3DS Takes Over The Handheld Market, Vita Who? (Haters, U Mad?)

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#1 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Sorry about the provocative topic title, that was just done to get your attention :P

Anyway, on to the meat of the matter...

So Monster Hunter Tri G just launched in Japan this week, and Famitsu has reported its sales numbers for its first two days on the market...

Monster Hunter Tri G sold out. 471,000 units were sold in just two days, leading to shortages throughout the country. Capcom undershipped the title, apparently, and the second shipment of the game is not expected to arrive until December 17th... which is when the Vita is supposed to launch in the country too. Ouch.

Even better? The 3DS had its biggest week in the country ever. Bigger even than its launch week (which set records, in case you have forgotten). The 3DS sold 370,000 units during this tracking period. It's finally starting to sell like the true successor to the DS!

Even more good news!

The 3DS has beaten every single (Famitsu tracked) week 49 that the DS ever managed to pull off! This is just its first year on the market!

3DS 2011:378,114

2004:181,231 (DS)

2005:295,701 (DS)

2006:375,468 (DSL+DS)

2007:164,576 (DSL)

2008:126,596 (DSi+DSL)

2009:113,052 (DSi+DSiXL+DSL)

2010:106,633 (DSi+DSiXL+DSL)


More good news? The Pokemon Company announced it will be making a major announcement... on December 17th. Which, surprise, is when the Vita releases.

Looks like Nintendo is going out of its way to crush Sony and the Vita. The 3DS had a very bad start, but it has recovered beautifully, and you have to give Iwata props for that.

It will be interesting to see if the 3DS can actually outsell the Vita the week the Vita launches.

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#2 Swift_Boss_A
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Am I bad for wanting PSV to beat 3DS :P Ninty have dominated for far too long lol. But excellent numbers and haters have been ownd. Declaring failure of system the first few months of release was stupid anyway, you would think gamers learnt that when PS3 made a comeback.

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#3 TheShadowLord07
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smart move nintnedo for getting a monster hunter game on the 3ds before the vita

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Am I bad for wanting PSV to beat 3DS :P Ninty have dominated for far too long lol. But excellent numbers and haters have been ownd. Declaring failure of system the first few months of release was stupid anyway, you would think gamers learnt that when PS3 made a comeback.

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Nah, you're fine, and you're certainly not alone :P But honestly, there is slim to none chance that the Vita can ever hope to catch up with the 3DS now, let alone beat it. Nintendo dominates the handheld scene, and with good reason- they 'get' the handheld market like no other company does. There's a reason why they've always emerged on the top of things in this market. Because they know what works and what doesn't, and even when they botch things up, like they did with the 3DS, they are incredibly receptive. Turning an entire system around like that in five weeks is very impressive, and I don't think any other company could have managed this.
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So Monster Hunter Tri G just launched in Japan this week, and Famitsu has reported its sales numbers for its first two days on the market...

Monster Hunter Tri G sold out. 471,000 units were sold in just two days, leading to shortages throughout the country. Capcom undershipped the title, apparently, and the second shipment of the game is not expected to arrive until December 17th... which is when the Vita is supposed to launch in the country too. Ouch.

Even better? The 3DS had its biggest week in the country ever. Bigger even than its launch week (which set records, in case you have forgotten). The 3DS sold 370,000 units during this tracking period. It's finally starting to sell like the true successor to the DS!

Even more good news!

The 3DS has beaten every single (Famitsu tracked) week 49 that the DS ever managed to pull off! This is just its first year on the market!

3DS 2011:378,114

2004:181,231 (DS)

2005:295,701 (DS)

2006:375,468 (DSL+DS)

2007:164,576 (DSL)

2008:126,596 (DSi+DSL)

2009:113,052 (DSi+DSiXL+DSL)

2010:106,633 (DSi+DSiXL+DSL)


More good news? The Pokemon Company announced it will be making a major announcement... on December 17th. Which, surprise, is when the Vita releases.

Looks like Nintendo is going out of its way to crush Sony and the Vita. The 3DS had a very bad start, but it has recovered beautifully, and you have to give Iwata props for that.

