3D adds nothing to games huh? Sure...

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Yet devs are 'utilizing' 3D for 3DS. There are thing devs have to do to make 3D work at its best. They don't have to just throw it in.

Right, I'm a 'mainstream' gamer and you're in some special group. :roll:

Believe it or not, everything that comes to console wasn't inspired by the almighty PC. Yeah, I care about motion controls, because I was never a big fan of DA and I can see potential in the tech.

Like everything else, 3D will feel gimmicky until devs learn to truly make it enhance gameplay.

AnnoyedDragon

Apparently "utilizing" means just using the actual effect it seems...

I call you a mainstream gamer, because despite this being readily available even before this console generation started; you are only hyped by it now. Now, when the console companies decided to push it. You weren't hyped about it before because chances are you didn't know it was available, because no one was paid to make you aware. In other words, you rely on mainstream sources for your information.

And game play? I seriously doubt any meaningful form of game play will be invented using 3D depth. 3D isn't being pushed for game play, it is being pushed for 3D, the "it's like I can touch it" effect.

I stand my my original accusation, people only care because the big companies paid to make them care.

Oh, so I'm a 'mainstream' gamer because I don't have money to be buying every tech I see that interests me? I'm not even thinking of getting a gaming PC until years from now because I can't handle the expense. And you are what? Some sort of special gamer because you can? I didn't know gamers had some sort of social ranking.

Like I said, 3D can add to immersion and that is something that has increasingly become inportant to me .

That is all.

It will be a nice visual effect, I probably won't use though since the 3D kills the battery.FIipMode

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Wii4Fun"]

Yet devs are 'utilizing' 3D for 3DS. There are thing devs have to do to make 3D work at its best. They don't have to just throw it in.

Right, I'm a 'mainstream' gamer and you're in some special group. :roll:

Believe it or not, everything that comes to console wasn't inspired by the almighty PC. Yeah, I care about motion controls, because I was never a big fan of DA and I can see potential in the tech.

Like everything else, 3D will feel gimmicky until devs learn to truly make it enhance gameplay.

Wii4Fun

Apparently "utilizing" means just using the actual effect it seems...

I call you a mainstream gamer, because despite this being readily available even before this console generation started; you are only hyped by it now. Now, when the console companies decided to push it. You weren't hyped about it before because chances are you didn't know it was available, because no one was paid to make you aware. In other words, you rely on mainstream sources for your information.

And game play? I seriously doubt any meaningful form of game play will be invented using 3D depth. 3D isn't being pushed for game play, it is being pushed for 3D, the "it's like I can touch it" effect.

I stand my my original accusation, people only care because the big companies paid to make them care.

Oh, so I'm a 'mainstream' gamer because I don't have money to be buying every tech I see that interests me? I'm not even thinking of getting a gaming PC until years from now because I can't handle the expense. And you are what? Some sort of special gamer because you can? I didn't know gamers had some sort of social ranking.

Like I said, 3D can add to immersion and that is something that has increasingly become inportant to me as a gamer.

That is all.

Oh, so I'm a 'mainstream' gamer because I don't have money to be buying every tech I see that interests me? I'm not even thinking of getting a gaming PC until years from now because I can't handle the expense. And you are what? Some sort of special gamer because you can? I didn't know gamers had some sort of social ranking.

Like I said, 3D can add to immersion and that is something that has increasingly become inportant to me as a gamer.

That is all.

Wii4Fun

Interesting that your financial situation changed in line with when consoles decided to start hyping this...

Regardless, "that is all" usually indicates a desire to stop talking on a matter.

Wii4fun...I have to address your signature. Without all of the items on the right your precious gameplay wouldn't exist. FYI. PIZZA > Cheese, tomato sauce, bread. See how dumb that sounds?Bread_or_Decide

Gameplay is a term used to describe the interactive aspects of game design. An alternative name for gameplay that is finding favor with academics is game mechanics, however, it can be argued that gameplay and game mechanics are different concepts. Gameplay is what distinguishes a game from a non-interactive medium such as a book or film through the interaction with the game by the player.

Arising alongside video game development in the 1980s, gameplay was used solely within the context of video or computer games, though now its popularity has begun to see use in the description of other, more traditional, game forms. Generally, the term gameplay in video game terminology is used to describe the overall experience of playing the game excluding factors like graphics and sound. Game mechanics refers to sets of rules in a game that are intended to produce an enjoyable gaming experience. Often academic discussions tend to favor terms like game mechanics specifically to avoid 'gameplay'.

