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#1 JW320
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I already own a Wii, but I am thinking about getting a second console. I'm 16 years old, so I will only be able to play some of the M rated titles, but not all. Which system is better for a 16 year old, the 360 or the PS3. Also, which system has better games in general? Thanks in advance for your help.
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#2 eklineage
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i prefer gameson the ps3 more...the console is more reliable too
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#3 NinjaMunkey01
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Get a ps3 and I will add you to my friends list! :D

Seriously though, it depends on what your friends have, as you will wnt to play against them online. I would get a ps3 personally due to its lineup but the 360 is good too. gears 2 online will be fun. I dont know about its other games though.

also you will get some people who seem to think that the ps3 has no games, truth is, both consoles have enough great games for you to enjoy. saying the ps3 does not have games is either a lie, or a comment made by an idiot.

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#4 bungie93
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Xbox 360.

Why? One word...

Games

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#5 vickissv2
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well if you're 16 shouldn't you not be able to play ANY of the M rated games? Anyway it's a toss up and depends on which games you like more.
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#6 Shinobi120
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Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.
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#7 angelkimne
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This is how i would choose my console to be honest :)

360 has more titles in the 90's,80's andm 70's regions.

I mean in the 90's alone 360 has more than Ps3, Wii and PSP put together.

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#8 bungie93
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well if you're 16 shouldn't you not be able to play ANY of the M rated games? Anyway it's a toss up and depends on which games you like more. vickissv2

Most parents let 16 year olds play M rated games.

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#9 bungie93
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Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.garland51

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

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#10 bungie93
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Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.garland51

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

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#11 angelkimne
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well if you're 16 shouldn't you not be able to play ANY of the M rated games? Anyway it's a toss up and depends on which games you like more. vickissv2
Maybe his family believe's he might not become a psychotic killer and trust him enough to let him get the games :)
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#12 st1ka
Member since 2008 • 8179 Posts

make a list of all the PS3 and 360 games you want, choose the console with the bigger list

go here and here

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#13 Shinobi120
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[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.bungie93

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

That's because the developers are much lazier at designing them & making the games multiplatform.

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#14 PS_Family
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In my unbiased point of view you should get a PS3. It has a much brighter future of great games and free online gaming.

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#15 patriots7672
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i prefer gameson the ps3 more...the console is more reliable tooeklineage

What he said unless you're a huge halo or gears fan and have no life at all so you need to pay $50/yr so you can have a life through xlive and wont mind sending your 360 in for a new one when it fails like mine did twice(failed hdd, then RRoD). Now I just own 2 PS3s.

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#16 EuroMafia
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360.
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#17 st1ka
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[QUOTE="garland51"][QUOTE="bungie93"]
Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.garland51
Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

That's because the developers are much lazier at designing them & making the games multiplatform.

have you ever noticed that whenever the term "lazy devs" appear the PS3 is always involved? [QUOTE="PS_Family"] In my unbiased point of view you should get a PS3 it has a much brighter future of great games and free online gaming.

oh yeah this was really unbias :roll:
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#18 patriots7672
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[QUOTE="garland51"][QUOTE="bungie93"] [QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.st1ka
Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

That's because the developers are much lazier at designing them & making the games multiplatform.

have you ever noticed that whenever the term "lazy devs" appear the PS3 is always involved?
In my unbiased point of view you should get a PS3 it has a much brighter future of great games and free online gaming. PS_Family
oh yeah this was really unbias :roll:

It's lazy devs when you look at Uncharted, MGS 4, and Ratchet that were designed for PS3 and look stunning compared to crappy multiplats.

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#19 PS_Family
Member since 2008 • 590 Posts

Oh, and since you're a minor there are some big titles for everyone coming like Ratchet and Clank, Little Big Planet, Fat Princess, etc.

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#20 st1ka
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[QUOTE="patriots7672"]
[QUOTE="garland51"][QUOTE="bungie93"] [QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.st1ka
Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

That's because the developers are much lazier at designing them & making the games multiplatform.

have you ever noticed that whenever the term "lazy devs" appear the PS3 is always involved?
In my unbiased point of view you should get a PS3 it has a much brighter future of great games and free online gaming. PS_Family
oh yeah this was really unbias :roll:

It's lazy devs when you look at Uncharted, MGS 4, and Ratchet that were designed for PS3 and look stunning compared to crappy multiplats.

maybe they look better because they are exclusives? you know... just saying or maybe you think John Carmack is a lzy dev? http://kotaku.com/5025229/carmack-talks-from-idea-to-mac-gaming-and-ps3-programming
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[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="garland51"][QUOTE="bungie93"] [QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.patriots7672

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

That's because the developers are much lazier at designing them & making the games multiplatform.

have you ever noticed that whenever the term "lazy devs" appear the PS3 is always involved?
In my unbiased point of view you should get a PS3 it has a much brighter future of great games and free online gaming. PS_Family
oh yeah this was really unbias :roll:

It's lazy devs when you look at Uncharted, MGS 4, and Ratchet that were designed for PS3 and look stunning compared to crappy multiplats.

