3DS vs PSVita; Pro/Con List.

Help me add to this pro/con list comparing the 3DS to the PSVita. Any reasonable pro/cons will be added. And anything to do with software doesn't count. I'm specifically comparing hardware. Let's try and keep this as fair as possible.

Vita;

Pro-
OLED screen
Multi touch
Rear touch pad
Dual analog sticks
Better Ram (512MB Ram and 256MB VRam, unless the downgraded rumours are true, which means it's 256MB Ram and 128MB VRam)
Better CPU (4-core 2GHz)
Better GPU (SGX543MP4+)
Higher resolution

Con-
OLED technology with low life expectancy (especially with the Blue in the RGB balance)
No stylus compatibility
Fingers will block screen view
Uses propriety Sonymedia storage (up to 32GB)
Lower Game Cartridge storage (up to 4GB announced)

3DS;

Pro-
Glasses-less 3D
LCD screens with high life expectancy
Dual screens
3D Camera
Uses SecureDigital (SD) Cards
Higher Game Cartridge storage (up to 8GB announced)

Con-
No multitouch
No dual analog sticks
Small 3D viewing angle
Worse Ram (128MBRam and 4MB VRam)
Worse CPU (Dual 266MHz)
Worse GPU (Pica 200)
Lower resolution

PsVita only for me

PS Vita. I can't think of any pros or cons at the moment.

I dont understand any of the con's for the vita, Fingers block the view? Worse GPU? No Stylus? i'm sorry but what? am confused :(Jackopeng

Actually I'm lost too especially the GPU part xD.

I dont understand any of the con's for the vita, Fingers block the view? Worse GPU? No Stylus? i'm sorry but what? am confused :(Jackopeng

I dont understand any of the con's for the vita, Fingers block the view? Worse GPU? No Stylus? i'm sorry but what? am confused :(Jackopeng

I cant think of one pro for the 3DS.

3DS Cons;

Useless 3D display in just about every respect .

Crippled controls due to missing second analog stick.

Poorer than poor battery life.

Crappy games which include all the N64 3D rehashes , and Mario, and Zelda. It will become a low budget third party dumping ground like the Wii.

Kind of ugly

Way over-priced for the cheap low budget tech it offers compared to the Vita.

PS Vita is all Pros which are too numerous to list.

the vita will be stylus compatible..... and how does it have a worse gpu?stereointegrity

I cant think of one pro for the 3DS.

3DS Cons;

Useless 3D display in just about every respect .

Crippled controls due to missing second analog stick.

Poorer than poor battery life.

Crappy games which include all the N64 3D rehashes , and Mario, and Zelda. It will become a low budget third party dumping ground like the Wii.

Kind of ugly

Way over-priced for the cheap low budget tech it offers compared to the Vita.

PS Vita is all Pros which are too numerous to list.

Videodogg

I cant think of one pro for the 3DS.

3DS Cons;

Useless 3D display in just about every respect .

Crippled controls due to missing second analog stick.

Poorer than poor battery life.

Crappy games which include all the N64 3D rehashes , and Mario, and Zelda. It will become a low budget third party dumping ground like the Wii.

Kind of ugly

Way over-priced for the cheap low budget tech it offers compared to the Vita.

PS Vita is all Pros which are too numerous to list.

Videodogg

Like watered down PS3 ports right?

I don't hate any system, but all these 3DS haters are posting just for the sake of hating.

[QUOTE="Jackopeng"]I dont understand any of the con's for the vita, Fingers block the view? Worse GPU? No Stylus? i'm sorry but what? am confused :(riariases

[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

I cant think of one pro for the 3DS.

3DS Cons;

Useless 3D display in just about every respect .

Crippled controls due to missing second analog stick.

Poorer than poor battery life.

Crappy games which include all the N64 3D rehashes , and Mario, and Zelda. It will become a low budget third party dumping ground like the Wii.

Kind of ugly

Way over-priced for the cheap low budget tech it offers compared to the Vita.

PS Vita is all Pros which are too numerous to list.

93BlackHawk93

Like watered down PS3 ports right?

I don't hate any system, but all these 3DS haters are posting just for the sake of hating.

