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Why is Gran Turismo 5 Prologue: 7.5, Ratchet & Clank QfB: 7.5 ,Siren Blood Curse: 7 on the PSN list and not Socom.

All of them have a Retail version.

Are you including games like Africa and Aqua?

Why is PC/360 included and not a PC list?

Street Fighter alpha (PSN) did it get reviewed?

edit : Some people don't know the meaning of "exclusives".

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1st off: siren gtp and r&c were mainly Digitally Distributed, or so it seems. GTP is a demo so I put it in PSN. No one else seems to care they are there.

2nd: Afrika doesn't even have a flipping release date on its page. And i don't know what "Aqua" you're talking about.

3rd: Title clearly states 360 vs PS3, if you can play it on 360 and not ps3, it counts on the list, and vice versa. This not 360 vs PS3 vs PC vs Wii.

4th: I do not see a page for "Street Fighter Alpha" for the ps3, the latest review for that game was 2006.

Any other questions..?
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updated with MS2 - 8.0
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#53 hopesfall2own
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updated for Gears and Resistance, and a few xbla/psn titles.
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#54 Jack_Bauer07
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[QUOTE="lesner87"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

If you're going to include PC games (which is weak imo) , then you should include MLB The Show 08 - 8.5 to at least be consistent.

hopesfall2own

The funny thing is he is claiming to not be biased. He also included Prologue under PSN games :?



Is prologue available on a disc?

Yea dude...its a full game with over 60 cars,tons of tracks and online.And you missed on Wipeout HD.The most underrated game of this fall.

well i thought it was only available through DD, but its not really that big of a deal since its a demo essentially. And Wipeout is up there :)

I thought you said you were making this list with "no bias"? Prologue is a retail game even if it's short on content.

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#55 hopesfall2own
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I've already explained it like 3 times, it's where it belongs.
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#56 AlphaGamer469
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ROFL at cows trying to argue PSN when the top 4 XBLA games destroy the PSN list...
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#57 LOXO7
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The system list isnt in alphabetical order. Biased

360. PC/360. PS3. PSN. XBLA

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#58 hopesfall2own
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The system list isnt in alphabetical order. Biased

360. PC/360. PS3. PSN. XBLA

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rofl sry, too complicated for me :(

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#59 Nike_Air
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Exclusive disc games -

Gamespot

  • 9.0 - Gears of War 2
  • 8.5 - Fable 2
  • 8.5 - Tales of Vesperia
  • 8.5 - Viva Pinata TiP
  • 8.0 - Ninja Gaiden 2

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  • 10 - Metal Gear Solid Guns of The Patriots
  • 9.0 - LittleBigPlanet
  • 9.0 - Resistance 2
  • 8.0 - Motorstorm Pacific Rift

Gamerankings - needs 20 reviews to qualify

  • 94 - Gears of War 2
  • 89 - Fable 2
  • 83 - Tales of Vesperia
  • 83 - Viva Pinata TiP
  • 82 - Ninja Gaiden 2

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  • 95 - LittleBigPlanet
  • 93 - Metal Gears Solid 4
  • 83 - Singstar
  • 82 - Hot Shots Golf
  • 81 - Disgaea 3
  • 81 - Buzz Quiz TV
  • 80 - Motorstorm 2
  • 80 - GT5 Prologue

Updated

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I'll update the list every week or so and try and keep things up to date.

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[QUOTE="Krigon"]

Why is Gran Turismo 5 Prologue: 7.5, Ratchet & Clank QfB: 7.5 ,Siren Blood Curse: 7 on the PSN list and not Socom.

All of them have a Retail version.

Are you including games like Africa and Aqua?

Why is PC/360 included and not a PC list?

Street Fighter alpha (PSN) did it get reviewed?

edit : Some people don't know the meaning of "exclusives".

hopesfall2own



1st off: siren gtp and r&c were mainly Digitally Distributed, or so it seems. GTP is a demo so I put it in PSN. No one else seems to care they are there.

