360 actually has a great 09.

I personally dont see the problem here. 360 has a fine upcoming 09. And MS likes to be in the habit of announcing games within the year of release now.

Stoked - A exclusive snowboarding game. Probably a AE, but hey, thats still a A.

Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad - still an exclusive lol

Race Pro - Made from the Race sim pros that make GTR for PC.

Halo Wars - This will be huge, despite its criticism. Will sell millions guaranteed and be at least AA, after all C&C 3 got almost a 9.

Halo 3: ODST - Even for an expansion....this will be HUGE and everybody know it.

Ninety Nine Nights 2 - Could be an A. Devs can always improve.

Star Ocean - The 360s White Knight.

Ninja Blade - A ninja gaiden clone, but since when is that a bad thing?

Unconfirmed

Forza 3

E3 announcements - Probably another Scene It, Lips 2.

Cry On - the next Mistwalker jrpg

Multiplats only found on the Xbox 360 console (notice how I didnt say "exclusive")

Mass Effect 2

Alan Wake

Splinter Cell: Conviction

Of course they do have a good 2009. There is just a lot of PS3 fans on here trying their best to downplay anything the360 does. rybe1025

which is why i shed light on their minds.

Jesus.......the PS3 has no chance next year, look at that lineup.Floppy_Jim

didnt necessarily say that.

then again, only Infamous, White Knight, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, and another Rachet are confirmed for 09.

GOW 3, GT5, FF13, MAG, and god knows what else is only wishful thinking. they arent dated yet and could very well slip intom 2010.

Only like 3 or 4 of those games interest me.wado-karate

there is so much genres and variety here that its natural to like a few.

others will like different games and not like the ones u picked.

Thats the beauty of a well-rounded lineup.

Im personally interested in halo wars, Halo ODST, Mass Effect 2. Doesnt mean the rest is trash, far from it.

Killzone 2 will curb .... err .... umm

[QUOTE="wado-karate"]Only like 3 or 4 of those games interest me.Lem_President

there is so much genres and variety here that its natural to like a few.

others will like different games and not like the ones u picked.

Thats the beauty of a well-rounded lineup.

Im personally interested in halo wars, Halo ODST, Mass Effect 2. Doesnt mean the rest is trash, far from it.

The only thing that is missing from this thread is DLC and the possibility of Kameo 2 and PDZ2.

I personally dont see the problem here. 360 has a fine upcoming 09. And MS likes to be in the habit of announcing games within the year of release now.

Stoked - A exclusive snowboarding game. Probably a AE, but hey, thats still a A.- Havnt seen anything yet.

Race Pro - Made from the Race sim pros that make GTR for PC.- Dont like racing games

Halo Wars - This will be huge, despite its criticism. Will sell millions guaranteed and be at least AA, after all C&C 3 got almost a 9.Dont like halo as an RTS

Halo 3: ODST - Even for an expansion....this will be HUGE and everybody know it.Am excited for

Ninety Nine Nights 2 - Could be an A. Devs can always improve.- First one was horrible, dont see why a dynasty warriors knock off sequel would be any better

Star Ocean - The 360s White Knight.- am actually pretty excited for this

Ninja Blade - A ninja gaiden clone, but since when is that a bad thing?- The fact that there's only ONE ninja gaiden

Unconfirmed

Forza 3- Look at Race pro

E3 announcements - Probably another Scene It, Lips 2.- Who cares about lips and scene it here?

Cry On - the next Mistwalker jrpg- They did a good job with LO so i'll probably check this up sooner or later

Multiplats only found on the Xbox 360 console (notice how I didnt say "exclusive")

Mass Effect 2

Alan Wake- Is going to PC

Splinter Cell: Conviction

Lem_President

gotta take all those out, if their multiplats, you cant use them in a better lineup arguement

Killzone 2 will curb .... err .... umm

Nike_Air

Halo: ODST can outsell and outperform KZ2 easily with the brand name alone. Gameplay wise, well the reviews will tell us how wide the gap is. But its Bungie, and they have a great track record, so im not worried.

As for "A". Killzone 2 is probably a AA-AAA. Thats only 2-3 "A". The 360 list can generate its own "A" too.

