360 vs. PS3

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"] LOL wow. You serious? its them against all the other devs that say the PS3 is superior. Which is why the devs working on Star Wars the force unleashed is priortizing the PS3 over 360 and with 2K with the port of Bioshock saying it opens the door to NEW possibilities which cant be done on the 360. So with that said your opinion means NOTHING. What i really want is for you to go prove how the 360 is better than PS3 in terms of spec. You have absolutely nothing what so ever to back up your point. Haku_Ryushi

WOW just WOW:roll: at hakuvaderhater

That is why doing a poll to determine the "graphics king" is completely retarded.

Well, isn't there one thing that the 360 can't do over the PS3?garland51

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]WOW just WOW:roll: at hakubungie93

That is why doing a poll to determine the "graphics king" is completely retarded.

WOW just WOW:roll: at hakuvaderhater

You still have no proof to back up your point. Also the fact that its on a Blu-ray disc which is only possible to produce real 1080p.

Haku_Ryushi

1. Virtua Tennis 3 on 360 is in native 1080p on DVD-9

2. MGS 4 is not native 1080p

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.IgorVitaly

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

If you werent so ignorant you would know that 360 could never really achieve 1080p even through an hdmi cable. Its upscaled. The fact that it plays DVD-9s is the proof that it cant technically produce REAL 1080p. Only through Blu-ray disc. You can't argue against the inevitable.

Im sorry but you got owned bigtime, xbox360 CAN do games NATIVELY at 1080p. Reason why so many games are not for both xbox360 and PS3 is becouse the yare to weak by far to do it natively.

Xbox 360

Army of Two = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
Beijing 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Bioshock = 1280x720 (no AA)
Burnout: Paradise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) = 1040x624 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 4 (screenshot) = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Conan (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Conflict: Denied Ops (demo) = 1280x720p (2xAA)
Crash Time = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dark Sector = 1280x720 (no AA)
Dead or Alive 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dead Rising = 1280x720 ( up to 4xAA depending on frame rate)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Don King Prizefighter = 1024x630 (2xAA)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1024x600 (2xAA) - Same for GOTY Edition!
F.E.A.R. = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Fifa 2006 (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Fifa 2007 (demo) = 1200x675 (no AA)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
Forza 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA in-game, 4xAA replay & vehicle select)
Gears of War = 1280x720 (HD), 960x720 (SD) (2xAA on static objects?)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Guitar Hero 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Halo 3 = 1152x640 (no AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (2xAA)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (up to 4x MSAA dependent on framerate)
Mass Effect = 1280x720 (2xAA sometimes)
MotoGP 2006(screenshot) = 1280x1024 (framebuffer grab from AVS Forum member)
MX vs ATV = 1280x720 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (demo) = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
NCAA Football 08 (demo) = 1024x600 (2xAA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (4xAA, 60fps)
Ninja Gaiden 2 = 1120x585 (2xAA)
Overlord = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Perfect Dark Zero (demo) = 1152x640 (no AA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 6 (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Project Gotham Racing 3 (demo) = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Project Gotham Racing 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Quake 4 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (2xAA + blur)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ridge Racer 6 (demo) = 1440x810 (no AA)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (2xAA, 30fps)
Skate = 1280x720 (2xAA ? )
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (4xAA sometimes)
Splinter Cell Double Agent = 1280x720 (4xAA) (developer)
The Club = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Tomb Raider Legend = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Tony Hawk's Project 8 (screenshot) = 1040x585 (2xAA)
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground = 1280x720
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty = 1280x720 (no AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Unreal Tournament III = 1280x720 (no AA)
Virtua Fighter 5 (demo) = 1024x1024 (4xAA)
Virtua Tennis 3 (demo) = 1920x1080 (2xAA)