2nd: Afrika doesn't even have a flipping release date on its page. And i don't know what "Aqua" you're talking about.

3rd: Title clearly states 360 vs PS3, if you can play it on 360 and not ps3, it counts on the list, and vice versa. This not 360 vs PS3 vs PC vs Wii.

4th: I do not see a page for "Street Fighter Alpha" for the ps3, the latest review for that game was 2006.

Any other questions..?

why is that so hard to understand

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#61 skiddy666
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[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="Krigon"]

Why is Gran Turismo 5 Prologue: 7.5, Ratchet & Clank QfB: 7.5 ,Siren Blood Curse: 7 on the PSN list and not Socom.

All of them have a Retail version.

Are you including games like Africa and Aqua?

Why is PC/360 included and not a PC list?

Street Fighter alpha (PSN) did it get reviewed?

edit : Some people don't know the meaning of "exclusives".

gamer-adam1



1st off: siren gtp and r&c were mainly Digitally Distributed, or so it seems. GTP is a demo so I put it in PSN. No one else seems to care they are there.

2nd: Afrika doesn't even have a flipping release date on its page. And i don't know what "Aqua" you're talking about.

3rd: Title clearly states 360 vs PS3, if you can play it on 360 and not ps3, it counts on the list, and vice versa. This not 360 vs PS3 vs PC vs Wii.

4th: I do not see a page for "Street Fighter Alpha" for the ps3, the latest review for that game was 2006.

Any other questions..?

why is that so hard to understand

LMAO....The Title clearly reads 360 vs PS3 (Exclusives!) so far

last time I checked if the game can be found on a PC, its not exclusive.

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#62 too_much_eslim
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there are a lot more XBLA games then that this year. If your going to make an XBLA list go all out.
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#64 krunkfu2
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I still can't believe NGII got an 8

and nor did I know that GT5:P got a 7

that's weird

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#65 ronniepage588
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well Socom review should be an 8 or 8.5 now that the servers are fixed. jerks.

and wipeoutHD got excellent scores like over 9 everywhere except gamespot. i posted the pic from wikipedia here once showing all of the scores. GS's stood out like a sore thumb.

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#66 ronniepage588
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good post though, shows how our exclusive line-up has dominated.
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#67 Helbrec
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They should compare all the multiplats that xbox360 creams ps3 in :)
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#69 Fumpa
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One telling sign that the 360 is doing better is that you'll see 360 titles listed in the top 10 a whole lot more often than you see PS3 games listed there.

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#70 Pro_wrestler
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Wheres the Wii?
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#71 Koalakommander
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they gave wipeout HD a 7.5!? GS is so terrible, i wonder how they still manage to suprise me.
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#72 XturnalS
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I like how the OP states "no bias" then TC puts GT5P and Siren in the PSN category. haha laughable bad.

And while XBLA has had better content this year, its clear to see the PS3 has had the better year. Even with Lems trying to hold on to L4D for their trump card, I'm a kermit and i'm going to be able to play it on my PC.

LR is coming to the PS3 next year and Banjo is offset by VC. Hate to sound like a broken record but MGS4 is the trump card in my eyes.

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#73 foxhound_fox
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There is a such thing as console exclusive, despite what these forums say. I think that is what he was going for and I am sure you know that. This thread is comparing what one console has over the other just bc a game is on the pc does not mean you can't play on a 360. Nor does it mean you can play it on a ps3, either way this thread is good for those who care about scores.Grady420

No, there is no such thing as a "console exclusive." That term only exists to undermine the viability of the PC as a competent gaming platform. If I can play a game on the PC without even having to touch a console, then the game is multiplatform. No if's, and's or but's about it.

