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#1 Wolfram8411
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K well here it is the 360 a dead console.

Yes I know everyone thinks I'm nuts but just hear me out. Games are getting bigger and bigger right??? Hell even MGS4 was to big for the blu-ray disk. So what's that got to do with it??? Well think about it the blu-ray is the only disk we got right now that can keep up with the games right. So all Sony has to do is say "sorry m-soft you don't get the blu-ray" and boom m-soft is out of the major console race. That's y at E3 thay where showing all the little kiddy friendly games cus they know if they don't make major inroads into that market now then Nintendo is going to crush them come next round of consoles. Plz if you can think of a reason I'm wrong let me know but other then maybe trying to stream games live (witch would have all kinds of lag and loading problems) I don't see how m-soft has a real next next-gen console

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#2 sneslover
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Get out.
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#3 ONLYDOD
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First the PS3 board and now here? :roll: The 360 is far from dead.
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#4 linkin_guy109
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dude you posted this exact same topic in the ps3 board
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#5 web966
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"sorry m-soft you don't get the blu-ray"
Wolfram8411

lol

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#6 thegoldenpoo
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Get out.sneslover

now

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#7 killerfist
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Yes I know everyone thinks I'm nuts

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well..I can't speak for all of us..

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#8 Wolfram8411
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ya but im still looking for someone to come up with something and gamespot din't like it in the ps3 forums so.....
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#9 pyromaniac223
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This thread fails.
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#10 spinecaton
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I think you are wrong, if Sony refused MS the right to use blu-ray they could easily use DVD 2.0 in their next system.
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#11 Ryder123
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[QUOTE="sneslover"]Get out.thegoldenpoo

now

What's the problem? Getting scared?

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#12 -DrRobotnik-
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Sony dont own blu ray
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#13 LinKuei_warrior
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the doors that way...
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#14 3picuri3
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mgs4 was big because Hideo crammed it full of horrid cutscenes that were heavy handed and overly moralistic. if he could've made up his mind whether to make a game or a movie we wouldn't have had the issue or storage come up at all - add to that he crammed the disc with uncompressed 7.1 audio.

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#15 danome01
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hey! i saw this thread before!

anyways because this is system wars. ps3 owns 360 but i like 360 so it won't die even though im a ps3 fanboy but the wii owns all consoles systems but i like ps3 over it even though i also have a small lvoe for 360 but bashed my head in when i heard ff13 was gonna be multiplat to 360 and made a point of sayin ff13 should hvae been a wii exclusive even though i bought pas3 for ff13 and believe the wii can only have kidding games that contradict all of each other!

hi:D

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#16 Ryder123
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Sony dont own blu ray-DrRobotnik-
Uhh, yes they do.
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#17 waynehead895
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I agree with you on this part...

Yes I know everyone thinks I'm nuts Wolfram8411

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#18 WilliamRLBaker
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lol so microsoft goes to the blu ray group and offers up 1 billion to join much more then nearly 80% of the members paid and sony says no.

This is when the collective might of all the other companies in the group tell sony they are kicking them out cause sony didn't create the format but the rest did and sony just slapt their names on it and they were sick of their showboating and arogance give them back their money and kick them out.

lol

Sony has no say in who gets accepted in and who doesn't.

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#19 shaggyaz
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lol dead?yeah thats why It gets regular play time from me,thats why it just sold out in japan, JAPAN of all places!!
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#20 agentfred
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Sony doesn't have that kind of power...
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#21 thegoldenpoo
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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]

[QUOTE="sneslover"]Get out.Ryder123

now

What's the problem? Getting scared?

you too, if you support this guy. out.

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#22 REBEL2100x
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Sony doesn't have that kind of power...agentfred

*facepalm*

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#23 Dante2710
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IQ requirement.....i swear
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#24 footfoe2
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Sony dont own blu ray-DrRobotnik-
not even close, next time try to make a real sentence.

yeah well the disc thing is an issue but in the short term it still has an advantage, at least for now

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#27 REBEL2100x
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony dont own blu rayfootfoe2

not even close, next time try to make a real sentence.

yeah well the disc thing is an issue but in the short term it still has an advantage, at least for now

lol seriously
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#28 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony dont own blu rayRyder123
Uhh, yes they do.

