360 users have to pay for a patch - Nascar 2011

Anyone playing Nascar deserves to pay for an update.

Lto_thaG

Id gladly pay for this patch. It helps Microsoft make money that they can use to improve the service.

USBxDVD

[QUOTE="PtothaWHAT"]

I don;t understand why it was free for one and not the other.

ShadowMoses900

Because PSN is open so developers are free to handle things their way, which makes the developers very happy with Sony.

With Xbox Live MS doesn't let devs do handle their own games the way they want to, instead MS decides what happens. And this pisses alot of devs off, like Epic games and Valve, MS basically runs Xbox Live like a dictator controlling an authoritive state, you can't handle your game like you want, you have to let MS decide for you.

It is very unfair and while the game is stupid and no one is going to buy it, that is still no reason to downplay it and pretend it's nothing. The devs made thier game and they have every right to gie thier fans what they want. And it's not right that MS says they can't.

very misleading

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] So basically you say it's called an add-on so MS can charge and Sony call it an update so it's free? It's still pathetic of MS charging for it in the first place.kris9031998

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[QUOTE="PtothaWHAT"]

I don;t understand why it was free for one and not the other.

-RocBoys9489-

Because PSN is open so developers are free to handle things their way, which makes the developers very happy with Sony.

With Xbox Live MS doesn't let devs do handle their own games the way they want to, instead MS decides what happens. And this pisses alot of devs off, like Epic games and Valve, MS basically runs Xbox Live like a dictator controlling an authoritive state, you can't handle your game like you want, you have to let MS decide for you.

It is very unfair and while the game is stupid and no one is going to buy it, that is still no reason to downplay it and pretend it's nothing. The devs made thier game and they have every right to gie thier fans what they want. And it's not right that MS says they can't.

Because MS allows up to 5 "free" patches/DLC sometimes. Although MS does have the final say if they want to or not, the fact is Sony is open to devs so PSN is more friendly to them while MS keeps Xbox Live closed. Valve, Epic, and plenty of other devs have complained about MS Xbox Live policies.

It ultimately comes down to MS, and that's it.

[QUOTE="USBxDVD"]

Id gladly pay for this patch. It helps Microsoft make money that they can use to improve the service.

kris9031998

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] If they dev/publisher wants the DLC to be free, it's up to them to pay the fee's for hosting that DLC on MS's servers, otherwise we, the consumer, get to pay that fee. It's simple as that. I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure Sony has a similar policy.tormentos

Tormentos man, just give up. I tired to explain this to SO many people but they keep refusing to listen, your 100% correct but they are just going to keep believing whatever helps them justify it.

They will never be able to rebuttal the points you just made, so instead they will choose to ignore it. Sorry man but you just gotta enjoy what you enjoy and let other people live in bliss...

The only people that would spend money on that patch is hardcore Nascar fans...

shame that people gotta pay though. Maybe this should've been an actual patch instead of a downloadable add-on though...

The only people that would spend money on that patch is hardcore Nascar fans...

shame that people gotta pay though. Maybe this should've been an actual patch instead of a downloadable add-on though...

timmy00

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

The only people that would spend money on that patch is hardcore Nascar fans...

shame that people gotta pay though. Maybe this should've been an actual patch instead of a downloadable add-on though...

dotWithShoes

This is just weird. Why didn't they include the add-on with the patch for the 360 version of the game.

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="timmy00"]

The only people that would spend money on that patch is hardcore Nascar fans...

shame that people gotta pay though. Maybe this should've been an actual patch instead of a downloadable add-on though...

timmy00

Seems like the same as the Gears or L4D issue, devs want it free but MS wants it to be paid for content just for that extra consumer milky goodness :P

Kinda sorry state when your competitor in the markets offering the ability for free updates and a 360 user has to pay for that extra stuff which has been classified as free and inclusive in a game patch on another console.

Thats my 2 cents mind you looking at a couple of topics i'll be eaten alive by silly lemmings claiming b-b-b-but its content not a patch.

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="PtothaWHAT"]

I don;t understand why it was free for one and not the other.

