360 and Wii tied in software sales (NPD)

I found this interesting tidbit-

"As of the end of June 2009, the Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii were essentially tied in life-to-date software sales, each in the neighborhood of 132-133 million units. Note that the Xbox 360 has achieved those sales after 44 months on the market, compared to 32 for the Wii. PlayStation 3 software sales currently stand at 54 million units after 32 months on the market.

When the Xbox 360 was at the same point in its lifespan that the PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Wii are now (32 months on sale), American consumers had purchased around 82 million units of software for the system."

I find it interesting how so many say Wii players are not gamers yet look at the software sales. As or myself I am not a huge fan of Wii games but it seems they sure buy lots of games. I have always respected Nintendo for a few reasons. So I am glad to see their success.

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Am suprised the360 has sold as much as the Wii. I know the360 was out first butthe Wiihas alot more users than the 360.

Am suprised the360 has sold as much as the Wii. I know the360 was out first butthe Wiihas alot more users than the 360.campbell1874

Which is a feat in itself.

That's not really impressive for the Wii. They have a little under twice as many units out as the 360, but only sell the same amount of software? The problem lies with Wii buyers, who get wowed by the Wii Fit and the motion controls. They buy it, they play the "Wii ___" titles, and that's it. There'll probably be an even more severe turn toward casual games in an attempt to entice these consumers to buy more games. :?

doesnt that include wii sports?

im sure the 360 has, and always has had the highest attach rate of any console

That's not really impressive for the Wii. They have roughly twice as many units out as the 360, but only sell the same amount of software? The problem lies with Wii buyers, who get wowed by the Wii Fit and the motion controls. They buy it, they play the "Wii ___" titles, and that's it. There'll probably be an even more severe turn toward casual games in an attempt to entice these consumers to buy more games. :?

bubbleboyii

That's not really impressive for the Wii. They have a little under twice as many units out as the 360, but only sell the same amount of software? The problem lies with Wii buyers, who get wowed by the Wii Fit and the motion controls. They buy it, they play the "Wii ___" titles, and that's it. There'll probably be an even more severe turn toward casual games in an attempt to entice these consumers to buy more games. :?bubbleboyii

The point is that it took the Wii 32 months to do what the 360 did in 44 months. What's more, the 360 had a whole year alone on the market to gather sales while the Wii caught up and surpassed it with competition from both the 360 and the PlayStation 3. That certainly is impressive.

I found this interesting tidbit-

"As of the end of June 2009, the Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii were essentially tied in life-to-date software sales, each in the neighborhood of 132-133 million units. Note that the Xbox 360 has achieved those sales after 44 months on the market, compared to 32 for the Wii. PlayStation 3 software sales currently stand at 54 million units after 32 months on the market.

When the Xbox 360 was at the same point in its lifespan that the PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Wii are now (32 months on sale), American consumers had purchased around 82 million units of software for the system."

I find it interesting how so many say Wii players are not gamers yet look at the software sales. As or myself I am not a huge fan of Wii games but it seems they sure buy lots of games. I have always respected Nintendo for a few reasons. So I am glad to see their success.

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yea okkkkk, just cus u put quotation marks doesnt mean anything lOLOLOLO, edit-forgot the article, where is this article? u troll, xbox has 2 games that makes all its sales, while the ps3 has like 50 wide range exclusives

rybe1025

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

I found this interesting tidbit-

"As of the end of June 2009, the Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii were essentially tied in life-to-date software sales, each in the neighborhood of 132-133 million units. Note that the Xbox 360 has achieved those sales after 44 months on the market, compared to 32 for the Wii. PlayStation 3 software sales currently stand at 54 million units after 32 months on the market.

When the Xbox 360 was at the same point in its lifespan that the PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Wii are now (32 months on sale), American consumers had purchased around 82 million units of software for the system."

I find it interesting how so many say Wii players are not gamers yet look at the software sales. As or myself I am not a huge fan of Wii games but it seems they sure buy lots of games. I have always respected Nintendo for a few reasons. So I am glad to see their success.

Edit-Forgot the article

yea okkkkk, just cus u put quotation marks doesnt mean anything lOLOLOLO, edit-forgot the article, where is this article? u troll, xbox has 2 games that makes all its sales, while the ps3 has like 50 wide range exclusives

kingmanbrosky

As far as the PS3 having so many selling games then how come the 360 and the Wii have better sales?

