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#101 jangojay
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Whats your point? Answer my question does the PC has games like Ninja Gaiden, Lost Odyssey? And like I said before I really don't care how many more they are and my list has almost every genre covered. silentobi

He answered you.....

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#102 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] jUst because you know nothing about the Pc's current roster doesn't mean you can run around pretending the PC has no good games. goddamn_

Well, I learnt something playing on PC since late 80-th. Probably modern hermits started in 2005 and have no idea what is real quality PC games are.

Real quality PC games live on X360 now, PC went downhill with this low quality stuff like Far Cry, DOOM 3, FEAR and so on.

you like Black...you dont even know what quality is.

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#103 dgsag
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] jUst because you know nothing about the Pc's current roster doesn't mean you can run around pretending the PC has no good games. cobrax25

Well, I learnt something playing on PC since late 80-th. Probably modern hermits started in 2005 and have no idea what is real quality PC games are.

Real quality PC games live on X360 now, PC went downhill with this low quality stuff like Far Cry, DOOM 3, FEAR and so on.

you like Black...you dont even know what quality is.

And Far Cry = low quality? :lol:

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#104 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="jangojay"]But we have more exclusives every year..... console exclusives on the other hand are becoming extinct..goddamn_

Have no idea what are you talking about.

2006: exclusive PC shooters = zero (even PS3 had one). Exclusive PC RPG = zero.

2005: same

2007: Stalker, Crysis, Witcher (Mass Effect >> Witcher)

After playing the whole 2005 old games I went and bought X360

uh....2005 was when BF2 came out....

in 2006 BF2142 came out....along with neverwinter nights 2 (an RPG is case you had no clue)

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#105 silentobi
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[QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="silentobi"]Call me when PC has Too human, Ninja Gaiden 2, God of War 3, Banjo 3, DMC 4, Forza series,SMG, Lost Oddessy, Dead Rising, PGR 4, and Kameo until then PC just doesn't do it for me. Meu2k7

God of War 3, and SMG are not on 360. DMC 4 is coming to PC. That certainly whittles the list down...

The rest of those games are hardly 360's bread and butter.

So SMG is on my Wii and when I get my PS3 it'll be on my PS3. That doesn't whittles nothing because I wasn't even finished lets see Too human, Ninja Gaiden 2, Banjo 3, Forza 2-3, Lost Oddessy, Dead Rising, Perfect Dark Zero, Ace combat 6, SC 4, PGR4, Blue Dragon, Halo 3, Kameo, GTA 4, Dead Or Alive 4... want me to keep going?

Halo 3 and GTA4. will be on the PC.

Basically you are just posting to annoy? like the TC is.

360 wasnt enough so you conveniatly add 2 more systems? this was about the 360, nothing else ... but by all means continue, the need to pit 3 against one just shows how strong the PC is.

If im posting to annoy then what are you doing? Did you even read the post above yours? Do you realize that the games I listed were all on the 360 and not on the PC. And until there annouced for the PC you can't just say they will be on the PC. Are they on the PC? No Are they on the 360? Yes.

Yes I did read it, however ive notice a trend that you say this in a few different threads.

Its too easy and conviniant for you to list every console exclusive and no PC exclusives, its just an indication of denial, and it is annoying to read, ofcourse you will just denie it, because I cant proove it.

its just ... too conveniant ... sorry.

What the...? I really don't know whats your trying to say. I list 2 games that wasn't on the 360. Someone said this was a 360 vs. PC fight which I didn't realized, so I made a new list featuring games that were all 360 and none on PC. Really 2 games is every console exclusive?
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#106 goddamn_
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And Far Cry = low quality? :lol:dgsag

The game was just unplayable, this guys had no clue how to do shooters.

BF has no single, don't play such shooters.

NWN was a pure trash with the WORST combat in RPG ever (with Arcanum). It was so primitive and boring that even Diablo was in comparison tactical monster.

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[QUOTE="dgsag"]And Far Cry = low quality? :lol:goddamn_

The game was just unplayable, this guys had no clue how to do shooters.

BF has no single, don't play such shooters.

NWN was a pure trash with the WORST combat in RPG ever (with Arcanum). It was so primitive and boring that even Diablo was in comparison tactical monster.

when will you understand that nobody actually cares what you think.....these games all got good reviews, and thats far more credible than you are.....especially since you consider Black to be a strong FPS.

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#108 silentobi
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[QUOTE="silentobi"] Whats your point? Answer my question does the PC has games like Ninja Gaiden, Lost Odyssey? And like I said before I really don't care how many more they are and my list has almost every genre covered. jangojay

He answered you.....