Says who? The Cows on System Wars? The PS3 will never be able to have graphics as good as Gears of War 2, and don't even mention Flopzone 2, the textures and lighting in that game are terrible.

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#22 st1ka
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Says who? The Cows on System Wars? The PS3 will never be able to have graphics as good as Gears of War 2, and don't even mention Flopzone 2, the textures and lighting in that game are terrible.

bungie93

from that statement alone youre just as bad as them

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[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.bungie93

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

If you werent so ignorant you would know that 360 could never really achieve 1080p even through an hdmi cable. Its upscaled. The fact that it plays DVD-9s is the proof that it cant technically produce REAL 1080p. Only through Blu-ray disc. You can't argue against the inevitable.

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#24 Haku_Ryushi
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[QUOTE="patriots7672"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="garland51"][QUOTE="bungie93"] [QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.bungie93

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

That's because the developers are much lazier at designing them & making the games multiplatform.

have you ever noticed that whenever the term "lazy devs" appear the PS3 is always involved?
In my unbiased point of view you should get a PS3 it has a much brighter future of great games and free online gaming. PS_Family
oh yeah this was really unbias :roll:

It's lazy devs when you look at Uncharted, MGS 4, and Ratchet that were designed for PS3 and look stunning compared to crappy multiplats.

Says who? The Cows on System Wars? The PS3 will never be able to have graphics as good as Gears of War 2, and don't even mention Flopzone 2, the textures and lighting in that game are terrible.

And the fact that Killzone 2 is STILL in alpha production and the way it looks right now, I think it can definitely surpass Gears of War 2 graphics which already has been with Metal Gear Solid 4 for your information. I suggest you go do your research before arguing against something that you have no knowledge about.

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#25 slystallion26
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free online that will surpass live with home

blu-ray

wiresless already installed instead of buying a 100 dollar wiresless attachment for 360

wider array of exclusives with ps3 as opposed to shooters shooters shooters

choice is clear go ps3

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#26 PS_Family
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Killzone 2 murdered Gears in prealpha. I can't believe people still doubt PS3's graphical capabilities.
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#27 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.Haku_Ryushi

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

If you werent so ignorant you would know that 360 could never really achieve 1080p even through an hdmi cable. Its upscaled. The fact that it plays DVD-9s is the proof that it cant technically produce REAL 1080p. Only through Blu-ray disc. You can't argue against the inevitable.

And how many Ps3 games this gen actually run in 1080p ???

Sorry but this gen's hardware just can't handle running games smoothly in native 1080p. Only 26 games on Ps3 run in 1080p. And lot's of them are PSN titles or low rated games.

EDIT : Now gotz list of Ps3 games in 1080p, here.

See most are mediocre/OK licenses or PSN titles that don't especially look good anyway.

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#28 taj7575
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Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.garland51

what is that supposed to mean? the 360 looks like the Wii?

seesh the 360 and ps3 have the same damn graphics you fool.

In the end, it depends on what ure friends play.

get a 360, live is fun, and you can get the pro for 300 dollars now.

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#29 st1ka
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free online that will surpass live with home

blu-ray

wiresless already installed instead of buying a 100 dollar wiresless attachment for 360

wider array of exclusives with ps3 as opposed to shooters shooters shooters

choice is clear go ps3

slystallion26

i like how most of your reasons were not game related and the only reason that WAS game related is a tasty morsel of sweet sweet irony

considering the ammount of shooters sony showed us just last week

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#30 bungie93
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[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="patriots7672"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="garland51"][QUOTE="bungie93"] [QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.Haku_Ryushi

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

That's because the developers are much lazier at designing them & making the games multiplatform.

have you ever noticed that whenever the term "lazy devs" appear the PS3 is always involved?
In my unbiased point of view you should get a PS3 it has a much brighter future of great games and free online gaming. PS_Family
oh yeah this was really unbias :roll:

It's lazy devs when you look at Uncharted, MGS 4, and Ratchet that were designed for PS3 and look stunning compared to crappy multiplats.

