360 Could Win Sales The Next 2 Holiday Years and Sony Still Wins.

The first Xbox was an utter failure if not for Halo, but the system was still replaced 4 years after it's release, and all these 360 price drops that you guy's are so proud of, simply means that the 360 is getting cheaper to make, and pretty soon it won't even be worth the cost it takes to manufacture it.

PS3nut

:?Someone needs to stop and think for a few seconds.

The Bluray will never be allowed to be in a MS product since Sony owns the rights to BR movies. Cause then people could play a Sony product in their xbox's. The PS3 is alrady better than the Wii or 360; it has a way-way lower failure rate, it has better hardware period, it has free online gameplay and service, it uses all brands of HDDs for cheaper upgrading, and comes with rechargable controllers. It's simple it costs more and is a better system. The others cost less and are less hardwarewise etc. A lamborghini costs more than most other cars and is a better machine is why. patriots7672

Someone seems to be drinking to much of the Sony Kool-Aidrybe1025

Someone is living in the past, actually. Living of former glories and ignoring reality. Can that be too healthy?

The Bluray will never be allowed to be in a MS product since Sony owns the rights to BR movies. Cause then people could play a Sony product in their xbox's. The PS3 is alrady better than the Wii or 360; it has a way-way lower failure rate, it has better hardware period, it has free online gameplay and service, it uses all brands of HDDs for cheaper upgrading, and comes with rechargable controllers. It's simple it costs more and is a better system. The others cost less and are less hardwarewise etc. A lamborghini costs more than most other cars and is a better machine is why. patriots7672

you wasted your time with that post

The Bluray will never be allowed to be in a MS product since Sony owns the rights to BR movies. Cause then people could play a Sony product in their xbox's. The PS3 is alrady better than the Wii or 360; it has a way-way lower failure rate, it has better hardware period, it has free online gameplay and service, it uses all brands of HDDs for cheaper upgrading, and comes with rechargable controllers. It's simple it costs more and is a better system. The others cost less and are less hardwarewise etc. A lamborghini costs more than most other cars and is a better machine is why. patriots7672

Wow...the Sony PR machine did a number on this guy. It comes with rechargable controllers? LMFAO

I dont know if it will win, it all hangs on when sony does the price drop really.

Though even though I have both consoles even if MS wins sales wise I think that ps3 gamers will be the real winners here, if KZ2 is a sign of things to come I think the ps3 will come out with the best looking, and some of the best games.

I never said the PS3 architecture was easy to master, it's not, it's much harder to program for than the 360, mostly because the 360's architecture is very similar to that of a PC and that's what most games are developed on, so of course the 360 will be easier to develop for, but it doesn't mean it's the preference, if i may use an analogy here :

It's like in the movie the Matrix, in the beginning Neo was told he was the one, but didn't quite believe it or had any kind of power over the Matrix, as with the first generation of PS3 games, they looked inferior to 360 titles in almost every way, because dev's were'nt familiar with the architecture :

In the scene on the roof when Neo dodges bullets for the first time at the same speed the agents do, he begins to understand more about the Matrix and manipulating the rules. The second generation of PS3 games are looking equal to 360, because dev's had a years time to familiarize themselves with the architecture :

Now we are at the scene where Neo and Trinity are attempting to rescue Morpheus and Neo has gained confidence and mastered his martial arts ,and after rescuing Morpheus, slows the explosion of the helicopter into the building so trinity can escape.

Now were approaching PS3's 3rd gen of gaming and titles like Killzone 2 and God of War 3 are exceeding 360 games in graphical performance :

Finally at the end when Neo comes alive and easily defeats the agent and for warns the machines that he is waiting for them and fly's off in the Matrix world, then we will see dev's everywhere unlocking the full potential of the PS3 and everyone will be amazed at what the PS3 can do.,

PS3nut

...wow

Is it going to bend spoons too? we will see I guess.

But you sure made me feel special for a moment. I'm glad I own the one.

:lol: :lol:

OMG....I love coming to SW and reading the meltdown from cows! Makes my day every time

You 360 fanboys just don't get it, the PS2 is approaching the 10 year mark with the same original hardware and it's still kickin' butt to this day.

Now the PS3 is 10 times more better equipped with hardware specs than PS2 and it will out last every console on the market just like it's predecessor.

The first Xbox was an utter failure if not for Halo, but the system was still replaced 4 years after it's release, and all these 360 price drops that you guy's are so proud of, simply means that the 360 is getting cheaper to make, and pretty soon it won't even be worth the cost it takes to manufacture it.

Therefore Microsoft will announce it's successor to be released i'm sure by 2010, and i bet they put in the Blu-Ray drive, and then you'll have to spend another 4 to $500 bucks on their latest incarnation, and probably a hiked up Xbox Live fee as well and ya' better pray they learned from their RROD mistakes.

How ever our beloved PS3 will still be able to hold up to the 360's next incarnation and we'll all be home enjoying our free online play while you guy's are freezing your butts off all night on store lines only to shell out more money for Microsofts pockets.

