360 owners dont worry, Star Ocean 4 looks just as Good as FF13

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#1 blitzkid1
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Final Fantasy XIII Screenshot

Star Ocean 4

Star Ocean: The Last Hope Picture

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#2 fiercedeity901
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i wasn't worrying SO4 is gonna be great and amazing...it has a different art style than FF games...so i wasn't comparing at all and both look great IMO
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#3 NuclearFreedom
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so you're comparing a really old ff13 pic to a recent star ocean pic?
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#4 istreakforfood
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So having great graphics make great jrpg games?
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#5 BioShockOwnz
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I can't wait for both. Fanboys miss out. :)
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#6 blitzkid1
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So having great graphics make great jrpg games?istreakforfood

imo yup.

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#7 fiercedeity901
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I can't wait for both. Fanboys miss out. :)BioShockOwnz
agreed
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#8 deactivated-5de2fb6a3a711
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So having great graphics make great jrpg games?istreakforfood

it works for shooters, doesn't it?. :roll:

anyways, both look good. i've never played a game in any of those series, but the 360 could sure use some more JRPGs

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#9 SolidTy
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I'm not worried, but SO has never been able to compete with FF.

I don't care though, I play SO for the fun gameplay.

FF is SE's Main Franchise, they are going to make that the grand daddy of their Graphics.

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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]So having great graphics make great jrpg games?bulletsword

it works for shooters, doesn't it?. :roll:

anyways, both look good. i've never played a game in any of those series, but the 360 could sure use some more JRPGs

so does the ps3

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#11 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]So having great graphics make great jrpg games?blitzkid1

imo yup.

I disagree. Jrpg games are one of the genres out there where graphics don't matter. There are some great ones from SNES, N64, and PS1 games that are good as or better than some of the jrpg games that have come out last gen and this gen.

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#12 jethrovegas
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So having great graphics make great jrpg games?istreakforfood


Well, I certainly don't play new JRPGs for the compelling and innovative gameplay mechanics, so yeah, graphics are a big deal in the genre...
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#13 deactivated-5de2fb6a3a711
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[QUOTE="bulletsword"]

[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]So having great graphics make great jrpg games?NuclearFreedom

it works for shooters, doesn't it?. :roll:

anyways, both look good. i've never played a game in any of those series, but the 360 could sure use some more JRPGs

so does the ps3

yeah, it could use some as well. i just find it a bit... different that the 360 is getting some especially since the original Xbox had almost none that I can recall while the PS2 had a million and probably still has more coming. i'm just glad there's also more for the 360 because I'm tired of all these shooters...

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#14 TheNuyorican
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Can you send me a link to a video of FF13 released recently?

Oh, that's right. None of us know how FF13 will end up, or look. All we had was a target render.

Looking as good =/= Being as good

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#15 blitzkid1
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Can you send me a link to a video of FF13 released recently?

Oh, that's right. None of us know how FF13 will end up, or look. All we had was a target render.

Looking as good =/= Being as good

TheNuyorican

yeah it does.

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#16 bam706
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lol ff13 will probably look better then that old screen...MGS4 even looks better.
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#17 themyth01
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Those could be CGI or target renders for either game, either way cut-scenes even in real-time look better than gameplay.
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#18 ice144
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I honestly have ZERO idea why ANYONE is hyping a star ocean game. The only people who could be hyping a star ocean game are people who have never played it, as even the fans themselves arent hyping this AAA.

It has always been a sub-par series, and if SO4 is just like SO3 was, you'll be in for a huge disappointment, as that was probably one of the worst jrpg i have ever played.

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#19 Ragnarok1051
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So now lemmings are hyping games based off of graphics alone?
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#20 MrCoolguy123
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Graphically, yea, but in my opinion FF13 > SO4, most likely.

That being said, FF3 wont be >>> than SO4 and to be honest, SO4 will be a very, very good game.

And you ^ people are hyping star ocean because it's a great jrpg series. Where have you been?