It will be interesting to see if the 3DS can actually outsell the Vita the week the Vita launches.

charizard1605

Idk why you doubt the 3ds will surpass the ds overall. Games sell systems and the 3ds already has better games than the ds in its first year.

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#6 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

So Monster Hunter Tri G just launched in Japan this week, and Famitsu has reported its sales numbers for its first two days on the market...

Monster Hunter Tri G sold out. 471,000 units were sold in just two days, leading to shortages throughout the country. Capcom undershipped the title, apparently, and the second shipment of the game is not expected to arrive until December 17th... which is when the Vita is supposed to launch in the country too. Ouch.

Even better? The 3DS had its biggest week in the country ever. Bigger even than its launch week (which set records, in case you have forgotten). The 3DS sold 370,000 units during this tracking period. It's finally starting to sell like the true successor to the DS!

Even more good news!

The 3DS has beaten every single (Famitsu tracked) week 49 that the DS ever managed to pull off! This is just its first year on the market!

3DS 2011:378,114

2004:181,231 (DS)

2005:295,701 (DS)

2006:375,468 (DSL+DS)

2007:164,576 (DSL)

2008:126,596 (DSi+DSL)

2009:113,052 (DSi+DSiXL+DSL)

2010:106,633 (DSi+DSiXL+DSL)


More good news? The Pokemon Company announced it will be making a major announcement... on December 17th. Which, surprise, is when the Vita releases.

Looks like Nintendo is going out of its way to crush Sony and the Vita. The 3DS had a very bad start, but it has recovered beautifully, and you have to give Iwata props for that.

It will be interesting to see if the 3DS can actually outsell the Vita the week the Vita launches.

Kaszilla

Idk why you doubt the 3ds will surpass the ds overall. Games sell systems and the 3ds already has better games than the ds in its first year.

Because the market dynamics have significantly changed from seven years ago when the DS launched.

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#7 Swift_Boss_A
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Nah, you're fine, and you're certainly not alone :P But honestly, there is slim to none chance that the Vita can ever hope to catch up with the 3DS now, let alone beat it. Nintendo dominates the handheld scene, and with good reason- they 'get' the handheld market like no other company does. There's a reason why they've always emerged on the top of things in this market. Because they know what works and what doesn't, and even when they botch things up, like they did with the 3DS, they are incredibly receptive. Turning an entire system around like that in five weeks is very impressive, and I don't think any other company could have managed this.charizard1605

That's why I want PSV to win, because it's extremely unlikely lol. But it would be interesting to see how it performs throughout its lifespan. Sony surely learnt a thing or two with the PSP failure. But then again the idea of some games not running without a memory card -which are expensive- is pretty stupid on their behalf. I have to say though as a gamer who has never been interested in handhled gaming, the PSV is definitely tempting me with the dual sticks and design. As good as 3DS is I really don't care for 3D.

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lol MonHun still prints money in Japan I see. I wonder why Capcom underestimated the game by so much though?

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Nah, you're fine, and you're certainly not alone :P But honestly, there is slim to none chance that the Vita can ever hope to catch up with the 3DS now, let alone beat it. Nintendo dominates the handheld scene, and with good reason- they 'get' the handheld market like no other company does. There's a reason why they've always emerged on the top of things in this market. Because they know what works and what doesn't, and even when they botch things up, like they did with the 3DS, they are incredibly receptive. Turning an entire system around like that in five weeks is very impressive, and I don't think any other company could have managed this.Swift_Boss_A

That's why I want PSV to win, because it's extremely unlikely lol. But it would interesting to see how it performs throughout its likespan. Sony surely learnt a thing or two with the PSP failure. But then again the idea of some games not running without a memory card -which are expensive- is pretty stupid on their behalf. I have to say though as a gamer who has never been interested in handhled gaming, the PSV is definitely tempting me with the dual sticks and design. As good as 3DS is I really don't care for 3D.