The PS3 is in it for the long haul and not done by a long shot so you 360 boys tell yourselves what ever you want to help you sleep at night.

PS3nut

2010 is not a guarunteed release date for the next Xbox. 2011 seems more likely with how well 360 is doing. But just for arguments sake, we'll say Xbox 720 comes out in 2010. Are you saying that you really believe that PS3, by then being 5 year old hardware** will be able to still be able to compare to much newer hardware (X720) in graphics, physics, and all the other aspects of game engines and chipset technologies?

Please tell me that's not what you meant :|

** yes PS3 released in 2006 but was delayed by Blu Ray diode manufacturing shortages - the CPU and GPU architecture was manufactured in 05

[QUOTE="PS3nut"]

I never said the PS3 architecture was easy to master, it's not, it's much harder to program for than the 360, mostly because the 360's architecture is very similar to that of a PC and that's what most games are developed on, so of course the 360 will be easier to develop for, but it doesn't mean it's the preference, if i may use an analogy here :

It's like in the movie the Matrix, in the beginning Neo was told he was the one, but didn't quite believe it or had any kind of power over the Matrix, as with the first generation of PS3 games, they looked inferior to 360 titles in almost every way, because dev's were'nt familiar with the architecture :

In the scene on the roof when Neo dodges bullets for the first time at the same speed the agents do, he begins to understand more about the Matrix and manipulating the rules. The second generation of PS3 games are looking equal to 360, because dev's had a years time to familiarize themselves with the architecture :

Now we are at the scene where Neo and Trinity are attempting to rescue Morpheus and Neo has gained confidence and mastered his martial arts ,and after rescuing Morpheus, slows the explosion of the helicopter into the building so trinity can escape.

Now were approaching PS3's 3rd gen of gaming and titles like Killzone 2 and God of War 3 are exceeding 360 games in graphical performance :

Finally at the end when Neo comes alive and easily defeats the agent and for warns the machines that he is waiting for them and fly's off in the Matrix world, then we will see dev's everywhere unlocking the full potential of the PS3 and everyone will be amazed at what the PS3 can do.,

killerfist

...wow

Is it going to bend spoons too? we will see I guess.

But you sure made me feel special for a moment. I'm glad I own the one.

[QUOTE="PS3nut"]

I never said the PS3 architecture was easy to master, it's not, it's much harder to program for than the 360, mostly because the 360's architecture is very similar to that of a PC and that's what most games are developed on, so of course the 360 will be easier to develop for, but it doesn't mean it's the preference, if i may use an analogy here :

It's like in the movie the Matrix, in the beginning Neo was told he was the one, but didn't quite believe it or had any kind of power over the Matrix, as with the first generation of PS3 games, they looked inferior to 360 titles in almost every way, because dev's were'nt familiar with the architecture :

In the scene on the roof when Neo dodges bullets for the first time at the same speed the agents do, he begins to understand more about the Matrix and manipulating the rules. The second generation of PS3 games are looking equal to 360, because dev's had a years time to familiarize themselves with the architecture :

Now we are at the scene where Neo and Trinity are attempting to rescue Morpheus and Neo has gained confidence and mastered his martial arts ,and after rescuing Morpheus, slows the explosion of the helicopter into the building so trinity can escape.

Now were approaching PS3's 3rd gen of gaming and titles like Killzone 2 and God of War 3 are exceeding 360 games in graphical performance :

Finally at the end when Neo comes alive and easily defeats the agent and for warns the machines that he is waiting for them and fly's off in the Matrix world, then we will see dev's everywhere unlocking the full potential of the PS3 and everyone will be amazed at what the PS3 can do.,

killerfist

...wow

Is it going to bend spoons too? we will see I guess.

But you sure made me feel special for a moment. I'm glad I own the one.

Note: I've left the Wii out of this as I consider in a different class the PS3 and 360, not better, not worse, just different.

Ok some recently posted evidence on this very website indicates that at the moment Microsoft are selling the 360 for no profit and no loss. However, when you sell 8.5million Halo 3s you make a hefty chunk of money back.

MS have also just launched a newer version of the 360, that has got to be helping with their costs.

Lastly for this bit MS charge for XBox Live - it costs to run it and so they charge for it.

Sony even selling the PS3 for £120 more in the UK than the 360 pro version, are making a loss on the PS3. However, to a certain degree the continued sales of PS2s and PS2 software helps to soften that blow.

PS3's online is free, however, it costs Sony money to run.

All this leads to the fact that at some point Sony will no longer be able to keep subsidising the PS3 so either they keep trying to make it cheaper to manufacture or they have to keep their price up.

£300 or £180 what would you pay for a next gen console

So Microsoft are making bucks out of the 360 and Sony are not out of the PS3 why would you think that MS will drop the 360?

Ok next point - Resistance 2 has just come out on the PS3 it has some lovely panoramic shots but when it comes down to it it's an ok looking ok playing shooter - and that's the best exclusive on PS3???