A game that is available on PC as well as 360 is in no way an advantage for the 360 since one does not need a 360 to play it nor does Microsoft benefit from people buying the PC version (since they don't manufacture PC hardware nor are most PC games "Windows exclusive").
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#74 50u1r34v3r
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[QUOTE="Grady420"]There is a such thing as console exclusive, despite what these forums say. I think that is what he was going for and I am sure you know that. This thread is comparing what one console has over the other just bc a game is on the pc does not mean you can't play on a 360. Nor does it mean you can play it on a ps3, either way this thread is good for those who care about scores.foxhound_fox

No, there is no such thing as a "console exclusive." That term only exists to undermine the viability of the PC as a competent gaming platform. If I can play a game on the PC without even having to touch a console, then the game is multiplatform. No if's, and's or but's about it.

A game that is available on PC as well as 360 is in no way an advantage for the 360 since one does not need a 360 to play it nor does Microsoft benefit from people buying the PC version (since they don't manufacture PC hardware nor are most PC games "Windows exclusive").

While I totally agree that if a game is also available on another platform it´s not exclusive, saying it doesn´t benefit the 360 if a game is also on the PC isn´t true IMO.

Many gamers go for a console. (whether it for its easy to use nature or controller or price)

When a game I am interested in is available on 360/PC it's not on the PS3, which is another reason for me to go for the 360 instead of the PS3.

EDIT: Typo.

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#75 hopesfall2own
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there are a lot more XBLA games then that this year. If your going to make an XBLA list go all out.too_much_eslim
PM me the titles, there's so much its hard to keep track of which ones are on XBLA but not PSN.
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#76 PAL360
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I think both are having great years. Sony deserves some credit considering 2007
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#77 darkmoney52
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They should compare all the multiplats that xbox360 creams ps3 in :)Helbrec

For the most part, they haven't lately. Only game I can think of is Fallout 3.

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#78 darthogre
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Should have put Wii up there....
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#79 darthogre
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360 has had the better yearMkavanaugh77

according to what logic?

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#80 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"]360 has had the better yeardarthogre

according to what logic?

Maybe he's talking overall, like with retail and downloadable games, announcements, sales, dashboards upgrades etc?

PS3 has won when it comes to retail games, and probably worldwide sales too. 360 wins with XBLA games. Id also say the 360 wins when it comes to announcements (it arguably had the best showing at E3 and TGS) and then we have NXE on the way too?

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#81 darthogre
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[QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"]360 has had the better year-DrRobotnik-

according to what logic?

Maybe he's talking overall, like with retail and downloadable games, announcements, sales, dashboards upgrades etc?

PS3 has won when it comes to retail games, and probably worldwide sales too. 360 wins with XBLA games. Id also say the 360 wins when it comes to announcements (it arguably had the best showing at E3 and TGS) and then we have NXE on the way too?

They won at E3 and TGS because they stole 3rd party exclusives? It's great ownage, no doubt, but saying 360 has won the year because of that.......I'm sorry.......I'm not sure how I play "ownage at E3/TGS".

Overall PS3 has won the year when compared to X360......they have somewhat recovered from horrible hardware sales and defintely turned around this idea that it has no good games. Right now they essentially have the best exclusives for the year.

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#82 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"]360 has had the better yeardarthogre

according to what logic?

Maybe he's talking overall, like with retail and downloadable games, announcements, sales, dashboards upgrades etc?

PS3 has won when it comes to retail games, and probably worldwide sales too. 360 wins with XBLA games. Id also say the 360 wins when it comes to announcements (it arguably had the best showing at E3 and TGS) and then we have NXE on the way too?

They won at E3 and TGS because they stole 3rd party exclusives? It's great ownage, no doubt, but saying 360 has won the year because of that.......I'm sorry.......I'm not sure how I play "ownage at E3/TGS".

Overall PS3 has won the year when compared to X360......they have somewhat recovered from horrible hardware sales and defintely turned around this idea that it has no good games. Right now they essentially have the best exclusives for the year.

No, the only reason they won at E3 was because the competition wasnt great. Sony had a decent showing, but nintys was just a joke:P

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#83 EuroMafia
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[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]I'll do this with no bias, so let's look:

PC/360:

C&C 3: 7.5
Universe at War:
6.5
Supreme Commander:
5


Any changes or additions let me know. Remember this just the EXCLUSIVES for 2008.hopesfall2own

For reference, could I have you definition of exclusive?