Everyone likes rooting for the underdog :P I think the Vita will have a similar life to the PSP- in other words, it will do very, very well. Sony have their own niche of the handheld market now, and they should be able to hold onto it with the Vita. And I think the fact that handhelds never interested you is precisely the reason the Vita does- it's the perfect emulation of the home console experience. Until now, there has been a clear demarcation between home consoles and handhelds. The Vita looks like the first handheld that gets rid of those divisions. I believe that might be the reason why it appeals to you.
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Everyone likes rooting for the underdog :P I think the Vita will have a similar life to the PSP- in other words, it will do very, very well. Sony have their own niche of the handheld market now, and they should be able to hold onto it with the Vita. And I think the fact that handhelds never interested you is precisely the reason the Vita does- it's the perfect emulation of the home console experience. Until now, there has been a clear demarcation between home consoles and handhelds. The Vita looks like the first handheld that gets rid of those divisions. I believe that might be the reason why it appeals to you.charizard1605

Yeah you are right on the money.

Imn surprised Tri G sold out. Isn't it just the same game as the one released on PSP on but a little expanded? Well anyway with Monster Hunter 4 also secured for 3DS Sony better hope they find their equivalent.

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Imn surprised Tri G sold out. Isn't it just the same game as the one released on PSP on but a little expanded? Well anyway with Monster Hunter 4 also secured for 3DS Sony better hope they find their equivalent.

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No, that was Portable 3rd. Tri G is the expanded version of the game that was released on the Wii.

lol MonHun still prints money in Japan I see. I wonder why Capcom underestimated the game by so much though?

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Low install base for the 3DS right now (PSP has sold 17 million in Japan, 3DS is not even at 3 million yet)
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mh3ds

It's all sold out. Like everywhere.

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mh3ds

It's all sold out. Like everywhere.

crippled_ram

Ooooh boy. Really, I want to see how the Vita performs at launch now. The timing of the second MonHun shipment along with the Pokemon announcement seems to be incredibly deliberate now.

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I don't care which one wins the market. I still will be getting a Vita for Uncharted: Golden Abyss. :D
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Honestly having owned both a couple of DS consoles and PSP consoles over the years I would say that the Vitas success will rest entirely upon wether or not there will be a steady stream of quality games not just weak console ports or yearly sports rehashes which were the bane of the PSP's existence. That being said if nintendo doesn't stop leaving 3DS owners (me) with multiple month droughts where there is no new game worth playing it may be a more even playing field. Oh and nice work on one of the most assenine titles of all time...

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Honestly having owned both a couple of DS consoles and PSP consoles over the years I would say that the Vitas success will rest entirely upon wether or not there will be a steady stream of quality games not just weak console ports or yearly sports rehashes which were the bane of the PSP's existence. That being said if nintendo doesn't stop leaving 3DS owners (me) with multiple month droughts where there is no new game worth playing it may be a more even playing field. Oh and nice work on one of the most assenine titles of all time...

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The Vita seems primed to do very well. I think it will retain the PSP's userbase just fine :) The 3DS droughts are over. The reason it got such a huge drought to begin with has to do with, I suspect, the system being rushed out of the door for a March launch (this is also evidenced by the fact that most of the system features and functionality weren't even fully unlocked until NOW, a few weeks ago). And thanks about the topic title :P I had something more neutral to begin with (it just said Monster Hunter Tri G sold out), but no one was responding, so I changed it to something that would catch everyone's attention :P
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#17 nameless12345
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So 3DS and Vita can't coexist and one must drop dead eh? :P

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#18 Grawse
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Still no date for western release :(

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#19 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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So 3DS and Vita can't coexist and one must drop dead eh? :P

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Totally. Didn't you know that's how the world works?

Still no date for western release :(

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Release date of Fall 2012 http://mynintendonews.com/2011/10/22/nintendo-3ds-monster-hunter-3g-to-release-fall-2012-in-europe/
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#20 BlbecekBobecek
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Im actually sad for Sony because they have absolutely no chance to beat 3DS with Vita - they went the wrong way from the start. No one wants to have cinematic experience on a handheld! Most people will alway pick pokémon over uncharted on their handheld...