Playstation 3

Army of Two = 1280x720 (no AA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (QAA)
Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
Beijing 2008 = 960x720 or 768x1080 (no AA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (no AA)
Burnout: Paradise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) ~1088x624 (2x AA)
Call of Duty 4 = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (QAA), 1920x1080 (QAA)
Conan (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conflict: Denied Ops = 1280x720 (no AA) or 960x1080
Dark Sector = 1152x640 (no AA)
Def Jam Icon (screenshot) = 1152x648 (no AA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA, temporal)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1280x720 (no AA)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Full Auto 2 (demo) = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (no AA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1152x640 (no AA)
GT5 Prologue (demo) = 1280x1080 (2x AA) - garage/pit/showroom is 1920x1080 with no AA or 1280x720 with 4xAA
Guitar Hero 3 = 1040x585 (no AA)
Haze (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Heavenly Sword = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Jericho (demo) = 996x560 (2x AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (QAA)
Lair = 800x1080 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to produce 1600x1080 for further scaling
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (temporal 2xAA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Metal Gear Online (beta) = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriot = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
MLB08: The Show = 1280x720 (2xAA, The rendering window is adjustable down to 576p without upscaling to 720p i.e. the frame has black borders)
Motorstorm = 1280x720 (2xAA)
MX vs ATV (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
NBA07 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA08 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (no AA, poor framerate)
Ninja Gaiden: Sigma = 1280x720 (has weird scaling to support 1080p)
Overlord = 1280x720 (no AA)
Pirates des Caraibes (screenshot) = 768x1080 (no AA)
960x720 en mode 720p
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (no AA)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction = 1280x704 (2xAA, centered on 720p output)
Resistance: Fall of Man = 1280x720 (QAA)
Ridge Racer 7 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (QAA, 30fps)
Skate = 1280x720 (no AA)
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (no AA)
The Darkness (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
The Bourne Conspiracy (demo) = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tony Hawk's Project 8 = 1280x720
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Transformers (screenshot) = 960x1080 (no AA)
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty = 1280x720 (no AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
Viking: Battle for Asgard = 960x720 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to a 1920x720 framebuffer, which is then downscaled to 1280x720
Virtua Fighter 5 (screenshot) = 1024x1024 (no AA)
1024x768 en mode 1080p
Virtua Tennis 3 (demo) = 1920x1080 (2x AA)
WWE 08 (screenshot) = ? 640x720 ? (2x AA)
les edges ont l'aparence du 1280x720 mais d'apres certain artefact il semble que ce soit le resultat de la fusion de 2 buffers MSAA 640x720
translation : "The edges give the impression of being 1280x720p, but because of a certain artefact it seems as if it's the result of the fusion of 2 MSAA buffers of resolution 640x720"
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Unreal Tournament III = 1280x720 (no AA)
World Series Of Poker 2008 = 1920x1080 (2xAA)

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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"] You still have no proof to back up your point. Also the fact that its on a Blu-ray disc which is only possible to produce real 1080p. st1ka

Haku_ryushi you should be honored to know that I have used one of your quotes as my signature.bungie93

Thank you. But do you really think you have all the reason to win this debate?

I say PS3, unless you REALLY wanna play FableII, Gears2, etc. The PS3 is built on more reliable hardware so it will last longer, potentially indefinately assuming you take good care of it, which u cant say about the 360.

But it comes down to games and online. The PS3's online is getting off the launch pad at the moment. It's a bit rocky but it'l be there soon. As for games, it's up to you.

Balance several different factors.

[QUOTE="bungie93"]Haku_ryushi you should be honored to know that I have used one of your quotes as my signature.Haku_Ryushi

Thank you. But do you really think you have all the reason to win this debate?

Maybe it will seem a bit more credible if you read the whole thread instead of just one post.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"] You still have no proof to back up your point. Also the fact that its on a Blu-ray disc which is only possible to produce real 1080p. angelkimne

Its becouse B3D is the source and the pixel counters post there. I qouted the whole list for xbox360 and PS3 above, should be enough bread material.

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

[QUOTE="bungie93"]Haku_ryushi you should be honored to know that I have used one of your quotes as my signature.vaderhater

Thank you. But do you really think you have all the reason to win this debate?

lol cute. Prove it.

[QUOTE="vaderhater"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

[QUOTE="bungie93"]Haku_ryushi you should be honored to know that I have used one of your quotes as my signature.Haku_Ryushi

Thank you. But do you really think you have all the reason to win this debate?

lol cute. Prove it.

[QUOTE="vaderhater"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

[QUOTE="bungie93"]Haku_ryushi you should be honored to know that I have used one of your quotes as my signature.Haku_Ryushi

Thank you. But do you really think you have all the reason to win this debate?

lol cute. Prove it.

[QUOTE="vaderhater"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

[QUOTE="bungie93"]Haku_ryushi you should be honored to know that I have used one of your quotes as my signature.Haku_Ryushi

Thank you. But do you really think you have all the reason to win this debate?

lol cute. Prove it.

You thought MGS4 was in 1080p because it says it on the box. That statement right there proves that you have no clue what you are talking about.

Also see my signiture for one of Haku's earlier quotes.

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="vaderhater"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

[QUOTE="bungie93"]Haku_ryushi you should be honored to know that I have used one of your quotes as my signature.angelkimne

Thank you. But do you really think you have all the reason to win this debate?

lol cute. Prove it.

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="vaderhater"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

[QUOTE="bungie93"]Haku_ryushi you should be honored to know that I have used one of your quotes as my signature.vaderhater

Thank you. But do you really think you have all the reason to win this debate?

lol cute. Prove it.

ok.....I have to admit that was the ONLY thing i lost on the 1080p argument. But not on the graphics part. He made a very ignorant comment stating that the PS3 could never produce graphics like Gears of War 2 plus the bashing on Killzone 2's graphics which where same but a little better than gears of war 2 and also the fact that killzone 2 is still in alpha stage.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="vaderhater"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

[QUOTE="bungie93"]Haku_ryushi you should be honored to know that I have used one of your quotes as my signature.Haku_Ryushi

Thank you. But do you really think you have all the reason to win this debate?

lol cute. Prove it.

