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[QUOTE="rogelio22"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]nothing just thought that would solve alotta problems over the arguing of graphics on consoles over pcs. if you just renamed the console graphics king to graphics prince. i dont know maybe Prince? Why not just the use the term console king, system king, handheld king? :confused: because console kings supposably dont exist! even if the thread topic specifacly states (console graphics king) pc gamers always come in with crysis and what not:?unless a better looking game comes out. what's the problem?
alexside1
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] So if i made a thread called "Games with score of 10".. am i ignoring the xbox? No i'm just excluding it as it is not viable for discussion. But anyway this is going nowhere.hexashadow13
what makes the pc not viable for discussion?
That it's not a console. It's just as legit of a reason as "Games with AAAA". But this isn't console wars, it's system wars :? Thus, PC counts[QUOTE="deangallop"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] If you can prove that Crysis is not the technical graphics king, then go ahead and do it.
DragonfireXZ95
I'm not arguing that something else is graphics king, I think it's the most ridiculous term ever created on SW.
I'm saying that a HUGE part of having great looking graphics relates to taste, and that's something that people are trying to ignore and while ignoring that and arguing about just the technical stuff ( who cares about that really btw???) while not even providing evidence is ridiculous.
Even if you could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Crysis has the best technical graphics, why shoul I care, I was impressed way more by some of the amazing blockbuster moments and locations that uncharted 2 has.
So you keep bringing up subjective points involving art style or cinematics.... I love the way Crysis looks. From the tropical island to the alien ship, it looks amazing. There, is that subjective enough for you? Why are you arguing on a graphics king thread, if you don't care about what is graphics king?It's alright for you to love the way crysis looks, and I'm not arguing about what I think should be graphics king, I'm arguing about the title and term and it's absolutly ridiculous.
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] So if i made a thread called "Games with score of 10".. am i ignoring the xbox? No i'm just excluding it as it is not viable for discussion. But anyway this is going nowhere.hexashadow13
what makes the pc not viable for discussion?
That it's not a console. It's just as legit of a reason as "Games with AAAA".this isn't console wars.
So if i made a thread called "Games with score of 10".. am i ignoring the xbox? No i'm just excluding it as it is not viable for discussion. But anyway this is going nowhere.[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
it is what it is. you can't just ignore something because you can't beat it. should lemmings be allowed to ignore mgs4 because no 360 games scored a 10?
CaseyWegner
what makes the pc not viable for discussion?
Was proving a point, that just because something isn't included does not mean it was ignored... Why is this so hard for you to understand? If i want a system war without a system then it's still a war, if i excluded the ps3 and had a Xbox vs PC thread it's still a "system war"... just one army short.[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]That it's not a console. It's just as legit of a reason as "Games with AAAA". But this isn't console wars, it's system wars :? Thus, PC countswhat makes the pc not viable for discussion?
Funconsole
They want it to be console wars so badly lol....
So you keep bringing up subjective points involving art style or cinematics.... I love the way Crysis looks. From the tropical island to the alien ship, it looks amazing. There, is that subjective enough for you? Why are you arguing on a graphics king thread, if you don't care about what is graphics king?[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="deangallop"]
I'm not arguing that something else is graphics king, I think it's the most ridiculous term ever created on SW.
I'm saying that a HUGE part of having great looking graphics relates to taste, and that's something that people are trying to ignore and while ignoring that and arguing about just the technical stuff ( who cares about that really btw???) while not even providing evidence is ridiculous.
Even if you could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Crysis has the best technical graphics, why shoul I care, I was impressed way more by some of the amazing blockbuster moments and locations that uncharted 2 has.
deangallop
It's alright for you to love the way crysis looks, and I'm not arguing about what I think should be graphics king, I'm arguing about the title and term and it's absolutly ridiculous.
Eh, this is system wars, anything goes. I would not try to argue against something that has been around for so long. lolin that case all new graphics threads referring only to consoles should be called GRAPHICS PRINCE!?[QUOTE="rogelio22"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
so why can't you just argue over 2nd place? :?
CaseyWegner
unless a better looking game comes out. what's the problem?
A better looking game doesn't need to come out , even tho God Of War 3 already did, so what's the problem you have?