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Killzone 2 will curb .... err .... umm

Lem_President

Halo: ODST can outsell and outperform KZ2 easily with the brand name alone. Gameplay wise, well the reviews will tell us how wide the gap is. But its Bungie, and they have a great track record, so im not worried.

As for "A". Killzone 2 is probably a AA-AAA. Thats only 2-3 "A". The 360 list can generate its own "A" too.

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Killzone 2 will curb .... err .... umm

Lem_President

Halo: ODST can outsell and outperform KZ2 easily with the brand name alone. Gameplay wise, well the reviews will tell us how wide the gap is. But its Bungie, and they have a great track record, so im not worried.

As for "A". Killzone 2 is probably a AA-AAA. Thats only 2-3 "A". The 360 list can generate its own "A" too.

[QUOTE="Lem_President"]

I personally dont see the problem here. 360 has a fine upcoming 09. And MS likes to be in the habit of announcing games within the year of release now.

Stoked - A exclusive snowboarding game. Probably a AE, but hey, thats still a A.

Race Pro - Made from the Race sim pros that make GTR for PC.

Halo Wars - This will be huge, despite its criticism. Will sell millions guaranteed and be at least AA, after all C&C 3 got almost a 9.

Halo 3: ODST - Even for an expansion....this will be HUGE and everybody know it.

Ninety Nine Nights 2 - Could be an A. Devs can always improve.

Star Ocean - The 360s White Knight.

Ninja Blade - A ninja gaiden clone, but since when is that a bad thing?

Unconfirmed

Forza 3

E3 announcements - Probably another Scene It, Lips 2.

Cry On - the next Mistwalker jrpg

Multiplats only found on the Xbox 360 console (notice how I didnt say "exclusive")

Mass Effect 2

Alan Wake- Is going to PC

Splinter Cell: Conviction

Animal-Mother

gotta take all those out, if their multiplats, you cant use them in a better lineup arguement

why?

360 gets them.

PS3 doesnt. This isnt rocket science.

To see whos is better, you gotta see ALL VARIABLES, not just one aspect. That includes games one console has that the other doesnt, exclusive or not.

[QUOTE="Lem_President"]

I personally dont see the problem here. 360 has a fine upcoming 09. And MS likes to be in the habit of announcing games within the year of release now.

Stoked - A exclusive snowboarding game. Probably a AE, but hey, thats still a A.

Race Pro - Made from the Race sim pros that make GTR for PC.

Halo Wars - This will be huge, despite its criticism. Will sell millions guaranteed and be at least AA, after all C&C 3 got almost a 9.

Halo 3: ODST - Even for an expansion....this will be HUGE and everybody know it.

Ninety Nine Nights 2 - Could be an A. Devs can always improve.

Star Ocean - The 360s White Knight.

Ninja Blade - A ninja gaiden clone, but since when is that a bad thing?

Unconfirmed

Forza 3

E3 announcements - Probably another Scene It, Lips 2.

Cry On - the next Mistwalker jrpg

Multiplats only found on the Xbox 360 console (notice how I didnt say "exclusive")

Mass Effect 2

Alan Wake- Is going to PC

Splinter Cell: Conviction

Animal-Mother

gotta take all those out, if their multiplats, you cant use them in a better lineup arguement

[QUOTE="Lem_President"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Killzone 2 will curb .... err .... umm

II_Seraphim_II

Halo: ODST can outsell and outperform KZ2 easily with the brand name alone. Gameplay wise, well the reviews will tell us how wide the gap is. But its Bungie, and they have a great track record, so im not worried.

As for "A". Killzone 2 is probably a AA-AAA. Thats only 2-3 "A". The 360 list can generate its own "A" too.

its bungie, there cool.

sales do determine the better game in the consumers eye, which is really the one that counts. If more people decide to spend there hard earned money on the 360 game over the PS3 game, does it not give a victory to the lems and a loss for the cows? yes it does.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Lem_President"]

I personally dont see the problem here. 360 has a fine upcoming 09. And MS likes to be in the habit of announcing games within the year of release now.

Stoked - A exclusive snowboarding game. Probably a AE, but hey, thats still a A.

Race Pro - Made from the Race sim pros that make GTR for PC.

Halo Wars - This will be huge, despite its criticism. Will sell millions guaranteed and be at least AA, after all C&C 3 got almost a 9.

