360 has no exclusives for 2011.Really?

PS3 has 2 AAA already:

LBP2

KZ3

Yeah I don't care about the reviews KZ3 deserves AAA

PS3 has 2 AAA already:

LBP2

KZ3

Yeah I don't care about the reviews KZ3 deserves AAA

charlesdarwin55

That's brilliant. 360 has 11 AAAAE already. I don't care about reviews.

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

PS3 has 2 AAA already:

LBP2

KZ3

Yeah I don't care about the reviews KZ3 deserves AAA

waltefmoney

That's brilliant. 360 has 11 AAAAE already. I don't care about reviews.

360 hasn't even released a game this year to be reviewed(lol) so that really is a poor example. Heil68

I'm not talking about this year alone. But yeah, this year it only has 3 upcoming AAAAE's(Gears 3, Forza 4 and The Gunstringer).

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="ralphster"]

Gears of War 3-AAA

Forza 4-AAA

Halo Anniversary-AAA

Dance Central 2-AAA

Rise of Nightmares-AA

Kinect Sports 2-AA

Gunstringer-possible AAA

Disneyland Adventures-A

And there's all the multiplats.It looks like a pretty good line-up.

CaseyWegner

I would add Witcher 2, that technically is not exclusive, but PS3 and Wii dont get it, while 360 will get it this holiday and is a really really huge game

Also Bastion is a grand RPG and until it comes to PC later in 2011, is only to be found on 360 too, i have a real blast with it

Also add Trenched and Half Minute Hero Mega Neo, both great games

I am playing 360 non stop this year and the biggest games are not even out yet

it's "literally" not an exclusive.

Technically, none of those Kinect games are 360 exclusive either.

dance central 2? kinect sports 2? disneyland adventures? im begging to think this is a joke thread

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I would add Witcher 2, that technically is not exclusive, but PS3 and Wii dont get it, while 360 will get it this holiday and is a really really huge game

Also Bastion is a grand RPG and until it comes to PC later in 2011, is only to be found on 360 too, i have a real blast with it

Also add Trenched and Half Minute Hero Mega Neo, both great games

I am playing 360 non stop this year and the biggest games are not even out yet

Filthybastrd

it's "literally" not an exclusive.

Technically, none of those Kinect games are 360 exclusive either.

what's this now?

[QUOTE="Heil68"]360 hasn't even released a game this year to be reviewed(lol) so that really is a poor example. waltefmoney

I'm not talking about this year alone. But yeah, this year it only has 3 upcoming AAAAE's(Gears 3, Forza 4 and The Gunstringer).

How can kinect games count as just pure 360 exclusives? I mean I have a 360 but I can't play the kinect only games, shouldn't the 360 exclusives only take a 360 to play not a $150 addon? Same thing with move games, maybe a sub category for kinect an move games.

No doubt with tons of Saaaweet XBLA & Indie games to boot and to those making fun of Twisted Pixels Gunstringer as a possible AAAE, pffft, that suckah may get the AAAAE. :shock:

:P

How can kinect games count as just pure 360 exclusives? I mean I have a 360 but I can't play the kinect only games, shouldn't the 360 exclusives only take a 360 to play not a $150 addon? Same thing with move games, maybe a sub category for kinect an move games.

bczigothigh

because they're 360 exclusives? just because you need a seperate peripheral to play them doesn't change that.

[QUOTE="bczigothigh"]

How can kinect games count as just pure 360 exclusives? I mean I have a 360 but I can't play the kinect only games, shouldn't the 360 exclusives only take a 360 to play not a $150 addon? Same thing with move games, maybe a sub category for kinect an move games.

CaseyWegner

because they're 360 exclusives? just because you need a seperate peripheral to play them doesn't change that.

I suppose it's a slightly greay area. Feel free to disagree but they're arguably not 360 exclusive because a 360 can't play them.

Besides, MS markets Kinect as a system themselves.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="bczigothigh"]

How can kinect games count as just pure 360 exclusives? I mean I have a 360 but I can't play the kinect only games, shouldn't the 360 exclusives only take a 360 to play not a $150 addon? Same thing with move games, maybe a sub category for kinect an move games.

Filthybastrd

because they're 360 exclusives? just because you need a seperate peripheral to play them doesn't change that.

I suppose it's a slightly greay area. Feel free to disagree but they're arguably not 360 exclusive because a 360 can't play them.