Edit: I see you also have Duke Nukem on there. Er...

well this is 360 vs ps3, thus its 360 exclusive in regards for these stats. duke nukem isn't on PSN, or at least it isnt listed as such on gamespot's page.

Yeah, he didn't make this thread to start a war... or did he? :P
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#84 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]

Ps3 is teh current winnar.

hopesfall2own

Like i said, the only way you can do it fairly is to take into account the # of titles per platform. Total points / # of games = average score. And you must count the pc/360 cause I added ps3/ps2, all the games on the list are legit exclusives for comparing 360 to ps3.

The average score doesn't prove much...

You could have 10 billion 9.5 games on one console versus a console with one 10 game and the console with the AAAA would still win.

well the way you are doing it is basically giving more importance to the number of titles rather than the scores. If you got 10 titles of 7s, compared to 5 titles of 9s, your data is going to be skewed. See what i mean? Averages are more fair.

No.

I'm giving importance to both score and quantity, and though it is slightly in favour of quantity, it's better than solely using quality like averages do.

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#85 Sins-of-Mosin
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All I need to do is look at the software sales to see which console is winning and that would be the Xbox 360.
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#86 Truth_wiser
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The 360 had a nice flow og quality exclusives this year

EI tales of vesperia ninja gaiden fable 2 etc

But overall it looked like it was Sonys year

To the future !!!! 2009 !!!!

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#87 angelkimne
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All I need to do is look at the software sales to see which console is winning and that would be the Xbox 360.Sins-of-Mosin
And sales have anything to do with it.. why?
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#88 tmntPunchout
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[QUOTE="Sins-of-Mosin"]All I need to do is look at the software sales to see which console is winning and that would be the Xbox 360.angelkimne
And sales have anything to do with it.. why?

He thinks sales and scores are the same thing.

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#89 SambaLele
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The PS3 is collecting the benefits of investing in new IPs in it's first gen games, like they did with Resistance, Motorstorm and Uncharted. Not to mention the existing franchises we all know...

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#90 tomertr
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cool, can you make a gameranking list too? i would like to know what the average is.
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#91 naruto7777
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i hope the 360 has some sort of ace that will be system selller
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#92 -DrRobotnik-
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i hope the 360 has some sort of ace that will be system selllernaruto7777

Yup, Lips.

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#93 Ren_eko
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cool, can you make a gameranking list too? i would like to know what the average is. tomertr

A gamerankings list would have to be on the gamerankings forum(if they have one idk).

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#94 hopesfall2own
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updated for l4d, banjo, last remnant, kingdom for keflings, & Lips...still waiting on VC
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#95 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="tomertr"]cool, can you make a gameranking list too? i would like to know what the average is. Ren_eko

A gamerankings list would have to be on the gamerankings forum(if they have one idk).

Not really. There's no rule that stops anyone from posting one here.
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#96 bleehum
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Why did you put L4D on the list, it's not exclusive....
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#97 kingdre
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Why did you put L4D on the list, it's not exclusive....bleehum
Exactly. If a game appears one more than one platform, console or otherwise, it's NOT an exclusive.
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#98 hopesfall2own
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[QUOTE="bleehum"]Why did you put L4D on the list, it's not exclusive....kingdre
Exactly. If a game appears one more than one platform, console or otherwise, it's NOT an exclusive.

Can either of you read the title of the thread? Not hard to comprehend, unless you want to keep using 2 systems vs 1.
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#99 Derek240
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Left for Dead, Supreme Commander, and C&C3 are not 360 exclusives.
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#100 Derek240
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[QUOTE="kingdre"][QUOTE="bleehum"]Why did you put L4D on the list, it's not exclusive....hopesfall2own
Exactly. If a game appears one more than one platform, console or otherwise, it's NOT an exclusive.

Can either of you read the title of the thread? Not hard to comprehend, unless you want to keep using 2 systems vs 1.

The definition of multiplat is more than 1 system. Stop trying to gain more exlusives fanboy.