$399 ps3 part of microsofts plan

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#1 im_different
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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=27100

read. rumor started by xbox's director of strategy. if theirs a rumor all over the internet that if they wait a couple months longer to get a ps3 then they can save 100 dollars,then no one will buy a ps3 till it comes. what happens if it was only a rumor and the price drop doesnt come? sony loses thousands of sales in the critical times they needed to convice 3rd party publishers to make games on their system. if ps3 shows crappy sales in august and september while people wait for the price drop what will become of ps3?

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#2 johncraven
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yes, but he also basically gave an idea away to Sony, who could very well fulfill it...lol
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#3 amorbis1001
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LOL if the price goes down, that means there will never be another ps3 price drop in a few YEARS whicle the 360 and wii prices keep dropping like hot cakes (I could imagine 360 costs $150, wii is free, and ps3 is just dropping to $380 lol.
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LOL if the price goes down, that means there will never be another ps3 price drop in a few YEARS whicle the 360 and wii prices keep dropping like hot cakes (I could imagine 360 costs $150, wii is free, and ps3 is just dropping to $380 lol.amorbis1001

Dropping like... Hotcakes?!

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#5 GarchomPro
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yeh but wat happens if the price does go down..

Microsoft is gonna be kiking themselves in the butt.
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Was it also in their plan to ship only about 1 million units this entire year and lose their lead to the Wii so quickly?
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#7 Jhung207
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Yea this is a very good tactic by microsoft. If consumers expects a pricedrop or a new model then they will simply not buy the system until it comes out. Ps3 doesn't even have anything to offer in september and with the recent august npd I wouldn't be surprise if the ps3 sells less than 130,000 units in september.
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]LOL if the price goes down, that means there will never be another ps3 price drop in a few YEARS whicle the 360 and wii prices keep dropping like hot cakes (I could imagine 360 costs $150, wii is free, and ps3 is just dropping to $380 lol.Locke562

Dropping like... Hotcakes?!

Dropping and hotcakes should never be used in the same sentence. It is a perversion of nature.
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Shouldn't Microsoft at least try to make a profit on their console at this point. I mean what's the point of constantly droping the price so your in the red when your system is already outselling the direct competition, the ps3 (that is to say that the Wii caters to a different type of gaming than the 360, not that it's better, just has a different audience).
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Was it also in their plan to ship only about 1 million units this entire year and lose their lead to the Wii so quickly?Lazy_Boy88
yes
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#11 club-sandwich
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yeh but wat happens if the price does go down..

Microsoft is gonna be kiking themselves in the butt.
GarchomPro
no, sony will because they are already losing alot of money for everysold PS3.
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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]yeh but wat happens if the price does go down..

Microsoft is gonna be kiking themselves in the butt.
club-sandwich
no, sony will because they are already losing alot of money for everysold PS3.

And Microsoft ISN'T losing money?

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[QUOTE="Locke562"]

[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]LOL if the price goes down, that means there will never be another ps3 price drop in a few YEARS whicle the 360 and wii prices keep dropping like hot cakes (I could imagine 360 costs $150, wii is free, and ps3 is just dropping to $380 lol.Nike_Air

Dropping like... Hotcakes?!

Dropping and hotcakes should never be used in the same sentence. It is a perversion of nature.

LOL IDK wat you mean.

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#14 Splatterbrains
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I doubt it.

the funnt thing is though, I think he is telling the truth

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[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="GarchomPro"]yeh but wat happens if the price does go down..

Microsoft is gonna be kiking themselves in the butt.
ianuilliam

no, sony will because they are already losing alot of money for everysold PS3.

And Microsoft ISN'T losing ALOT OF money?

fixed ;)

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#16 Jhung207
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Shouldn't Microsoft at least try to make a profit on their console at this point. I mean what's the point of constantly droping the price so your in the red when your system is already outselling the direct competition, the ps3 (that is to say that the Wii caters to a different type of gaming than the 360, not that it's better, just has a different audience).Insane00

Well it is better to knock off competition. If MS manage to gain a good enough lead on ps3 this holiday season then it will be nearly impossible for the ps3 to come back. When the ps3 is out of the competition then most consumers will buy xbox 360.

Sony is very desperate and they are doing everything they can to save the ps3. 4 skus and 2 discontinue skus in less than 1 year is pretty unstable.