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#21 jethrovegas
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So now lemmings are hyping games based off of graphics alone?Ragnarok1051

Why not? It seems more than reasonable to assume that S04 will be typical SO fare, and it's fairly reasonable to assume that FF will be typical FF fare, so, assuming all other things are equal (comparative analysis of the two series aside, for argument's sake), why not hype based on visuals?

I would say that visuals are one of the main draws when I'm looking to buy a new JRPG (something that actually happens now and then, depending on my mood) so hyping such a title based on its graphics seems perfectly reasonable to me.

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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]So having great graphics make great jrpg games?bulletsword

it works for shooters, doesn't it?. :roll:

anyways, both look good. i've never played a game in any of those series, but the 360 could sure use some more JRPGs

There are some few old school fps games that are still good even after all this time against some of the newer games out there. For example Halo: CE or Duke Nukem 3D(pc). I do think however graphics are more important in shooters than in jrpg games especially the ones where you play online with and agaisnt others, but graphics isn't the main importance it is on how well the developers make the game.

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#23 deactivated-5de2fb6a3a711
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[QUOTE="bulletsword"]

[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]So having great graphics make great jrpg games?istreakforfood

it works for shooters, doesn't it?. :roll:

anyways, both look good. i've never played a game in any of those series, but the 360 could sure use some more JRPGs

There are some few old school fps games that are still good even after all this time against some of the newer games out there. For example Halo: CE or Duke Nukem 3D(pc). I do think however graphics are more important in shooters than in jrpg games especially the ones where you play online with and agaisnt others, but graphics isn't the main importance it is on how well the developers make the game.

i was being a bit sarcastic, but i have to agree with you there. a lot of huge graphics debates these days involve those type of games. gameplay all the way, regardless of genre

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#24 ad1x2
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Good thing I got both systems, so I have no reason to worry which game turns out better. But I never played a Star Ocean game, so I'll still wait for a review before I get it unless I really like the playable demo if one is released. FFXIII will be purchases no matter what.
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]So now lemmings are hyping games based off of graphics alone?jethrovegas

Why not? It seems more than reasonable to assume that S04 will be typical SO fare, and it's fairly reasonable to assume that FF will be typical FF fare, so, assuming all other things are equal (comparative analysis of the two series aside, for argument's sake), why not hype based on visuals?

I would say that visuals are one of the main draws when I'm looking to buy a new JRPG (something that actually happens now and then, depending on my mood) so hyping such a title based on its graphics seems perfectly reasonable to me.

I've never played a FF that is the same.

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#26 sargentbotk
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As long as both are good, then I'm happy. I'll buy my PS3 when FF13 comes out. I just cannot see myself without it T_T.
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#27 diped
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jrpgs are super boring, so the game better have nice grapics cause all you'll be doing the whole game is mashing a to attack as fast as you can with each character to get rhough thousands of very similar battles.
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#28 jethrovegas
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[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]So now lemmings are hyping games based off of graphics alone?Ragnarok1051

Why not? It seems more than reasonable to assume that S04 will be typical SO fare, and it's fairly reasonable to assume that FF will be typical FF fare, so, assuming all other things are equal (comparative analysis of the two series aside, for argument's sake), why not hype based on visuals?

I would say that visuals are one of the main draws when I'm looking to buy a new JRPG (something that actually happens now and then, depending on my mood) so hyping such a title based on its graphics seems perfectly reasonable to me.

I've never played a FF that is the same.

Well no, when you have a series like that, the titles are almost always different games, but that doesn't mean that FF doesn't have a common thread (or a common rope) running throughout the series.

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#29 Chutebox
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I can't wait for both. Fanboys miss out. :)BioShockOwnz

It's funny because the dude who started the thread misses out on both haha.

Oh, and TC, no. Also, that ancient FF13 picture you posted looks better too haha.

