360 in trouble, could be banned from stores

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The Microsoft v Motorola court casethat's been bubbling away since 2010seems to be heating up in all the wrong ways for the Xbox 360 manufacturer, with a judge involved recommending that the console's US imports and sales be halted immediately.

International Trade Commission judge David Shaw, pictured, has said he believes that the importing of 4GB and 250GB Xbox 360 consoles into the United States (they're manufactured in China) should be immediately suspended, and that Microsoft should pay Motorola 7% of the value of any unsold consoles remaining in the United States.

Those consoles already in the US and not sold would then also be barred from sale with a cease-and-desist order.

While Microsoft obviously protested, believing the suspension of Xbox 360 sales would hurt competition in the marketplace, Shaw says "enforcing intellectual property rights outweighs any potential economic impact on video game consol buyers."

The dispute dates back a few years, and centres around allegations that Microsoft's Xbox 360 infringes upon five patents held by Motorola, mostly related to video codecs.

If the ITC's commissioners agree with Shaw, their recommendation will end up on President Obama's desk, where he and his advisors will have 60 days to review it.

Note that the ban only mentions Microsoft's current 4GB and 250GB systems; the fate of 320GB consoles or older, pre-owned and refurbished Xbox 360s is unclear.

It followssimilar action earlier in the month in Germany, which also relates to the Motorola dispute.

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Looks like Sony isn't the only one feeling the heat.

It's about time someone steps up to M$ patent violations. They've been doing shady games with patents for a long time shielded by their economic power taking advantage of weaker competitors. kuraimen

Just like Sony with the PS2 rumble technology, right?

Inb4 Phonemug, forzagearface, reach3, groverslanding, jimmypsn :lol:

It's about time someone steps up to M$ patent violations. They've been doing shady games with patents for a long time shielded by their economic power taking advantage of weaker competitors. kuraimen

I think this will all blow over soon, personally. Big men with lot's of money will make deals, things will settle, and it will be over.

I would be surprised if this goes much further.

Powerful men with lot's of money, and we are privileged enough to post about it while rubbernecking.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]It's about time someone steps up to M$ patent violations. They've been doing shady games with patents for a long time shielded by their economic power taking advantage of weaker competitors. Link3301

Just like Sony with the PS2 rumble technology, right?

While that's true, immersion originally has beef with Xbox and PS2, it's just the Xbox manufacturer bought a large share in the Immersion company and settled behind the scenes. Smart move, for sure. So really, it's "Just like Sony and Microsoft with the Xbox and PS2 rumble technology, right?"

I didn't even bring up Nintendo and their controller/rumble problems, but you get the idea. :P

if sony cant pass up a console that isnt allowed to be sold they really need to just give up :lol: mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]if sony cant pass up a console that isnt allowed to be sold they really need to just give up :lol: carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]if sony cant pass up a console that isnt allowed to be sold they really need to just give up :lol: mems_1224

awesome. So what?mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]awesome. So what?carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]awesome. So what?mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] So ya might as well stop acting like you're some fair minded gamer when it comes to Sony because everyone knows you're biased. It doesnt matter at the end of the day, I'm just pointing it out to you... because apparently you've fooled yourself that you're fair minded about Sony but you havent fooled anybody else. Just saying. carljohnson3456

Good thing I have mine.

I honestly doubt there would be a actual bar from selling them in the US though, a deal will be made, there's always a deal made.

It's about time someone steps up to M$ patent violations. They've been doing shady games with patents for a long time shielded by their economic power taking advantage of weaker competitors. kuraimen

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] great! So what?mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] :lol: Amazing counter argument. When you cant deny your opinion is rendered useless because of some fanboy or anti-fanboy bias, just ask "so what?"carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]theres nothing to argue. Im still waiting for you to make a point mems_1224

still dont get what im a fanboy of when the ps3 is the only console i rarely play anymore but ok.mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]still dont get what im a fanboy of when the ps3 is the only console i rarely play anymore but ok.carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] :lol: Amazing counter argument. When you cant deny your opinion is rendered useless because of some fanboy or anti-fanboy bias, just ask "so what?"carljohnson3456

It's not gonna happen. But if it did, I can tell you motorola wouldn't be making very many friends.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]theres nothing to argue. Im still waiting for you to make a point j_assassin

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]theres nothing to argue. Im still waiting for you to make a point j_assassin

motorola seems to be that fly which just wont piss off.campzor

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]It's about time someone steps up to M$ patent violations. They've been doing shady games with patents for a long time shielded by their economic power taking advantage of weaker competitors. carljohnson3456

Oh no, now I won't be able to replace my broken one! Oh how I will miss, uh, Kinect Wii sports?

Dirty M$ pirates :P

All this patent and license nonsense.

Of course MS will try to deal, but with the judgement going this way, Motorola has a serious advantage in the dealings that will take place.

What are these patents anyway? The only things I've seen Motorola trademarks on in the past few years are headsets on NFL coaches.

As for the general practice of patenting technology just for the sake of owning it in case anyone does want to use, I say go **** yourself, personally.

Patents should be evaluated every few years for their validity. Any unpursued tech should become public domain.

This is Bs President Obama isn't going to sign that because that would kill Jobs in America. He can kiss his re-election goodbye if he does sign that. :lol:

Also MS hold patents for things like format of video codecs that are used in blu-ray movies. They could levy high demands on companies that use that format including Sony and bar all Blu-ray players like the PS3 in America. :lol:

ps3 to take 2nd position confirmed :cool: [spoiler] inb4 some idiot taking my post seriously and writing some "witty" butthurt response [/spoiler] campzor

Yeah keep dreaming! :lol:

This is Bs President Obama isn't going to sign that because that would kill Jobs in America.

xhawk27

To be fair I don't think people that live in trailer parks vote much.

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

This is Bs President Obama isn't going to sign that because that would kill Jobs in America.

tenaka2

To be fair I don't think people that live in trailer parks vote much.

You call those people Democrats.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]if sony cant pass up a console that isnt allowed to be sold they really need to just give up :lol: mems_1224

:lol:

This is Bs President Obama isn't going to sign that because that would kill Jobs in America. He can kiss his re-election goodbye if he does sign that. :lol:

Also MS hold patents for things like format of video codecs that are used in blu-ray movies. They could levy high demands on companies that use that format including Sony and bar all Blu-ray players like the PS3 in America. :lol:

xhawk27

Da **** is this?

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

This is Bs President Obama isn't going to sign that because that would kill Jobs in America. He can kiss his re-election goodbye if he does sign that. :lol:

Also MS hold patents for things like format of video codecs that are used in blu-ray movies. They could levy high demands on companies that use that format including Sony and bar all Blu-ray players like the PS3 in America. :lol:

Pug-Nasty

Da **** is this?

Just some crazy guy that thinks 10 year olds have a vote.

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

This is Bs President Obama isn't going to sign that because that would kill Jobs in America. He can kiss his re-election goodbye if he does sign that. :lol:

Also MS hold patents for things like format of video codecs that are used in blu-ray movies. They could levy high demands on companies that use that format including Sony and bar all Blu-ray players like the PS3 in America. :lol:

tenaka2

Da **** is this?

Just some crazy guy that thinks 10 year olds have a vote.

Or some ass who thinks the President needs to sign off some judgement.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

Da **** is this?

Pug-Nasty

Just some crazy guy that thinks 10 year olds have a vote.

Or some ass who thinks the President needs to sign off some judgement.