Besides, MS markets Kinect as a system themselves.

you can't play them without the 360 either but the 360 is capable of playing games without kinect. therefore, kinect is a peripheral and there's no reason not to treat them with the same rights and priveleges as any other game.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

because they're 360 exclusives? just because you need a seperate peripheral to play them doesn't change that.

CaseyWegner

I suppose it's a slightly greay area. Feel free to disagree but they're arguably not 360 exclusive because a 360 can't play them.

Besides, MS markets Kinect as a system themselves.

you can't play them without the 360 either but the 360 is capable of playing games without kinect. therefore, kinect is a peripheral and there's no reason not to treat them with the same rights and priveleges as any other game.

It's not capable of playing Kinect games without Kinect, therefore Kinect games can't be 360 exclusive. Considering how MS wants us to perceive it as a system in itself, this is a borderline case at best/worst.

Very minor technicality, I'm sure you agree.

Gears 3 and Fourza are the only ones in the running for AAA. your grasping at straws this badly doesn't help our opinions of the 360's sinking lineup

It's not capable of playing Kinect games without Kinect, therefore Kinect games can't be 360 exclusive. Considering how MS wants us to perceive it as a system in itself, this is a borderline case at best/worst.

Very minor technicality, I'm sure you agree.

Filthybastrd

the Kinect itself is exclusive to the Xbox 360.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

I suppose it's a slightly greay area. Feel free to disagree but they're arguably not 360 exclusive because a 360 can't play them.

Besides, MS markets Kinect as a system themselves.

Filthybastrd

you can't play them without the 360 either but the 360 is capable of playing games without kinect. therefore, kinect is a peripheral and there's no reason not to treat them with the same rights and priveleges as any other game.

It's not capable of playing Kinect games without Kinect, therefore Kinect games can't be 360 exclusive. Considering how MS wants us to perceive it as a system in itself, this is a borderline case at best/worst.

Very minor technicality, I'm sure you agree.

you can't play standard 360 games without a 360 controller so there must not be any 360 exclusives then? same thing, dude. it's a peripheral device.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you can't play them without the 360 either but the 360 is capable of playing games without kinect. therefore, kinect is a peripheral and there's no reason not to treat them with the same rights and priveleges as any other game.

CaseyWegner

It's not capable of playing Kinect games without Kinect, therefore Kinect games can't be 360 exclusive. Considering how MS wants us to perceive it as a system in itself, this is a borderline case at best/worst.

Very minor technicality, I'm sure you agree.

you can't play standard 360 games without a 360 controller so there must not be any 360 exclusives then? same thing, dude. it's a peripheral device.

Technically you're correct dude, everything is exclusive to a long list of specific atoms, if you really want to nitpick.

Kinect costs almost as much as the 360 itself, is marketed as a gaming system and intended to be perceived as such by MS. I'd hardly compare it to purchasing a new controller but you're welcome to disagree.

I don't really care to be honest, so lets just end it the discussion here ;)

Apologies, The Quick Quote button ate my message, making it look blank.

Anyway, I personally see Dance Central 2 as potential AAA, but on the pedigree of the developer alone, and only with the inclusion of a substantial ammount of improvements. Forza and Gears 3 are also locks for AAA, and Rise of Nightmarehas potential but is the biggest long shot on here. The others are all AA at best.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

It's not capable of playing Kinect games without Kinect, therefore Kinect games can't be 360 exclusive. Considering how MS wants us to perceive it as a system in itself, this is a borderline case at best/worst.

Very minor technicality, I'm sure you agree.

Filthybastrd

you can't play standard 360 games without a 360 controller so there must not be any 360 exclusives then? same thing, dude. it's a peripheral device.

Technically you're correct dude, everything is exclusive to a long list of specific atoms, if you really want to nitpick.

Kinect costs almost as much as the 360 itself, is marketed as a gaming system and intended to be perceived as such by MS. I'd hardly compare it to purchasing a new controller but you're welcome to disagree.

I don't really care to be honest, so lets just end it the discussion here ;)

it is not marketed as its own system. the commercials still show that it's for the 360. it's a peripheral. the extent that people go to to make 360 games not count never ceases to amaze.

I wouldnt be bragging about a game like disneyland adventures. Not my cup of tea.

Technically you're correct dude, everything is exclusive to a long list of specific atoms, if you really want to nitpick.

