3D Coming to PS3, all consoles will be supported via firmware upgrades!!!

ITHOUGHT IT ALREADY DID 4-D!!!!!!!!!!!!

gensigns

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

No, just 3d viewing glasses... ever heard of 3d movies?

Bebi_vegeta

You'll probably need 120Hz HDTV.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Which require much more than most current HDTVs, unless you are talking about the magenta/cyan glasses.SpruceCaboose

You'll probably need 120Hz HDTV.

What's your TV?

3D just hurts my eyes. Do not want.

Didn't it require a special high class tv?

its another gimmic. i say forza 3 looks better than that and gt5 better than that

You need a 3D capable TV and those are about $3000-5000 for a 37"!93soccer

Can you link to that TV, i've never seen one.

Don't you have to have the HDTV that supports this though?

let's just call this what it is, 3D = sixaxis

[QUOTE="93soccer"]You need a 3D capable TV and those are about $3000-5000 for a 37"!Bebi_vegeta

Can you link to that TV, i've never seen one.

Here's a 60" 3D ready tv a buddy of mine got a couple months ago. 1,200 at Best Buy, cheaper than that on the web.

Ehhh, they at least could add classic color-coded 3D support for those who don't have those TV :P since pixels get distance values, i don't think it would be complicated.

I don't see reason why not include 3DTVs they might get standard in 1-2 years in acceptable price, and PS3 owners will be rewarded... anyway isn't 360 version of Avatar will have 3dTV support?

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="93soccer"]You need a 3D capable TV and those are about $3000-5000 for a 37"!santoron

Can you link to that TV, i've never seen one.

Here's a 60" 3D ready tv a buddy of mine got a couple months ago. 1,200 at Best Buy, cheaper than that on the web.

So basicaly, your just pointing me to a HDTV ? Unless you can tell me, what makes this TV 3D ready?

3D vision is still better and is supported in every game.

[QUOTE="santoron"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Can you link to that TV, i've never seen one.

Here's a 60" 3D ready tv a buddy of mine got a couple months ago. 1,200 at Best Buy, cheaper than that on the web.

So basicaly, your just pointing me to a HDTV ? Unless you can tell me, what makes this TV 3D ready?

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="santoron"]

Here's a 60" 3D ready tv a buddy of mine got a couple months ago. 1,200 at Best Buy, cheaper than that on the web.

Cait__Sith

So basicaly, your just pointing me to a HDTV ? Unless you can tell me, what makes this TV 3D ready?

And this is not in every HDTV? Because it just seems like it's crap in order to boost sells. But anyways, what's in red is the most important... if it's the same as Nvidia 3D... then you need view glasses and 120Hz monitor.

[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

So basicaly, your just pointing me to a HDTV ? Unless you can tell me, what makes this TV 3D ready?

And this is not in every HDTV? Because it just seems like it's crap in order to boost sells. But anyways, what's in red is the most important... if it's the same as Nvidia 3D... then you need view glasses and 120Hz monitor.

I remember someone posted this article a while back:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/04/ps3s-new-3d-mode-captured-on-video-coming-in-2010-to-all-exist/

It looks like you need to get a 200hz TV. I don't know if I would get into it, considering I just bought a nice new TV about a year ago.

I remember someone posted this article a while back:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/04/ps3s-new-3d-mode-captured-on-video-coming-in-2010-to-all-exist/

It looks like you need to get a 200hz TV. I don't know if I would get into it, considering I just bought a nice new TV about a year ago.

tubbyc

200hz... wow... that's above standard... good luck with that Sony. But then again, how true is this blog or article... i've heard of 120Hz,240Hz and 480Hz... but 200hz? And could the PS3 pump up 200FPS and HD.... I think not.

[QUOTE="tubbyc"]

I remember someone posted this article a while back:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/04/ps3s-new-3d-mode-captured-on-video-coming-in-2010-to-all-exist/

It looks like you need to get a 200hz TV. I don't know if I would get into it, considering I just bought a nice new TV about a year ago.

Bebi_vegeta

200hz... wow... that's above standard... good luck with that Sony. But then again, how true is this blog or article... i've heard of 120Hz,240Hz and 480Hz... but 200hz? And could the PS3 pump up 200FPS and HD.... I think not.

120 (NTSC) would be the equivalent of 100 (PAL/SECAM). 240 would be the equivalent of 200.

From what I understand, I think the TVs with the new Motionflow technology can add in extra frames, even for gaming, hence doing a lot of extra work to avoid jerky motion.