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#30 istreakforfood
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One great example of graphics doesn't matter for jrpg games is Persona 3. I found the game fresh due to how you interact with other npc's and found the characters in the game unique compare to other jrpg games out there. However I found the battle system tedious and repetitive after awhile and I dreaded doing the Taratus runs. Still it was a overall good game that got rpg goty last year from GS.

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#31 Zoso-8
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I'm willing to bet most 360 owners that are hyping this haven't even played a SO game before. Seriously, most die hard jrpg fans aren't even hyping this game after the crap that was SO3.
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#32 Blue-Sky
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I love Tri-Ace but if I had to put money on which would be the better game, FFXIII would be the safest.
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#33 jethrovegas
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I'm willing to bet most 360 owners that are hyping this haven't even played a SO game before. Seriously, most die hard jrpg fans aren't even hyping this game after the crap that was SO3.Zoso-8

But that monster with the crazy ass snake/bird arms looks so cool!

How can you not hype a game that has such a cool looking monster in it?

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#35 Ibacai
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While I agree that they'll most likely look equally good this is a horrible comparison. Like Saolin / greg_splicer bad. You're comparing a pic of FFXIII (With HUD) that is over a year old to one of SO4 (With no HUD) that was just released. :|
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#36 Couth_
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Never really gave a damn about SO before; don't now...
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#37 dream431ca
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Star Ocean 3 wasn't that great. I don't expect too much from Star Ocean 4.
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#38 Millennium_King
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I can't wait for both. Fanboys miss out. :)BioShockOwnz

Agreed

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#39 FunkyHeadHunter
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The only thing im worrying about is...THEY still make these types of games...geeshhh...I hate um..
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#40 rockguy92
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Hate RPG's.
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#41 blitzkid1
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I can't wait for both. Fanboys miss out. :)Chutebox

It's funny because the dude who started the thread misses out on both haha.

Oh, and TC, no. Also, that ancient FF13 picture you posted looks better too haha.

uh no i have a wii and a 360.

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#42 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I can't wait for both. Fanboys miss out. :)blitzkid1

It's funny because the dude who started the thread misses out on both haha.

Oh, and TC, no. Also, that ancient FF13 picture you posted looks better too haha.

uh no i have a wii and a 360.

Oh, thought you only had a Wii. I guess you'll only miss out on the better rpg then. :D

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[QUOTE="blitzkid1"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I can't wait for both. Fanboys miss out. :)Chutebox

It's funny because the dude who started the thread misses out on both haha.

Oh, and TC, no. Also, that ancient FF13 picture you posted looks better too haha.

uh no i have a wii and a 360.

Oh, thought you only had a Wii. I guess you'll only miss out on the better rpg then. :D

Not really .

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#44 The_Hippie_God
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Both are going to suck. Who cares?
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#45 Zhengi
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AaaarrrrrgggggghhhHHH!!!! My eyes!!!! Too much bloooooooooommm.....
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#46 jasonharris48
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Star Ocean hasn't been great since Pt. 2. Tri-Ace should just develop a Valkyrie Profile 3 IMO.
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#47 ahmedkandil
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SO4 looks like FF13? thats quite a complement...
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#48 micky4889
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SO3 sucked so unless SO4 drastically changes i predict 7.5 - 8.5 at best
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#49 carlisledavid79
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Cant wait for both. No need to worry at all.
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#50 Veterngamer
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Star Ocean hasn't been great since Pt. 2. Tri-Ace should just develop a Valkyrie Profile 3 IMO.jasonharris48

And FF hasn't been good since FFX.... who has been on a longer losing spree?

FFX-2 - ugh, make me puke

FFXI - some of the races and classes were nice, but otherwise just a horrible MMO.

FFXII - didn't bother with it, as I've heard alot of bad things about it.

FFXIII - could go either way, could be great, could be absolutely mediocre

Give any Final Fantasy a different name and I guarantee you it'll get a lower score than it would with the name Final Fantasy. (this does not include Tactics, which is AWESOME)