Kinect costs almost as much as the 360 itself, is marketed as a gaming system and intended to be perceived as such by MS. I'd hardly compare it to purchasing a new controller but you're welcome to disagree.

I don't really care to be honest, so lets just end it the discussion here ;)

Filthybastrd

In NO WAY does MS market Kinect as "its own system". The product is marketed as a new way to control your games ("you are the controller"), more specifically, your Xbox 360 games as every ad states. Like Casey said several times, it's a peripheral that still requires the 360 main unit to operate. Nobody can buy the $150 device by itself, take it home and start playing the games.

This really is a stretch in logic to say they're not 360 exclusive, regardless of how anyone may feel about their quality.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you can't play standard 360 games without a 360 controller so there must not be any 360 exclusives then? same thing, dude. it's a peripheral device.

CaseyWegner

Technically you're correct dude, everything is exclusive to a long list of specific atoms, if you really want to nitpick.

Kinect costs almost as much as the 360 itself, is marketed as a gaming system and intended to be perceived as such by MS. I'd hardly compare it to purchasing a new controller but you're welcome to disagree.

I don't really care to be honest, so lets just end it the discussion here ;)

it is not marketed as its own system. the commercials still show that it's for the 360. it's a peripheral. the extent that people go to to make 360 games not count never ceases to amaze.

But he applied the same principal to the Move games saying those don't really count. Honestly it seems to be 360 that try to throw in a bunch of Kinect games, whereas you almost NEVER see people adding Move games to fluff up their lists of exclusives. For the most part it isn't as if people on here really care about most of these motion games anyway. There are just so few "good" ones...

It does seem to be a "grey area" to me. The other guy said, "well you need a controller to play any game, I guess that doesn't count". The difference is a controller comes standard with the system, it doesn't require a $150 addon!!! It would be different if it were a truly big budget AAA game perhaps, but most of these games get reviewed at entirely different standards. They seem to be held to the same standards as arcade games since most seem to be low budget, almost shovelware type games...

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Technically you're correct dude, everything is exclusive to a long list of specific atoms, if you really want to nitpick.

Kinect costs almost as much as the 360 itself, is marketed as a gaming system and intended to be perceived as such by MS. I'd hardly compare it to purchasing a new controller but you're welcome to disagree.

I don't really care to be honest, so lets just end it the discussion here ;)

2Chalupas

it is not marketed as its own system. the commercials still show that it's for the 360. it's a peripheral. the extent that people go to to make 360 games not count never ceases to amaze.

But he applied the same principal to the Move games saying those don't really count. Honestly it seems to be 360 that try to throw in a bunch of Kinect games, whereas you almost NEVER see people adding Move games to fluff up their lists of exclusives. For the most part it isn't as if people on here really care about most of these motion games anyway. There are just so few "good" ones...

It does seem to be a "grey area" to me. The other guy said, "well you need a controller to play any game, I guess that doesn't count". The difference is a controller comes standard with the system, it doesn't require a $150 addon!!! It would be different if it were a truly big budget AAA game perhaps, but most of these games get reviewed at entirely different standards. They seem to be held to the same standards as arcade games since most seem to be low budget, almost shovelware type games...

do games that require the Wii's classic controller not count?

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Technically you're correct dude, everything is exclusive to a long list of specific atoms, if you really want to nitpick.

Kinect costs almost as much as the 360 itself, is marketed as a gaming system and intended to be perceived as such by MS. I'd hardly compare it to purchasing a new controller but you're welcome to disagree.

I don't really care to be honest, so lets just end it the discussion here ;)

AdobeArtist

In NO WAY does MS market Kinect as "its own system". The product is marketed as a new way to control your games ("you are the controller"), more specifically, your Xbox 360 games as every ad states. Like Casey said several times, it's a peripheral that still requires the 360 main unit to operate. Nobody can buy the $150 device by itself, take it home and start playing the games.

This really is a stretch in logic to say they're not 360 exclusive, regardless of how anyone may feel about their quality.

It's marketed as such in may ways, although not in the strict sense of a phrase such as "its own system".

Marketing is'nt just about litteral interpretation however, and it's abundantly clear that we're supposed to perceive Kinect as a seperate entity and an evolved gaming experience. They're selling us the idea of VR here.

Regardless, you're entitled to your opinion. I don't exactly keep such a topic close to heart so I'll leave it at that.