No they dont. Theyre a member of the blu ray disc assosiation, so if they were to deny M$ blu ray, all the other companies in the assosiation would probably approve

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#29 footfoe2
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mgs4 was big because Hideo crammed it full of horrid cutscenes that were heavy handed and overly moralistic. if he could've made up his mind whether to make a game or a movie we wouldn't have had the issue or storage come up at all - add to that he crammed the disc with uncompressed 7.1 audio.

3picuri3
No he doesn't its not a game its an epic interactive media experince. Just because it has long cutscenes doesn't make it a movie. If you played it you'd know its the best single player expeirence out there
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Fanboy F off!
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#31 z-man34
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By the time the next consoles come out something new might come along and be better than Blu-Ray. On contender I can think of off the top of my head is HVD.

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#32 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

mgs4 was big because Hideo crammed it full of horrid cutscenes that were heavy handed and overly moralistic. if he could've made up his mind whether to make a game or a movie we wouldn't have had the issue or storage come up at all - add to that he crammed the disc with uncompressed 7.1 audio.

footfoe2

No he doesn't its not a game its an epic interactive media experince. Just because it has long cutscenes doesn't make it a movie. If you played it you'd know its the best single player expeirence out there

not even close, tried it, and watched my friend (oldschool hardcore MGS fan) try to play it. he sold it to his co-worker, same thing. there are a lot of people that love MGS and hate the new game, some people don't like the stupid senseless cutscenes, personally i'd rather watch a 'loading' logo spin around then watch some of those again. but that's my opinion.

to some of you it's candy, to us it just flat out stank and was pretentious as hell. to each their own though eh?

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#33 Wolfram8411
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By the time the next consoles come out something new might come along and be better than Blu-Ray. On conteneder I can think of off the top of my head is HVD.

z-man34

see now that what im looking for thatnks for the info

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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony dont own blu rayfootfoe2

not even close, next time try to make a real sentence.

yeah well the disc thing is an issue but in the short term it still has an advantage, at least for now

How was that not a sentence? Because i didnt put a full stop at the end?:roll:

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[QUOTE="Ryder123"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony dont own blu ray-DrRobotnik-

Uhh, yes they do.

No they dont. Theyre a member of the blu ray disc assosiation, so if they were to deny M$ blu ray, all the other companies in the assosiation would probably approve

Then Microsoft would probably counter back with "Ok you can't use any of our software in your current TV's and your Viao will not be allowed to have Windows, Good Day" Seriously... use that brain up there ;)
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#37 Iceman2911
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dude you posted this exact same topic in the ps3 boardlinkin_guy109

lol wut

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#38 mastarifla
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[QUOTE="footfoe2"]

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony dont own blu ray-DrRobotnik-

not even close, next time try to make a real sentence.

yeah well the disc thing is an issue but in the short term it still has an advantage, at least for now

How was that not a sentence? Because i didnt put a full stop at the end?:roll:

Sony doesn't own the rights to Blu-Ray. Would have been a complete sentence, you paraphrased the above sentence and that is what he is calling you out on.
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#39 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]

[QUOTE="Ryder123"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony dont own blu raymastarifla

Uhh, yes they do.

No they dont. Theyre a member of the blu ray disc assosiation, so if they were to deny M$ blu ray, all the other companies in the assosiation would probably approve

Then Microsoft would probably counter back with "Ok you can't use any of our software in your current TV's and your Viao will not be allowed to have Windows, Good Day" Seriously... use that brain up there ;)

I hope that wasnt directed at me. Im saying that Sony woudnt be foolish enough to not allow M$ to use the blu ray format, and even if Sony did want to, they arent the sole owners of the format. They would have to get other companies like Philips, Thompson and LG to agree which i doubt they would if it means less $$$.

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#40 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="footfoe2"]

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony dont own blu raymastarifla

not even close, next time try to make a real sentence.

yeah well the disc thing is an issue but in the short term it still has an advantage, at least for now

How was that not a sentence? Because i didnt put a full stop at the end?:roll:

Sony doesn't own the rights to Blu-Ray. Would have been a complete sentence, you paraphrased the above sentence and that is what he is calling you out on.

"Don't" is short for "Do Not". Sony do not own blu ray. That seems like a perfectly acceptable sentence. Im not taking an english exam. If you guys have nothing to say on the topic at hand and have to resort to calling out my grammar, then save your breath please.

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#41 mastarifla
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[QUOTE="mastarifla"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]

[QUOTE="Ryder123"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony dont own blu ray-DrRobotnik-

Uhh, yes they do.

