360 owners dont worry, Star Ocean 4 looks just as Good as FF13

I always thought that the FF pic was concept art.

Anyhoo, after playing SO3, I'm really not that bothered about SO4.

[QUOTE="TheNuyorican"]

Can you send me a link to a video of FF13 released recently?

Oh, that's right. None of us know how FF13 will end up, or look. All we had was a target render.

Looking as good =/= Being as good

blitzkid1

yeah it does.

Lair was a great looking game...

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]Star Ocean hasn't been great since Pt. 2. Tri-Ace should just develop a Valkyrie Profile 3 IMO.Veterngamer

And FF hasn't been good since FFX.... who has been on a longer losing spree?

FFX-2 - ugh, make me puke

FFXI - some of the races and classes were nice, but otherwise just a horrible MMO.

FFXII - didn't bother with it, as I've heard alot of bad things about it.

FFXIII - could go either way, could be great, could be absolutely mediocre

Give any Final Fantasy a different name and I guarantee you it'll get a lower score than it would with the name Final Fantasy. (this does not include Tactics, which is AWESOME)

so you're comparing a really old ff13 pic to a recent star ocean pic?NuclearFreedom

MGS4 looked 3 to 4 times better back in 05 and 06

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]Star Ocean hasn't been great since Pt. 2. Tri-Ace should just develop a Valkyrie Profile 3 IMO.jasonharris48

And FF hasn't been good since FFX.... who has been on a longer losing spree?

FFX-2 - ugh, make me puke

FFXI - some of the races and classes were nice, but otherwise just a horrible MMO.

FFXII - didn't bother with it, as I've heard alot of bad things about it.

FFXIII - could go either way, could be great, could be absolutely mediocre

Give any Final Fantasy a different name and I guarantee you it'll get a lower score than it would with the name Final Fantasy. (this does not include Tactics, which is AWESOME)

so I'd like to know where you have seen FF13? Are you talking about the 2 year old pics?

I find it funny people can't even wait for the game to be shown and they have to say "well it's not that good....mine is just as pretty". FF13 being exclusive to PS3 really does bother Lems doesn't it.

[QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"]so you're comparing a really old ff13 pic to a recent star ocean pic?ReturnOfShinobi

MGS4 looked 3 to 4 times better back in 05 and 06

Really......3 to 4 times you say. Please back that up with some pics please. I seriously doubt it looked 3 to 4 times.....I can't even remember seeing what MGS4 looked like until it was shown 2nd half of last year. You are saying they showed it 3 years ago.....where is your proof? Heck even KZ2 CGI didn't look 3 to 4 times better than that target render they did back in 05.

[QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"]

[QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"]so you're comparing a really old ff13 pic to a recent star ocean pic?darthogre

MGS4 looked 3 to 4 times better back in 05 and 06

Really......3 to 4 times you say. Please back that up with some pics please. I seriously doubt it looked 3 to 4 times.....I can't even remember seeing what MGS4 looked like until it was shown 2nd half of last year. You are saying they showed it 3 years ago.....where is your proof? Heck even KZ2 CGI didn't look 3 to 4 times better than that target render they did back in 05.

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/714044/metal-gear-solid-4/videos/mgs4_06vs08_060608.html

Judge for yourself, regardless, the game looked MUCH better. The current MGS4 IMHO isnt all the impressive, it looks good, but nothing that blows your socks off. I honestly think AC looks better

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="ReturnOfShinobi"]

[QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"]so you're comparing a really old ff13 pic to a recent star ocean pic?ReturnOfShinobi

MGS4 looked 3 to 4 times better back in 05 and 06

Really......3 to 4 times you say. Please back that up with some pics please. I seriously doubt it looked 3 to 4 times.....I can't even remember seeing what MGS4 looked like until it was shown 2nd half of last year. You are saying they showed it 3 years ago.....where is your proof? Heck even KZ2 CGI didn't look 3 to 4 times better than that target render they did back in 05.