No he didn't :| he went on saying that the PC only lacks 2d fighters and JRPGS which is not even true.
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#109 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="dgsag"]And Far Cry = low quality? :lol:goddamn_

The game was just unplayable, this guys had no clue how to do shooters.

BF has no single, don't play such shooters.

NWN was a pure trash with the WORST combat in RPG ever (with Arcanum). It was so primitive and boring that even Diablo was in comparison tactical monster.

Hah, missing out on Battlefield then complaining just prooves your not worth the effort, about as credible as a chimp.

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#110 Vandalvideo
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Whats your point? Answer my question does the PC has games like Ninja Gaden, Lost Odyssey? And like I said before I really don't care how many more they are and my list has almost every genre covered. EDIT: I just read your last sentence you can list a significant amount of platformers on PC :lol:. What about fighters? And those hack and slash games comes in by the truck load on the PC right?silentobi
Capcom is one of the companies that is beginning to push hack and slash games like DMC4 for the PC. Hack and slash games are beginning to migrate to the PC, and I wouldn't be surprised to see NG2 either. With that said, the only genre that the PC lacks are 2d fighters and JRPGs.
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Consoles and PC are both great each with his own games and memories Enough said.
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#112 goddamn_
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when will you understand that nobody actually cares what you think.....these games all got good reviews, and thats far more credible than you are.....especially since you consider Black to be a strong FPS.cobrax25

Well I explain to you: I don't interesting to fight almost the whole game with extremely stupid and extremely armored gorilas. Personaly for me it's plain boring and is a very bad style in any shooter. At the begining Far Cry was good, though feels a bit as arcade version of Ghost Recon but was OK.

Glad for you that you enjoeyed the game from begining to end.

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#113 silentobi
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[QUOTE="silentobi"]Whats your point? Answer my question does the PC has games like Ninja Gaden, Lost Odyssey? And like I said before I really don't care how many more they are and my list has almost every genre covered. EDIT: I just read your last sentence you can list a significant amount of platformers on PC :lol:. What about fighters? And those hack and slash games comes in by the truck load on the PC right?Vandalvideo
Capcom is one of the companies that is beginning to push hack and slash games like DMC4 for the PC. Hack and slash games are beginning to migrate to the PC, and I wouldn't be surprised to see NG2 either. With that said, the only genre that the PC lacks are 2d fighters and JRPGs.

Im not even going to bother :lol:. Shoot this whole post is laughable at best. 1 hack and slash = a significant amount. And you keep on leaving out the platformers.
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#114 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="silentobi"]Whats your point? Answer my question does the PC has games like Ninja Gaden, Lost Odyssey? And like I said before I really don't care how many more they are and my list has almost every genre covered. EDIT: I just read your last sentence you can list a significant amount of platformers on PC :lol:. What about fighters? And those hack and slash games comes in by the truck load on the PC right?silentobi
Capcom is one of the companies that is beginning to push hack and slash games like DMC4 for the PC. Hack and slash games are beginning to migrate to the PC, and I wouldn't be surprised to see NG2 either. With that said, the only genre that the PC lacks are 2d fighters and JRPGs.

Im not even going to bother :lol:. Shoot this whole post is laughable at best. 1 hack and slash = a significant amount. And you keep on leaving out the platformers.

LIke there are a hueg plethora of hack and slash on next gen consoles at the momment to begin with. Most hack and slash games are making their way to the PC, with capcom leading their way. Its only a matter of time before even more transition over.
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Maybe, i've got a computer but i can only use it for school work pretty much. Can't play many games as i only have a 1.5ghz speed thing and like 512mb RAM. So ill have to stick to the 360 :)
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[QUOTE="dgsag"]And Far Cry = low quality? :lol:goddamn_

The game was just unplayable, this guys had no clue how to do shooters.

BF has no single, don't play such shooters.

NWN was a pure trash with the WORST combat in RPG ever (with Arcanum). It was so primitive and boring that even Diablo was in comparison tactical monster.