[QUOTE="bubbleboyii"]

That's not really impressive for the Wii. They have a little under twice as many units out as the 360, but only sell the same amount of software? The problem lies with Wii buyers, who get wowed by the Wii Fit and the motion controls. They buy it, they play the "Wii ___" titles, and that's it. There'll probably be an even more severe turn toward casual games in an attempt to entice these consumers to buy more games. :?

The point is that it took the Wii 32 months to do what the 360 did in 44 months. What's more, the 360 had a whole year alone on the market to gather sales while the Wii caught up and surpassed it with competition from both the 360 and the PlayStation 3. That certainly is impressive.

What the total sales for each console. If someone could tell me what there roughly up. I just want to see what the attach rate is for each console.

dont be suprised,

wii is distined to get better,

my next few games will be wii lol , because of 09s great line up , ,

and some i may have missed

i just got bully the other day - i had it for 360 , ifind this one version to be funner,

and a tad easier in the music course but a tad more challenging for the biology course,

but its a great game , ,

and in less tiem they tied- that impressive, just wait til new super mario bros mario galaxy metoriod the other m the first and maybe the last i named is 2d side scrolling mixed with 3d , , thats been a while

and dont forget re0 redc dead space silent hill , some horror goodness

for those interisted

i have 60 retail games for wii and 80 for 360 , i have over 40 download on wii and nearly 20 on 360

so ya i got just about the same amount of games combined on both consoles

so its no suprise the sales have tied,.

it only makes since because wii and 360 offer totally different games for the most part

owning a wii and 360 makes more since then a ps3 and 360 because youd be so limited to sonys stuff ,

also some people have ps3 and wii ,

i own all 3 consoles of this gen , all of last gen all handhelds so far

and i play my 360 and wii more , besides rock band and some old ps2 titles i hardly use ps3,

i do got nearly 30 titles though for that one ,

5 downloaded the rest on disc,

15 psp and 27 ds , plus 2 on the dsi , download , 1 psp download title ,

its just the fact wii offers more selection of games for me at least i like racing platforming fps sim and other types of games as oposed to just a few genres,

i dno but there was an article on this site a few months back saying how the ps3 has the most game sales per console at like 7-9 games per console, so i dno all these conflicting articles are bogus

Not surprising

Wii games dominate the sales charts

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="bubbleboyii"]

That's not really impressive for the Wii. They have a little under twice as many units out as the 360, but only sell the same amount of software? The problem lies with Wii buyers, who get wowed by the Wii Fit and the motion controls. They buy it, they play the "Wii ___" titles, and that's it. There'll probably be an even more severe turn toward casual games in an attempt to entice these consumers to buy more games. :?Thebettertwin

The point is that it took the Wii 32 months to do what the 360 did in 44 months. What's more, the 360 had a whole year alone on the market to gather sales while the Wii caught up and surpassed it with competition from both the 360 and the PlayStation 3. That certainly is impressive.

im pretty sure wii sports isnt being counted, theres more then 800 wii games ,

im pretty sure all wii games combined make that number if not then hey its higher , npd needs to do some more research lol ,

im pretty sure that may be the case ,

It's odd how people attempt to discredit this feat by saying that the Wii has a little under double the total sales of the 360 when that is a feat itself as well.

I always see it on top sellers of the month charts, so I don't see why it wouldn't be included, even though it shouldn't be.

im pretty sure wii sports isnt being counted, theres more then 800 wii games ,

im pretty sure all wii games combined make that number if not then hey its higher , npd needs to do some more research lol ,

im pretty sure that may be the case ,

mariokart64fan

Hmm I did not think about Wii sports. When I saw your post I looked it up on VG Charts. it seems in America where NPD covers Wii Sports sold 28 million. Even subtracting Wii Sports it is still pretty impressive.

rybe1025

Wii Play also plays a large part with nearly 13 million titles sold in America, but even so I'm sure that Nintendo is pleased with those numbers, but I doubt it is the same with 3rd party developers, since Nintendo titles make up almost 50% of all software sales (but this 50% data is from 2008 financial reports, but from low 3rd party sales in recent NPD releases I doubt much has changed).

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[QUOTE="bubbleboyii"]

That's not really impressive for the Wii. They have a little under twice as many units out as the 360, but only sell the same amount of software? The problem lies with Wii buyers, who get wowed by the Wii Fit and the motion controls. They buy it, they play the "Wii ___" titles, and that's it. There'll probably be an even more severe turn toward casual games in an attempt to entice these consumers to buy more games. :?Thebettertwin

The point is that it took the Wii 32 months to do what the 360 did in 44 months. What's more, the 360 had a whole year alone on the market to gather sales while the Wii caught up and surpassed it with competition from both the 360 and the PlayStation 3. That certainly is impressive.