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/what-is-motionflow-200hz/

if all thats required is a high hz tv then im set. mine goes up to 600 :D

if all thats required is a high hz tv then im set. mine goes up to 600 :D

z4twenny

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="tubbyc"]

I remember someone posted this article a while back:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/04/ps3s-new-3d-mode-captured-on-video-coming-in-2010-to-all-exist/

It looks like you need to get a 200hz TV. I don't know if I would get into it, considering I just bought a nice new TV about a year ago.

tubbyc

200hz... wow... that's above standard... good luck with that Sony. But then again, how true is this blog or article... i've heard of 120Hz,240Hz and 480Hz... but 200hz? And could the PS3 pump up 200FPS and HD.... I think not.

120 (NTSC) would be the equivalent of 100 (PAL/SECAM). 240 would be the equivalent of 200.

From what I understand, I think the TVs with the new Motionflow technology can add in extra frames, even for gaming, hence doing a lot of extra work to avoid jerky motion.

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/what-is-motionflow-200hz/

And if the source, which is the PS3, can't give 240Hz or 200Hz... what's the point?

I expect there is more to it than just getting a high refresh rate screen.

Splitting the image requires performance, seeing how PS3 is already using all of its performance to run the game; you probably need a special Sony TV that can accelerate the effect.

I wont care as long as its optional, if it isnt Ill be mad, 3D things (you know what I mean, like popping out of TV 3d) give me a headache.

dragonfly110

[QUOTE="tubbyc"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

200hz... wow... that's above standard... good luck with that Sony. But then again, how true is this blog or article... i've heard of 120Hz,240Hz and 480Hz... but 200hz? And could the PS3 pump up 200FPS and HD.... I think not.

Bebi_vegeta

120 (NTSC) would be the equivalent of 100 (PAL/SECAM). 240 would be the equivalent of 200.

From what I understand, I think the TVs with the new Motionflow technology can add in extra frames, even for gaming, hence doing a lot of extra work to avoid jerky motion.

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/what-is-motionflow-200hz/

And if the source, which is the PS3, can't give 240Hz or 200Hz... what's the point?

WTF? Who said it couldn't.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="tubbyc"]

120 (NTSC) would be the equivalent of 100 (PAL/SECAM). 240 would be the equivalent of 200.

From what I understand, I think the TVs with the new Motionflow technology can add in extra frames, even for gaming, hence doing a lot of extra work to avoid jerky motion.

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/what-is-motionflow-200hz/

skektek

And if the source, which is the PS3, can't give 240Hz or 200Hz... what's the point?

WTF? Who said it couldn't.

Wow, how many games are doing 200fps on the ps3 while being in HD?

[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

And if the source, which is the PS3, can't give 240Hz or 200Hz... what's the point?

Bebi_vegeta

WTF? Who said it couldn't.

Wow, how many games are doing 200fps on the ps3 while being in HD?

*facepalm* people, Pixel Transmition =/= Pixel Rendering. In other words PS3 and any other device don't need to render another frame to trasmit any frame for TV, they can trasmit the same frame as last time since it's still somewhare in memory. Why we have 200Hz TV's still it wen you plag DVB tuner that can reseve more then 50/60 frames still TV display them at 200Hz.

Now exmaple how 3DTV would work on PS3, Sony say that HDMI chip that inside PS3 can trasmit 3DTV this mean 120Hz to TV, to make 3DTV work GPU need to render double number of frames, two frames rendered in other camera angle and some pixel tuning. Now we got Wipeout HD that renders 60fps, in 3DTV mode it can render 30 "3D frames" per secend for sure. It renders one "3D frame", HDMI transmits it and retrasmit same data until new 2 frames will come. Simple as that. Maybe it's 30fps, but it's 3DTV that can be display on TV that supports that technology.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="skektek"]

WTF? Who said it couldn't.

ShadowriverUB

Wow, how many games are doing 200fps on the ps3 while being in HD?

*facepalm* people, Pixel Transmition =/= Pixel Rendering. In other words PS3 and any other device don't need to render another frame to trasmit any frame for TV, they can trasmit the same frame as last time since it's still somewhare in memory. Why we have 200Hz TV's still it wen you plag DVB tuner that can reseve more then 50/60 frames still TV display them at 200Hz.

Now exmaple how 3DTV would work on PS3, Sony say that HDMI chip that inside PS3 can trasmit 3DTV this mean 120Hz to TV, to make 3DTV work GPU need to render double number of frames, two frames rendered in other camera angle and some pixel tuning. Now we got Wipeout HD that renders 60fps, in 3DTV mode it can render 30 "3D frames" per secend for sure. It renders one "3D frame", HDMI transmits it and retrasmit same data until new 2 frames will come. Simple as that. Maybe it's 30fps, but it's 3DTV that can be display on TV that supports that technology.

