360:Many Problems PS3: None that I can think of.

[QUOTE="ermacness"]but wasn't we promised that the ELITES and the Halo edition 360 would be the remedy to the RROD?
shoeman12

no. microsoft never said those models would fix the rrod. some fanboys assumed but microsoft never said they would.

[QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="jerann10"]

360 has many problems

1.Of course RROD

rrod is pretty much fixed now with 65 nm falcon models. plus, you have the 3 year warranty.

2.That darn buzzing noise

what buzzing noise? i don't hear any noise over my games

3.Uncomfortable Controller

you've got to be joking, unless you're talking about the original xbox controller. the 360 controller is by far the most confortable.

4.Too many First-Person shooters

actually having games is bad?

5.Cant forget those $50 Live Fees

$1 a week for superior online is fine by me

I cant think of any reasonable problems with the PS3.Prove Me Wrong.

jerann10

ps3 problems: bad online, slow blu ray read speeds, more expensive because of blu ray which is useless for games, few good games, you'll have to upgrade your hdd because of the 5 gig installations. thats just a few.

you dont seem to know anything the slw read speeds isnt about connection issues but the speed of the disc being rea. this affects the loading times hence why some games require install time

[QUOTE="ermacness"]but wasn't we promised that the ELITES and the Halo edition 360 would be the remedy to the RROD?
shoeman12

no. microsoft never said those models would fix the rrod. some fanboys assumed but microsoft never said they would.

[QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="jerann10"]

360 has many problems

1.Of course RROD

rrod is pretty much fixed now with 65 nm falcon models. plus, you have the 3 year warranty.

2.That darn buzzing noise

what buzzing noise? i don't hear any noise over my games

3.Uncomfortable Controller

you've got to be joking, unless you're talking about the original xbox controller. the 360 controller is by far the most confortable.

4.Too many First-Person shooters

actually having games is bad?

5.Cant forget those $50 Live Fees

$1 a week for superior online is fine by me

I cant think of any reasonable problems with the PS3.Prove Me Wrong.

jerann10

ps3 problems: bad online, slow blu ray read speeds, more expensive because of blu ray which is useless for games, few good games, you'll have to upgrade your hdd because of the 5 gig installations. thats just a few.

how do i have a bad connection when live works lag free for me? and i'm not just talking about lag, i'm talking about all the extra things. how can you deny that blu ray has slow read speeds when it is FACT that the blu ray drive is 2X? without installations which make you have to buy a new hdd games have terribly slow loading times. and how many AAAE does the ps3 have on gamespot or gamerankings?

[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="Insane00"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"][QUOTE="Insane00"]

[QUOTE="darkslider99"]Forced install times :|
ermacness

I still don't understand why this is such a big deal. Every PC game I have ever played makes you install it.

Consoles are used for a quick and easy gaming experience without having to install any games. The PS3 is becoming a PC clone with few good games and not as much hard drive space.

So add a bigger hard drive if it's that big a deal.

Either way, if you shell out for a ps3 and then frek out about wiating to download a game, well, I can just say patience is a virtue. I have no complaints.

cows always complain about the price of live but when it comes to buying $100 plus harddrives they say just buy it theirs no problem

120 gig harddrives arent needed for the 360 unlike the ps3's 20gb and 40gb users

[QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="jerann10"]

360 has many problems

1.Of course RROD

rrod is pretty much fixed now with 65 nm falcon models. plus, you have the 3 year warranty.

2.That darn buzzing noise

what buzzing noise? i don't hear any noise over my games

3.Uncomfortable Controller

you've got to be joking, unless you're talking about the original xbox controller. the 360 controller is by far the most confortable.

4.Too many First-Person shooters

actually having games is bad?

5.Cant forget those $50 Live Fees

$1 a week for superior online is fine by me

I cant think of any reasonable problems with the PS3.Prove Me Wrong.

jerann10

ps3 problems: bad online, slow blu ray read speeds, more expensive because of blu ray which is useless for games, few good games, you'll have to upgrade your hdd because of the 5 gig installations. thats just a few.

Why don't people look up information before they post? Anyways, when he stated the BD has a slow read speed, he means that the ps3 drive reads data slower than a dvd drive. This is one reason that developers sometimes have to use redundant data of ps3 games.

[QUOTE="darkslider99"]Forced install times :|
Insane00

I still don't understand why this is such a big deal. Every PC game I have ever played makes you install it.

But the PS3 is not a PC, it's a console.