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/714044/metal-gear-solid-4/videos/mgs4_06vs08_060608.html

Judge for yourself, regardless, the game looked MUCH better. The current MGS4 IMHO isnt all the impressive, it looks good, but nothing that blows your socks off. I honestly think AC looks better

lol, I just watched that.....you are comparing cut scenes to each other.....not even gameplay?

And for the record the only difference that I see is the final build is brighter and the older one is darker. Where does 3 to 4 times better ever come in? After seeing what you were refering too it's an even more ridiculous statement than before.

It's sad when fanboyism gets in the way of 2 of the best RPG series ever made...FF and SO

Who cares? I have both consoles, will get to play them both, sucks for all of you Brand lovers bickering back and forth. I question if some of you even qualify as gamers.

whats even better is Star ocean will be released first, beating out FF13 by default.

its quite embarassing for PS3 to loose by defalut......to a franchise that was previously Sony exclusive.

I think we should wait for gameplay vids of both before we compare the graphics. :roll:

whats even better is Star ocean will be released first, beating out FF13 by default.

its quite embarassing for PS3 to loose by defalut......to a franchise that was previously Sony exclusive.

-GhostMLD-

What? So now whatever gets released first is 'better'. :|

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

whats even better is Star ocean will be released first, beating out FF13 by default.

its quite embarassing for PS3 to loose by defalut......to a franchise that was previously Sony exclusive.

Storm_Marine

What? So now whatever gets released first is 'better'. :|

what doesnt exist cannot recieve a grade. Something with a score is better then something that has a 0 for not existing.

Technically, Big Rigs was a better game then MGS4 BEFORE it released.

1 > 0 (for not yet existing).

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

whats even better is Star ocean will be released first, beating out FF13 by default.

its quite embarassing for PS3 to loose by defalut......to a franchise that was previously Sony exclusive.

Storm_Marine

What? So now whatever gets released first is 'better'. :|

He also stated that Supreme Commander (360) and Operation Darkness (if that's the name of that Atlus game) beat the PS3 version by default because they didn't exist:roll:

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

whats even better is Star ocean will be released first, beating out FF13 by default.

its quite embarassing for PS3 to loose by defalut......to a franchise that was previously Sony exclusive.

-GhostMLD-

What? So now whatever gets released first is 'better'. :|

what doesnt exist cannot recieve a grade. Something with a score is better then something that has a 0 for not existing.

Technically, Big Rigs was a better game then MGS4 BEFORE it released.

1 > 0 (for not yet existing).

By that definition and here in gamespot MGS4 (10 AAAAE) >>> then anything on 360.

Thanks for clearing that up

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

whats even better is Star ocean will be released first, beating out FF13 by default.

its quite embarassing for PS3 to loose by defalut......to a franchise that was previously Sony exclusive.

-GhostMLD-

What? So now whatever gets released first is 'better'.

what doesnt exist cannot recieve a grade.

That's why you should wait for both of them to release before you compare them. Neither of them win or lose by default just because one releases first.

By the way, I thought both of them have a TBA 09 release date. :|

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

whats even better is Star ocean will be released first, beating out FF13 by default.

its quite embarassing for PS3 to loose by defalut......to a franchise that was previously Sony exclusive.

-GhostMLD-

What? So now whatever gets released first is 'better'. :|

1 > 0 (for not yet existing).

What the heck? So all unreleased games currently have scores of 0\10? :?

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

whats even better is Star ocean will be released first, beating out FF13 by default.

its quite embarassing for PS3 to loose by defalut......to a franchise that was previously Sony exclusive.

carlisledavid79

What? So now whatever gets released first is 'better'. :|

what doesnt exist cannot recieve a grade. Something with a score is better then something that has a 0 for not existing.

Technically, Big Rigs was a better game then MGS4 BEFORE it released.

1 > 0 (for not yet existing).

By that definition and here in gamespot MGS4 (10 AAAAE) >>> then anything on 360.

Thanks for clearing that up

i hope that meant MGS4 > any grade less then 10.