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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]yeh but wat happens if the price does go down..

Microsoft is gonna be kiking themselves in the butt.
club-sandwich
no, sony will because they are already losing alot of money for everysold PS3.

They wont lose much though, cuz the new one will probably not have B/C compatibility or wifi or some other random thing.
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#18 Jhung207
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="GarchomPro"]yeh but wat happens if the price does go down..

Microsoft is gonna be kiking themselves in the butt.
amorbis1001

no, sony will because they are already losing alot of money for everysold PS3.

And Microsoft ISN'T losing ALOT OF money?

fixed ;)

Sony is losing way more money on the ps3 than MS is losing on the xbox 360. At least software sales for MS is oustanding.

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#19 dark_templar_99
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="Locke562"]

[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]LOL if the price goes down, that means there will never be another ps3 price drop in a few YEARS whicle the 360 and wii prices keep dropping like hot cakes (I could imagine 360 costs $150, wii is free, and ps3 is just dropping to $380 lol.amorbis1001

Dropping like... Hotcakes?!

Dropping and hotcakes should never be used in the same sentence. It is a perversion of nature.

LOL IDK wat you mean.

he means.... "Drop it like its hoooot, drop it like its hoooot, snoooooooooooooooooop"
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If they are predicting this, plan on a holiday price war if Sony follows through with everyones predictions. MS seems like they are ready for it and have a plan (most businesses do). It will be a good holiday for the consumer.

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#21 Jhung207
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If they are predicting this, plan on a holiday price war if Sony follows through with everyones predictions. MS seems like they are ready for it and have a plan (most businesses do). It will be a good holiday for the consumer.

maabus99

If sony don't sell at least one million units from september to december then they will most likely be dead in NA. There is no way sony can come back at the rate it is selling.

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#22 dark_templar_99
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If they are predicting this, plan on a holiday price war if Sony follows through with everyones predictions. MS seems like they are ready for it and have a plan (most businesses do). It will be a good holiday for the consumer.

maabus99
I can see it now "RUMOR: Sony will release a $299.99 console on january 1st! - (rumor spred by microsoft, secretly)" Consumers: OH WOW i'm waiting till after the holidays to buy one!!!!! Microsoft: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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#23 Jhung207
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[QUOTE="maabus99"]

If they are predicting this, plan on a holiday price war if Sony follows through with everyones predictions. MS seems like they are ready for it and have a plan (most businesses do). It will be a good holiday for the consumer.

dark_templar_99

I can see it now "RUMOR: Sony will release a $299.99 console on january 1st! - (rumor spred by microsoft, secretly)" Consumers: OH WOW i'm waiting till after the holidays to buy one!!!!! Microsoft: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I am really expecting a $400 ps3 to come out soon but sony are always late. MS probably have plans to counter this move with another pricedrop of its own.

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#24 mikasa
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yeh but wat happens if the price does go down..

Microsoft is gonna be kiking themselves in the butt.
GarchomPro

No because ps3 NEEDS sales TODAY. So by delaying people from buying it they are costing sony money. I always wondered why a company would release a rumor that htey'd drop the price. it's stupid as no one will buy the product today.

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Shouldn't Microsoft at least try to make a profit on their console at this point. I mean what's the point of constantly droping the price so your in the red when your system is already outselling the direct competition, the ps3 (that is to say that the Wii caters to a different type of gaming than the 360, not that it's better, just has a different audience).Insane00

because M$ litterally has money to burn.

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[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="GarchomPro"]yeh but wat happens if the price does go down..

Microsoft is gonna be kiking themselves in the butt.
ianuilliam

no, sony will because they are already losing alot of money for everysold PS3.

And Microsoft ISN'T losing money?

If I remember correctly, MS was MAKING 75$ per 360 sold as of November.

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#27 NFJSupreme
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If they are predicting this, plan on a holiday price war if Sony follows through with everyones predictions. MS seems like they are ready for it and have a plan (most businesses do). It will be a good holiday for the consumer.

maabus99

yes compitition means we win.:)

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#28 NFJSupreme
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="GarchomPro"]yeh but wat happens if the price does go down..

Microsoft is gonna be kiking themselves in the butt.
Nagidar

no, sony will because they are already losing alot of money for everysold PS3.

And Microsoft ISN'T losing money?

If I remember correctly, MS was MAKING 75$ per 360 sold as of November.