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Release date of Fall 2012 http://mynintendonews.com/2011/10/22/nintendo-3ds-monster-hunter-3g-to-release-fall-2012-in-europe/charizard1605

game just came out it and the west is having a fall 2012 release date? what the hell capcom

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Im actually sad for Sony because they have absolutely no chance to beat 3DS with Vita - they went the wrong way from the start. No one wants to have cinematic experience on a handheld! Most people will alway pick pokémon over uncharted on their handheld...

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70 mil chose psp/vita for a cinematic portable so that's your opinion and I would never pick pokemon over uncharted or any N title for that matter
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Im actually sad for Sony because they have absolutely no chance to beat 3DS with Vita - they went the wrong way from the start. No one wants to have cinematic experience on a handheld! Most people will alway pick pokémon over uncharted on their handheld...

BlbecekBobecek

They pick way in which they more resistive to mobile phone games then 3DS is, ever wondered why exacly DS games are the once that shows on AppStore, not PSP games? Because they simple and easy to be ported.

Also as long as they diffrent from Nintedo they will sell.... because they diffrent, Wii is selling because it's diffrent, where the rest of the market divided between PS3 and 360 (which are same).... and buy Wii as extra console lol

Sure they might not be 1st, but not being first does not mean fail as most sheeps think, as a reminder PSP is only console that successed that far againts Nintendo in handhelds and it probably (not sure) only series of consoles that going againts Nintendo in 2nd generation. It's more a success then fail

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#24 BlbecekBobecek
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Im actually sad for Sony because they have absolutely no chance to beat 3DS with Vita - they went the wrong way from the start. No one wants to have cinematic experience on a handheld! Most people will alway pick pokémon over uncharted on their handheld...

p4s2p0

70 mil ppl want a cinematic portable so that's your opinion and I would never pick pokemon over uncharted

I sure hope you are right because I want Sony to stay in the handheld industry, but if I wanted a handheld, I would definitely pick up the 3DS...

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[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Im actually sad for Sony because they have absolutely no chance to beat 3DS with Vita - they went the wrong way from the start. No one wants to have cinematic experience on a handheld! Most people will alway pick pokémon over uncharted on their handheld...

BlbecekBobecek

70 mil ppl want a cinematic portable so that's your opinion and I would never pick pokemon over uncharted

I sure hope you are right because I want Sony to stay in the handheld industry, but if I wanted a handheld, I would definitely pick up the 3DS...

I think both will see expanses in their audiences like now that 3ds has analog shooters will be easier and vita having touch will get games psp couldn't do well. One things for sure both are in for some good times, looking forward to many new games.
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Sure, if you want to stay in a bubble, where only 3DS and Vita exist.

Otherwise, for everyone else living in the real world, smartphones and tablets have taken over.

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for everyone else living in the real world, smartphones and tablets have taken over.Blue_Shield
Ppl living in the real world acknowledge all ways to game, even if they don't like the particular platform. "Mobile Gaming Played by 29 Percent of All Subscribers" http://www.industrygamers.com/news/mobile-phone-gaming-played-by-29-percent-of-all-subscribers/ Just cause they sell a lot doesn't mean they've taken over for gaming.
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#28 minh800
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Whoa. MHP3rd's and MHP2ndG's opening sales eclipsed those sales. Poor 3DS. MH will never be as popular on that system as it was on the PSP. Looks like Capcom done mucked up. Instead of announcing MH4 for the 3DS and being satisfied with low sales, they should have announced MHP3rdG for the PSP and Vita and watch as they rake in dough like none other.

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Sure, if you want to stay in a bubble, where only 3DS and Vita exist.

Otherwise, for everyone else living in the real world, smartphones and tablets have taken over.

Blue_Shield
Yeah, if you want to pay to play games that for the most part feel like free flash games on the internet. I'm sure some smartphone games are actually good, but I haven't come across one yet.
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Yeah the Japanese market effects me so much, I am mad.

Wait...

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#31 minh800
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Yeah the Japanese market effects me so much, I am mad.

