some level. Beat-em ups have games like Bayonetta and Ninja Gaiden, but Onimusha wasn't exactly special. Good, but not special. Streets of Rage is terrific, some of the other stuff? Come on.

Digital Illusions should go back to making pinball games, I loved those on the Amiga. The generic FPS games they make now are just shit.

We get it. You don't like Halo 5.

Population of halo 5 is pretty good,but not amazing from what I have been hearing.It seems to be holding a lot better than expected especially during peak hours and gets into the top 5 or 6 usually. .It's definitely going to stay alive longer than halo 4 did as long as 343i provides consistent updates to the game.

This is a common problem in the later gen Halo games. Both Halo 2 and Halo 4 looked exceptional for the hardware they came out on but sacrificed the larger level design and game spaces Halo 1 and Halo 3 featured as a result. I imagine we'll see the same thing again with Halo 6.

I did finish ODST, but it was lazy. They didn't change any of the mechanics, just took the rechargeable shield away. Problem is the whole game revolves around that.

Reach just got boring.

Halo CE was good at the release but it doesn't hold up with its tedious ai and the constant repetition of its corridors to make levels seem way longer.

Halo 2 had a boring story, but the gameplay was good.

Halo 3 was the peak, it was so much fun.

At this point, I don't even know... Maybe they need to either reboot the series or do a Mass Effect Andromeda where it's a different story in the same universe but far the **** away from the MC thing.

But then we have to contend with 343i writing. I am hoping it would get better if they aren't handcuffed to following in the original trilogy's footsteps.

The extended edition of LotR:RotK is longer than the Halo 5 campaign. It's sad.

While I thought the game played great and enjoyed the action, the story was nothing I cared about. the story did nothing for me and I didn't even follow it.

It'll sell better on NPD. Now when you count the bundles and worldwide sales, hell no.

I enjoyed the hell out of it. I think the campaign was very entertaining albeit short. I enjoyed the story as well and most importantly had fun. So many games I've played that sold great or scored high that I haven't enjoyed playing from start to finish which I wasn't the case for H5. That's all that matters to me.

All of the halo campaigns have been very poor in terms of plot and level design, not sure what you were expecting.

And when was the last time an FPS had a good campaign anyway, Episode 2?

Eh, I suppose I don't judge the game's boringness by their stories. In that regard Reach had consistently great set pieces that kept it varied than the other campaigns e.g suicide grunts sequence with just a pistol, boarding a Covenant ship in low grav, dog fighting, night sniping level. Oh, and the Elites return to their former glory from the Halo CE days. None of that brute sponge damage crap.

I don't understand Halo 2 being good because it obviously felt rushed. Maybe it was nostalgia on part of people in 2004 but even now with the MCC there's no excuse to realise it's the weak link in the entire Halo series. The encounters are half baked and it feels way more linear than the rest of the Halo's because of the aforementioned production snafus. It's pretty much the beginning of the the cliche "Halo has good multiplayer and lame singleplayer".

Halo 3 is what Halo 2 was suppose to be. It feels incredibly refined and immensely playable.

In the scheme of things though Bungie has been creatively playing it too safe. They're more interested in online infrastructure, where they've always been ahead of the curve. Expect most AAA titles to go the way of Destiny within the next few years.

Wolfenstein: The New Order/The Old Blood. So 2014 or 2015 if you will.

Before that some people liked Metro: Last Light. It's refreshing I suppose. And Bioshock: Infinite.

Then there's @jg4xchamp who is the sole cheerleader for The Darkness 2.

So there's a drought no doubt, but there has been a few worthy of people's time here and there. Does Dishonored count? Or Deus Ex: Human Rev?

If you guys think Halo 5's campaign is bad, go play Black Ops 3. OMG, that game is fuckin terrible. Worst campaign in a COD game and such a shame because it is the studio that made the original Black Ops which was very good. So, they get a 3 year dev cycle now and they make the worst game in the series. That is some fucked up shit.

"@frank_castle:

And I'm hoping that Sony moves on from stuff like God of War and Uncharted to invest in some new IP's as well. Tired of playing the same shit over and over with a new coat of paint slapped on it."

You do realise Sony has had new IPs EVERY year?

I remember that when I said it was realistic that Halo 5 would get a mid 80s metacritic score, nyadc was acting like I was off the mark, predicting mid 90s lol. What a blind cheerleader.

He's a complete idiot but I was kind of cheerleading Halo 5 myself because I really love the games and expected big things of Halo 5. He probably thinks I'm slagging off Halo 5 because I'm a 'cow' or something equally juvenile but the reason I was so pissed off with it is I am a huge Halo fan but I'm not stupid. If the campaign sucks I'm not going to lie about it.