You are the one trying to decide that it's not but you are going to have a hard time proving your case. Simply screaming POSIBLE resolutions, AA, frame-rate and the such will not prove your argument. it's still you opinion and many others disagree with.
Do you have any professional articles that states that Crysis has the best graphics RIGHT NOW?
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
[QUOTE="JohnF111"] So if i made a thread called "Games with score of 10".. am i ignoring the xbox? No i'm just excluding it as it is not viable for discussion. But anyway this is going nowhere.JohnF111
what makes the pc not viable for discussion?
Was proving a point, that just because something isn't included does not mean it was ignored... Why is this so hard for you to understand? If i want a system war without a system then it's still a war, if i excluded the ps3 and had a Xbox vs PC thread it's still a "system war"... just one army short.i've already said that's fine as long as you're not ignoring it while doing it. you don't have to mention it...just don't pretend it doesn't exist.
Was proving a point, that just because something isn't included does not mean it was ignored... Why is this so hard for you to understand? If i want a system war without a system then it's still a war, if i excluded the ps3 and had a Xbox vs PC thread it's still a "system war"... just one army short.[QUOTE="JohnF111"]
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
what makes the pc not viable for discussion?
CaseyWegner
i've already said that's fine as long as you're not ignoring it while doing it. you don't have to mention it...just don't pretend it doesn't exist.
Creating a thread about console graphics and determining the king of it doesn't not pretend that it doesn't exist.Was proving a point, that just because something isn't included does not mean it was ignored... Why is this so hard for you to understand? If i want a system war without a system then it's still a war, if i excluded the ps3 and had a Xbox vs PC thread it's still a "system war"... just one army short.[QUOTE="JohnF111"]
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
what makes the pc not viable for discussion?
CaseyWegner
i've already said that's fine as long as you're not ignoring it while doing it. you don't have to mention it...just don't pretend it doesn't exist.
So what you say is between the two i choose, i am allowed a winner or another term could be "king"? Even though truthfully there are other systems that can beat it but was not included in the war i created?what previous graphics king does this beat?
CaseyWegner
Killzone 2, but its fine since only the screens beat it and Killzone 3 is out around the same time.
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
[QUOTE="rogelio22"]in that case all new graphics threads referring only to consoles should be called GRAPHICS PRINCE!?georgia_bulll
unless a better looking game comes out. what's the problem?
A better looking game doesn't need to come out , even tho God Of War 3 already did, so what's the problem you have?
You are the one trying to decide that it's not but you are going to have a hard time proving your case. Simply screaming POSIBLE resolutions, AA, frame-rate and the such will not prove your argument. it's still you opinion and many others disagree with.
Do you have any professional articles that states that Crysis has the best graphics RIGHT NOW?
are you confusing me with somebody else cause you keep arguing against points i never even made.
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] Was proving a point, that just because something isn't included does not mean it was ignored... Why is this so hard for you to understand? If i want a system war without a system then it's still a war, if i excluded the ps3 and had a Xbox vs PC thread it's still a "system war"... just one army short.
JohnF111
i've already said that's fine as long as you're not ignoring it while doing it. you don't have to mention it...just don't pretend it doesn't exist.
So what you say is between the two i choose, i am allowed a winner or another term could be "king"? Even though truthfully there are other systems that can beat it but was not included in the war i created?you created a battle. the war is system wars.
Well the hermets are doing it for you.[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
so that means i'm forcing people to accept crysis as graphics king?
CaseyWegner
hermits didn't invent the term "console graphics king". it was done by people who recognized what the graphics king was and wanted a way around it.
lol, what? You just made that up.
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
what previous graphics king does this beat?
Killzone 2, but its fine since only the screens beat it and Killzone 3 is out around the same time.
Sarcasm? Crysis is the king.[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
[QUOTE="rogelio22"]in that case all new graphics threads referring only to consoles should be called GRAPHICS PRINCE!?georgia_bulll
unless a better looking game comes out. what's the problem?
A better looking game doesn't need to come out , even tho God Of War 3 already did, so what's the problem you have?
You are the one trying to decide that it's not but you are going to have a hard time proving your case. Simply screaming POSIBLE resolutions, AA, frame-rate and the such will not prove your argument. it's still you opinion and many others disagree with.