Halo 3: ODST - Even for an expansion....this will be HUGE and everybody know it.

Ninety Nine Nights 2 - Could be an A. Devs can always improve.

Star Ocean - The 360s White Knight.

Ninja Blade - A ninja gaiden clone, but since when is that a bad thing?

Unconfirmed

Forza 3

E3 announcements - Probably another Scene It, Lips 2.

Cry On - the next Mistwalker jrpg

Multiplats only found on the Xbox 360 console (notice how I didnt say "exclusive")

Mass Effect 2

Alan Wake- Is going to PC

Splinter Cell: Conviction

Lem_President

gotta take all those out, if their multiplats, you cant use them in a better lineup arguement

why?

360 gets them.

PS3 doesnt. This isnt rocket science.

To see whos is better, you gotta see ALL VARIABLES, not just one aspect. That includes games one console has that the other doesnt, exclusive or not.

its bungie, there cool.

sales do determine the better game in the consumers eye, which is really the one that counts. If more people decide to spend there hard earned money on the 360 game over the PS3 game, does it not give a victory to the lems and a loss for the cows? yes it does.

Lem_President

Well, im not gonna try to decipher your twisted logic for fear of insanity, but sales only dictate which product is more popular/marketed. Thats why 50cent games sell respectably. All the G-Unit wannabes see 50 cent and think "Oh crap! 50 is the illest rapper! I gotta buy his game!" its got nothing to do with the quality of the game. I mean just look at the sales of WiiFit.... :?

[QUOTE="Lem_President"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

gotta take all those out, if their multiplats, you cant use them in a better lineup arguement

Animal-Mother

why?

360 gets them.

PS3 doesnt. This isnt rocket science.

To see whos is better, you gotta see ALL VARIABLES, not just one aspect. That includes games one console has that the other doesnt, exclusive or not.

everything offcourse. how else do u decide who wins? by comparing only exclusives???? all factors hold weight. that includes downloadable games, and console exclusives, even hardware sales to a degree.

Cows like to downplay 360/PC games because they dont have ties to the PC market like MS does. It simply isnt convienent for them :lol:

[QUOTE="Lem_President"]

its bungie, there cool.

sales do determine the better game in the consumers eye, which is really the one that counts. If more people decide to spend there hard earned money on the 360 game over the PS3 game, does it not give a victory to the lems and a loss for the cows? yes it does.

II_Seraphim_II

Well, im not gonna try to decipher your twisted logic for fear of insanity, but sales only dictate which product is more popular/marketed. Thats why 50cent games sell respectably. All the G-Unit wannabes see 50 cent and think "Oh crap! 50 is the illest rapper! I gotta buy his game!" its got nothing to do with the quality of the game. I mean just look at the sales of WiiFit.... :?

100% correct. But that doesnt mean lemmings cant declare victory when their game is wayyy more accepted and popular then the cow game.

Its sad....but sales only benefit fanboys. If you dont care, then move along, non-fanboy.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Lem_President"]

why?

360 gets them.

PS3 doesnt. This isnt rocket science.

To see whos is better, you gotta see ALL VARIABLES, not just one aspect. That includes games one console has that the other doesnt, exclusive or not.

Lem_President

everything offcourse. how else do u decide who wins? by comparing only exclusives???? all factors hold weight. that includes downloadable games, and console exclusives, even hardware sales to a degree.

Cows like to downplay 360/PC games because they dont have ties to the PC market like MS does. It simply isnt convienent for them :lol:

I personally dont see the problem here. 360 has a fine upcoming 09. And MS likes to be in the habit of announcing games within the year of release now.

Stoked - A exclusive snowboarding game. Probably a AE, but hey, thats still a A.

Race Pro - Made from the Race sim pros that make GTR for PC.

Halo Wars - This will be huge, despite its criticism. Will sell millions guaranteed and be at least AA, after all C&C 3 got almost a 9.

Halo 3: ODST - Even for an expansion....this will be HUGE and everybody know it.

Ninety Nine Nights 2 - Could be an A. Devs can always improve.

Star Ocean - The 360s White Knight.

Ninja Blade - A ninja gaiden clone, but since when is that a bad thing?

