360 CHEATS at rendering games, proof included.

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#1 mrboo15
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:lol: 360 HAS to render games at a lower resolusion then 720p to get decent performance :lol:

It then lets its built in scaler upscale the games into720p giving the FALSE impression that 360 is rendering games at 1280x720p but its not its often ALOT lower. :lol:

GeOW for example is rendered at 960x720, i meen 960x720? WTF? Hardly the HD-Era that Microsoft promished :lol:

Dont beleive me? He's the quote from the DEVELOPERS - Link

960x720=691,200pixels

1280x720=921,600 pixels

Thats a 25% difference, yes thats right gears is being rendered with 25% LESS pixels so EPIC could keep a decent framerate :lol:

And it still did'nt work because Gears still has framerate issue's :lol:

Theres ALOT more games then Gears that do it, have alook Here

Xenos :lol:

Letthedamagecontrolcommence:lol:

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i don't care
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#3 Arsuz
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Yes and PS3 does dual 1080P at 120 FPS. What's your point?
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:lol: 360 HAS to render games ata lower resolusion then 720p to get decent performance :lol:

It then lets its built in scaler upscale the games into720p giving the FALSE impression that 360 is rendering games at
1280x720p but its not its often ALOT lower. :lol:

GeOW for example is rendered at 960x720, i meen 960x720? WTF? Hardly the HD-Era that Microsoft promished :lol:

Dont beleive me? He's the quote from the DEVELOPERS - Link

960x720=691,200pixels

1280x720=921,600 pixels

Thats a 25% difference, yes thats right gears is being rendered with 25% LESS pixels so EPIC could keep a decent framerate :lol:

And it still did'nt work because Gears still has framerate issue's :lol:

Theres ALOT more games then Gears that do it, have a Here

Xenos :lol:mrboo15

Almost as funny as the fact that no PS3 exclusive will ever score as high, sell as well, or ever come close to GOTY! :lol:

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You can tell this thread is weak because he has to laugh at his own post every other sentence.
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[QUOTE="mrboo15"]:lol: 360 HAS to render games ata lower resolusion then 720p to get decent performance :lol:

It then lets its built in scaler upscale the games into720p giving the FALSE impression that 360 is rendering games at
1280x720p but its not its often ALOT lower. :lol:

GeOW for example is rendered at 960x720, i meen 960x720? WTF? Hardly the HD-Era that Microsoft promished :lol:

Dont beleive me? He's the quote from the DEVELOPERS - Link

960x720=691,200pixels

1280x720=921,600 pixels

Thats a 25% difference, yes thats right gears is being rendered with 25% LESS pixels so EPIC could keep a decent framerate :lol:

And it still did'nt work because Gears still has framerate issue's :lol:

Theres ALOT more games then Gears that do it, have a Here

Xenos :lol:V_Isle

Almost as funny as the fact that no PS3 exclusive will ever score as high, sell as well, or ever come close to GOTY! :lol:

Just because his post was dumb doesn't it mean you have to outdumb him. MGS4,FFXIII and GT5 will outsell GeOW by a large margin.

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#7 SpruceCaboose
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You can tell this thread is weak since its "proof" is a link to another forum discussion...

Upscaled or not, its got the current graphics king on console, and if it is upscaled, that looks bad on the PS3, now doesn't it? ;)

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#8 SpruceCaboose
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Just because his post was dumb doesn't it mean you have to outdumb him.

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#9 musicalmac  Moderator
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You can tell this thread is weak since its "proof" is a link to another forum discussion...

Upscaled or not, its got the current graphics king on console, and if it is upscaled, that looks bad on the PS3, now doesn't it? ;)

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Yet Gears is still one of the best looking console games ever. So your point falls flat.
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#11 Wemhim256
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So is the PC the only system that can actually back up its claims on power?
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Almost as funny as the fact that no PS3 exclusive will ever score as high, sell as well, or ever come close to GOTY! :lol:

V_Isle
The MGS series is known to be pretty big actually... Whether or not you like it, it's a major game, as well as FFXIII.
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[QUOTE="V_Isle"]

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]:lol: 360 HAS to render games ata lower resolusion then 720p to get decent performance :lol:

It then lets its built in scaler upscale the games into720p giving the FALSE impression that 360 is rendering games at
1280x720p but its not its often ALOT lower. :lol:

GeOW for example is rendered at 960x720, i meen 960x720? WTF? Hardly the HD-Era that Microsoft promished :lol:

Dont beleive me? He's the quote from the DEVELOPERS - Link

960x720=691,200pixels

1280x720=921,600 pixels

Thats a 25% difference, yes thats right gears is being rendered with 25% LESS pixels so EPIC could keep a decent framerate :lol:

And it still did'nt work because Gears still has framerate issue's :lol:

Theres ALOT more games then Gears that do it, have a Here

Xenos :lol:azad_champ

Almost as funny as the fact that no PS3 exclusive will ever score as high, sell as well, or ever come close to GOTY! :lol:

Just because his post was dumb doesn't it mean you have to outdumb him. MGS4,FFXIII and GT5 will outsell GeOW by a large margin.

all of those games are for hardcores, gears is aimed at casual. maybe all 3 put together Might outsell gears, but im willing to bet that gears2 would outsell all 3 put together.

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#15 SpaceMatt
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Did anybody even bother reading the link?

The entire thing is about converting Gears from a standard 720p running on a 16:9 widescreen TV, to a lower-resolution 4:3 standard screen TV.

The topic creator self-owned himself, by attempting to use rendering for different TVs as "proof" that Gears runs at less than 720p by default

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#16 musicalmac  Moderator
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:roll:Whydontyouthinkaboutwhatrenderingwith25%lesspixelsdoesforthegame:|

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Yes and PS3 does dual 1080P at 120 FPS. What's your point?Arsuz

Don't forget 4D graphics.

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i don't carethemagicbum9720

Wow 3 words just > all what this guy said. Gears looks great.

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#19 Wemhim256
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Did anybody even bother reading the link?

The entire thing is about converting Gears fromstandard 720p running on a16:9 widescreen TV, to a lower-resolution 4:3 standard resolution TV.

The topic creator self-owned himself, by attempting to use rendering for different TVs as "proof" that Gears runs at less than 720p by default

SpaceMatt
And that is why I really need to actually READ links that fanboys post, rather than just ya know, believe they actually have reading comprehention. Well, good, makes my 360 pwn more.
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#20 Wemhim256
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all of those games are for hardcores, gears is aimed at casual. maybe all 3 put together Might outsell gears, but im willing to bet that gears2 would outsell all 3 put together.

Utensilman
Indeed, however, they're all good GOTY candidates, well maybe not GT5.
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#21 Brettheman12
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I don't understand your post. You bash the 360 for not having "true" HD, but in your sig, you say that the PS3 has less than half the power of the 360.
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BS, they're talking about running the game through VGA aren't they?

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So much self ownage tonight! did people lose there brains on the way here or is this place just full of idiots now :roll:
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[QUOTE="V_Isle"]

Almost as funny as the fact that no PS3 exclusive will ever score as high, sell as well, or ever come close to GOTY! :lol:

Wemhim256

The MGS series is known to be pretty big actually... Whether or not you like it, it's a major game, as well as FFXIII.

MGS is not a huge seller, and has never been a system-seller. GT on the other hand...

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[QUOTE="Utensilman"]

all of those games are for hardcores, gears is aimed at casual. maybe all 3 put together Might outsell gears, but im willing to bet that gears2 would outsell all 3 put together.

Wemhim256

Indeed, however, they're all good GOTY candidates, well maybe not GT5.

i didn't say that they weren't GOTY candidates, i was just pointing out that they wouldn't outsell Gears of War.

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#26 SpaceMatt
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BS, they're talking about running the game through VGA aren't they?

inertk

They're talking about running the game letterboxed on 4:3 standard TVs, and on 5:4 1280x1024 VGA-connected PC monitors.

Different renderings for different TVs. Not a less-than 720p standard resolution

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#27 Wemhim256
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[QUOTE="Wemhim256"][QUOTE="Utensilman"]

all of those games are for hardcores, gears is aimed at casual. maybe all 3 put together Might outsell gears, but im willing to bet that gears2 would outsell all 3 put together.