Do you have any professional articles that states that Crysis has the best graphics RIGHT NOW?
Umm... Let's compare. I'm not even going to use Crysis.
This
vs this
[QUOTE="georgia_bulll"][QUOTE="alexside1"] You know when it comes to the discussion of graphics king, we refer to it's technical merits and such.DragonfireXZ95
and we measure that with....???
yeeahhhh.
IMO Marrowind Elder Scrolls 3 is the best game ever becaue it's just sooooo big now that's high tech surely better than anything this gen, Crysis only looks better because it's so small in comparison. See I can hype any game's graphics and make up some tech non-sense to back it up. Most people hyping tech merits are all BS anyway.
I just saw a person, most likely a hermet, in the thread hyping the witcher 2, and all the gameplay shown for that game was corridor levels so it can't look good because it not sandbox right? or open world right? or crazy physics and 300 characters on screen right?
Graphics are grahics you (not talking about you) can't what gaphical merits are important or not. It all comes down to how good the game looks in front of you.
Actually, Witcher 2 is open world. You should probably research games before you type posts like this. :PI own the witcher thank you. nice game but hardly open world you should know who you're talking to before make posts like yours.
BTW give me a link stating this game is open world, or did you make that up because you assumed I didn't own a gaming PC and played PC games?
[QUOTE="georgia_bulll"]
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
DragonfireXZ95
A better looking game doesn't need to come out , even tho God Of War 3 already did, so what's the problem you have?
You are the one trying to decide that it's not but you are going to have a hard time proving your case. Simply screaming POSIBLE resolutions, AA, frame-rate and the such will not prove your argument. it's still you opinion and many others disagree with.
Do you have any professional articles that states that Crysis has the best graphics RIGHT NOW?
Umm... Let's compare. I'm not even going to use Crysis.
This
vs this
Congrats, you just proved absolutely nothing.
Actually, Witcher 2 is open world. You should probably research games before you type posts like this. :P[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="georgia_bulll"]
and we measure that with....???
yeeahhhh.
IMO Marrowind Elder Scrolls 3 is the best game ever becaue it's just sooooo big now that's high tech surely better than anything this gen, Crysis only looks better because it's so small in comparison. See I can hype any game's graphics and make up some tech non-sense to back it up. Most people hyping tech merits are all BS anyway.
I just saw a person, most likely a hermet, in the thread hyping the witcher 2, and all the gameplay shown for that game was corridor levels so it can't look good because it not sandbox right? or open world right? or crazy physics and 300 characters on screen right?
Graphics are grahics you (not talking about you) can't what gaphical merits are important or not. It all comes down to how good the game looks in front of you.
georgia_bulll
I own the witcher thank you. nice game but hardly open world you should know who you're talking to before make posts like yours.
BTW give me a link stating this game is open world, or did you make that up because you assumed I didn't own a gaming PC and played PC games?
Wait, the witcher is the same game as the witcher 2? Nah, you may want to check your reading comprehension though http://www.faceoffgames.com/section/1164240[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] So if i made a thread called "Games with score of 10".. am i ignoring the xbox? No i'm just excluding it as it is not viable for discussion. But anyway this is going nowhere.hexashadow13
what makes the pc not viable for discussion?
That it's not a console. It's just as legit of a reason as "Games with AAAA".lol ironically if you added a E making it AAAAE it would also exclude PC as well. so I guess you wouldn't be allowed to make that thead either, so in a revese way you are pretending that AAAAE's dont exist.
Wow, you're only like 5 months late with that screenshot.
Anyway, this is a textbook troll thread, most likely done by a fakeboy. It's ironic that stuff like this is responsible for the propogation of SW. Good stuff.
[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
what previous graphics king does this beat?
Silverbond
Killzone 2, but its fine since only the screens beat it and Killzone 3 is out around the same time.
Sarcasm? Crysis is the king.I was just talking about TC's standards, if he counts Crysis and PC (which many fanboys don't), then I don't think he could say its a graphics king against Crysis and expet to be taken seriously. At least with Killzone 2 they can pretend.