Consoles are designed for their plug and play simplicity and pretty much instant access to gaming. That simplicity is diminished significantly by being forced to wait 10 - 20 minutes for a game to install. Imagine you take the game over a friend's house and he doesn't have the game? It's easy to say you'll just wait it out, but we both know you'd rather be playing the game in that time instead of waiting for it to install.

my biggest gripe about the ps3 is the lack of support for vga. now i hear all the time how hdmi is superior and yet the 360 through vga has smoother lines, just a little less color. however the games kill graphically through vga and i wish sony would of supported the connection.

[QUOTE="jerann10"]

360 has many problems

1.Of course RROD

rrod is pretty much fixed now with 65 nm falcon models. plus, you have the 3 year warranty.

2.That darn buzzing noise

what buzzing noise? i don't hear any noise over my games

3.Uncomfortable Controller

you've got to be joking, unless you're talking about the original xbox controller. the 360 controller is by far the most confortable.

4.Too many First-Person shooters

actually having games is bad?

5.Cant forget those $50 Live Fees

$1 a week for superior online is fine by me

I cant think of any reasonable problems with the PS3.Prove Me Wrong.

shoeman12

ps3 problems: bad online, slow blu ray read speeds, more expensive because of blu ray which is useless for games, few good games, you'll have to upgrade your hdd because of the 5 gig installations. thats just a few.

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]but wasn't we promised that the ELITES and the Halo edition 360 would be the remedy to the RROD?
ermacness

no. microsoft never said those models would fix the rrod. some fanboys assumed but microsoft never said they would.

no. the falcon chipset models are the NEW ones with the 65 nm cpu's, the only difference with the elite was it had hdmi. SOME of the halo models have falcon chipsets but not all do so some are susceptible to rrod. give me a link where microsoft said the elites would fix the rrod.

[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="Insane00"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"][QUOTE="Insane00"]

[QUOTE="darkslider99"]Forced install times :|
ermacness

I still don't understand why this is such a big deal. Every PC game I have ever played makes you install it.

Consoles are used for a quick and easy gaming experience without having to install any games. The PS3 is becoming a PC clone with few good games and not as much hard drive space.

So add a bigger hard drive if it's that big a deal.

Either way, if you shell out for a ps3 and then frek out about wiating to download a game, well, I can just say patience is a virtue. I have no complaints.

cows always complain about the price of live but when it comes to buying $100 plus harddrives they say just buy it theirs no problem

There is a complaint about live cause you gotta shell out every year as long as you want it.

Whereas spanding 150 bucks for an HHD that is as big or bigger than anything you can get in any box (compared to the measly 40GB you get for 100 bucks from Microsoft) is a one time purchase you always get to keep.

[QUOTE="Insane00"]

[QUOTE="darkslider99"]Forced install times :|
The_Game21x

I still don't understand why this is such a big deal. Every PC game I have ever played makes you install it.

But the PS3 is not a PC, it's a console.

Consoles are designed for their plug and play simplicity and pretty much instant access to gaming. That simplicity is diminished significantly by being forced to wait 10 - 20 minutes for a game to install. Imagine you take the game over a friend's house and he doesn't have the game? It's easy to say you'll just wait it out, but we both know you'd rather be playing the game in that time instead of waiting for it to install.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="Insane00"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"][QUOTE="Insane00"]

[QUOTE="darkslider99"]Forced install times :|
Insane00

I still don't understand why this is such a big deal. Every PC game I have ever played makes you install it.

Consoles are used for a quick and easy gaming experience without having to install any games. The PS3 is becoming a PC clone with few good games and not as much hard drive space.

So add a bigger hard drive if it's that big a deal.

Either way, if you shell out for a ps3 and then frek out about wiating to download a game, well, I can just say patience is a virtue. I have no complaints.

cows always complain about the price of live but when it comes to buying $100 plus harddrives they say just buy it theirs no problem

There is a complaint about live cause you gotta shell out every year as long as you want it.

Whereas spanding 150 bucks for an HHD that is as big or bigger than anything you can get in any box (compared to the measly 40GB you get for 100 bucks from Microsoft) is a one time purchase you always get to keep.

[QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="jerann10"]

360 has many problems

1.Of course RROD

rrod is pretty much fixed now with 65 nm falcon models. plus, you have the 3 year warranty.

2.That darn buzzing noise

what buzzing noise? i don't hear any noise over my games

3.Uncomfortable Controller

you've got to be joking, unless you're talking about the original xbox controller. the 360 controller is by far the most confortable.