Says who? The Cows on System Wars? The PS3 will never be able to have graphics as good as Gears of War 2, and don't even mention Flopzone 2, the textures and lighting in that game are terrible.

And the fact that Killzone 2 is STILL in alpha production and the way it looks right now, I think it can definitely surpass Gears of War 2 graphics which already has been with Metal Gear Solid 4 for your information. I suggest you go do your research before arguing against something that you have no knowledge about.

When JOHN CARMACK and TIM SWEENEY say that the PS3 is weaker then the Xbox 360, your opinion means absolutely nothing.

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#31 taj7575
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[QUOTE="garland51"][QUOTE="bungie93"] [QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.st1ka
Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

That's because the developers are much lazier at designing them & making the games multiplatform.

have you ever noticed that whenever the term "lazy devs" appear the PS3 is always involved?
In my unbiased point of view you should get a PS3 it has a much brighter future of great games and free online gaming. PS_Family
oh yeah this was really unbias :roll:

lol8)

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#33 st1ka
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When JOHN CARMACK and TIM SWEENEY say that the PS3 is weaker then the Xbox 360, your opinion means absolutely nothing.

bungie93

John Carmack didnt say it was weaker :|

dont know about Tim Sweeney

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[QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.Haku_Ryushi

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

If you werent so ignorant you would know that 360 could never really achieve 1080p even through an hdmi cable. Its upscaled. The fact that it plays DVD-9s is the proof that it cant technically produce REAL 1080p. Only through Blu-ray disc. You can't argue against the inevitable.

Im sorry but you got owned bigtime, xbox360 CAN do games NATIVELY at 1080p. Reason why so many games are not for both xbox360 and PS3 is becouse the yare to weak by far to do it natively.

Xbox 360

Army of Two = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
Beijing 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Bioshock = 1280x720 (no AA)
Burnout: Paradise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) = 1040x624 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 4 (screenshot) = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Conan (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Conflict: Denied Ops (demo) = 1280x720p (2xAA)
Crash Time = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dark Sector = 1280x720 (no AA)
Dead or Alive 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dead Rising = 1280x720 ( up to 4xAA depending on frame rate)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Don King Prizefighter = 1024x630 (2xAA)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1024x600 (2xAA) - Same for GOTY Edition!
F.E.A.R. = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Fifa 2006 (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Fifa 2007 (demo) = 1200x675 (no AA)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
Forza 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA in-game, 4xAA replay & vehicle select)
Gears of War = 1280x720 (HD), 960x720 (SD) (2xAA on static objects?)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Guitar Hero 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Halo 3 = 1152x640 (no AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (2xAA)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (up to 4x MSAA dependent on framerate)
Mass Effect = 1280x720 (2xAA sometimes)
MotoGP 2006(screenshot) = 1280x1024 (framebuffer grab from AVS Forum member)
MX vs ATV = 1280x720 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (demo) = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
NCAA Football 08 (demo) = 1024x600 (2xAA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (4xAA, 60fps)
Ninja Gaiden 2 = 1120x585 (2xAA)
Overlord = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Perfect Dark Zero (demo) = 1152x640 (no AA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 6 (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Project Gotham Racing 3 (demo) = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Project Gotham Racing 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Quake 4 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (2xAA + blur)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ridge Racer 6 (demo) = 1440x810 (no AA)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (2xAA, 30fps)
Skate = 1280x720 (2xAA ? )
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (4xAA sometimes)
Splinter Cell Double Agent = 1280x720 (4xAA) (developer)
The Club = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Tomb Raider Legend = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Tony Hawk's Project 8 (screenshot) = 1040x585 (2xAA)
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground = 1280x720
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty = 1280x720 (no AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Unreal Tournament III = 1280x720 (no AA)
Virtua Fighter 5 (demo) = 1024x1024 (4xAA)
Virtua Tennis 3 (demo) = 1920x1080 (2xAA)