HELLO? Do you even know how the 3D will work? Hence why I said the source can't handle it, not the output!

If it's anything like Nvidia, you'll need 2 images, both needing 60FPS for smooth gaming... which the PS3 can't even deliver for 99.9% of all games.

requirement of new 3d tv that will cost a ton makes this pointless PR. Ontain

???? does anyone know the process ... HOW can people say it will cost $$$

They way i thought it was is that you need a TV that accepted 120Hz input to be able to create 2 seprate pictures running at 60FPS.... is there more that is needed??

My tv is around 100Hz so not enough. In all honesty though, this 3D concept just sounds headache-inducing. What is it, like stereoscopic vision/glasses? If that's what it is then no thanks.

For TVs to be able to do 3D they need to accept a 120Hz INPUT.. not run at 120HZ or more.

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Wow, how many games are doing 200fps on the ps3 while being in HD?

Bebi_vegeta

*facepalm* people, Pixel Transmition =/= Pixel Rendering. In other words PS3 and any other device don't need to render another frame to trasmit any frame for TV, they can trasmit the same frame as last time since it's still somewhare in memory. Why we have 200Hz TV's still it wen you plag DVB tuner that can reseve more then 50/60 frames still TV display them at 200Hz.

Now exmaple how 3DTV would work on PS3, Sony say that HDMI chip that inside PS3 can trasmit 3DTV this mean 120Hz to TV, to make 3DTV work GPU need to render double number of frames, two frames rendered in other camera angle and some pixel tuning. Now we got Wipeout HD that renders 60fps, in 3DTV mode it can render 30 "3D frames" per secend for sure. It renders one "3D frame", HDMI transmits it and retrasmit same data until new 2 frames will come. Simple as that. Maybe it's 30fps, but it's 3DTV that can be display on TV that supports that technology.

HELLO? Do you even know how the 3D will work? Hence why I said the source can't handle it, not the output!

If it's anything like Nvidia, you'll need 2 images, both needing 60FPS for smooth gaming... which the PS3 can't even deliver for 99.9% of all games.

This makes 3DTV impossible on PS3? No

Also you consider PS3 3DTV playable (yes, playable) demos on CES as some kind of massive illusion? Whatever standard they showed they useing stereo frames (double frames needed).

This is getting confusing, 3d 3d games...

This is getting confusing, 3d 3d games...

bad_fur_day

Well in theory the 3D that we had and have now it's just an illusion :P in reality your TV screen is flat and can only display 2D matrix of pixels alone

requirement of new 3d tv that will cost a ton makes this pointless PR. Ontain

you can use it with a monitor

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

*facepalm* people, Pixel Transmition =/= Pixel Rendering. In other words PS3 and any other device don't need to render another frame to trasmit any frame for TV, they can trasmit the same frame as last time since it's still somewhare in memory. Why we have 200Hz TV's still it wen you plag DVB tuner that can reseve more then 50/60 frames still TV display them at 200Hz.

Now exmaple how 3DTV would work on PS3, Sony say that HDMI chip that inside PS3 can trasmit 3DTV this mean 120Hz to TV, to make 3DTV work GPU need to render double number of frames, two frames rendered in other camera angle and some pixel tuning. Now we got Wipeout HD that renders 60fps, in 3DTV mode it can render 30 "3D frames" per secend for sure. It renders one "3D frame", HDMI transmits it and retrasmit same data until new 2 frames will come. Simple as that. Maybe it's 30fps, but it's 3DTV that can be display on TV that supports that technology.

ShadowriverUB

HELLO? Do you even know how the 3D will work? Hence why I said the source can't handle it, not the output!

If it's anything like Nvidia, you'll need 2 images, both needing 60FPS for smooth gaming... which the PS3 can't even deliver for 99.9% of all games.

This makes 3DTV impossible on PS3? No

Also you consider PS3 3DTV playable (yes, playable) demos on CES as some kind of massive illusion? Whatever standard they showed they useing stereo frames (double frames needed).

It's exactly like Nvidia 3D... which requiered good hardware in order to have good FPS... and guess what, PS3 has a hard enough time with frames per seconds. I'll just leave it has, you have no idea and beleive what Sony says to you...I'm sure you're still waiting on the 120fps with full 1080p games that Sony promised you, right?

For TVs to be able to do 3D they need to accept a 120Hz INPUT.. not run at 120HZ or more.

Ravenlore_basic

Nvidia requierements are 120Hz output for monitors... so I assume it will be the same for HDTV and Sony.