No they dont. Theyre a member of the blu ray disc assosiation, so if they were to deny M$ blu ray, all the other companies in the assosiation would probably approve

Then Microsoft would probably counter back with "Ok you can't use any of our software in your current TV's and your Viao will not be allowed to have Windows, Good Day" Seriously... use that brain up there ;)

I hope that wasnt directed at me. Im saying that Sony woudnt be foolish enough to not allow M$ to use the blu ray format, and even if Sony did want to, they arent the sole owners of the format. They would have to get other companies like Philips, Thompson and LG to agree which i doubt they would if it means less $$$.

It was more towards Ryder but I also wanted to back up your argument with a few situations that could evolve from that.
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#42 footfoe2
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[QUOTE="footfoe2"]

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Sony dont own blu ray-DrRobotnik-

not even close, next time try to make a real sentence.

yeah well the disc thing is an issue but in the short term it still has an advantage, at least for now

How was that not a sentence? Because i didnt put a full stop at the end?:roll:

"Sony don't own blu ray"? its "Sony doesn't own blu-ray." on top of that you didn't care to explain what you ment
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#43 ukillwegrill
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K well here it is the 360 a dead console.

Yes I know everyone thinks I'm nuts but just hear me out. Games are getting bigger and bigger right??? Hell even MGS4 was to big for the blu-ray disk.

Wolfram8411

STOP RIGHT THERE!!!

MGS was a movie, not a game ....pfft, new kids.

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#44 Minishdriveby
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K well here it is the 360 a dead console.

Yes I know everyone thinks I'm nuts but just hear me out. Games are getting bigger and bigger right??? Hell even MGS4 was to big for the blu-ray disk. So what's that got to do with it??? Well think about it the blu-ray is the only disk we got right now that can keep up with the games right. So all Sony has to do is say "sorry m-soft you don't get the blu-ray" and boom m-soft is out of the major console race. That's y at E3 thay where showing all the little kiddy friendly games cus they know if they don't make major inroads into that market now then Nintendo is going to crush them come next round of consoles. Plz if you can think of a reason I'm wrong let me know but other then maybe trying to stream games live (witch would have all kinds of lag and loading problems) I don't see how m-soft has a real next next-gen console

Wolfram8411

Sooooo it wont kill the 360 it will kill Microsoft consoles when they make their next gen system?

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#45 Phazevariance
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K well here it is the 360 a dead console.

Yes I know everyone thinks I'm nuts but just hear me out. Games are getting bigger and bigger right??? Hell even MGS4 was to big for the blu-ray disk. So what's that got to do with it??? Well think about it the blu-ray is the only disk we got right now that can keep up with the games right. So all Sony has to do is say "sorry m-soft you don't get the blu-ray" and boom m-soft is out of the major console race. That's y at E3 thay where showing all the little kiddy friendly games cus they know if they don't make major inroads into that market now then Nintendo is going to crush them come next round of consoles. Plz if you can think of a reason I'm wrong let me know but other then maybe trying to stream games live (witch would have all kinds of lag and loading problems) I don't see how m-soft has a real next next-gen console

Wolfram8411

There's one major flaw in your theory. Sony doesn't OWN blu-ray, they are just one of the companies on the board of directors (many companies that own it) and believe t or not, regardless of what Sony wants, those other companies votes would be greater than Sony's share. Those companies wouldn't want to lose the opportunity to make more money on their new media, and Sony would ahve to comply regardless of they want to or not. So sorry, your completely wrong.

Also, ever heard of disc swapping? PS3 having very few good games ont he market right now, i can't see how they are a real next gen console. Its a good media center, but not a good console for gaming. Also, MGS4 didn't fit on blu ray because its an interactive MOVIE. All the movie cutscenes took up too much space, most games arent movies, they are games.

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#46 FFXIII360
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I agree with you on this part...

[QUOTE="Wolfram8411"] Yes I know everyone thinks I'm ghey waynehead895

ditto

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#47 SpruceCaboose
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Could have fooled me. Here I thought it had the largest library of games that appeal to me, with a holiday of great games ahead of it.
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#48 Firelore29
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I'm going to agree with this thread. Dispite the fact that system wars is filled with Lemmings it is failing. People can claim it's the best system out there all they want but it's slowly dying.
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#49 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Didn't you hear? 360 was dead in 2006 when PS3... oh wait!!! :o
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#50 soren008
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Get out.sneslover

:lol:

Cruel .. but needed