Sarcasm? Crysis is the king.[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]
Killzone 2, but its fine since only the screens beat it and Killzone 3 is out around the same time.
SPYDER0416
I was just talking about TC's standards, if he counts Crysis and PC (which many fanboys don't), then I don't think he could say its a graphics king against Crysis and expet to be taken seriously. At least with Killzone 2 they can pretend.
Yeah he could... quite easily.[QUOTE="georgia_bulll"]
[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Actually, Witcher 2 is open world. You should probably research games before you type posts like this. :Pferret-gamer
I own the witcher thank you. nice game but hardly open world you should know who you're talking to before make posts like yours.
BTW give me a link stating this game is open world, or did you make that up because you assumed I didn't own a gaming PC and played PC games?
Wait, the witcher is the same game as the witcher 2? Nah, you may want to check your reading comprehension though http://www.faceoffgames.com/section/1164240You expect me to read thru all that mess? you are trying to tell me this game is open world so simply find me that quote word for word from that link and be done. If you can't do that then there was no point in you even replying back.
Wait, the witcher is the same game as the witcher 2? Nah, you may want to check your reading comprehension though http://www.faceoffgames.com/section/1164240[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]
[QUOTE="georgia_bulll"]
I own the witcher thank you. nice game but hardly open world you should know who you're talking to before make posts like yours.
BTW give me a link stating this game is open world, or did you make that up because you assumed I didn't own a gaming PC and played PC games?
georgia_bulll
You expect me to read thru all that mess? you are trying to tell me this game is open world so simply find me that quote word for word from that link and be done. If you can't do that then there was no point in you even replying back.
You want a link, i give you a link, you respond in a condescending tone about how lazy you are.
Why exactly should i continue talking to you? Oh well, here you go your majesty i have copied the text showing you exactly saying that it is open world.
"TG:I guess you're gonna have to wait and see for yourself. I've seen quests implemented and have already played them - it really works. Second thing is, we've got a fully open world right now, so you can explore all parts of locations from the very beginning, so many quests are presented to you at an early stage."
Right in that link that you requested then refused to check even though it takes 5 seconds.
Wait, the witcher is the same game as the witcher 2? Nah, you may want to check your reading comprehension though http://www.faceoffgames.com/section/1164240[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]
[QUOTE="georgia_bulll"]
I own the witcher thank you. nice game but hardly open world you should know who you're talking to before make posts like yours.
BTW give me a link stating this game is open world, or did you make that up because you assumed I didn't own a gaming PC and played PC games?
georgia_bulll
You expect me to read thru all that mess? you are trying to tell me this game is open world so simply find me that quote word for word from that link and be done. If you can't do that then there was no point in you even replying back.
Here you go lazy.
"F.O.G: We've been told there will be no "FedEx missions", that missions wouldn't have the player going from point A to point B delivering packages. Is this really true? Other games in the past have claimed the same, and have failed to delivery. Can players really expect anything different from the Witcher 2?"
"TG: I guess you're gonna have to wait and see for yourself. I've seen quests implemented and have already played them - it really works. Second thing is, we've got a fully open world right now, so you can explore all parts of locations from the very beginning, so many quests are presented to you at an early stage."
He's not going to respond back. lol
How can this be the Graphic King if it doesn't even beat Uncharted 2, let alone Crysis?Wassmansdorff
How could Crysis be graphics king when it can't beat Gear of war 1 or uncharted drakes fortune??
[QUOTE="1Stark1"]
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
no. it just can't be ignored.
CaseyWegner
But thats just it, the term "CONSOLE graphics king" includes the PC, otherwise it would just be called "Graphics King" Console Graphics king is basically just saying "this is the best lookiing game on consoles" If it meant anything else, the word console wouldn't be in front of it, therefore acknowledging the PC.
it's just a way to attach the word "king" to something because it's beaten by something else.
So? Saying "best looking game on consoles" is just a way to attach the word "best" to something beaten by something else. Whole thing is silly. PC's position in the graphics department isn't being threatened, or even debated. In a forum where console comparisons are a large portion of discussions, the concept of "Console Graphics King" is not gonna go away, no matter what term is in vogue. In which case, "forbidding" any other non-offensive term or phrase that describes that concept is so much busywork.
