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4. If the last gen proved anything, it's that graphical power isn't a major selling point for consoles. Cause if it were, the PS2 would not have outsold the more powerful XBox or GCN. And as for price... well, I hate to break it to you, but the 360 already sells for less than the Wii in many regions. And yet it's still being outsold even in these places.
4. If the last gen proved anything, it's that graphical power isn't a major selling point for consoles. Cause if it were, the PS2 would not have outsold the more powerful XBox or GCN. And as for price... well, I hate to break it to you, but the 360 already sells for less than the Wii in many regions. And yet it's still being outsold even in these places.
ThePlothole
agreed, price is not a factor..the more expensive PS3 is currently selling more than the cheaper 360 and theres no way the 360 can even match the sales of the wii, maybe if it was half the price of the wii
1. The best new IPs. 10 years from now people are still going to remember Mass Effect and Gears. will people remember Uncharted and Little Kings story? I don't think so.
2. Online that will actually let me play with my friends. PS3 doesn't have it, as none of my friends have ps3s. Yeah PSN is free, but I would be wandering around aimlessly playing strangers in call of duty.
3. Gimmick Free. The classic console, controllers and box, dvd drive and all. There is nothing wrong with innovation, but leave that to developers, and let them innovate gameplay.
4. The best graphics, soon at the cheapest price. The 50 dollar price drop should bring the core below the price of the wii, and while I would go for a pro personally, you can still put GTAIV, Halo or gears into a core and play it just fine.
5. Variety. Its funny how things change. Last gen xbox was criticized for having the least variety, this gen it has unarguably the most. Wii is party games, PS3 is third person adventures. Sure PS3 has some promising shooters and RPGS on the horizon, but haze was a promising shooter at one point.
So love it hate it, those are the facts.
marmadukefan
You gave some valid reasons but 2, 3 and 5 don't qualify.
Just because your friends don't have PS3's doesn't mean that tons of PS3 owners out there don't have friends with PS3's.
I'm gonna knock down #3 just because PS3 falls in the same catogory, more or less. You're also confusing gimmicks and real innovation. You cannot call the Wii (I'm assuming you mean the Wii) gimmicky as a whole console. Yes, there are games that make the controls seem gimmicky but there are others that make it seem very innovative and a step forward in the videogame industry.
Variety? Ok I'll take the shot you took at PS3. But the Wii is one of the most varied console. There top games include: 3D platformer, FPS, action-adventure, adventure, racing, puzzles, and then of course there're the party games. Most of which by the way are exclusive titles and at range from AAE to AAAE.
But overall this thread fails at trying to claim the Xbox won this gen. For every valid reason you give me about why the Xbox is so great, I can give you 2 as to why it's not going to win anything.
The only thing people will remember when the 360 is brought up 10 years from now will be the RROD.BlackificationAnd Halo. :P
You didn't really have to write all that, all you had to do is type this and it'll have the same affect or even a better affect.
360 > Wii > PS3
And Halo. :P[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Blackification"]The only thing people will remember when the 360 is brought up 10 years from now will be the RROD.caligamer
LOL...1 game HALO..even master chief cant save the 360
Wait... since when does the Xbox 360 need saving? :?[QUOTE="caligamer"]And Halo. :P[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Blackification"]The only thing people will remember when the 360 is brought up 10 years from now will be the RROD.Stevo_the_gamer
LOL...1 game HALO..even master chief cant save the 360
Wait... since when does the Xbox 360 need saving? :?Since it started getting outsold by the more expensive PS3
The PS3 has to sell nearly 9 to 10 million units to pass the Xbox 360. And that's if the Xbox 360 didn't sell another single unit ever! :?Since it started getting outsold by the more expensive PS3
caligamer
[QUOTE="caligamer"]The PS3 has to sell nearly 9 to 10 million units to pass the Xbox 360. And that's if the Xbox 360 didn't sell another single unit ever! :?Since it started getting outsold by the more expensive PS3
Stevo_the_gamer
9-10 million????? where did you learn to do math
Xbox 360: ~19.54 Million Units Sold. PS3: ~13.84 Million Units Sold
thats a difference of 5.7 million, almost half of your 9-10million extimate, 5.71 mill to pass 360
its okay i can tell math is not your strong point
http://www.vgchartz.com/?dg=1
1. The best new IPs. 10 years from now people are still going to remember Mass Effect and Gears. will people remember Uncharted and Little Kings story? I don't think so. - Mass Effect and Gears? You mean multiplatform titles?