It's marketed as such in may ways, although not in the strict sense of a phrase such as "its own system".

Marketing is'nt just about litteral interpretation however, and it's abundantly clear that we're supposed to perceive Kinect as a seperate entity and an evolved gaming experience. They're selling us the idea of VR here.

Regardless, you're entitled to your opinion. I don't exactly keep such a topic close to heart so I'll leave it at that.

Filthybastrd

if it was marketed as its own system it would be its own system.

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it is not marketed as its own system. the commercials still show that it's for the 360. it's a peripheral. the extent that people go to to make 360 games not count never ceases to amaze.

-The-G-Man-

But he applied the same principal to the Move games saying those don't really count. Honestly it seems to be 360 that try to throw in a bunch of Kinect games, whereas you almost NEVER see people adding Move games to fluff up their lists of exclusives. For the most part it isn't as if people on here really care about most of these motion games anyway. There are just so few "good" ones...

It does seem to be a "grey area" to me. The other guy said, "well you need a controller to play any game, I guess that doesn't count". The difference is a controller comes standard with the system, it doesn't require a $150 addon!!! It would be different if it were a truly big budget AAA game perhaps, but most of these games get reviewed at entirely different standards. They seem to be held to the same standards as arcade games since most seem to be low budget, almost shovelware type games...

do games that require the Wii's classic controller not count?

Depends, does anything (besides virtual console) REQUIRE classic controller??? If so that would seem to be another "grey area", but considering a classic controller is very cheap (or even bundled with some games), that seems to be very different from the $150 Kinect or Move which are just about as expensive as the Wii itself.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Technically you're correct dude, everything is exclusive to a long list of specific atoms, if you really want to nitpick.

Kinect costs almost as much as the 360 itself, is marketed as a gaming system and intended to be perceived as such by MS. I'd hardly compare it to purchasing a new controller but you're welcome to disagree.

I don't really care to be honest, so lets just end it the discussion here ;)

2Chalupas

it is not marketed as its own system. the commercials still show that it's for the 360. it's a peripheral. the extent that people go to to make 360 games not count never ceases to amaze.

But he applied the same principal to the Move games saying those don't really count. Honestly it seems to be 360 that try to throw in a bunch of Kinect games, whereas you almost NEVER see people adding Move games to fluff up their lists of exclusives. For the most part it isn't as if people on here really care about most of these motion games anyway. There are just so few "good" ones...

It does seem to be a "grey area" to me. The other guy said, "well you need a controller to play any game, I guess that doesn't count". The difference is a controller comes standard with the system, it doesn't require a $150 addon!!! It would be different if it were a truly big budget AAA game perhaps, but most of these games get reviewed at entirely different standards. They seem to be held to the same standards as arcade games since most seem to be low budget, almost shovelware type games...

yes, but i'm including the "old 360 games/games that came out before the ps3" excuses in with that. that one is not reciprocal.

controllers that come standard with and controllers that are sold seperately are not determining factors of whether or not a game counts. it's the system that plays them. the 360 is the system...kinect is the "controller".

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Technically you're correct dude, everything is exclusive to a long list of specific atoms, if you really want to nitpick.

Kinect costs almost as much as the 360 itself, is marketed as a gaming system and intended to be perceived as such by MS. I'd hardly compare it to purchasing a new controller but you're welcome to disagree.

I don't really care to be honest, so lets just end it the discussion here ;)

Filthybastrd

In NO WAY does MS market Kinect as "its own system". The product is marketed as a new way to control your games ("you are the controller"), more specifically, your Xbox 360 games as every ad states. Like Casey said several times, it's a peripheral that still requires the 360 main unit to operate. Nobody can buy the $150 device by itself, take it home and start playing the games.

This really is a stretch in logic to say they're not 360 exclusive, regardless of how anyone may feel about their quality.

It's marketed as such in may ways, although not in the strict sense of a phrase such as "its own system".

Marketing is'nt just about litteral interpretation however, and it's abundantly clear that we're supposed to perceive Kinect as a seperate entity and an evolved gaming experience. They're selling us the idea of VR here.

Regardless, you're entitled to your opinion. I don't exactly keep such a topic close to heart so I'll leave it at that.

no. it is not marketed in such a way. it's marketed as a new way to play the 360. this is not opinion.