Playstation 3

Army of Two = 1280x720 (no AA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (QAA)
Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
Beijing 2008 = 960x720 or 768x1080 (no AA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (no AA)
Burnout: Paradise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) ~1088x624 (2x AA)
Call of Duty 4 = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (QAA), 1920x1080 (QAA)
Conan (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conflict: Denied Ops = 1280x720 (no AA) or 960x1080
Dark Sector = 1152x640 (no AA)
Def Jam Icon (screenshot) = 1152x648 (no AA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA, temporal)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1280x720 (no AA)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Full Auto 2 (demo) = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (no AA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1152x640 (no AA)
GT5 Prologue (demo) = 1280x1080 (2x AA) - garage/pit/showroom is 1920x1080 with no AA or 1280x720 with 4xAA
Guitar Hero 3 = 1040x585 (no AA)
Haze (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Heavenly Sword = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Jericho (demo) = 996x560 (2x AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (QAA)
Lair = 800x1080 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to produce 1600x1080 for further scaling
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (temporal 2xAA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Metal Gear Online (beta) = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriot = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
MLB08: The Show = 1280x720 (2xAA, The rendering window is adjustable down to 576p without upscaling to 720p i.e. the frame has black borders)
Motorstorm = 1280x720 (2xAA)
MX vs ATV (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
NBA07 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA08 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (no AA, poor framerate)
Ninja Gaiden: Sigma = 1280x720 (has weird scaling to support 1080p)
Overlord = 1280x720 (no AA)
Pirates des Caraibes (screenshot) = 768x1080 (no AA)
960x720 en mode 720p
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (no AA)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction = 1280x704 (2xAA, centered on 720p output)
Resistance: Fall of Man = 1280x720 (QAA)
Ridge Racer 7 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (QAA, 30fps)
Skate = 1280x720 (no AA)
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (no AA)
The Darkness (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
The Bourne Conspiracy (demo) = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tony Hawk's Project 8 = 1280x720
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Transformers (screenshot) = 960x1080 (no AA)
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty = 1280x720 (no AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
Viking: Battle for Asgard = 960x720 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to a 1920x720 framebuffer, which is then downscaled to 1280x720
Virtua Fighter 5 (screenshot) = 1024x1024 (no AA)
1024x768 en mode 1080p
Virtua Tennis 3 (demo) = 1920x1080 (2x AA)
WWE 08 (screenshot) = ? 640x720 ? (2x AA)
les edges ont l'aparence du 1280x720 mais d'apres certain artefact il semble que ce soit le resultat de la fusion de 2 buffers MSAA 640x720
translation : "The edges give the impression of being 1280x720p, but because of a certain artefact it seems as if it's the result of the fusion of 2 MSAA buffers of resolution 640x720"
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Unreal Tournament III = 1280x720 (no AA)
World Series Of Poker 2008 = 1920x1080 (2xAA)


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So now lemmings are going to hug Carmack to prove nothing? He just said that the PS3 is very challenging to program.

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#36 Haku_Ryushi
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[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="patriots7672"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="garland51"][QUOTE="bungie93"] [QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.bungie93

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

That's because the developers are much lazier at designing them & making the games multiplatform.

have you ever noticed that whenever the term "lazy devs" appear the PS3 is always involved?
In my unbiased point of view you should get a PS3 it has a much brighter future of great games and free online gaming. PS_Family
oh yeah this was really unbias :roll:

It's lazy devs when you look at Uncharted, MGS 4, and Ratchet that were designed for PS3 and look stunning compared to crappy multiplats.

Says who? The Cows on System Wars? The PS3 will never be able to have graphics as good as Gears of War 2, and don't even mention Flopzone 2, the textures and lighting in that game are terrible.

And the fact that Killzone 2 is STILL in alpha production and the way it looks right now, I think it can definitely surpass Gears of War 2 graphics which already has been with Metal Gear Solid 4 for your information. I suggest you go do your research before arguing against something that you have no knowledge about.

When JOHN CARMACK and TIM SWEENEY say that the PS3 is weaker then the Xbox 360, your opinion means absolutely nothing.

LOL wow. You serious? John Carmack said it was a challenging system no weaker and its Tim Sweeney against all the other devs that say the PS3 is superior. Which is why the devs working on Star Wars the force unleashed is priortizing the PS3 over 360 and with 2K with the port of Bioshock saying it opens the door to NEW possibilities which cant be done on the 360. So with that said your opinion means NOTHING. What i really want is for you to go prove how the 360 is better than PS3 in terms of spec. You have absolutely nothing what so ever to back up your point.

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[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.angelkimne

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

If you werent so ignorant you would know that 360 could never really achieve 1080p even through an hdmi cable. Its upscaled. The fact that it plays DVD-9s is the proof that it cant technically produce REAL 1080p. Only through Blu-ray disc. You can't argue against the inevitable.