All of the games I've seen that have come out on PS3 and XBox and have been compared, the PS3 has lost in comparison, whether it's jaggies, frame rates, resolution whatever, nearly everytime it looses.

Want some specifcs again on this very website you can find this info, Fallout 3 - better on 360, GTAIV - better on 360 need I go on?

Oh and can you remember the PS2 being touted as the emotion engine and how amazing it would be - just how much better than a DC was it in the end?

[QUOTE="st1ka"]microsoft said no new xbox until 2011-2012... and as for the rest.... PC's already do more then the PS3 could ever dream of... so noSemiMaster

You have no real idea about what either company is really doing

Fact

(same with everyone else here)

You 360 fanboys just don't get it, the PS2 is approaching the 10 year mark with the same original hardware and it's still kickin' butt to this day.

Now the PS3 is 10 times more better equipped with hardware specs than PS2 and it will out last every console on the market just like it's predecessor.

The first Xbox was an utter failure if not for Halo, but the system was still replaced 4 years after it's release, and all these 360 price drops that you guy's are so proud of, simply means that the 360 is getting cheaper to make, and pretty soon it won't even be worth the cost it takes to manufacture it.

Therefore Microsoft will announce it's successor to be released i'm sure by 2010, and i bet they put in the Blu-Ray drive, and then you'll have to spend another 4 to $500 bucks on their latest incarnation, and probably a hiked up Xbox Live fee as well and ya' better pray they learned from their RROD mistakes.

How ever our beloved PS3 will still be able to hold up to the 360's next incarnation and we'll all be home enjoying our free online play while you guy's are freezing your butts off all night on store lines only to shell out more money for Microsofts pockets.

The PS3 is in it for the long haul and not done by a long shot so you 360 boys tell yourselves what ever you want to help you sleep at night.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]microsoft said no new xbox until 2011-2012... and as for the rest.... PC's already do more then the PS3 could ever dream of... so noSemiMaster

Sony Considers Cell For PS4

Sony Starting PS4 Software Development

We problaby won't see a clear winner between Xbox 360 and PS3 until Sony can get PS3 down to $200.

The Bluray will never be allowed to be in a MS product since Sony owns the rights to BR movies. Cause then people could play a Sony product in their xbox's. The PS3 is alrady better than the Wii or 360; it has a way-way lower failure rate, it has better hardware period, it has free online gameplay and service, it uses all brands of HDDs for cheaper upgrading, and comes with rechargable controllers. It's simple it costs more and is a better system. The others cost less and are less hardwarewise etc. A lamborghini costs more than most other cars and is a better machine is why. patriots7672

"A closed mouth gathers no foot."

This is an idiom you would do well to remember after this post because it's clear you have no idea what you're talking about and thus, shouldn't be talking about it.

Sony does not hold exclusive licensing rights to Blu Ray. In fact, they are but one of eighteen members that sit on the Board of Directors of the Blu Ray Disc Association. If Microsoft petitions them for the licensing rights to Blu Ray and Sony refuses, they can still be overruled by the other seventeen members of the BDA.

You 360 fanboys just don't get it, the PS2 is approaching the 10 year mark with the same original hardware and it's still kickin' butt to this day.

Now the PS3 is 10 times more better equipped with hardware specs than PS2 and it will out last every console on the market just like it's predecessor.

The first Xbox was an utter failure if not for Halo, but the system was still replaced 4 years after it's release, and all these 360 price drops that you guy's are so proud of, simply means that the 360 is getting cheaper to make, and pretty soon it won't even be worth the cost it takes to manufacture it.

Therefore Microsoft will announce it's successor to be released i'm sure by 2010, and i bet they put in the Blu-Ray drive, and then you'll have to spend another 4 to $500 bucks on their latest incarnation, and probably a hiked up Xbox Live fee as well and ya' better pray they learned from their RROD mistakes.

How ever our beloved PS3 will still be able to hold up to the 360's next incarnation and we'll all be home enjoying our free online play while you guy's are freezing your butts off all night on store lines only to shell out more money for Microsofts pockets.

The PS3 is in it for the long haul and not done by a long shot so you 360 boys tell yourselves what ever you want to help you sleep at night.

The Bluray will never be allowed to be in a MS product since Sony owns the rights to BR movies. Cause then people could play a Sony product in their xbox's. The PS3 is alrady better than the Wii or 360; it has a way-way lower failure rate, it has better hardware period, it has free online gameplay and service, it uses all brands of HDDs for cheaper upgrading, and comes with rechargable controllers. It's simple it costs more and is a better system. The others cost less and are less hardwarewise etc. A lamborghini costs more than most other cars and is a better machine is why. patriots7672

[QUOTE="BIOWAREISKING"][QUOTE="360-ps3-wii-pc"] I would say that too if my favorite system was selling in last place. PS3nut

microsoft said no new xbox until 2011-2012... and as for the rest.... PC's already do more then the PS3 could ever dream of... so nost1ka

since when is the pc a console