Interesting that your financial situation changed in line with when consoles decided to start hyping this...

Regardless, "that is all" usually indicates a desire to stop talking on a matter.

AnnoyedDragon

My financial situation is the same as it always was and will continue to be so until I leave College and start working.

THAT is all.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Wii4fun...I have to address your signature. Without all of the items on the right your precious gameplay wouldn't exist. FYI. PIZZA > Cheese, tomato sauce, bread. See how dumb that sounds?Wii4Fun

Gameplay is a term used to describe the interactive aspects of game design. An alternative name for gameplay that is finding favor with academics is game mechanics, however, it can be argued that gameplay and game mechanics are different concepts. Gameplay is what distinguishes a game from a non-interactive medium such as a book or film through the interaction with the game by the player.

Arising alongside video game development in the 1980s, gameplay was used solely within the context of video or computer games, though now its popularity has begun to see use in the description of other, more traditional, game forms. Generally, the term gameplay in video game terminology is used to describe the overall experience of playing the game excluding factors like graphics and sound. Game mechanics refers to sets of rules in a game that are intended to produce an enjoyable gaming experience. Often academic discussions tend to favor terms like game mechanics specifically to avoid 'gameplay'.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]It will be a nice visual effect, I probably won't use though since the 3D kills the battery.Bread_or_Decide

If anything it's a nice bonus, but at the end of the day it's the games that are going to be the main attraction. (just like the DS before it)

Funny, when Sony was pushing 3D everybody seemed to say 3D adds nothing and is a waste. Suddenly Nintendo starts doing it and it adds stuff to games.

Wasdie

It adds nothing for me tbh. My eyes make me incapable of seeing 3D.

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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Gameplay is a term used to describe the interactive aspects of game design. An alternative name for gameplay that is finding favor with academics is game mechanics, however, it can be argued that gameplay and game mechanics are different concepts. Gameplay is what distinguishes a game from a non-interactive medium such as a book or film through the interaction with the game by the player.

Arising alongside video game development in the 1980s, gameplay was used solely within the context of video or computer games, though now its popularity has begun to see use in the description of other, more traditional, game forms. Generally, the term gameplay in video game terminology is used to describe the overall experience of playing the game excluding factors like graphics and sound. Game mechanics refers to sets of rules in a game that are intended to produce an enjoyable gaming experience. Often academic discussions tend to favor terms like game mechanics specifically to avoid 'gameplay'.

Bread_or_Decide

It's not as if my sig says all that matters is gameplay and the rest don't. It just says that gameplay is the foundation of it all, the building block.

I do not look forward to every game throwing stuff at the screen to immerse the gamer. Immerse me with good story telling gameplay, and incredible worlds. Not cheap tricks. Bread_or_Decide

Then hopefully, like the 3DS, there will an option to turn it off for people who have problems with it or cannot see 3D or whatever.

If used well, it will be more than just a cheap trick.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]It will be a nice visual effect, I probably won't use though since the 3D kills the battery.Shinobishyguy

If anything it's a nice bonus, but at the end of the day it's the games that are going to be the main attraction. (just like the DS before it)

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[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

That's what they said about audio coming into films.

Jelley0

The only reason people care right now is because the big companies like Sony are hyping it, people didn't care at the beginning of this generation; when it was readily available.

They care because someone was paid to make sure they care.

3D neither improves game play or graphical quality, it just adds depth to a game. If the game sucks, it will suck in 3D.

HD doesn't improve gameplay, it just adds depth to a game. If the game sucks, it will suck in HD. So whats your point exactly...?

How many people even played a game in 3D? Seems like alot of people know what they're talking about, but won't share if they had any experiences with 3D games. Anyone wanna provide some insight?

I can't see 3D effects if I have to wear glasses, but once it is 3D without glasses I will be interested.

I can't see 3D effects if I have to wear glasses, but once it is 3D without glasses I will be interested.

dracos9000

Why can't you see 3D effects with glasses?

Why can't you see 3D effects with glasses?

glez13

Some people just cannot see stereo 3D, it's rare but it happens, a friend of my sisters cannot.

[QUOTE="glez13"]

Why can't you see 3D effects with glasses?