And how many Ps3 games this gen actually run in 1080p ???

Sorry but this gen's hardware just can't handle running games smoothly in native 1080p. Only 26 games on Ps3 run in 1080p. And lot's of them are PSN titles or low rated games.

EDIT : Now gotz list of Ps3 games in 1080p, here.

See most are mediocre/OK licenses or PSN titles that don't especially look good anyway.

Oh really? Can you explain Metal Gear Solid 4 then? I didnt think so.

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LOL wow. You serious? its them against all the other devs that say the PS3 is superior. Which is why the devs working on Star Wars the force unleashed is priortizing the PS3 over 360 and with 2K with the port of Bioshock saying it opens the door to NEW possibilities which cant be done on the 360. So with that said your opinion means NOTHING. What i really want is for you to go prove how the 360 is better than PS3 in terms of spec. You have absolutely nothing what so ever to back up your point.

Haku_Ryushi

neither of you have anything to back up your points

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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.Haku_Ryushi

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

If you werent so ignorant you would know that 360 could never really achieve 1080p even through an hdmi cable. Its upscaled. The fact that it plays DVD-9s is the proof that it cant technically produce REAL 1080p. Only through Blu-ray disc. You can't argue against the inevitable.

And how many Ps3 games this gen actually run in 1080p ???

Sorry but this gen's hardware just can't handle running games smoothly in native 1080p. Only 26 games on Ps3 run in 1080p. And lot's of them are PSN titles or low rated games.

EDIT : Now gotz list of Ps3 games in 1080p, here.

See most are mediocre/OK licenses or PSN titles that don't especially look good anyway.

Oh really? Can you explain Metal Gear Solid 4 then? I didnt think so.

metal gear is not 1080p if im not mistaken
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#40 Haku_Ryushi
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[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

LOL wow. You serious? its them against all the other devs that say the PS3 is superior. Which is why the devs working on Star Wars the force unleashed is priortizing the PS3 over 360 and with 2K with the port of Bioshock saying it opens the door to NEW possibilities which cant be done on the 360. So with that said your opinion means NOTHING. What i really want is for you to go prove how the 360 is better than PS3 in terms of spec. You have absolutely nothing what so ever to back up your point.

st1ka

neither of you have anything to back up your points

read my edit

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[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.st1ka

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

If you werent so ignorant you would know that 360 could never really achieve 1080p even through an hdmi cable. Its upscaled. The fact that it plays DVD-9s is the proof that it cant technically produce REAL 1080p. Only through Blu-ray disc. You can't argue against the inevitable.

And how many Ps3 games this gen actually run in 1080p ???

Sorry but this gen's hardware just can't handle running games smoothly in native 1080p. Only 26 games on Ps3 run in 1080p. And lot's of them are PSN titles or low rated games.

EDIT : Now gotz list of Ps3 games in 1080p, here.

See most are mediocre/OK licenses or PSN titles that don't especially look good anyway.

Oh really? Can you explain Metal Gear Solid 4 then? I didnt think so.

metal gear is not 1080p if im not mistaken

WOW, Go to google or somthing and look up the back cover of MGS4 (i have the game by the way and PLAYED IT in 1080p.)

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Also Boogie Bunnies, Street Home Court and Virtua
Tennis 3 are all available for Native 1080p on 360 :)
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[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.Haku_Ryushi

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

If you werent so ignorant you would know that 360 could never really achieve 1080p even through an hdmi cable. Its upscaled. The fact that it plays DVD-9s is the proof that it cant technically produce REAL 1080p. Only through Blu-ray disc. You can't argue against the inevitable.

And how many Ps3 games this gen actually run in 1080p ???

Sorry but this gen's hardware just can't handle running games smoothly in native 1080p. Only 26 games on Ps3 run in 1080p. And lot's of them are PSN titles or low rated games.

EDIT : Now gotz list of Ps3 games in 1080p, here.

See most are mediocre/OK licenses or PSN titles that don't especially look good anyway.

Oh really? Can you explain Metal Gear Solid 4 then? I didnt think so.

metal gear is not 1080p if im not mistaken

WOW, Go to google or somthing and look up the back cover of MGS4 (i have the game by the way and PLAYED IT in 1080p.)

You have just proven that you have no clue what you are talking about.

MGS4's native resolution is 720, but your PS3 upscaled it to 1080p. The Xbox 360 does the exact same thing.