I can't comment on the quality of Far Cry (always wanted to try it) and BF, but I do agree that Neverwinter Nights wasn't all it was cracked up to be. I gave up on it pretty quickly, and amused myself by watching my brother simply walk up to the most powerful monsters in the game, and easily hack them to pieces. But I did love Diablo, so I hope you're not insulting one of my favorite PC games ever. :P

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#117 Vandalvideo
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I can't comment on the quality of Far Cry (always wanted to try it) and BF, but I do agree that Neverwinter Nights wasn't all it was cracked up to be. I gave up on it pretty quickly, and amused myself by watching my brother simply walk up to the most powerful monsters in the game, and easily hack them to pieces. But I did love Diablo, so I hope you're not insulting one of my favorite PC games ever. :PSeanBond
Welcome to isometric hack and slash rpgs. Even in Diablo you could run into the cow level, throw a few ice balls with the mage, and everything died.
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#118 silentobi
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[QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="silentobi"]Whats your point? Answer my question does the PC has games like Ninja Gaden, Lost Odyssey? And like I said before I really don't care how many more they are and my list has almost every genre covered. EDIT: I just read your last sentence you can list a significant amount of platformers on PC :lol:. What about fighters? And those hack and slash games comes in by the truck load on the PC right?Vandalvideo
Capcom is one of the companies that is beginning to push hack and slash games like DMC4 for the PC. Hack and slash games are beginning to migrate to the PC, and I wouldn't be surprised to see NG2 either. With that said, the only genre that the PC lacks are 2d fighters and JRPGs.

Im not even going to bother :lol:. Shoot this whole post is laughable at best. 1 hack and slash = a significant amount. And you keep on leaving out the platformers.

LIke there are a hueg plethora of hack and slash on next gen consoles at the momment to begin with. Most hack and slash games are making their way to the PC, with capcom leading their way. Its only a matter of time before even more transition over.

1 doesn't equal most. And it's really funny you would even think NG2 will come to the PC. :P
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#119 goddamn_
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I can't comment on the quality of Far Cry (always wanted to try it) and BF, but I do agree that Neverwinter Nights wasn't all it was cracked up to be. I gave up on it pretty quickly, and amused myself by watching my brother simply walk up to the most powerful monsters in the game, and easily hack them to pieces. But I did love Diablo, so I hope you're not insulting one of my favorite PC games ever. :PSeanBond

Hopefully Dragon Age will restore reputation of Bioware as a strongest PC RPG developer.

Diablo II is one of my favorite games ever. Combat in this game in fact is very far from simple and require very precize building of hero and items selection. Otherwise you will be dead on Hell in minutes (with Lord of Destruction)

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#120 SeanBond
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[QUOTE="SeanBond"]I can't comment on the quality of Far Cry (always wanted to try it) and BF, but I do agree that Neverwinter Nights wasn't all it was cracked up to be. I gave up on it pretty quickly, and amused myself by watching my brother simply walk up to the most powerful monsters in the game, and easily hack them to pieces. But I did love Diablo, so I hope you're not insulting one of my favorite PC games ever. :PVandalvideo
Welcome to isometric hack and slash rpgs. Even in Diablo you could run into the cow level, throw a few ice balls with the mage, and everything died.

Believe me, I never entertained the idea Diablo was anything more than a hack and slash.

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#121 Vandalvideo
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1 doesn't equal most. And it's really funny you would even think NG2 will come to the PC. :P silentobi
I didn't say most, "there are a significant number", and if I did say most, the context was in a significant number. With the marginally low ammount of hack and slash games for the consoles at the momment, DMC4 counts as a significant number of the hack and slash games currently available for consoles. And besides, I wouldn't be suprised if NG2 came to the PC as a games for windows title.
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[QUOTE="SeanBond"]I can't comment on the quality of Far Cry (always wanted to try it) and BF, but I do agree that Neverwinter Nights wasn't all it was cracked up to be. I gave up on it pretty quickly, and amused myself by watching my brother simply walk up to the most powerful monsters in the game, and easily hack them to pieces. But I did love Diablo, so I hope you're not insulting one of my favorite PC games ever. :Pgoddamn_

Hopefully Dragon Age will restore reputation of Bioware as a strongest PC RPG developer.

Diablo II is one of my favorite games ever. Combat in this game in fact is very far from simple and require very precize building of hero and items selection. Otherwise you will be dead on Hell in minutes (with Lord of Destruction)

Yeah, I didn't like Diablo II as much as the first (at had some issues with the way the game worked), but it was definitely very good, and not at all easy; I died countless times.

As to Bioware, I guess it depends on who you ask, but Mass Effect alone puts them in the upper stratum of developers, in my opinion. Even with the couple of technical issues in the 360 version, the game is amazing, the story is extremely interesting (at first glance it's the typical "save the galaxy from evil villian" cutout, but the beauty is in the details), and the combat is even a lot of fun if you do more than just shoot. The game does a good job of giving you interesting moral and personal decisions to make, and it keeps the decisions fresh. If Dragon Age is equally good, PC fans should rejoice, and 360 owners should pray for a port.