Gears of War 3-AAA

Forza 4-AAA

Halo Anniversary-AAA

Dance Central 2-AAA

Rise of Nightmares-AA

Kinect Sports 2-AA

Gunstringer-possible AAA

Disneyland Adventures-A

And there's all the multiplats.It looks like a pretty good line-up.

ralphster

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Don't know about the PC, but the PS3 is far from 30+ exclusives.

bigboss5ak

Hell, I may be a cow but all you really had to do to get your point across was list Gears and Forza dude. But your really listing shovelware games nobody has even heard of. Really? Gunslinger? :lol: Ive never even heard of that before entering this thread.

What 360 exclusives so far this year are worth mentioning? Go ahead, I'll wait.

Gunstringer-possible AAA

ralphster

Possible AAA? really? ok now this thread have lost all sort of credibility.

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

it is not marketed as its own system. the commercials still show that it's for the 360. it's a peripheral. the extent that people go to to make 360 games not count never ceases to amaze.

CaseyWegner

But he applied the same principal to the Move games saying those don't really count. Honestly it seems to be 360 that try to throw in a bunch of Kinect games, whereas you almost NEVER see people adding Move games to fluff up their lists of exclusives. For the most part it isn't as if people on here really care about most of these motion games anyway. There are just so few "good" ones...

It does seem to be a "grey area" to me. The other guy said, "well you need a controller to play any game, I guess that doesn't count". The difference is a controller comes standard with the system, it doesn't require a $150 addon!!! It would be different if it were a truly big budget AAA game perhaps, but most of these games get reviewed at entirely different standards. They seem to be held to the same standards as arcade games since most seem to be low budget, almost shovelware type games...

yes, but i'm including the "old 360 games/games that came out before the ps3" excuses in with that. that one is not reciprocal.

controllers that come standard with and controllers that are sold seperately are not determining factors of whether or not a game counts. it's the system that plays them. the 360 is the system...kinect is the "controller".

I'm not sure what this means as I'm not familiar. I've seen people talking about an official "spreadsheet" and I assume you are the guy that manages it. I really don't even know where it's posted though.

In either case, I don't see how the bolded text would even relate to Kinect/Move. I'm just saying it seems to be a "grey area', that it COULD be a subcategory. I'm not telling you how to look at it, I'm just saying that's one way to look at it. Frankly for me whether it's included or not, it's still funny to see lists fluffed up with Seasame Street, Disney, Gunslinger, etc...

Gears of War 3-AAA

Forza 4-AAA

Halo Anniversary-AAA

Dance Central 2-AAA

Rise of Nightmares-AA

Kinect Sports 2-AA

Gunstringer-possible AAA

Disneyland Adventures-A

And there's all the multiplats.It looks like a pretty good line-up.

ralphster

Disneyland adventures :| I feel bad for lemmings this year, such a pathetic lineup of exclusives and cash-ins (halo 4, kinect sports 2)

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]

But he applied the same principal to the Move games saying those don't really count. Honestly it seems to be 360 that try to throw in a bunch of Kinect games, whereas you almost NEVER see people adding Move games to fluff up their lists of exclusives. For the most part it isn't as if people on here really care about most of these motion games anyway. There are just so few "good" ones...

It does seem to be a "grey area" to me. The other guy said, "well you need a controller to play any game, I guess that doesn't count". The difference is a controller comes standard with the system, it doesn't require a $150 addon!!! It would be different if it were a truly big budget AAA game perhaps, but most of these games get reviewed at entirely different standards. They seem to be held to the same standards as arcade games since most seem to be low budget, almost shovelware type games...

2Chalupas

do games that require the Wii's classic controller not count?

Depends, does anything (besides virtual console) REQUIRE classic controller??? If so that would seem to be another "grey area", but considering a classic controller is very cheap (or even bundled with some games), that seems to be very different from the $150 Kinect or Move which are just about as expensive as the Wii itself.

if we're going to start talking about additional hardware you need to play certain games, then we'd probably spend forever categorizing PC exclusives according to the minimal spec PC you need to run them. is it really worth it? or are you doing it purely in an attempt to remove a few games from the 360s list and don't care about doing the same with any other platforms?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]

But he applied the same principal to the Move games saying those don't really count. Honestly it seems to be 360 that try to throw in a bunch of Kinect games, whereas you almost NEVER see people adding Move games to fluff up their lists of exclusives. For the most part it isn't as if people on here really care about most of these motion games anyway. There are just so few "good" ones...