Gears of War + Bomberman Act Zero > MSG4 if im correct with ur logic.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

whats even better is Star ocean will be released first, beating out FF13 by default.

its quite embarassing for PS3 to loose by defalut......to a franchise that was previously Sony exclusive.

Storm_Marine

What? So now whatever gets released first is 'better'. :|

1 > 0 (for not yet existing).

What the heck? So all unreleased games currently have scores of 0\10? :?

simple concept. What is not released is a 0 until reviewed.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

whats even better is Star ocean will be released first, beating out FF13 by default.

its quite embarassing for PS3 to loose by defalut......to a franchise that was previously Sony exclusive.

-GhostMLD-

What? So now whatever gets released first is 'better'. :|

1 > 0 (for not yet existing).

What the heck? So all unreleased games currently have scores of 0\10? :?

simple concept. What is not released is a 0 until reviewed.

That's a....errr....interesting way of looking at it....I guess.

Holy s*** it's LOSE.

L O S E

L O S E

I am going to create a union called "The GameSpot School" because 90% of System Wars probably doesn't go to school or hasn't made it past 2nd grade. It's bad enough you guys are extremely annoying fanboys with a five year old's mentality, on top of that you can't even spell.

Example of how to properly use the word lose:

You are going to lose the game.

Example of how to properly use the word loose:

Your shoelaces are loose.

[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

whats even better is Star ocean will be released first, beating out FF13 by default.

its quite embarassing for PS3 to loose by defalut......to a franchise that was previously Sony exclusive.

-GhostMLD-

What? So now whatever gets released first is 'better'. :|

what doesnt exist cannot recieve a grade. Something with a score is better then something that has a 0 for not existing.

Technically, Big Rigs was a better game then MGS4 BEFORE it released.

1 > 0 (for not yet existing).

By that definition and here in gamespot MGS4 (10 AAAAE) >>> then anything on 360.

Thanks for clearing that up

i hope that meant MGS4 > any grade less then 10.

Gears of War + Bomberman Act Zero > MSG4 if im correct with ur logic.

You knew what I ment. But thanks for trying to spin it. Your logic still stands though. MGS4 > then any single scoring game on Xbox360.

Going by your quote not mine.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

whats even better is Star ocean will be released first, beating out FF13 by default.

its quite embarassing for PS3 to loose by defalut......to a franchise that was previously Sony exclusive.

-GhostMLD-

What? So now whatever gets released first is 'better'. :|

1 > 0 (for not yet existing).

What the heck? So all unreleased games currently have scores of 0\10? :?

simple concept. What is not released is a 0 until reviewed.

Well your entire logic is screwed anyway. There is absolutely no indication that SO4 will be released before FF XIII. All we know right now is that both games are targeted for 2009, and that focus has been shifted to ramp up production on FF XIII... which may mean they are entering the polishing/bug testing phases of development. We also know that SO4 is likely to be announced for the PS3 as well, while FF XIII is not likely to be announced for the 360 at this point.

When asked about SO4 on the PS3, the answer is that it's still under consideration. When asked about FF XIII on the 360, the answer is a flat out no.

Lastly, I think both titles will be AWESOME and should be enjoyed by any gamer that has a chance to play them. BUT the SO franchise has not produced any AAA games in the series... just about all FF games are AAA. And since that's all that lems care about... gives you something to think about.

Holy s*** it's LOSE.

L O S E

L O S E

I am going to create a union called "The GameSpot School" because 90% of System Wars probably doesn't go to school or hasn't made it past 2nd grade. It's bad enough you guys are extremely annoying fanboys with a five year old's mentality, on top of that you can't even spell.

Example of how to properly use the word lose:

You are going to lose the game.

Example of how to properly use the word loose:

Your shoelaces are loose.

TheNuyorican

Lol, I don't mind fanboys... some of them are cool. And I think it's natural to have a favorite system even if you own more than one... it's the BLIND fanboys that are irritating as hell on this site. The ones that like to take up arguments without any logic to support them at all. And yes, Ghost certainly qualifies :P.