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[QUOTE="goddamn_"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]This made me laugh. cobrax25

Yeah! I laughed too when I saw PC Gears. Game suffered a lot from porting and gameplay doesn't feel as good as on X360. While on X360 enemies never do any mistake, on PC they often just stack somewhere like in Quake 1.

Looks like Epic didn't put too much efforts in porting.

lol...you didnt even play the PC version did you?

In the Tiberium issue Gameinformer said the 360 version is far superior to the PC version

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Yeah, I didn't like Diablo II as much as the first (at had some issues with the way the game worked), but it was definitely very good, and not at all easy; I died countless times.

As to Bioware, I guess it depends on who you ask, but Mass Effect alone puts them in the upper stratum of developers, in my opinion. Even with the couple of technical issues in the 360 version, the game is amazing, the story is extremely interesting (at first glance it's the typical "save the galaxy from evil villian" cutout, but the beauty is in the details), and the combat is even a lot of fun if you do more than just shoot. The game does a good job of giving you interesting moral and personal decisions to make, and it keeps the decisions fresh. If Dragon Age is equally good, PC fans should rejoice, and 360 owners should pray for a port.

SeanBond

With EA now in control, I might not have to pray to much. ;)

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#125 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="goddamn_"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]This made me laugh. manny280

Yeah! I laughed too when I saw PC Gears. Game suffered a lot from porting and gameplay doesn't feel as good as on X360. While on X360 enemies never do any mistake, on PC they often just stack somewhere like in Quake 1.

Looks like Epic didn't put too much efforts in porting.

lol...you didnt even play the PC version did you?

In the Tiberium issue Gameinformer said the 360 version is far superior to the PC version

and over here in gamespot, the game has the "best on PC" tag.

seriously...what could ever be better about the 360 version.

the PC version.

-has better graphics

- has more content.

-has more options for control input (supports the 360 controler as well)

-has a map editor....

There is nothing that could actually be better about the 360 version.

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#126 silentobi
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[QUOTE="silentobi"] 1 doesn't equal most. And it's really funny you would even think NG2 will come to the PC. :P Vandalvideo
I didn't say most, "there are a significant number", and if I did say most, the context was in a significant number. With the marginally low ammount of hack and slash games for the consoles at the momment, DMC4 counts as a significant number of the hack and slash games currently available for consoles. And besides, I wouldn't be suprised if NG2 came to the PC as a games for windows title.

Please stop with the NG2 to PC thing it's not going to happen. That like saying I wouldn't be surprised if Starcaft 2 was also coming to consoles. The game wouldn't work on 360 just like NG2 wouldn't work on PC. And when did you EVER hear Team Ninja even say PC out of there mouth's?
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[QUOTE="manny280"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="goddamn_"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]This made me laugh. cobrax25

Yeah! I laughed too when I saw PC Gears. Game suffered a lot from porting and gameplay doesn't feel as good as on X360. While on X360 enemies never do any mistake, on PC they often just stack somewhere like in Quake 1.

Looks like Epic didn't put too much efforts in porting.

lol...you didnt even play the PC version did you?

In the Tiberium issue Gameinformer said the 360 version is far superior to the PC version

and over here in gamespot, the game has the "best on PC" tag.

seriously...what could ever be better about the 360 version.

the PC version.

-has better graphics

- has more content.

-has more options for control input (supports the 360 controler as well)

-has a map editor....

There is nothing that could actually be better about the 360 version.

All depends with the PC you are using. Safer bet with the 360. I'm sorry to disapoint you. It's better on the PC with the right rig that most of us care not to afford.

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[QUOTE="SeanBond"]

Yeah, I didn't like Diablo II as much as the first (at had some issues with the way the game worked), but it was definitely very good, and not at all easy; I died countless times.

As to Bioware, I guess it depends on who you ask, but Mass Effect alone puts them in the upper stratum of developers, in my opinion. Even with the couple of technical issues in the 360 version, the game is amazing, the story is extremely interesting (at first glance it's the typical "save the galaxy from evil villian" cutout, but the beauty is in the details), and the combat is even a lot of fun if you do more than just shoot. The game does a good job of giving you interesting moral and personal decisions to make, and it keeps the decisions fresh. If Dragon Age is equally good, PC fans should rejoice, and 360 owners should pray for a port.

xsubtownerx

With EA now in control, I might not have to pray to much. ;)

I don't play games on the PC either, really, so I'll be praying for a 360 version as well. But yeah, as long as EA doesn't infect Bioware with their disease, we should see ports of every conceivable game.

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#130 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="manny280"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="goddamn_"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]This made me laugh. xsubtownerx

Yeah! I laughed too when I saw PC Gears. Game suffered a lot from porting and gameplay doesn't feel as good as on X360. While on X360 enemies never do any mistake, on PC they often just stack somewhere like in Quake 1.