I suggest we also exclude all those Xbox 360 bundles as well then for the sake of being fair. There will be no need, however, for Wii Sports is not included in these massive software sales. This means that there no need to worry anymore either, my friend, for the Wii's software sales are not weak. Furthermore, just for clarification, Wii Sports hasn't been included in the Wii's software sales in the past either.

If you look at NDPs monthly sales charts you will notice that wii sports is never on the list. So no they do not count wii sports.

If you look at NDPs monthly sales charts you will notice that wii sports is never on the list. So no they do not count wii sports.Guybrush_3

Quite true. Do you think Thebettertwin will notice?

Now factor out the 48 million or so copies of Wii Sports alone....As well as the 20 million or so Wii Fit copies, and there you have it.

Wii's game sales are pretty dismal for it's 55 million user install base.

Now factor out the 48 million or so copies of Wii Sports alone....As well as the 20 million or so Wii Fit copies, and there you have it.

Wii's game sales are pretty dismal for it's 55 million user install base.treedoor

Dear Lord of Gaming, have you read any of the posts in this thread?

Now factor out the 48 million or so copies of Wii Sports alone....As well as the 20 million or so Wii Fit copies, and there you have it.

Wii's game sales are pretty dismal for it's 55 million user install base.

treedoor

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

If you look at NDPs monthly sales charts you will notice that wii sports is never on the list. So no they do not count wii sports.Hexagon_777

Quite true. Do you think Thebettertwin will notice?

probably not, and apparently neither will people who post in this thread after our posts. Learn to read people.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

If you look at NDPs monthly sales charts you will notice that wii sports is never on the list. So no they do not count wii sports.Guybrush_3

Quite true. Do you think Thebettertwin will notice?

probably not, and apparently neither will people who post in this thread after our posts. Learn to read people.

I guess posts like treedoor's are the very definition of blind hate. :P

It's somewhat amusing, though. :)

NPD doesn't count Wii Sports because they dony count ANY bundled software. NPD correctly does not consider bundled software to be a separate sale.

This is one of the reasons that some games surprisingly become platinum or higher when the retail sales (NPD, Media Create etc) wouldn't seem to indicate it.

It is also one of the reasons why some people on this board believe certain games have 'legs', when in fact they don't. They drop off the charts immediately, some time later they get bundled, and then down the road the publisher says X or Y game has hit 1M units or whatever. Yes, but not really. They only got there because they were bundled.

NPD doesn't count Wii Sports because they dony count ANY bundled software. NPD correctly does not consider bundled software to be a separate sale.

This is one of the reasons that some games surprisingly become platinum or higher when the retail sales (NPD, Media Create etc) wouldn't seem to indicate it.

It is also one of the reasons why some people on this board believe certain games have 'legs', when in fact they don't. They drop off the charts immediately, some time later they get bundled, and then down the road the publisher says X or Y game has hit 1M units or whatever. Yes, but not really. They only got there because they were bundled.

SUD123456

I am afraid that people like Thebettertwin and treedoor will contiue to post false information, though. :(

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

NPD doesn't count Wii Sports because they dony count ANY bundled software. NPD correctly does not consider bundled software to be a separate sale.

This is one of the reasons that some games surprisingly become platinum or higher when the retail sales (NPD, Media Create etc) wouldn't seem to indicate it.

It is also one of the reasons why some people on this board believe certain games have 'legs', when in fact they don't. They drop off the charts immediately, some time later they get bundled, and then down the road the publisher says X or Y game has hit 1M units or whatever. Yes, but not really. They only got there because they were bundled.

Hexagon_777

I am afraid that people like Thebettertwin and treedoor will contiue to post false information, though. :(

When you walk into a thread with preconceived notions and fail to read ... well, that's what you get.

Hmm I did not think about Wii sports. When I saw your post I looked it up on VG Charts. it seems in America where NPD covers Wii Sports sold 23 million. Even subtracting Wii Sports it is still pretty impressive.

Thebettertwin

actually no. in america it's bundled and wouldn't count on NPD numbers. If we look every month wii sports is not on NPD.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

NPD doesn't count Wii Sports because they dony count ANY bundled software. NPD correctly does not consider bundled software to be a separate sale.

This is one of the reasons that some games surprisingly become platinum or higher when the retail sales (NPD, Media Create etc) wouldn't seem to indicate it.

It is also one of the reasons why some people on this board believe certain games have 'legs', when in fact they don't. They drop off the charts immediately, some time later they get bundled, and then down the road the publisher says X or Y game has hit 1M units or whatever. Yes, but not really. They only got there because they were bundled.CoralMark

I am afraid that people like Thebettertwin and treedoor will contiue to post false information, though. :(

When you walk into a thread with preconceived notions and fail to read ... well, that's what you get.