[QUOTE="georgia_bulll"]
[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] Wait, the witcher is the same game as the witcher 2? Nah, you may want to check your reading comprehension though http://www.faceoffgames.com/section/1164240
ferret-gamer
You expect me to read thru all that mess? you are trying to tell me this game is open world so simply find me that quote word for word from that link and be done. If you can't do that then there was no point in you even replying back.
You want a link, i give you a link, you respond in a condescending tone about how lazy you are.
Why exactly should i continue talking to you? Oh well, here you go your majesty i have copied the text showing you exactly saying that it is open world.
"TG:I guess you're gonna have to wait and see for yourself. I've seen quests implemented and have already played them - it really works. Second thing is, we've got a fully open world right now, so you can explore all parts of locations from the very beginning, so many quests are presented to you at an early stage."
Right in that link that you requested then refused to check even though it takes 5 seconds.
He didn't even have to read through it either. All he had to do was hit ctrl + F and type in "open world." :lol: These guys, seriously.Well the hermets are doing it for you.[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
so that means i'm forcing people to accept crysis as graphics king?
CaseyWegner
hermits didn't invent the term "console graphics king". it was done by people who recognized what the graphics king was and wanted a way around it.
And whats wrong with that? Everyone knows Crysis and PC beats all. Its pointless to included Crysis and PCs in the discussion so a sub-category was created. Console graphics king.
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
[QUOTE="alexside1"] Well the hermets are doing it for you.erglesmergle
hermits didn't invent the term "console graphics king". it was done by people who recognized what the graphics king was and wanted a way around it.
And whats wrong with that? Everyone knows Crysis and PC beats all. Its pointless to included Crysis and PCs in the discussion so a sub-category was created. Console graphics king.
You want console graphics king, then we need to have console exclusives too. Looks like your PS3 just got destroyed in the games department.[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
[QUOTE="alexside1"] Well the hermets are doing it for you.erglesmergle
hermits didn't invent the term "console graphics king". it was done by people who recognized what the graphics king was and wanted a way around it.
And whats wrong with that? Everyone knows Crysis and PC beats all. Its pointless to included Crysis and PCs in the discussion so a sub-category was created. Console graphics king.
It's pointless to compare PC graphics with consoles graphics since you can't change the graphics card in a game console. LMAO!! I don't know why people keep making those comparisons. It's ridiculous. The games consoles have 4yrs old graphic cards in them while PC's can have the newest most recent graphic cards. Why would anyone bother making a comparison between consoles graphics and PC graphics. It's silly.[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
[QUOTE="1Stark1"]
But thats just it, the term "CONSOLE graphics king" includes the PC, otherwise it would just be called "Graphics King" Console Graphics king is basically just saying "this is the best lookiing game on consoles" If it meant anything else, the word console wouldn't be in front of it, therefore acknowledging the PC.
it's just a way to attach the word "king" to something because it's beaten by something else.
So? Saying "best looking game on consoles" is just a way to attach the word "best" to something beaten by something else. Whole thing is silly. PC's position in the graphics department isn't being threatened, or even debated. In a forum where console comparisons are a large portion of discussions, the concept of "Console Graphics King" is not gonna go away, no matter what term is in vogue. In which case, "forbidding" any other non-offensive term or phrase that describes that concept is so much busywork.
Console graphics king should exist. It's an easier way of saying "best looking game on a console with static hardware".[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]It doesn't look good at all... Looks decent at best.blackaceYou might be blind. Open your eyes a little wider. It looks great, but RAGE and Uncharted 2 still looks a bit better. It surpasses KZ2 and Gears 2 slightly. Gears 3 should be great. No, I'm not blind. Not when I'm used to so many games with better graphics on my PC.
I thought Lemms didn't care about graphics
tonitorsi
And I thought cows didn't care about sales. Things change.
[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]
I thought Lemms didn't care about graphics
And I thought cows didn't care about sales. Things change.
Oooo ^ what happened with sales? :P But yeah, Gears 3 is going to look great regardless. Gears 1 and 2 look absolutely stunning in places, technically AND artistically (check out the level Denizens(?) )Please Log In to post.
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