AnnoyedDragon

Some people just cannot see stereo 3D, it's rare but it happens, a friend of my sisters cannot.

But can they see it with glasses-free, if they can't see it with glasses?

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="glez13"]

Why can't you see 3D effects with glasses?

glez13

Some people just cannot see stereo 3D, it's rare but it happens, a friend of my sisters cannot.

But can they see it with glasses-free, if they can't see it with glasses?

Funny, when Sony was pushing 3D everybody seemed to say 3D adds nothing and is a waste. Suddenly Nintendo starts doing it and it adds stuff to games.

Wasdie

Funny, when Sony was pushing 3D everybody seemed to say 3D adds nothing and is a waste. Suddenly Nintendo starts doing it and it adds stuff to games.

Wasdie

Funny, when Nintendo was pushing touch screen and motion controls everyone called it a gimmick and was not cool. Suddenly Sony adds a touch screen on NGP and make a look alike wii-mote everyone is on board.

It's still expensive at the moment.. I'll pass.

Funny, when Nintendo was pushing touch screen and motion controls everyone called it a gimmick and was not cool. Suddenly Sony adds a touch screen on NGP and make a look alike wii-mote everyone is on board.

p3anut

I'd just like to point out that neither of these have changed my opinion on 3D or motion sensors.

Never mind that PC had 3D before either of the current gen systems, and that Nintendo got their motion sensor technology from a PC mouse developer.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Funny, when Sony was pushing 3D everybody seemed to say 3D adds nothing and is a waste. Suddenly Nintendo starts doing it and it adds stuff to games.

p3anut

Funny, when Nintendo was pushing touch screen and motion controls everyone called it a gimmick and was not cool. Suddenly Sony adds a touch screen on NGP and make a look alike wii-mote everyone is on board.

Where were you when people made fun of the wand?:? Not to mention, both Kinect and Move are often frowned upon around here anyways.:P Also iPod got the touch screen before NGP and so did many other smart phones. It's pretty much standard nowadays, (even though I dislike my iPhone's touch screen). Can't really fault on the NGP for having it now that's basically on MANY other devices now can we?:P That's like saying, "The PSP has terrible battery life! But when the 3DS has a bad battery life, it's all good."... Oh wait.:lol:

Crytek was developing a game that could only be played in 3D. Stuff they learned from that attempt made its way in Crysis 2.

Anyway, I own a 3D monitor. I love playing games in 3D, it enhances the atmosphere a lot. That's the only way I play Starcraft 2 now.

It can also add to immersion. Like seeing bullets fly out at you in an FPS game, or shrapnel flying out of the screen during an explosion and many other such things.

I [/spoiler]

Wii4Fun

Funny, when Sony was pushing 3D everybody seemed to say 3D adds nothing and is a waste. Suddenly Nintendo starts doing it and it adds stuff to games.

Wasdie

Funny, when Sony was pushing 3D everybody seemed to say 3D adds nothing and is a waste. Suddenly Nintendo starts doing it and it adds stuff to games.

Wasdie

Funny, when Sony was pushing 3D everybody seemed to say 3D adds nothing and is a waste. Suddenly Nintendo starts doing it and it adds stuff to games.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Wii4Fun"]

It can also add to immersion. Like seeing bullets fly out at you in an FPS game, or shrapnel flying out of the screen during an explosion and many other such things.

I [/spoiler]

meetroid8

Playing isometric games and having the graphics pop out of the screen is amazing. Torchlight, for example, is like watching toys come to life.

But I like the 3D acting more like a window.

What exactly does 3d bring to gaming? Nothing I can think of.

Graphics updates at the very least allow for more creative freedom and increased visual clarity helps with games where, for example, you might need to hit something far in the distance.

All 3d does is make things very slightly look like they come off the screen. oooooohh aaaaahh.

3DS has a great lineup but I care about as much for the 3d as I did for the virtual boy.

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[QUOTE="glez13"]

Why can't you see 3D effects with glasses?

Some people just cannot see stereo 3D, it's rare but it happens, a friend of my sisters cannot.

But can they see it with glasses-free, if they can't see it with glasses?

Motion and 3d. I used to play games standing up and moving my controller side to side when I wanted to move my hero. Why didn't these things come out then, when I was actually good with them?!

I hope not. I would like to keep gaming after this generation.