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]the vita will be stylus compatible..... and how does it have a worse gpu?riariases

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth

[QUOTE="riariases"][QUOTE="Jackopeng"]I dont understand any of the con's for the vita, Fingers block the view? Worse GPU? No Stylus? i'm sorry but what? am confused :(Jackopeng

Worse GPU (200MHz SGX543MP4+)

riariases

[QUOTE="riariases"]
Worse GPU (200MHz SGX543MP4+)

Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="riariases"]
Worse GPU (200MHz SGX543MP4+)

riariases

[QUOTE="Jackopeng"][QUOTE="riariases"] How? The Vita's GPU has a lower clockspeed than the 3DS's GPU and no special architecture (that has been announced atleast). It's 200MHz (Vita) vs 400MHz (3DS). But apparently Nintendo has capped the PICA 200 at 200MHz for the 3DS but can still be utilized. And the PSVita isn't compatible with a stylus. Most multitouch devices aren't, except for expensive business handhelds. Haven't you ever tried using a stylus on an iPhone/iPod Touch or an Android Phone? And when you're thumbs are stretched over the PSVita's touchscreen, it's obviously gonna be blocking off some of your view. Come on, how is any of that not fair?riariases

Worst GPU ? Vita has a quad core GPU with each core clocked at 200Mhz.

EDIT- Vita also doesn't use Memory Stick Pro Duos, it uses some sort ofproprietarymemory card similiar to SD cards.

[QUOTE="riariases"][QUOTE="Jackopeng"] Right first of all clockspeed doesnt matter that much unless both gpu's are similar, the Vita is using Nvidias tegra 2 chipset while the 3DS is using a Digital Media Professionals chipset, the tegra 2 is alot more powerful and allows the vita to do alot more and is alot more power efficient, i still dont get your point about your fingers getting in the way and you cant really make a claim on stylus compatibility until the vita is released.Jackopeng

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="riariases"]
Worse GPU (200MHz SGX543MP4+)

riariases

[QUOTE="Jackopeng"][QUOTE="riariases"] How? The Vita's GPU has a lower clockspeed than the 3DS's GPU and no special architecture (that has been announced atleast). It's 200MHz (Vita) vs 400MHz (3DS). But apparently Nintendo has capped the PICA 200 at 200MHz for the 3DS but can still be utilized. And the PSVita isn't compatible with a stylus. Most multitouch devices aren't, except for expensive business handhelds. Haven't you ever tried using a stylus on an iPhone/iPod Touch or an Android Phone? And when you're thumbs are stretched over the PSVita's touchscreen, it's obviously gonna be blocking off some of your view. Come on, how is any of that not fair?riariases

Oh my god. The ignorance is unbearable. Not only is the Vita's GPU quad core, the 3DS long before it's launch has been confirmed to be using a 200Mhz Pica chip. Not 400Mhz. That likely would have pushed hardware costs well past Nintendo's liking, let alone resulting in a 30minute battery life.

Besides, as said before the clockspeed of a CPU/GPU is one of the least important measurings of a CPU's power. Been proven since Intel's power hungry, hot, overclocked Pentium 4's still got smashed by the slower clocked Athlon CPUs that were competing with them.

I suggest you do your homework before posting another similar thread to this again.

[QUOTE="Jackopeng"][QUOTE="riariases"]Can you provide a source indicating how the PSVita has a superior GPU? Otherwise we're just going by clockspeed and by what we all know so far. But if you can tell us what the Fill Rate and the PPS of the SGX543MP4+ is then sure. And how can you not get it? But your thumbs on your monitor/screen. See how you can't see under your thumbs? I don't know about you but the rest of us don't have transparent limbs. Good for you though.riariases

Oh my god. The ignorance is unbearable. Not only is the Vita's GPU is quad core, the 3DS long before it's launch has been confirmed to be using a 200Mhz Pica chip. Not 400Mhz. That likely would have pushed hardware costs well past Nintendo's liking.

jasper061992

[QUOTE="riariases"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

That is most definitely not true.

sentrygman

Alright, so OLED screens are both good and bad. They offer more vivid colours and they also reduce battery usage because they offer internal lighting without the need for a backlight, but they also have a lower life expectancy. They die in approx. 5 years while LCD screens last up to approx. 15 years. but that 5 years means 5 years running, as in 1825 days, or 43 800 hours.riariases

So no real disadvantage? Which would explain why those screens are the very best in mobile phones?

Edit: Also, what about the GPUs? Providing specs are fine but it says nothing about actual performance... Try comparing equal Ati and Nvidia boards by specs alone...

Edit: Personally, I perceive the Vita to exceed DS3D in power by more than trivial margins. The psp was actually pretty amazing itself, just a shame it was killed off before being properly introduced.

[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

I cant think of one pro for the 3DS.

3DS Cons;

Useless 3D display in just about every respect .

Crippled controls due to missing second analog stick.

Poorer than poor battery life.

Crappy games which include all the N64 3D rehashes , and Mario, and Zelda. It will become a low budget third party dumping ground like the Wii.