Unconfirmed

Forza 3

E3 announcements - Probably another Scene It, Lips 2.

Cry On - the next Mistwalker jrpg

Multiplats only found on the Xbox 360 console (notice how I didnt say "exclusive")

Mass Effect 2

Alan Wake

Splinter Cell: Conviction

Lem_President

Great thread!

I'll probably still be catching-up on all the great games of the past 2yrs. I'm not worried at all about the Xbox360's 2009 line-up. There will be more than enough games for the average gamer.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Lem_President"]

I personally dont see the problem here. 360 has a fine upcoming 09. And MS likes to be in the habit of announcing games within the year of release now.

Stoked - A exclusive snowboarding game. Probably a AE, but hey, thats still a A.

Race Pro - Made from the Race sim pros that make GTR for PC.

Halo Wars - This will be huge, despite its criticism. Will sell millions guaranteed and be at least AA, after all C&C 3 got almost a 9.

Halo 3: ODST - Even for an expansion....this will be HUGE and everybody know it.

Ninety Nine Nights 2 - Could be an A. Devs can always improve.

Star Ocean - The 360s White Knight.

Ninja Blade - A ninja gaiden clone, but since when is that a bad thing?

Unconfirmed

Forza 3

E3 announcements - Probably another Scene It, Lips 2.

Cry On - the next Mistwalker jrpg

Multiplats only found on the Xbox 360 console (notice how I didnt say "exclusive")

Mass Effect 2

Alan Wake- Is going to PC

Splinter Cell: Conviction

Lem_President

gotta take all those out, if their multiplats, you cant use them in a better lineup arguement

why?

360 gets them.

PS3 doesnt. This isnt rocket science.

To see whos is better, you gotta see ALL VARIABLES, not just one aspect. That includes games one console has that the other doesnt, exclusive or not.

You don't know that cows like to hide behind the PC in PS3 vs x360 debates?

Cows have been doing that since the x360 launched

I personally dont see the problem here. 360 has a fine upcoming 09. And MS likes to be in the habit of announcing games within the year of release now.

Stoked - A exclusive snowboarding game. Probably a AE, but hey, thats still a A.

Race Pro - Made from the Race sim pros that make GTR for PC.

Halo Wars - This will be huge, despite its criticism. Will sell millions guaranteed and be at least AA, after all C&C 3 got almost a 9.

Halo 3: ODST - Even for an expansion....this will be HUGE and everybody know it.

Ninety Nine Nights 2 - Could be an A. Devs can always improve.

Star Ocean - The 360s White Knight.

Ninja Blade - A ninja gaiden clone, but since when is that a bad thing?

Unconfirmed

Forza 3

E3 announcements - Probably another Scene It, Lips 2.

Cry On - the next Mistwalker jrpg

Multiplats only found on the Xbox 360 console (notice how I didnt say "exclusive")

Mass Effect 2

Alan Wake

Splinter Cell: Conviction

Lem_President

[QUOTE="Lem_President"]

I personally dont see the problem here. 360 has a fine upcoming 09. And MS likes to be in the habit of announcing games within the year of release now.

Stoked - A exclusive snowboarding game. Probably a AE, but hey, thats still a A.

Race Pro - Made from the Race sim pros that make GTR for PC.

Halo Wars - This will be huge, despite its criticism. Will sell millions guaranteed and be at least AA, after all C&C 3 got almost a 9.

Halo 3: ODST - Even for an expansion....this will be HUGE and everybody know it.

Ninety Nine Nights 2 - Could be an A. Devs can always improve.

Star Ocean - The 360s White Knight.

Ninja Blade - A ninja gaiden clone, but since when is that a bad thing?

Unconfirmed

Forza 3

E3 announcements - Probably another Scene It, Lips 2.

Cry On - the next Mistwalker jrpg

Multiplats only found on the Xbox 360 console (notice how I didnt say "exclusive")

Mass Effect 2

Alan Wake

Splinter Cell: Conviction

Shensolidus

if ur a realist then mayeb ud consider that PS3 09 games might slip into 2010 as GOW3, GT5, Heavy Rain, MAG, FFV13 arent even dated yet.

Hitting their stride? NA and even Europe are favouring 360. In Japan 360 is even competitive with PS3. Im sorry but 360 is just hitting its stride.