2. Online that will actually let me play with my friends. PS3 doesn't have it, as none of my friends have ps3s. Yeah PSN is free, but I would be wandering around aimlessly playing strangers in call of duty. - So you = The world. Just because your friends don't have a PS3 means that the whole world's friends don't have PS3s? :roll:
3. Gimmick Free. The ****c console, controllers and box, dvd drive and all. There is nothing wrong with innovation, but leave that to developers, and let them innovate gameplay. - Gimmick controls? Wii controller and SIXAXIS motion? Okay! Sure! Uh, did I mention there are strong signs of M$ introducing motion sensing on their console with the new Banjo game?
4. The best graphics, soon at the cheapest price. The 50 dollar price drop should bring the core below the price of the wii, and while I would go for a pro personally, you can still put GTAIV, Halo or gears into a core and play it just fine. - Best graphics? Killzone 2 and Uncharted say hi! Hell, even Lair, a game that flopped hard, had great graphics. The only thing it missed was controls.
5. Variety. Its funny how things change. Last gen xbox was criticized for having the least variety, this gen it has unarguably the most. Wii is party games, PS3 is third person adventures. Sure PS3 has some promising shooters and RPGS on the horizon, but haze was a promising shooter at one point. - You failed to mention the variety on the 360. Is it racers? GT5 and GT5: P. Is it platformers? Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (even though it got a 7.5 here, you mention that 360 won the generation, so right now, I'm talking about overall.). Is it adventure games? Uncharted. Is it shooters? SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs, Resistance 2, Killzone 2. Is it creative new IPs? LittleBigPlanet. Is it RPGs? FF 13, White Knight Story.
So love it hate it, those are the facts.
marmadukefan
Even though some games I mentioned aren't out yet, you're talking about the generation here, so those games are within release of this generation. Go find something better to do pal.
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="caligamer"]The PS3 has to sell nearly 9 to 10 million units to pass the Xbox 360. And that's if the Xbox 360 didn't sell another single unit ever! :?Since it started getting outsold by the more expensive PS3
caligamer
9-10 million????? where did you learn to do math
Xbox 360: ~19.54 Million Units Sold. PS3: ~13.84 Million Units Sold
thats a difference of 5.7 million, almost half of your 9-10million extimate, 5.71 mill to pass 360
its okay i can tell math is not your strong point
http://www.vgchartz.com/?dg=1
You discredited yourself using vgchartz. Everybody here knows their numbers are sorely inaccurate. Using vgcharts is pretty much the equivelant of relying on wishful thinking.
Seriously, what's with all these people talking about PS3 crushing X360 when it still hasn't passed it in world sales??
[QUOTE="caligamer"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="caligamer"]The PS3 has to sell nearly 9 to 10 million units to pass the Xbox 360. And that's if the Xbox 360 didn't sell another single unit ever! :?Since it started getting outsold by the more expensive PS3
AdobeArtist
9-10 million????? where did you learn to do math
Xbox 360: ~19.54 Million Units Sold. PS3: ~13.84 Million Units Sold
thats a difference of 5.7 million, almost half of your 9-10million extimate, 5.71 mill to pass 360
its okay i can tell math is not your strong point
http://www.vgchartz.com/?dg=1
You discredited yourself using vgchartz. Everybody here knows their numbers are sorely inaccurate. Using vgcharts is pretty much the equivelant of relying on wishful thinking.
Seriously, what's with all these people talking about PS3 crushing X360 when it still hasn't passed it in world sales??
Give me access to all worldwide numbers and I can prove the same thing he did without VGChartz. Please, we all know the 360 is being outsold currently everywhere, including North America.
1. The best new IPs. 10 years from now people are still going to remember Mass Effect and Gears. will people remember Uncharted and Little Kings story? I don't think so.
marmadukefan
Conveniently forgetting:
SMG, MP3, Z:TP, RE4, SSBB, and Z&W
are we?
[QUOTE="marmadukefan"]1. The best new IPs. 10 years from now people are still going to remember Mass Effect and Gears. will people remember Uncharted and Little Kings story? I don't think so.
Shadow_of_Kirby
Conveniently forgetting:
SMG, MP3, Z:TP, RE4, SSBB, and Z&W
are we?
As much as I disagree with TC prematurely declaring 360 the generation winner (just as I disagree with sonyfans prematurely declaring 360 beaten by PS3), to be fair, that first point is about NEW IP's, not sequels to series that have been around (in some cases) since the rebirth of gaming in '84.
You have a solid complaint about the online, it sucks because you have no friends to play with.wooooode
I was wondering when someone was going to post that.
Well, I like the 360. But honestly, the game I think everyone will be talking about 10 years from now will be LittleBigPlanet.dabearBut for the past few years everyoens been takling about Gears of war, Mass Effect, Bioshock (finally coming to PS3) and Gears of war 2. Something tells me Little Big PLanet won't be on anyones list 10 years from now, and neither will any of those titles I mentioned. 10 years from now people will be talking about games coming for the next generation, or possibly even the generation AFTER next.