4.Too many First-Person shooters

actually having games is bad?

5.Cant forget those $50 Live Fees

$1 a week for superior online is fine by me

I cant think of any reasonable problems with the PS3.Prove Me Wrong.

ermacness

ps3 problems: bad online, slow blu ray read speeds, more expensive because of blu ray which is useless for games, few good games, you'll have to upgrade your hdd because of the 5 gig installations. thats just a few.

you didn't have to upgrade it yet, but more and more games are requiring installations. within the year you'll have to upgrade. and i've gotten all my themes for free so far.

problem with the MY(launch) 360 is that it's friggin' sound like a jet engine. Problem with MY ps3 (worse) is that both of my controller would randomly lost connection for a sec or two mid-game and keeps doing it. Is there a way to fix that?

problem with the MY(launch) 360 is that it's friggin' sound like a jet engine. Problem with MY ps3 (worse) is that both of my controller would randomly lost connection for a sec or two mid-game and keeps doing it. Is there a way to fix that?

tonyleo01

360 has many problems

1.Of course RROD

2.That darn buzzing noise

3.Uncomfortable Controller

4.Too many First-Person shooters

5.Cant forget those $50 Live Fees

I cant think of any reasonable problems with the PS3.Prove Me Wrong.

jerann10

1. hasn't happened to me yet

2. my tv is louder than the buzzing noise so unless u play on mute who cares

3. i don't like the controller that much but i do like it better than the playstation controller

4. how can too many games be a bad thing

5. much more reliable than sony's online

problems with the ps3:

1. (note: this is personal) doesn't come in white yet in north america so it matches my 360 and wii

2. not that many good games

3. hate the sixaxis (ripoff of wii-mote)

3. not so reliable online

4. lack of backwards compatibility in newer models

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Insane00"]

[QUOTE="darkslider99"]Forced install times :|
ermacness

I still don't understand why this is such a big deal. Every PC game I have ever played makes you install it.

But the PS3 is not a PC, it's a console.

Consoles are designed for their plug and play simplicity and pretty much instant access to gaming. That simplicity is diminished significantly by being forced to wait 10 - 20 minutes for a game to install. Imagine you take the game over a friend's house and he doesn't have the game? It's easy to say you'll just wait it out, but we both know you'd rather be playing the game in that time instead of waiting for it to install.

And in what game is the difference "significant"? Don't say Devil May Cry 4 because the difference between the two is only a few seconds at best.

but if it can SIGNIFICANTLY cut down the load times vs it's 360 counterpart, then i'll happily take a 5 gig 30 min download anyday
ermacness

[QUOTE="jerann10"]

360 has many problems

1.Of course RROD

2.That darn buzzing noise

3.Uncomfortable Controller

4.Too many First-Person shooters

5.Cant forget those $50 Live Fees

I cant think of any reasonable problems with the PS3.Prove Me Wrong.

web_slinger_62

1. hasn't happened to me yet

2. my tv is louder than the buzzing noise so unless u play on mute who cares

3. i don't like the controller that much but i do like it better than the playstation controller

4. how can too many games be a bad thing

5. much more reliable than sony's online

problems with the ps3:

1. (note: this is personal) doesn't come in white yet in north america so it matches my 360 and wii

2. not that many good games

3. hate the sixaxis (ripoff of wii-mote)

3. not so reliable online

4. lack of backwards compatibility in newer models

PS3 still got the highest starting price for a gaming console.

PS3 still doesn't have any AAAE killer apps.

If you bought a launch PS3, it's already discontinued.

Sixaxis will be discontinued.

$55 bucks for a DS3.

PS3 doesn't come with a blue tooth headset and a hdmi cable.

A hand full of games have optional to mandatory hdd installs which takes up to 5 gigs.

You're still waiting for features like in game XMB, Home/trophies/accomplishments.

PSN still got a long way to go.

Every now and then you'll have blue tooth signal drops.

Constant firmware upgrades every month that might cause more problems that needs firmware upgrades.

Most multiplats are either delayed, downgraded, or cancelled.

You still have to use credit cards to buy dlc.

No free trials for PSN games.

Still waiting.

PS3 - no games. Thats a pretty big problem,...Demetri_OS

No games to somebody who owns a 360 maybe...

[QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="jerann10"]

360 has many problems

1.Of course RROD

rrod is pretty much fixed now with 65 nm falcon models. plus, you have the 3 year warranty.