Looks like Epic didn't put too much efforts in porting.

lol...you didnt even play the PC version did you?

In the Tiberium issue Gameinformer said the 360 version is far superior to the PC version

and over here in gamespot, the game has the "best on PC" tag.

seriously...what could ever be better about the 360 version.

the PC version.

-has better graphics

- has more content.

-has more options for control input (supports the 360 controler as well)

-has a map editor....

There is nothing that could actually be better about the 360 version.

All depends with the PC you are using. Safer bet with the 360. I'm sorry to disapoint you. It's better on the PC with the right rig that most of us care not to afford.

that doesnt mean its not better.....especially since it doesnt take a strong PC to run it the same way the 360 does.

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#131 dgsag
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I don't play games on the PC either, really, so I'll be praying for a 360 version as well. But yeah, as long as EA doesn't infect Bioware with their disease, we should see ports of every conceivable game.

SeanBond

Don't you mean, if they DO? :?

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#132 xsubtownerx
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Does it change the fact it is better?

jangojay

Nope. Just for a select few herms. So no one really cares.

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#134 jangojay
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[QUOTE="jangojay"]

Does it change the fact it is better?

xsubtownerx

Nope. Just for a select few herms. So no one really cares.

There are alot of people who have high end rigs. Nvidia's 8800 line up has sold extremely well. Probably more than consoles but I may be pushing it.

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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="jangojay"]

Does it change the fact it is better?

jangojay

Nope. Just for a select few herms. So no one really cares.

There are alot of people who have high end rigs. Nvidia's 8800 line up has sold extremely well. Probably more than consoles but I may be pushing it.

I guess we'll have to wait to see the PC sales of Mass Effect vs the 360's then use some kind of percentage of how many of them are using high end Pcs then divide it and so forth. It'll be grand fun times..

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#136 SeanBond
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I don't play games on the PC either, really, so I'll be praying for a 360 version as well. But yeah, as long as EA doesn't infect Bioware with their disease, we should see ports of every conceivable game.

dgsag

Don't you mean, if they DO? :?

Sorry, I meant if they don't infect Bioware with their disease, we should be excited to receive ports of Bioware's games. As long as EA doesn't ruin Bioware, I don't care if they publish their games on the Commodore 64.

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#137 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="SeanBond"]

I don't play games on the PC either, really, so I'll be praying for a 360 version as well. But yeah, as long as EA doesn't infect Bioware with their disease, we should see ports of every conceivable game.

SeanBond

Don't you mean, if they DO? :?

Sorry, I meant if they don't infect Bioware with their disease, we should be excited to receive ports of Bioware's games. As long as EA doesn't ruin Bioware, I don't care if they publish their games on the Commodore 64.

The problem with Dragon Age, is that its an isometric party style RPG isnt it? intentionally old school? now, based on Never Winter Nights, and Baldurs Gate's didnt appear on consoles ( in thier forms, Baldurs gates PS2 ... was a hack n slash mainly ) ...

It would be hard to imagine Dragon Age on a console.

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#138 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="jangojay"]

Does it change the fact it is better?

xsubtownerx

Nope. Just for a select few herms. So no one really cares.

There are alot of people who have high end rigs. Nvidia's 8800 line up has sold extremely well. Probably more than consoles but I may be pushing it.

I guess we'll have to wait to see the PC sales of Mass Effect vs the 360's then use some kind of percentage of how many of them are using high end Pcs then divide it and so forth. It'll be grand fun times..

mass effect...a port, would be a terrible comparison......

That would be like me using the Orange box for comparison (which sold much much better on the PC)

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#139 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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As a hardcore hermit, I'd still prefer a PS3 over a 360 because of the exclusives. 2-3 games just for one system not worth it for me.
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#140 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="silentobi"] 1 doesn't equal most. And it's really funny you would even think NG2 will come to the PC. :P silentobi
I didn't say most, "there are a significant number", and if I did say most, the context was in a significant number. With the marginally low ammount of hack and slash games for the consoles at the momment, DMC4 counts as a significant number of the hack and slash games currently available for consoles. And besides, I wouldn't be suprised if NG2 came to the PC as a games for windows title.

Please stop with the NG2 to PC thing it's not going to happen. That like saying I wouldn't be surprised if Starcaft 2 was also coming to consoles. The game wouldn't work on 360 just like NG2 wouldn't work on PC. And when did you EVER hear Team Ninja even say PC out of there mouth's?

We have gamepads in case you didn't know. NG2 would work perfectly fine on the PC.