That's not what I want, though. :evil:

Santa failed this year. :(

Now factor out the 48 million or so copies of Wii Sports alone....As well as the 20 million or so Wii Fit copies, and there you have it.

Wii's game sales are pretty dismal for it's 55 million user install base.

treedoor

so one can deduce that the Wii's attach rate in America is about 1/2 of the 360s?lhughey

no. It's about 23.5 million to 17.5 million in the US, so it is closer to 3/4 of the 360s attach rate.

[QUOTE="Thebettertwin"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

The point is that it took the Wii 32 months to do what the 360 did in 44 months. What's more, the 360 had a whole year alone on the market to gather sales while the Wii caught up and surpassed it with competition from both the 360 and the PlayStation 3. That certainly is impressive.

I suggest we also exclude all those Xbox 360 bundles as well then for the sake of being fair. There will be no need, however, for Wii Sports is not included in these massive software sales. This means that there no need to worry anymore either, my friend, for the Wii's software sales are not weak. Furthermore, just for clarification, Wii Sports hasn't been included in the Wii's software sales in the past either.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="Thebettertwin"] wii sports makes up what 40 million of the 130 that is the telliling number cos it means that the wii has only sold 90 million, with such a high install base thats pretty weakblue_hazy_basic

I suggest we also exclude all those Xbox 360 bundles as well then for the sake of being fair. There will be no need, however, for Wii Sports is not included in these massive software sales. This means that there no need to worry anymore either, my friend, for the Wii's software sales are not weak. Furthermore, just for clarification, Wii Sports hasn't been included in the Wii's software sales in the past either.

Important to point out that Wii software is cheaper, but its an unstoppable juggernaut. I'm sure in their wildest dreams Nintendo couldn't have believed how successful it would be and the cultural icon it now is. Indeed, I'm sure both MS and Nin execs are delighted with their software sales.

And they have every reason to! Sony, on the other hand...

And people wonder why software sales aren't as good as they could be.

lol i love how the "it also plays games" was clearly an afterthought.

Xbox has been out longer, but Wii has many more units in homes. 360 must be doing very well to have software sales similar to a rival with millions more in hardware sales...

Xbox has been out longer, but Wii has many more units in homes. 360 must be doing very well to have software sales similar to a rival with millions more in hardware sales...Franco-J

The point is that it took the Wii 32 months to do what the 360 did in 44 months. What's more, the 360 had a whole year alone on the market to gather sales while the Wii caught up and surpassed it with competition from both the 360 and the PlayStation 3. That certainly is impressive.

i dno but there was an article on this site a few months back saying how the ps3 has the most game sales per console at like 7-9 games per console, so i dno all these conflicting articles are bogus

kingmanbrosky

[QUOTE="bubbleboyii"]

That's not really impressive for the Wii. They have a little under twice as many units out as the 360, but only sell the same amount of software? The problem lies with Wii buyers, who get wowed by the Wii Fit and the motion controls. They buy it, they play the "Wii ___" titles, and that's it. There'll probably be an even more severe turn toward casual games in an attempt to entice these consumers to buy more games. :?

The point is that it took the Wii 32 months to do what the 360 did in 44 months. What's more, the 360 had a whole year alone on the market to gather sales while the Wii caught up and surpassed it with competition from both the 360 and the PlayStation 3. That certainly is impressive.

doesnt that include wii sports?

im sure the 360 has, and always has had the highest attach rate of any console

Thebettertwin

It does not really matter if it has a better attachment rate if there is twice has many Wii compared to 360. HarlockJC

Well the high attachment rate is the main reason the Xbox 360 can match the better sold Wii in software sales so how do you figure it does't matter ?

Its incredible the 360 can match the Wii in software not the other way around , that the Wii sold much more hardware in the same period is another thing !

For the 360 to achieve those numbers with a smaller install base means that developers might end up looking at the 360 more often than Wii or PS3. That means people who own 360's are more willing to spend money on games, and buy more games than other users.

impossible.

software does not sell on the wii - that is a generally known system wars fact.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

It does not really matter if it has a better attachment rate if there is twice has many Wii compared to 360. Caseytappy

Well the high attachment rate is the main reason the Xbox 360 can match the better sold Wii in software sales so how do you figure it does't matter ?

Its incredible the 360 can match the Wii in software not the other way around , that the Wii sold much more hardware in the same period is another thing !