2.That darn buzzing noise

what buzzing noise? i don't hear any noise over my games

3.Uncomfortable Controller

you've got to be joking, unless you're talking about the original xbox controller. the 360 controller is by far the most confortable.

4.Too many First-Person shooters

actually having games is bad?

5.Cant forget those $50 Live Fees

$1 a week for superior online is fine by me

I cant think of any reasonable problems with the PS3.Prove Me Wrong.

jerann10

ps3 problems: bad online, slow blu ray read speeds, more expensive because of blu ray which is useless for games, few good games, you'll have to upgrade your hdd because of the 5 gig installations. thats just a few.

good connection in the disc drive? lol

[QUOTE="web_slinger_62"][QUOTE="jerann10"]

360 has many problems

1.Of course RROD

2.That darn buzzing noise

3.Uncomfortable Controller

4.Too many First-Person shooters

5.Cant forget those $50 Live Fees

I cant think of any reasonable problems with the PS3.Prove Me Wrong.

jerann10

1. hasn't happened to me yet

2. my tv is louder than the buzzing noise so unless u play on mute who cares

3. i don't like the controller that much but i do like it better than the playstation controller

4. how can too many games be a bad thing

5. much more reliable than sony's online

problems with the ps3:

1. (note: this is personal) doesn't come in white yet in north america so it matches my 360 and wii

2. not that many good games

3. hate the sixaxis (ripoff of wii-mote)

3. not so reliable online

4. lack of backwards compatibility in newer models

which is why i said its personal cuz i want it to match my 360 and wii (this is cuz i didnt buy an elite) and i've personally never liked the dualshock, and it has a lot of good games but not as many as the 360 and u have an awesome connection (direct ethernet cable) and still get kicked off and the 80GB models are discntd (nor are they white)

I wouldn't say 360 has "best online" when both systems can play COD4 online and one can do without my having to pay for more than my internet connection.

In fact, Gamepro agrees with me (can't find link but am sure you've all seen it or someone else will post it). Also, note to fanboys: I'm not invoking Gamepro as some end-all be-all argument ender. Just saying that at least SOME professional outlet(s) agree(s) with the "free is better" mantra.

As far as in-game messaging and all that goes - that's nice, but it doesn't make me want to pay for internet. It's just a different perspective on PSN. You can think of the style as more of a bulletin board-style system. Someone leaves you a message, and you check it when you get a chance. Perhaps you prefer in-game messaging - that's fine, I'd like it on PS3 in order to improve ease of communication, but it's not something I would pay for. That ALSO doesn't mean I'm saying XBL is "worse." But it definitely isn't "better."

Cue "lol's" and meaningless smiley faces.

Edit: Who is saying XBL is more reliable? How do you figure/measure this? I turn on my PS3, I'm online, end of story for me. My service has never gone down for a week or anything like that, and from what I hear and have seen COD4 has lag issues on both platforms.

I wouldn't say 360 has "best online" when both systems can play COD4 online and one can do without my having to pay for more than my internet connection.

In fact, Gamepro agrees with me (can't find link but am sure you've all seen it or someone else will post it). Also, note to fanboys: I'm not invoking Gamepro as some end-all be-all argument ender. Just saying that at least SOME professional outlet(s) agree(s) with the "free is better" mantra.

As far as in-game messaging and all that goes - that's nice, but it doesn't make me want to pay for internet. It's just a different perspective on PSN. You can think of the style as more of a bulletin board-style system. Someone leaves you a message, and you check it when you get a chance. Perhaps you prefer in-game messaging - that's fine, I'd like it on PS3 in order to improve ease of communication, but it's not something I would pay for. That ALSO doesn't mean I'm saying XBL is "worse." But it definitely isn't "better."

Cue "lol's" and meaningless smiley faces.

skirlnik

Pesonal experience: I've played COD4 and Warhawk at my friend's house on his ps3 and have been kicked off online 9/10 times. Sure 60 bucks sounds like a lot just to play online, but I wouldn't mind paying $1/week just for reliable service

PS3 is just a better system. I went to www.sony.com and www.microsoft.com and found out the sales are much better than the 360sjerann10

in your opinion. :wink:

[QUOTE="darkslider99"][QUOTE="TMontana1004"]Uncomfortable controller? lol. Buzzing noise? When has the noise that a console emits ever been a problem? Too many FPSs? Who says? They are all different in their own way. Tell me whne the PS3 actually gets an AAAE FPS.ermacness

I wouldn't say 360 has "best online" when both systems can play COD4 online and one can do without my having to pay for more than my internet connection.