X360

Stoked - Exclusive - A-AA

Race Pro - Not sure...maybe multiplat? - AA-AAA

Halo Wars - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Halo 3: ODST - Exclusive - A-AA (Due to it only being 3-5hrs, I dont see it getting AAA)

Ninety Nine Nights 2 - Exclusive - A

Star Ocean - Exclusive - A-AA

Ninja Blade - Exclusive A-AA

Forza 3 - Exclusive AA-AAA

Cry On - Exclusive A-AA

Mass Effect 2 - Multiplat most likely - AA-AAA

Alan Wake - Multiplat - AA-AAA

Splinter Cell: Conviction - Multiplat - AA-AAA

Death Smiles - Exclusive(?) - Not sure about expected score...

FFXIII - Multiplat - AAA (hopefully it comes out 2009)

==================================

PS3

The Agency - Multiplat - A-AA

DC Universe - Multiplat - A-AA

FFXIII - Multiplat - AAA

Splinter Cell: Conviction - Multiplat - AA-AAA

FFXIII Versus - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Killzone 2 - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Heavy Rain - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Uncharted 2 - Exclusive - AA-AAA

God of War 3 - Exclusive - AAA

Grand Turismo 5 - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Infamous - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Twisted Metal Black 2 - Exclusive - AA-AAA (Hopefully coming out 2009?)

L.A. Noire - Exclusive (last we heard) - AA-AAA (coming out 2009?)

Demon Souls - Exclusive(?) - ???

Yakuza 3 - Exclusive - A-AA

White Knight Chronicles - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Ratchet And Clank - Exclusive - A-AAA

New Team Ico Game - Exclusive - AA-AAA

==================================

If you have anything to add, or want me to ammend, write it and I'll update the list.

X360

Stoked - Exclusive - A-AA

Race Pro - Not sure...maybe multiplat? - AA-AAA

Halo Wars - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Halo 3: ODST - Exclusive - A-AA (Due to it only being 3-5hrs, I dont see it getting AAA)

Ninety Nine Nights 2 - Exclusive - A

Star Ocean - Exclusive - A-AA

Ninja Blade - Exclusive A-AA

Forza 3 - Exclusive AA-AAA

Cry On - Exclusive A-AA

Mass Effect 2 - Multiplat most likely - AA-AAA

Alan Wake - Multiplat - AA-AAA

Splinter Cell: Conviction - Multiplat - AA-AAA

Death Smiles - Exclusive(?) - Not sure about expected score...

FFXIII - Multiplat - AAA (hopefully it comes out 2009)

==================================

PS3

The Agency - Multiplat - A-AA

DC Universe - Multiplat - A-AA

FFXIII - Multiplat - AAA

Splinter Cell: Conviction - Multiplat - AA-AAA

FFXIII Versus - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Killzone 2 - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Heavy Rain - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Uncharted 2 - Exclusive - AA-AAA

God of War 3 - Exclusive - AAA

Grand Turismo 5 - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Infamous - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Twisted Metal Black 2 - Exclusive - AA-AAA (Hopefully coming out 2009?)

L.A. Noire - Exclusive (last we heard) - AA-AAA (coming out 2009?)

Demon Souls - Exclusive(?) - ???

Yakuza 3 - Exclusive - AA-AAA

White Knight Chronicles - Exclusive - AA-AAA

New Insomniac Game - Exclusive - AA-AAA (Don't know what It's called but Insomniac releases a game each year around Oct/Nov)

New Team Ico Game - Exclusive - AA-AAA

==================================

If you have anything to add, or want me to ammend, write it and I'll update the list.

II_Seraphim_II

a ton fo thsoe games may very well slip into 2010. FFV13, GT5, GOW 3, Heavy Rain, MAG, Team ICo, DC universe was confirmed for early 2010 and Splinter cell is 360/PC.

a ton fo thsoe games may very well slip into 2010. FFV13, GT5, GOW 3, Heavy Rain, MAG, Team ICo, DC universe was confirmed for early 2010 and Splinter cell is 360/PC.

Lem_President

seeing as how the last Splinter Cell came to PS3, im just writing it down, unless you have a link that says so then ill gladly change it. And some of the X360 games may slip too, so until we have definitive proof, i'll leave them as they stand.