Utensilman

Indeed, however, they're all good GOTY candidates, well maybe not GT5.

i didn't say that they weren't GOTY candidates, i was just pointing out that they wouldn't outsell Gears of War.

I agree.
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Where did TC go?
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#29 SpaceMatt
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Where did TC go?SpruceCaboose

Tried to post flame bait, realized he self-owned himself, and ran for the hills would be my guess

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[QUOTE="Wemhim256"][QUOTE="V_Isle"]

Almost as funny as the fact that no PS3 exclusive will ever score as high, sell as well, or ever come close to GOTY! :lol:

Dreams-Visions

The MGS series is known to be pretty big actually... Whether or not you like it, it's a major game, as well as FFXIII.

MGS is not a huge seller, and has never been a system-seller. GT on the other hand...

How much does a game have to sell to be considered a huge seller to you?

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Yeah all PS3 games run at 60 FPS, and look better than their 360 counterparts:roll:
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[QUOTE="Arsuz"]Yes and PS3 does dual 1080P at 120 FPS. What's your point?ball_of_air

Don't forget 4D graphics.

4D refer to the motion sensing in the sixaxis not graphics.

And the 360 can process dual 1080p@120fps too, and much more if you're rendering just a couple pixels and no physics or particle effects. It all depends on what you're rendering and how you're allocating you're resources.

TC: What's the source of the info? Link?

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Sure a few do, bioshock doesnt. /THREAD
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reading comprehension ftl.
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This was a fun thread! Thanks everyone!
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[QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="V_Isle"]

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]:lol: 360 HAS to render games ata lower resolusion then 720p to get decent performance :lol:

It then lets its built in scaler upscale the games into720p giving the FALSE impression that 360 is rendering games at
1280x720p but its not its often ALOT lower. :lol:

GeOW for example is rendered at 960x720, i meen 960x720? WTF? Hardly the HD-Era that Microsoft promished :lol:

Dont beleive me? He's the quote from the DEVELOPERS - Link

960x720=691,200pixels

1280x720=921,600 pixels

Thats a 25% difference, yes thats right gears is being rendered with 25% LESS pixels so EPIC could keep a decent framerate :lol:

And it still did'nt work because Gears still has framerate issue's :lol:

Theres ALOT more games then Gears that do it, have a Here

Xenos :lol:Utensilman

Almost as funny as the fact that no PS3 exclusive will ever score as high, sell as well, or ever come close to GOTY! :lol:

Just because his post was dumb doesn't it mean you have to outdumb him. MGS4,FFXIII and GT5 will outsell GeOW by a large margin.

all of those games are for hardcores, gears is aimed at casual. maybe all 3 put together Might outsell gears, but im willing to bet that gears2 would outsell all 3 put together.

Lol! GT5 is more mainstream than Gears. And MGS2 sold 7 million,FFX sold 8 million and GT3 sold 10 million. say what?

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#37 azad_champ
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[QUOTE="azad_champ"]

Just because his post was dumb doesn't it mean you have to outdumb him.

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That might be the best line ever typed on SW! Congrats! :D

Thanks. I like your avvy(:

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^

GT5 hasn't sold any copies yet. don't compare it to games that are already on the market. Given the number of PS3's out there, GT5 will have a hard time eclipsing Gears of War sales. I'd assume Gears is nearing 5 million copies sold to 11 or 12 million consoles? something like that? Relatively speaking, that's a lot of copies. I don't expect GT5 to sell to over 50% of the PS3 userbase next year...do you?

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#39 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="azad_champ"]

Just because his post was dumb doesn't it mean you have to outdumb him.

azad_champ

That might be the best line ever typed on SW! Congrats! :D

Thanks. I like your avvy(:

get a room, lovebirds :P

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Self ownage makes my day better :)
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[QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="azad_champ"]

Just because his post was dumb doesn't it mean you have to outdumb him.

Dreams-Visions

That might be the best line ever typed on SW! Congrats! :D

Thanks. I like your avvy(:

get a room, lovebirds :P

Got one!

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#42 inoperativeRS
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And still all multiplat devs that have commented on the strenght of the ps3 and 360 have given the 360 the edge when it comes to the GPU.