Kind of ugly

Way over-priced for the cheap low budget tech it offers compared to the Vita.

PS Vita is all Pros which are too numerous to list.

93BlackHawk93

Like watered down PS3 ports right?

I don't hate any system, but all these 3DS haters are posting just for the sake of hating.

[QUOTE="Jackopeng"][QUOTE="riariases"]Can you provide a source indicating how the PSVita has a superior GPU? Otherwise we're just going by clockspeed and by what we all know so far. But if you can tell us what the Fill Rate and the PPS of the SGX543MP4+ is then sure. And how can you not get it? But your thumbs on your monitor/screen. See how you can't see under your thumbs? I don't know about you but the rest of us don't have transparent limbs. Good for you though.riariases

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6287063/sony-ngp-processor-performance

"At 200MHz core frequency an SGX543MP4 (four cores) will deliver 133 million polygons per second and fill rates in excess of 4Gpixels/sec."

[QUOTE="riariases"]Alright, so OLED screens are both good and bad. They offer more vivid colours and they also reduce battery usage because they offer internal lighting without the need for a backlight, but they also have a lower life expectancy. They die in approx. 5 years while LCD screens last up to approx. 15 years. but that 5 years means 5 years running, as in 1825 days, or 43 800 hours.Filthybastrd

So no real disadvantage? Which would explain why those screens are the very best in mobile phones?

Edit: Also, what about the GPUs? Providing specs are fine but it says nothing about actual performance... Try comparing equal Ati and Nvidia boards by specs alone...

[QUOTE="riariases"][QUOTE="Jackopeng"] Right first of all clockspeed doesnt matter that much unless both gpu's are similar, the Vita is using Nvidias tegra 2 chipset while the 3DS is using a Digital Media Professionals chipset, the tegra 2 is alot more powerful and allows the vita to do alot more and is alot more power efficient, i still dont get your point about your fingers getting in the way and you cant really make a claim on stylus compatibility until the vita is released.jasper061992

Oh my god. The ignorance is unbearable. Not only is the Vita's GPU quad core, the 3DS long before it's launch has been confirmed to be using a 200Mhz Pica chip. Not 400Mhz. That likely would have pushed hardware costs well past Nintendo's liking, let alone resulting in a 30minute battery life.

Besides, as said before the clockspeed of a CPU/GPU is one of the least important measurings of a CPU's power. Been proven since Intel's power hungry, hot, overclocked Pentium 4's still got smashed by the slower clocked Athlon CPUs that were competing with them.

I suggest you do your homework before posting another similar thread to this again.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="riariases"]Alright, so OLED screens are both good and bad. They offer more vivid colours and they also reduce battery usage because they offer internal lighting without the need for a backlight, but they also have a lower life expectancy. They die in approx. 5 years while LCD screens last up to approx. 15 years. but that 5 years means 5 years running, as in 1825 days, or 43 800 hours.sentrygman

So no real disadvantage? Which would explain why those screens are the very best in mobile phones?

Edit: Also, what about the GPUs? Providing specs are fine but it says nothing about actual performance... Try comparing equal Ati and Nvidia boards by specs alone...

Sorry, that's pretty much what I meant. Vita is obviously a superior piece of hardware.

[QUOTE="sentrygman"][QUOTE="riariases"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

That is most definitely not true.

riariases

You couldn't have simply looked it up yourself instead of spouting false so called facts and in the process, mouthing off to everyone that attemped to correct you when you were wrong? :roll:

[QUOTE="riariases"][QUOTE="Jackopeng"] Lololol fail sarcasm, didnt sony put a touchscreen on the back of the vita? And this is why casual trolls are a fail, clock speed doesnt matter thats like saying a ATI Radeon HD 5770 @ 4800mhz will beat a ATI Radeon HD 6770 @ 4200mhz.Jackopeng

[QUOTE="Jackopeng"][QUOTE="riariases"] No, Sony put a touchpad on the back of the Vita. It's like a large laptop mouse pad. and I'm comparing by clockspeed because i can't really find any indepth information on the Vita's GPU. No pipeline depth, PPI, fill rate, etc. If anyone can find that...riariases

[QUOTE="riariases"]

[QUOTE="sentrygman"] Come on, yes it is. I provided proof. You just made a statement based upon no facts and expect people to believe you.

jasper061992

You couldn't have simply looked it up yourself instead of spouting false so called facts and in the process, mouthing off to everyone that attemped to correct you when you were wrong? :roll:

[QUOTE="jasper061992"]

[QUOTE="riariases"]Can you provide a source indicating how the PSVita has a superior GPU? Otherwise we're just going by clockspeed and by what we all know so far. But if you can tell us what the Fill Rate and the PPS of the SGX543MP4+ is then sure. And how can you not get it? But your thumbs on your monitor/screen. See how you can't see under your thumbs? I don't know about you but the rest of us don't have transparent limbs. Good for you though.riariases

Oh my god. The ignorance is unbearable. Not only is the Vita's GPU quad core, the 3DS long before it's launch has been confirmed to be using a 200Mhz Pica chip. Not 400Mhz. That likely would have pushed hardware costs well past Nintendo's liking, let alone resulting in a 30minute battery life.