In fact, Gamepro agrees with me (can't find link but am sure you've all seen it or someone else will post it). Also, note to fanboys: I'm not invoking Gamepro as some end-all be-all argument ender. Just saying that at least SOME professional outlet(s) agree(s) with the "free is better" mantra.

As far as in-game messaging and all that goes - that's nice, but it doesn't make me want to pay for internet. It's just a different perspective on PSN. You can think of the style as more of a bulletin board-style system. Someone leaves you a message, and you check it when you get a chance. Perhaps you prefer in-game messaging - that's fine, I'd like it on PS3 in order to improve ease of communication, but it's not something I would pay for. That ALSO doesn't mean I'm saying XBL is "worse." But it definitely isn't "better."

Cue "lol's" and meaningless smiley faces.

Edit: Who is saying XBL is more reliable? How do you figure/measure this? I turn on my PS3, I'm online, end of story for me. My service has never gone down for a week or anything like that, and from what I hear and have seen COD4 has lag issues on both platforms.

skirlnik

The problem is, that isn't something you pay for. In fact, the only thing you pay for is online gaming. Everything else that the service entails is absoutely free to Silver users.

[QUOTE="skirlnik"]

I wouldn't say 360 has "best online" when both systems can play COD4 online and one can do without my having to pay for more than my internet connection.

In fact, Gamepro agrees with me (can't find link but am sure you've all seen it or someone else will post it). Also, note to fanboys: I'm not invoking Gamepro as some end-all be-all argument ender. Just saying that at least SOME professional outlet(s) agree(s) with the "free is better" mantra.

As far as in-game messaging and all that goes - that's nice, but it doesn't make me want to pay for internet. It's just a different perspective on PSN. You can think of the style as more of a bulletin board-style system. Someone leaves you a message, and you check it when you get a chance. Perhaps you prefer in-game messaging - that's fine, I'd like it on PS3 in order to improve ease of communication, but it's not something I would pay for. That ALSO doesn't mean I'm saying XBL is "worse." But it definitely isn't "better."

Cue "lol's" and meaningless smiley faces.

web_slinger_62

Pesonal experience: I've played COD4 and Warhawk at my friend's house on his ps3 and have been kicked off online 9/10 times. Sure 60 bucks sounds like a lot just to play online, but I wouldn't mind paying $1/week just for reliable service

I have both games and they work great. Warhawk even uses dedicated servers.

Talk about reliable... lolz, lemms problay go to sleep every night with RRoD on their mind.

Did he just say "Uncomfortable" controller. :lol: Oh lordy. Coming from a PS3 owner and a Xbox 360 owner... I'll point out sme things I do not like about the Playstation 3.

For one, I'm not a huge fan of installing demos -- after you just spent thirty minutes downloading a demo -- why should it take another ten to fifteen minutes to install the dang thing.

No backwards compatibilty. Noow that's the biggest draw back for me.

Not enough games which stand out to me, so far, only game which impresses me is Uncharted and even that game has its fair share of problems.

The motion sensing feels tacked on at the last moment, and I'm not a big fan of motion sensing technology. The controller itself feels cheap and is uncomfortable at times.

The user interface for the Dashboard or whatever its called for the PS3 isn't very user friendly for me. After I went from the Xbox 360 to the PS3, I was like, Hmm what's this... what?

The last thing which really struck my nerve was that it didn't ship with HD cables. Now, welcome to the next generation Sony, how about we give the consumer a HD cable, componite A/v or HDMI so he can watch movies in High Definition and play games in high definition. Don't tout about how your Console is the "True" next generation console and you don't frickin even ship it with HD cables. I'm so dumbfounded by this.

uncomfortable controller? :lol: now i think you're joking.TheDarkDisciple

The problem is, that isn't something you pay for. In fact, the only thing you pay for is online gaming. Everything else that the service entails is absoutely free to Silver users.

I'm not sure which side you're arguing (or perhaps representing is a better choice of words) but I agree - that's my problem with the Xbox 360. I will buy one eventually because there are games it has that I want to play. This does NOT include anything that you have to play online because for every Halo there are plenty of either PS3-exclusive or multiplatform shooters that fill that niche quite nicely.

Again: I'll buy a 360. However, since I refuse to pay for online play, it's hard to justify using the 360 because it's pretty gimped if you don't add a monthly (yearly, whatever) bill. It's not the amount Live costs, it's the principle. Support it if you want, but it's not better no matter what you say.