It does seem to be a "grey area" to me. The other guy said, "well you need a controller to play any game, I guess that doesn't count". The difference is a controller comes standard with the system, it doesn't require a $150 addon!!! It would be different if it were a truly big budget AAA game perhaps, but most of these games get reviewed at entirely different standards. They seem to be held to the same standards as arcade games since most seem to be low budget, almost shovelware type games...

2Chalupas

yes, but i'm including the "old 360 games/games that came out before the ps3" excuses in with that. that one is not reciprocal.

controllers that come standard with and controllers that are sold seperately are not determining factors of whether or not a game counts. it's the system that plays them. the 360 is the system...kinect is the "controller".

I'm not sure what this means as I'm not familiar. I've seen people talking about an official "spreadsheet" and I assume you are the guy that manages it. I really don't even know where it's posted though.

In either case, I don't see how the bolded text would even relate to Kinect/Move. I'm just saying it seems to be a "grey area', that it COULD be a subcategory. I'm not telling you how to look at it, I'm just saying that's one way to look at it. Frankly for me whether it's included or not, it's still funny to see lists fluffed up with Seasame Street, Disney, Gunslinger, etc...

it was moreof a side comment related to what was being done. the other reason i mentioned doesn't relate to this.

it's really not a gray area. kinect is just a peripheral device. the game is still a 360 game. the dvd goes into the 360...not the kinect. if they are retail games then they count as much as any other retail game.

[QUOTE="ralphster"]

Gears of War 3-AAA

Forza 4-AAA

Halo Anniversary-AAA

Dance Central 2-AAA

Rise of Nightmares-AA

Kinect Sports 2-AA

Gunstringer-possible AAA

Disneyland Adventures-A

And there's all the multiplats.It looks like a pretty good line-up.

The_Pacific

Disneyland adventures :| I feel bad for lemmings this year, such a pathetic lineup of exclusives and cash-ins (halo 4, kinect sports 2)

[QUOTE="The_Pacific"]

[QUOTE="ralphster"]

Gears of War 3-AAA

Forza 4-AAA

Halo Anniversary-AAA

Dance Central 2-AAA

Rise of Nightmares-AA

Kinect Sports 2-AA

Gunstringer-possible AAA

Disneyland Adventures-A

And there's all the multiplats.It looks like a pretty good line-up.

Funconsole

Disneyland adventures :| I feel bad for lemmings this year, such a pathetic lineup of exclusives and cash-ins (halo 4, kinect sports 2)

They do, it's just no one really gives a damn about them here lol. But technically they count.

Saying Kinect games dont count is like saying no games count. I need a tv to play consoles. I need specific hardware upgrades and a monitor to play PC games. Should we also count services as seperate entities as well? Do Steam exclusives only count for Steam, and not the PC? I swear, cows will do anything they can to discount the 360. Yes, there aren't a lot of exclusives coming out for the 360 this year. So what? The ones that are coming out will be quality titles (Gears and Forza). Peoples attitudes about this whole system wars things are what keep me on the fence about buying another PS3. I understand what the point of system wars is but people can't even come up with valid arguments anymore. I feel like I'm on a elementary school playground sometimes when I get on here.

[QUOTE="The_Pacific"]

[QUOTE="ralphster"]

Gears of War 3-AAA

Forza 4-AAA

Halo Anniversary-AAA

Dance Central 2-AAA

Rise of Nightmares-AA

Kinect Sports 2-AA

Gunstringer-possible AAA

Disneyland Adventures-A

And there's all the multiplats.It looks like a pretty good line-up.

Funconsole

Disneyland adventures :| I feel bad for lemmings this year, such a pathetic lineup of exclusives and cash-ins (halo 4, kinect sports 2)

[QUOTE="Funconsole"][QUOTE="The_Pacific"] Kinect games :lol:

Disneyland adventures :| I feel bad for lemmings this year, such a pathetic lineup of exclusives and cash-ins (halo 4, kinect sports 2)

Chutebox

They do, it's just no one really gives a damn about them here lol. But technically they count.

[QUOTE="Funconsole"][QUOTE="The_Pacific"] Kinect games :lol:

Disneyland adventures :| I feel bad for lemmings this year, such a pathetic lineup of exclusives and cash-ins (halo 4, kinect sports 2)

The_Pacific

but ico, sotc, sly, and god of war hd that get mentioned are cool?