Besides, as said before the clockspeed of a CPU/GPU is one of the least important measurings of a CPU's power. Been proven since Intel's power hungry, hot, overclocked Pentium 4's still got smashed by the slower clocked Athlon CPUs that were competing with them.

I suggest you do your homework before posting another similar thread to this again.

I don't think you mentioned that before.

Sony certainly never revealed the CPU clockspeed yet. Where did you get this one from?

Alright, so OLED screens are both good and bad. They offer more vivid colours and they also reduce battery usage because they offer internal lighting without the need for a backlight, but they also have a lower life expectancy. They die in approx. 5 years while LCD screens last up to approx. 15 years. but that 5 years means 5 years running, as in 1825 days, or 43 800 hours.riariases

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I think the Vita's better, I mean.. w/o a doubt it's better hardware wise, but also it's got dual analog, so it can control better and, it looks like it has more interesting games. Also '3d', doesn't seem too useful...

[QUOTE="riariases"][QUOTE="Jackopeng"] I can still use the touchpad just like i can on the touchscreen...and your just being annoying now, go take a look at the tegra 2Jackopeng

This is getting annoying having to defend myself in a gaming forum. Honestly, you all need to step it down a notch. It's just video games. And I wasn't mouthing off to anyone. I was asked for a source of information. But no, you're right. Questioning is mouthing off.

riariases

The Vita doesn't use Memory Stick Duos.

[QUOTE="jasper061992"]

[QUOTE="riariases"] Might as well change it now. But thanks for actually giving a source instead of just saying whatever. riariases

You couldn't have simply looked it up yourself instead of spouting false so called facts and in the process, mouthing off to everyone that attemped to correct you when you were wrong? :roll:

When you were first called out for your errors in your first post in this thread, you could have rechecked what you wrote by looking on the internet, and corrected your post, but instead you chose to backlash at those that proved you wrong. Your right, I worded mouthing off wrong, you disregarded anyone that proved you wrong by bringing up the "show me the sauces!!" card. It's what ignorant people do. You could have spared this, but you ignored.

Now watch me as I am about to be accused of attacking him...:roll:

[QUOTE="Jackopeng"][QUOTE="riariases"]You're not going to be using the touchpad the same as the touchscreen. Do you use your mouse pad the same as you would if your monitor/screen was touchscreen? No.riariases

[QUOTE="riariases"]

[QUOTE="jasper061992"]

Oh my god. The ignorance is unbearable. Not only is the Vita's GPU quad core, the 3DS long before it's launch has been confirmed to be using a 200Mhz Pica chip. Not 400Mhz. That likely would have pushed hardware costs well past Nintendo's liking, let alone resulting in a 30minute battery life.

Besides, as said before the clockspeed of a CPU/GPU is one of the least important measurings of a CPU's power. Been proven since Intel's power hungry, hot, overclocked Pentium 4's still got smashed by the slower clocked Athlon CPUs that were competing with them.

I suggest you do your homework before posting another similar thread to this again.

jasper061992

I don't think you mentioned that before.

Sony certainly never revealed the CPU clockspeed yet. Where did you get this one from?

-9th post in the forum.

http://us.playstation.com/psvita/tech-specs/

Uses an ARM® Cortex™- A9 core (4 core). Capacity of 2GHz.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6287063/sony-ngp-processor-performance

But weren't you just saying how clockspeed doesn't matter?

[QUOTE="riariases"][QUOTE="Jackopeng"] Well yeah cause i what i do is i drag my finger across my monitor and the mouse cursor follows it :) I love how you changed the Vita con's to Uses Memory Stick Pro Duo and upto 4gb Memory...i'm sorry but gonna need a source on that because i thought sony had'nt confirmed they're new storage media yet?Jackopeng

[QUOTE="Jackopeng"][QUOTE="riariases"] There you go, 'bud'. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/292005/news/sony-ngp-storage-medium-detailed/ http://www.lazygamer.net/general-news/ngp-games-will-use-2gb-and-4gb-cards/riariases