Bigboi500

http://us.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/nascar-2011-the-game/review_updates.html?id=84

"This update is free for PlayStation 3 owners and is included with the second patch. Xbox 360 owners must pony up 160 Microsoft points ($2)."

My goodnees, what is going on with Activision? it just keeps getting worse.

Sorry can't hyperlink.

EZs

Yes I'm sure Activision singled out MS for paying. I'm sure it has nothing to do with MS or anything.

So I guess if you play the ps3 version, you have to get the update..where as the 360 players have options. options are always bad.dotWithShoes

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] Where did the post from GameSpot say that people are paying for the patch?dotWithShoes

I don't need it when I'm tired because either way I'm going to herp derp my posts somehow. :[

:P

Its a content patch it ad's content...seems to me thats DLC and not actually a patch.

Its a content patch it ad's content...seems to me thats DLC and not actually a patch.

WilliamRLBaker

thats what you get for supporting/defending pay to play online (XBL), be prepared for the next stage of rip offs , ms already has some plans for sure

Maybe Activision is testing their new venture for MW3. Maybe the lucky CoD elite subscribers will get patches free!

[QUOTE="Jerell_rast"]Wtf for a patch? This is a first.dotWithShoes

So its 2 dollars for a patch then. Glad you proved the OP's point by saying it was free on the other system. What a load of BS.

Maybe Activision is testing their new venture for MW3. Maybe the lucky CoD elite subscribers will get patches free!

Grawse

As long as this doesn't become a habit by Publishers, I'm ok. As soon as this becomes the "norm", I'm switching to PC gaming.

Not really the case since it includes other DLC but W/E - I may as well add, at least 360 gamers know all their NASCAR 2011 personal & financial info will be kept safe. :twisted: :P

Wtf for a patch? This is a first.Jerell_rast

Not really the case since it includes other DLC but W/E - I may as well add, at least 360 gamers know all their NASCAR 2011 personal & financial info will be kept safe. :twisted: :P

SecretPolice

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Not really the case since it includes other DLC but W/E - I may as well add, at least 360 gamers know all their NASCAR 2011 personal & financial info will be kept safe. :twisted: :P

AmnesiaHaze

Eh, windows isn't XBL but really, I was just playing a bit of SW but okay, lets just say thus far, it's been proven to be at the very least ummm, safer. :o :P

SecretPolice

MW3 day one patch - $15 :P

Eh, windows isn't XBL but really, I was just playing a bit of SW but okay, lets just say thus far, it's been proven to be at the very least ummm, safer. :o :P

SecretPolice

The only thing that has been proven is that Microsoft hasn't had XBL compromised to the same extent yet. For all we know they could be even less secure, but people haven't compromised them yet for whatever reason.

Security is relative and can only be proven through penetration testing and auditing, neither of which have been publicized by Microsoft to my knowledge.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Eh, windows isn't XBL but really, I was just playing a bit of SW but okay, lets just say thus far, it's been proven to be at the very least ummm, safer. :o :P

Aidenfury19

The only thing that has been proven is that Microsoft hasn't had XBL compromised to the same extent yet. For all we know they could be even less secure, but people haven't compromised them yet for whatever reason.

Security is relative and can only be proven through penetration testing and auditing, neither of which have been publicized by Microsoft to my knowledge.

Anyhoo, getting a bit too off topic so just ummm, forgetaboutit. :P

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Eh, windows isn't XBL but really, I was just playing a bit of SW but okay, lets just say thus far, it's been proven to be at the very least ummm, safer. :o :P

Aidenfury19

The only thing that has been proven is that Microsoft hasn't had XBL compromised to the same extent yet. For all we know they could be even less secure, but people haven't compromised them yet for whatever reason.

Security is relative and can only be proven through penetration testing and auditing, neither of which have been publicized by Microsoft to my knowledge.

XBL is a more closed system than PSN which equals more secure system,common sense buddelta3074

This makes it easier to secure, but by no means guarantees that it is more secure. Network security is a very complicated topic and I promise you that your assumption is just that.

GT 5 released about 10 patches and updates, yet all of them is free...