1. Never heard of Little Kigs Story and ME would be remembered for it's bugs. I would only remember Gears and Uncharted 10 years from now.1. The best new IPs. 10 years from now people are still going to remember Mass Effect and Gears. will people remember Uncharted and Little Kings story? I don't think so.
2. Online that will actually let me play with my friends. PS3 doesn't have it, as none of my friends have ps3s. Yeah PSN is free, but I would be wandering around aimlessly playing strangers in call of duty.
3. Gimmick Free. The classic console, controllers and box, dvd drive and all. There is nothing wrong with innovation, but leave that to developers, and let them innovate gameplay.
4. The best graphics, soon at the cheapest price. The 50 dollar price drop should bring the core below the price of the wii, and while I would go for a pro personally, you can still put GTAIV, Halo or gears into a core and play it just fine.
5. Variety. Its funny how things change. Last gen xbox was criticized for having the least variety, this gen it has unarguably the most. Wii is party games, PS3 is third person adventures. Sure PS3 has some promising shooters and RPGS on the horizon, but haze was a promising shooter at one point.
So love it hate it, those are the facts.
marmadukefan
Those are not facts, those are opinions.
microsoft r teh uber noob, unly amerkuns like it as dey can sit on dere obesity asses and play the noobzor hlotriplets with uber leet grfx... hahaha
u only like teh 360 bcuz u r too fat for the wii as 89% amerkuns are obese, thats ova 1.5 billion fat amerkuns who have teh 360 with teh rrod.
360 nly pwns wii as soo muny ppl r too unfitzor tu play wiifit.
cortz
I had to read this post a couple of times as I can see english is not your first language (and there is nothing wrong with that), but a lot of what you posted is sadly a fact. There are so many over weight americans that it's becoming a major problem.
[QUOTE="cortz"]microsoft r teh uber noob, unly amerkuns like it as dey can sit on dere obesity asses and play the noobzor hlotriplets with uber leet grfx... hahaha
u only like teh 360 bcuz u r too fat for the wii as 89% amerkuns are obese, thats ova 1.5 billion fat amerkuns who have teh 360 with teh rrod.
360 nly pwns wii as soo muny ppl r too unfitzor tu play wiifit.
jimm895
I had to read this post a couple of times as I can see english is not your first language (and there is nothing wrong with that), but a lot of what you posted is sadly a fact. There are so many over weight americans that it's becoming a major problem.
That's the second anti-American post he's made this morning. If he hates Americans so much I guess he should leave this website and stop making failed attempts at the English language.
[QUOTE="Blackification"]The only thing people will remember when the 360 is brought up 10 years from now will be the RROD.Stevo_the_gamerAnd Halo. :PYa, and how much of a dissapointment it was.
[QUOTE="jimm895"][QUOTE="cortz"]microsoft r teh uber noob, unly amerkuns like it as dey can sit on dere obesity asses and play the noobzor hlotriplets with uber leet grfx... hahaha
u only like teh 360 bcuz u r too fat for the wii as 89% amerkuns are obese, thats ova 1.5 billion fat amerkuns who have teh 360 with teh rrod.
360 nly pwns wii as soo muny ppl r too unfitzor tu play wiifit.
carljohnson3456
I had to read this post a couple of times as I can see english is not your first language (and there is nothing wrong with that), but a lot of what you posted is sadly a fact. There are so many over weight americans that it's becoming a major problem.
That's the second anti-American post he's made this morning. If he hates Americans so much I guess he should leave this website and stop making failed attempts at the English language.
Don't pay him any attention. He just hates our freedomz.Wow, i'm speechless.:|1. The best new IPs. 10 years from now people are still going to remember Mass Effect and Gears. will people remember Uncharted and Little Kings story? I don't think so.
2. Online that will actually let me play with my friends. PS3 doesn't have it, as none of my friends have ps3s. Yeah PSN is free, but I would be wandering around aimlessly playing strangers in call of duty.
3. Gimmick Free. The classic console, controllers and box, dvd drive and all. There is nothing wrong with innovation, but leave that to developers, and let them innovate gameplay.
4. The best graphics, soon at the cheapest price. The 50 dollar price drop should bring the core below the price of the wii, and while I would go for a pro personally, you can still put GTAIV, Halo or gears into a core and play it just fine.
5. Variety. Its funny how things change. Last gen xbox was criticized for having the least variety, this gen it has unarguably the most. Wii is party games, PS3 is third person adventures. Sure PS3 has some promising shooters and RPGS on the horizon, but haze was a promising shooter at one point.
So love it hate it, those are the facts.
marmadukefan
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