X360

Stoked - Exclusive - A-AA

Race Pro - Not sure...maybe multiplat? - AA-AAA

Halo Wars - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Halo 3: ODST - Exclusive - A-AA (Due to it only being 3-5hrs, I dont see it getting AAA)

Ninety Nine Nights 2 - Exclusive - A

Star Ocean - Exclusive - A-AA

Ninja Blade - Exclusive A-AA

Forza 3 - Exclusive AA-AAA

Cry On - Exclusive A-AA

Mass Effect 2 - Multiplat most likely - AA-AAA

Alan Wake - Multiplat - AA-AAA

Splinter Cell: Conviction - Multiplat - AA-AAA

Death Smiles - Exclusive(?) - Not sure about expected score...

FFXIII - Multiplat - AAA (hopefully it comes out 2009)

==================================

PS3

The Agency - Multiplat - A-AA

DC Universe - Multiplat - A-AA

FFXIII - Multiplat - AAA

Splinter Cell: Conviction - Multiplat - AA-AAA

FFXIII Versus - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Killzone 2 - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Heavy Rain - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Uncharted 2 - Exclusive - AA-AAA

God of War 3 - Exclusive - AAA

Grand Turismo 5 - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Infamous - Exclusive - AA-AAA

Twisted Metal Black 2 - Exclusive - AA-AAA (Hopefully coming out 2009?)

L.A. Noire - Exclusive (last we heard) - AA-AAA (coming out 2009?)

Demon Souls - Exclusive(?) - ???

Yakuza 3 - Exclusive - AA-AAA

White Knight Chronicles - Exclusive - AA-AAA

New Insomniac Game - Exclusive - AA-AAA (Don't know what It's called but Insomniac releases a game each year around Oct/Nov)

New Team Ico Game - Exclusive - AA-AAA

==================================

If you have anything to add, or want me to ammend, write it and I'll update the list.

[QUOTE="Lem_President"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

gotta take all those out, if their multiplats, you cant use them in a better lineup arguement

LosDaddie

why?

360 gets them.

PS3 doesnt. This isnt rocket science.

To see whos is better, you gotta see ALL VARIABLES, not just one aspect. That includes games one console has that the other doesnt, exclusive or not.

You don't know that cows like to hide behind the PC in PS3 vs x360 debates?

Cows have been doing that since the x360 launched

Has Mass Effect 2 been confirmed for 09?GabeBlack

Has Mass Effect 2 been confirmed for 09?GabeBlack

its no more confirmed then GT5, GOW3, Heavy Rain, MAG, DC Universe, and FFV13.

yet cows list them for 09 anyway.

[QUOTE="GabeBlack"]Has Mass Effect 2 been confirmed for 09?Lem_President

its no more confirmed then GT5, GOW3, Heavy Rain, MAG, DC Universe, and FFV13.

yet cows list them for 09 anyway.

[QUOTE="Lem_President"]

[QUOTE="GabeBlack"]Has Mass Effect 2 been confirmed for 09?Animal-Mother

its no more confirmed then GT5, GOW3, Heavy Rain, MAG, DC Universe, and FFV13.

yet cows list them for 09 anyway.

lol they were listed in this very thread.

Has Mass Effect 2 been confirmed for 09?GabeBlack

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Lem_President"]

its no more confirmed then GT5, GOW3, Heavy Rain, MAG, DC Universe, and FFV13.

yet cows list them for 09 anyway.

Lem_President

lol they were listed in this very thread.

Out of curiosity, have Alan Wake, Mass Effect 2, Ninety Nine Nights II, and Cry On been given 09 release dates? I'm actually interested in the latter 3, but have heard no news on ME2, the only thing I know about NNNII is that it was announced at TGS, and well, I haven't heard anything about Cry On in ages. Hoping they arrive in 09, though I'm pessimistic that I won't see them until early 2010, probably joining GoW3 and potentially Heavy Rain.

Also, nice to see you back oh wise Artist formerly known as Ghost. The place was getting dull and the people needed a leader to guide them to the promised land.

That's definitely a nice list. MS doesn't talk to much about future games (far off). But still, PS3's upcoming library is much more interesting and appealing to me.Episode_Eve

many of their games arent even dated for 09.