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="vaderhater"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

[QUOTE="bungie93"]Haku_ryushi you should be honored to know that I have used one of your quotes as my signature.vaderhater

Thank you. But do you really think you have all the reason to win this debate?

lol cute. Prove it.

ok.....I have to admit that was the ONLY thing i lost on the 1080p argument. But not on the graphics part. He made a very ignorant comment stating that the PS3 could never produce graphics like Gears of War 2 plus the bashing on Killzone 2's graphics which where same but a little better than gears of war 2 and also the fact that killzone 2 is still in alpha stage.

Whatever floats your boat.

bungie93

PS3.

and yes, MGS4 really IS that great.

Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.garland51

You MUST work for Sony with this repeated spewing of "Real HD"...

Lolol Im sorry but OMFG!

[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.TBoogy

You MUST work for Sony with this repeated spewing of "Real HD"...

Did you know their belowed MGS4 is not true HD? It is 1024x768 and anamorphically 16:9 its 665p aka NOT HD resoluton.

In my unbiased point of view you should get a PS3. It has a much brighter future of great games and free online gaming.

PS_Family

LOL,

UNBIASED point of view?

Lolol Im sorry but OMFG!

IgorVitaly

That wasn't fair in the first few pictures when you used KILLZONE 1. You do know they are pretty much almost done with Gears 2 right? And its also way past alpha. We'll see at the end of the year how good and how much better Killzone 2 will be when the graphics are finished in Beta and when they add the finishing touches after. In other words lets compare both games in picture form once they come out.

make a list of all the PS3 and 360 games you want, choose the console with the bigger list

go here and here

st1ka

I agree. and also check on the upcoming games for both platforms.

No one here knows what you like and which m-rated titles you will be able to play.

Fair enough...

Now it was funny creating gifs, Gears 2 on the table what other game?

[QUOTE="eklineage"]i prefer gameson the ps3 more...the console is more reliable toopatriots7672

What he said unless you're a huge halo or gears fan and have no life at all so you need to pay $50/yr so you can have a life through xlive and wont mind sending your 360 in for a new one when it fails like mine did twice(failed hdd, then RRoD). Now I just own 2 PS3s.

Wow! The hate is strong here. No life? How about I'm grown and my friends don't come over after school to play games anymore. In fact, my 4 biggest gamer friends are in four different cities now. XBL is a blessing.

[QUOTE="eklineage"]i prefer gameson the ps3 more...the console is more reliable toopatriots7672

What he said unless you're a huge halo or gears fan and have no life at all so you need to pay $50/yr so you can have a life through xlive and wont mind sending your 360 in for a new one when it fails like mine did twice(failed hdd, then RRoD). Now I just own 2 PS3s.

actually the 360 is king of the rpg's now as well... I still don't think the ps3 has a true exclusive rpg.. only shooters..

Oh, and since you're a minor there are some big titles for everyone coming like Ratchet and Clank, Little Big Planet, Fat Princess, etc.

PS_Family

have you seen the trailer for fat princess? has M written all over it.

free online that will surpass live with home

blu-ray

wiresless already installed instead of buying a 100 dollar wiresless attachment for 360

wider array of exclusives with ps3 as opposed to shooters shooters shooters

choice is clear go ps3

slystallion26

actually all ps3 has right now are shooters...

you have to buy hd cables for your tv if you want to take advantage of the blu-ray.

Killzone 2 murdered Gears in prealpha. I can't believe people still doubt PS3's graphical capabilities.PS_Family

If you still believe kz2 is still in alpha then wow.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="bungie93"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]Get a PS3. The console's more reliable than the 360, plus the 360 can't ever have real HD graphics.Haku_Ryushi

Are you joking? The PS3 has more sub-HD games than the Xbox 360.

If you werent so ignorant you would know that 360 could never really achieve 1080p even through an hdmi cable. Its upscaled. The fact that it plays DVD-9s is the proof that it cant technically produce REAL 1080p. Only through Blu-ray disc. You can't argue against the inevitable.

Sorry but this gen's hardware just can't handle running games smoothly in native 1080p. Only 26 games on Ps3 run in 1080p. And lot's of them are PSN titles or low rated games.

EDIT : Now gotz list of Ps3 games in 1080p, here.

See most are mediocre/OK licenses or PSN titles that don't especially look good anyway.

Oh really? Can you explain Metal Gear Solid 4 then? I didnt think so.

WOW, Go to google or somthing and look up the back cover of MGS4 (i have the game by the way and PLAYED IT in 1080p.)

well i played halo 3 and gears of war on my 360 in 1080p... doesn't mean it's native.