Wait...

Wasdie

But the Japanese market does effect handheld gamers in the West. Japanese developers are the main supporters of handhelds, and if a handheld system doesn't do well in Japan, or if one system sees lower software sales than the other, developers will abandon it.

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Pokemon Company announcing something?

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#33 flipdc5
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Pokemon Company announcing something?

el3m2tigre

Nintendo announce Pokemon Emerald remake for 3DS

Stocks drop 15%

lol.

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#34 hoola
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There is just a lack of games that I want on it right now. I've basically stopped playing my DS because the games are so shallow. Really the only games I even like on handhelds anymore are Pokemon and I still haven't got Black/white after playing the extremely disappointing Diamond/pearl.

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but the Vita isnt out yet ......... Lets wait and see how that performs before getting all fanboy and prevocative. It may well flop but im not so sure.
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#36 Animal-Mother
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Vitas not even out yet worldwide. How could you even say it took over the market when it was the only thing on it.

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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

Pokemon Company announcing something?

flipdc5

Nintendo announce Pokemon Emerald remake for 3DS

Stocks drop 15%

lol.

lol you kidding me? anything pokemon announced = stocks rising

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Nice good bueno, I will probably get marioland on the 17th this month. hat game looks fantastic.

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the 3d graphics give me a headache on the 3ds and the psp scares me for vita's future
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#40 Heil68
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Oh noez, Sony is doomed.
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#41 rasengan2552
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Sure, if you want to stay in a bubble, where only 3DS and Vita exist.

Otherwise, for everyone else living in the real world, smartphones and tablets have taken over.

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SHHHHH ! these are teh hardcorez gamehs, dey know wats best.
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#42 minh800
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Oh man, looks like MHTriG has one of the lowest (if not the lowest) ratings on Amazon for a handheld MH game. http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%AB%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3-%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8F%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC3G/dp/B005LML9ZC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

I wonder how that'll translate into sales. And I wonder what they're bashing it for.

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#43 nintendoboy16
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Oh man, looks like MHTriG has one of the lowest (if not the lowest) ratings on Amazon for a handheld MH game. http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%AB%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3-%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8F%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC3G/dp/B005LML9ZC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

I wonder how that'll translate into sales. And I wonder what they're bashing it for.

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I have a feeling those reviews were done by trolls. This happens a lot when games release.
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#44 minh800
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[QUOTE="minh800"]

Oh man, looks like MHTriG has one of the lowest (if not the lowest) ratings on Amazon for a handheld MH game. http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%AB%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3-%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8F%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC3G/dp/B005LML9ZC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

I wonder how that'll translate into sales. And I wonder what they're bashing it for.

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I have a feeling those reviews were done by trolls. This happens a lot when games release.

Note that its lower than the other handheld MH games. It's also the same score as Tri. I'm thinking the game just isn't well liked by the public.

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#45 p4s2p0
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I would think the reviews in japan are good where MH sells good
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#46 layton2012
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Most likely people are mad it's on the 3ds instead if vita or psp
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#47 madsnakehhh
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Glad for the 3DS, this will only means more support from devs, however, i'm still pretty confident that Vita will do fine, beating the 3DS? at this point it seems unlikely, but as long as is not marketed as a mini PS3 i think it will be fine.

Anyway, i'm getting a 3DS this Saturday, YAY!!!

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#48 nintendoboy16
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Most likely people are mad it's on the 3ds instead if vita or psplayton2012
That's sounds like pure Sony fanboyism right there.
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#49 minh800
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Most likely people are mad it's on the 3ds instead if vita or psplayton2012

Or maybe the game's just not that well liked? Other games, like FFXIII got low scores too. Of course I'd like to see some translations to see if it what they said is justified.

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#50 layton2012
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[QUOTE="layton2012"]Most likely people are mad it's on the 3ds instead if vita or pspminh800

Or maybe the game's just not that well liked? Other games, like FFXIII got low scores too. Of course I'd like to see some translations to see if it what they said is justified.

Or maybe it's fanboyism we won't know until we play it.