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metal gear is not 1080p if im not mistaken

WOW, Go to google or somthing and look up the back cover of MGS4 (i have the game by the way and PLAYED IT in 1080p.)

Google upscaling man! lol
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[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.bungie93

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

If you werent so ignorant you would know that 360 could never really achieve 1080p even through an hdmi cable. Its upscaled. The fact that it plays DVD-9s is the proof that it cant technically produce REAL 1080p. Only through Blu-ray disc. You can't argue against the inevitable.

And how many Ps3 games this gen actually run in 1080p ???

Sorry but this gen's hardware just can't handle running games smoothly in native 1080p. Only 26 games on Ps3 run in 1080p. And lot's of them are PSN titles or low rated games.

EDIT : Now gotz list of Ps3 games in 1080p, here.

See most are mediocre/OK licenses or PSN titles that don't especially look good anyway.

Oh really? Can you explain Metal Gear Solid 4 then? I didnt think so.

metal gear is not 1080p if im not mistaken

WOW, Go to google or somthing and look up the back cover of MGS4 (i have the game by the way and PLAYED IT in 1080p.)

You have just proven that you have no clue what you are talking about.

MGS4's native resolution is 720, but your PS3 upscaled it to 1080p. The Xbox 360 does the exact same thing.

You still have no proof to back up your point. Also the fact that its on a Blu-ray disc which is only possible to produce real 1080p.

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[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.bungie93

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

If you werent so ignorant you would know that 360 could never really achieve 1080p even through an hdmi cable. Its upscaled. The fact that it plays DVD-9s is the proof that it cant technically produce REAL 1080p. Only through Blu-ray disc. You can't argue against the inevitable.

And how many Ps3 games this gen actually run in 1080p ???

Sorry but this gen's hardware just can't handle running games smoothly in native 1080p. Only 26 games on Ps3 run in 1080p. And lot's of them are PSN titles or low rated games.

EDIT : Now gotz list of Ps3 games in 1080p, here.

See most are mediocre/OK licenses or PSN titles that don't especially look good anyway.

Oh really? Can you explain Metal Gear Solid 4 then? I didnt think so.

metal gear is not 1080p if im not mistaken

WOW, Go to google or somthing and look up the back cover of MGS4 (i have the game by the way and PLAYED IT in 1080p.)

You have just proven that you have no clue what you are talking about.

MGS4's native resolution is 720, but your PS3 upscaled it to 1080p. The Xbox 360 does the exact same thing.

I agree. My 360 format was always on 1080p on my old hd-tv. Every game I had upscaled to 1080p.

Now I have a new plasma with 1080i, I formatted my 360 to 1080i, and my games go to 1080i.

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[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

metal gear is not 1080p if im not mistakenbungie93

WOW, Go to google or somthing and look up the back cover of MGS4 (i have the game by the way and PLAYED IT in 1080p.)

You have just proven that you have no clue what you are talking about.

MGS4's native resolution is 720, but your PS3 upscaled it to 1080p. The Xbox 360 does the exact same thing.

No, lots of game cases say 1080p on the back, but all that means is upscaled :(
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WOW just WOW:roll: at haku
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Well, isn't there one thing that the 360 can't do over the PS3?
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[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.Haku_Ryushi

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

If you werent so ignorant you would know that 360 could never really achieve 1080p even through an hdmi cable. Its upscaled. The fact that it plays DVD-9s is the proof that it cant technically produce REAL 1080p. Only through Blu-ray disc. You can't argue against the inevitable.

And how many Ps3 games this gen actually run in 1080p ???

Sorry but this gen's hardware just can't handle running games smoothly in native 1080p. Only 26 games on Ps3 run in 1080p. And lot's of them are PSN titles or low rated games.

EDIT : Now gotz list of Ps3 games in 1080p, here.

See most are mediocre/OK licenses or PSN titles that don't especially look good anyway.

Oh really? Can you explain Metal Gear Solid 4 then? I didnt think so.

metal gear is not 1080p if im not mistaken

WOW, Go to google or somthing and look up the back cover of MGS4 (i have the game by the way and PLAYED IT in 1080p.)

You have just proven that you have no clue what you are talking about.

MGS4's native resolution is 720, but your PS3 upscaled it to 1080p. The Xbox 360 does the exact same thing.

You still have no proof to back up your point. Also the fact that its on a Blu-ray disc which is only possible to produce real 1080p.