Nothing wrong with hying Halo 5 and hoping it would be amazing (I love the games too). That being said, I'm positive that nyadc was just hyping it because it's a big Xbox exclusive. Dude is more of a Microsoft cheerleader than a Halo cheerleader.

You've got to be fucking kidding me... Have you seen all the Halo stuff I own...

If Halo 5 was on PS4 he'd write a 10 page essay on here about how much it sucks.

I don't care about your stuff (so don't bother posting it). You've proven yourself to be a laughable MS shill.

Pretty much.

Oh shut up, you just said something stupid which I could contradict entirely and bury but you don't want to see it...

Cancer...

You can post pictures of all your stupid shit if you want to (can't promise that I'll actually give a shit tho). What I am telling you is that you've shilled so hard for MS that you're going to have a tough time convincing me that you're not a MS fan above all else.

I thought it was pretty good.. You can tell it was mainly a set up for the bigger events going down in the next installment.
Theres a bunch of stuff they potentially set up in Halo 5:

Return of the Flood, return of Mendicant Bias, return of the evil Didact.

The only thing I think they kinda glossed over too casually was getting Halsey back and throwing Jul Mdama out the airlock. They didnt even talk about the Janus Key which I think was done on purpose.

If you cannot explain your video game story in your video game, you have failed. Period. End of story.

Expanded universes are nice and all, but not everyone is going to read the books, buy the comics, or watch the TV shows. You need to be able to explain your story in-game so that the people who are not buying all of that supplementary material can follow along. 343 got knocked for the same shit in Halo 4 and they failed to learn. They deserve to be criticized.

What? I mean it's fine, they certainly could have done a shittier job for a follow up to The Darkness, but of the games from that year, wouldn't even be a game I cheerlead, or gas up as under noticed. That's Binary Domain if anything.

And yeah Last Light for making good on poor man's STALKER (Metro) and Wolfenstein The New Order (not its expansion) were good. Last Light inherently more interesting and tense if you can get it on ranger difficulty, Wolfenstein more raw fun, because dual wielding automatic shotguns.

^ It really is that simple. Hell, it's not like it's even a bad thing that people's complaint is that there needed to be MORE of the game.

I know that I'm probably the last person that anyone in this thread wants to hear say this, but here it is.. When there is an honest gripe about plot holes in a terribly short game, then mistakes were made and you sure as eff can't point at the budget as the problem here.

The worst of the worst of fanboys are the ones that scream and shout about how okay everything is rather than accepting the fact there is a problem. Won't some of you realize that you're doing a disservice to the game(s) you claim to love so much by continually setting the bar lower and lower after each game and running off the very fans of the series you really want to keep with your nonsense?

Exactly. nydac's apologizing knows no bounds.

@Shewgenja: or... it could be the opposite and the people complaining about it maybe arent really the big fans that they say/think they are?

Theres a bunch of people here complaining about having to read stuff outside of the game to understand this stuff which I kinda call BS. Part of the reason Halo is so popular is because of the extended lore and I think 343 actually embracing the lore and making a lot of the stuff canon in the game helps to improve the overall game.

I think they are trying to go deeper than Chief saves the galaxy again and thats a good thing. Even retiring Chief at this point is probably long overdue.

Embracing the lore is fine if it they competently do it within the game's story. But I am not reading a shitty video game novel just to be able to understand what's going on.

I think the declining sales and metacritic scores let the dust settle on such questions before this thread even began.

Exactly, I know the lore, do you see me complaining? **** no, because I know how this all fits into the game. What I see happening is a bunch of false prophets and devil's advocates bashing something for "holes in the plot" that they should already know.

This is the fifth numbered game, if you don't know who these people are and what's going on, and you've invested enough into this franchise to make it to the fifth game then what in the hell are you doing... This to me sounds like a bunch of people who only watched Return of the Jedi and are confused as to what's going on because they didn't see the first two movies, it seems like people who are leading on that they're invested in this franchise and bitching when they're really not.

Hmm I had no problem figuring out the story of Halo 5 (or even Halo 4). Hell it explains itself as you play. But then again this is just another PS fanboy trashing Halo thread (he /she probably never finished the campaign in the first place). What exactly should I expect?

Hell Bloodborne has virtually no story, yet many people consider it a great game. Somehow I doubt the TC will create a thread complaining about BB's story though.

Also Halo is hardly the biggest franchise in gaming history.