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[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="GarchomPro"]yeh but wat happens if the price does go down..

Microsoft is gonna be kiking themselves in the butt.
ianuilliam

no, sony will because they are already losing alot of money for everysold PS3.

And Microsoft ISN'T losing money?

Sony is losing a whole lot more than MS, hell, I think MS is even making money now.
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[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="GarchomPro"]yeh but wat happens if the price does go down..

Microsoft is gonna be kiking themselves in the butt.
ianuilliam

no, sony will because they are already losing alot of money for everysold PS3.

And Microsoft ISN'T losing money?

OH finally someone gets it. Microsoft is finally going to be in the black by the end of 08. Congrats M$!!!! I really wish people wuold keep up on news more often.

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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="GarchomPro"]yeh but wat happens if the price does go down..

Microsoft is gonna be kiking themselves in the butt.
Jhung207

no, sony will because they are already losing alot of money for everysold PS3.

And Microsoft ISN'T losing ALOT OF money?

fixed ;)

Sony is losing way more money on the ps3 than MS is losing on the xbox 360. At least software sales for MS is oustanding.

I wouldnt go as far as using the word "Outstanding"....i reserve that word when describing that is really outstanding like DS or Wii sales.

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#32 im_different
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you guys dont get it? there is like 4 million ps3's in stores right now for 500-600. if there really is a price drop that everyone is so sure about then they will sit their unsold meaning less orders from stores meaning less production of ps3's meaning ps3 part orders are smaller meaning the ps3 becomes more expensive to make. on top of that these consoles in stores cost around 800 dollars to make and will be costing only 400 dollars. im sure some sony will have to reimburse stores if their going to be losing 50 dollars per console at the new msrp if they originall got them for around 450. and if their isnt a price drop........then to developers it looks like for absolutely no reason the console is selling like crap. thats bad. se is already wary.......
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you guys dont get it? there is like 4 million ps3's in stores right now for 500-600. if there really is a price drop that everyone is so sure about then they will sit their unsold meaning less orders from stores meaning less production of ps3's meaning ps3 part orders are smaller meaning the ps3 becomes more expensive to make. on top of that these consoles in stores cost around 800 dollars to make and will be costing only 400 dollars. im sure some sony will have to reimburse stores if their going to be losing 50 dollars per console at the new msrp if they originall got them for around 450. and if their isnt a price drop........then to developers it looks like for absolutely no reason the console is selling like crap. thats bad. se is already wary.......im_different

Thank you for your expert opinion....(waits for im_different to reply saying he/his father/ his mother/ his cousin is a financial expert, works for sony, or works for SE)

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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]LOL if the price goes down, that means there will never be another ps3 price drop in a few YEARS whicle the 360 and wii prices keep dropping like hot cakes (I could imagine 360 costs $150, wii is free, and ps3 is just dropping to $380 lol.Locke562

Dropping like... Hotcakes?!

lol I was thinking the exact same thing.

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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=27100

read. rumor started by xbox's director of strategy. if theirs a rumor all over the internet that if they wait a couple months longer to get a ps3 then they can save 100 dollars,then no one will buy a ps3 till it comes. what happens if it was only a rumor and the price drop doesnt come? sony loses thousands of sales in the critical times they needed to convice 3rd party publishers to make games on their system. if ps3 shows crappy sales in august and september while people wait for the price drop what will become of ps3?

im_different

come on be serious, both companies no inside stuff from both side. sony probabyly planed this back in the summer, because devs where telling them to sell more systems.

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Why in the world would anyone buy a PS3 right now if there is even a hint of a possiblity of a 40 GB $399 SKU coming sooner than later? I mean seriously, how much HDD space do you need. Imo 40 GB is more than enough as I own the XBOX 360 and have yet to fill up the 20 GB HDD. I simply delete games as I finish them! So, anyone interested in buying a PS3 will more than likely wait for the 40 GB model and that could seriously put a dent in Sony's holiday plans!!!
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How many types of SKU's does Sony have now? 3? 4?
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#38 wklzip
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LOL if the price goes down, that means there will never be another ps3 price drop in a few YEARS whicle the 360 and wii prices keep dropping like hot cakes (I could imagine 360 costs $150, wii is free, and ps3 is just dropping to $380 lol.amorbis1001

That phrase made me :lol: