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Bungie has been fine tuning difficulty for about a year now, do even have the slightest feeling that they would not address something like 4 player co-op?BansheesdieOh I know they have, I've also been looking at it the way I look at 2 player co-op, which was wrong. That's why in the thread title I self-owned myself.:P
4 player coop bad? Who cares? Frankly, I'm envisioning a lot of mayhem previously impossible with 4 pals running loose in the singleplayer levels. So Legendary will not be as legendarily harsh as it was (or will it be more harsh, ala halo 2)? Personally, I don't think that's the most important part.
Not to mention, Bungie probably will do some stuff to offset the inherent ease of co-op. What's to say they won't only increase enemy count and split ammo, but add even more tactical possibilities? You talk about characters specializing and being ready for all possibilities... isn't that the objective of most tactical teams? Adding alternate or modified requirements, or simply designing the levels so that you can uniquely take advantages of this could be awesome.
And if it's not, well, just limit the number of connections in your game to 2.
[QUOTE="samusarmada"]I remember beating the original halo on legendary was much, much harder on your own rather than in co-op in which it was more "heroic" standard. Who knows theymay knock up the enemy count for 4 player co-op or maybe they'll take away some of your marine chums.G013M
On the original halo Co-Op was simply "one of us stay away where its safe, while the other kamakizes into battle taking on as many as they can". Thanks to the inifite respawn, which was fixed in Halo 2 legendary.
Or you could just play to have fun, instead of powergaming in order to just get a "we won" badge.
[QUOTE="samusarmada"]I remember beating the original halo on legendary was much, much harder on your own rather than in co-op in which it was more "heroic" standard. Who knows theymay knock up the enemy count for 4 player co-op or maybe they'll take away some of your marine chums.G013M
On the original halo Co-Op was simply "one of us stay away where its safe, while the other kamakizes into battle taking on as many as they can". Thanks to the inifite respawn, which was fixed in Halo 2 legendary.
LOL that is what my friend and I did. We took turns on who ran in and unleashed hell...good times...[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]It hasn't been confirmed at all....Forza_2
It has. You can only play two people at a time on the same console, though.
By the way, just play the game on the harder difficulties when playing with 4 people. That wasn't hard now, was it ?
But with 4 people even lengendary would be a breeze :shock:[QUOTE="Forza_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]It hasn't been confirmed at all....silentobi
It has. You can only play two people at a time on the same console, though.
By the way, just play the game on the harder difficulties when playing with 4 people. That wasn't hard now, was it ?
But with 4 people even lengendary would be a breeze :shock:Legendary was always a breeze...
I hope Bungie ups the difficulty of Halo 3 by at least 3 times. Period.
[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]Legendary was always a breeze...
Forza_2
Nah, try to run and gun on Legendary and see what happens...
LOL I'm a Halo elitist. I can't even count how many times I've beaten Halo CE and Halo on legendary...
Probably over a 100 times each.
All I ask is for the difficulty to be upped because the previous installments are way too easy. And I'm not exaggerating.
Maybe keep the legendary difficulty the same for those n00bs that think it difficult, but I and other Halo elitists need a more challenging campaign. CHALLENGING.
I want it worse than Ninja Gaiden.
[QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="Forza_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]It hasn't been confirmed at all...._en1gma_
It has. You can only play two people at a time on the same console, though.
By the way, just play the game on the harder difficulties when playing with 4 people. That wasn't hard now, was it ?
But with 4 people even lengendary would be a breeze :shock:Legendary was always a breeze...
I hope Bungie ups the difficulty of Halo 3 by at least 3 times. Period.
For you maybe it took me 6 hours to pass Cairo Station on lengendary.[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]LOL I'm a Halo elitist. I can't even count how many times I've beaten Halo CE and Halo on legendary...
Forza_2
I never tried Legendary on Halo, but on Halo 2 it's not easy at all. If you try to rambo your way through you're dead.
Dude trust me you dont need to tell me how to play Halo.
Sure, a lot of casuals find Halo CE and Halo 2 difficult games on legendary, but all I ask is for Bungie to...maybe...add a higher difficulty than legendary...
Because it really is too easy to be called legendary.
It need to be like Insane mode on gears of war. Or MGS2 sons of liberty they have a mode were if your caught once the game ends. Im trying to beat it like that and get all the dog tags. Its so freaking hard.Killfox
Insane on GeOW was a breeze as well lol.
Ninja Gaiden on Master Ninja level Halo-style FTW ! :)
I never tried that in MGS2, so i dunno. :D
[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]True, but you got to admit that Cairo station lengendary was harder than any other Halo 2 mission on legendaryFor you maybe it took me 6 hours to pass Cairo Station on lengendary.silentobi
All you have to do is combo it up and use stickies.
I dont really think so. The ones with the covenant snipers were the only ones fairly challening, IMO
But Cairo will eat you up if you don't know what to do :)
[QUOTE="Killfox"]It need to be like Insane mode on gears of war. Or MGS2 sons of liberty they have a mode were if your caught once the game ends. Im trying to beat it like that and get all the dog tags. Its so freaking hard._en1gma_
Insane on GeOW was a breeze as well lol.
Ninja Gaiden on Master Ninja level Halo-style FTW ! :)
I never tried that in MGS2, so i dunno. :D
Now that I can agree on. But I never found Ninja Gaiden to be Hard (weird huh :?)[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]Dude trust me you dont need to tell me how to play Halo.
Forza_2
Trust you ? I have the game. I'm pretty sure you can't go rambo on a bunch of enemies and live.
Sure you cant rambo a bunch of enemies and live, but that doesnt make the game difficult. Gears of War is the same way
[QUOTE="Forza_2"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]LOL I'm a Halo elitist. I can't even count how many times I've beaten Halo CE and Halo on legendary...
_en1gma_
I never tried Legendary on Halo, but on Halo 2 it's not easy at all. If you try to rambo your way through you're dead.
Dude trust me you dont need to tell me how to play Halo.
Sure, a lot of casuals find Halo CE and Halo 2 difficult games on legendary, but all I ask is for Bungie to...maybe...add a higher difficulty than legendary...
Because it really is too easy to be called legendary.
Have you beat the Mythic Skull difficulty for Halo 2, only than can you be called a Halo elitist....and be on my level.:D
Also, the Thunderstorm Skull can be a good challenge also.
[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Killfox"]It need to be like Insane mode on gears of war. Or MGS2 sons of liberty they have a mode were if your caught once the game ends. Im trying to beat it like that and get all the dog tags. Its so freaking hard.silentobi
Insane on GeOW was a breeze as well lol.
Ninja Gaiden on Master Ninja level Halo-style FTW ! :)
I never tried that in MGS2, so i dunno. :D
Now that I can agree on. But I never found Ninja Gaiden to be Hard (weird huh :?)Have you tried Master Ninja? i was crying it was so hard lol
[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Forza_2"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]LOL I'm a Halo elitist. I can't even count how many times I've beaten Halo CE and Halo on legendary...
Spartan070
I never tried Legendary on Halo, but on Halo 2 it's not easy at all. If you try to rambo your way through you're dead.
Dude trust me you dont need to tell me how to play Halo.
Sure, a lot of casuals find Halo CE and Halo 2 difficult games on legendary, but all I ask is for Bungie to...maybe...add a higher difficulty than legendary...
Because it really is too easy to be called legendary.
Have you beat the Mythic Skull difficulty for Halo 2, only than can you be called a Halo elitist....and be on my level.:D
Also, the Thunderstorm Skull can be a good challenge also.
Me and my friend actually went through the game on legendary and picked up every skull on the way but the blind one and then played through again with them activated. :P the game gets pretty messed up lol.
Have you gotten the IWHBYD skull? that's a **** to get :P
For you maybe it took me 6 hours to pass Cairo Station on lengendary._en1gma_
All you have to do is combo it up and use stickies.
Hmm...having beaten Halo 2 SP Legendary numerous times, plus beating the 3x as hard Mythic Skull Difficulty, even I say that it takes patience and determination. You can't just "combo it up and use stickies," that will get you dead real quick. Manuverability is the most important aspect imo.
Anyway, I'm not the least bit doubting you, but when you make it sound like it's a breeze, it's extremely difficult to take you seriously.
Have you gotten the IWHBYD skull? that's a **** to get :P
_en1gma_
No but the Blind Skull was the first one I got.:P
[QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Killfox"]It need to be like Insane mode on gears of war. Or MGS2 sons of liberty they have a mode were if your caught once the game ends. Im trying to beat it like that and get all the dog tags. Its so freaking hard._en1gma_
Insane on GeOW was a breeze as well lol.
Ninja Gaiden on Master Ninja level Halo-style FTW ! :)
I never tried that in MGS2, so i dunno. :D
Now that I can agree on. But I never found Ninja Gaiden to be Hard (weird huh :?)Have you tried Master Ninja? i was crying it was so hard lol
We're talking NGB right.On the Mission Mode it's hard but you need patience and alot of luck :P And I didn't dare try the single player on hard :oops:[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]Have you gotten the IWHBYD skull? that's a **** to get :P
Spartan070
No but the Blind Skull was the first one I got.:P
i hate that one lol.
look up the IWHBYD skull and try to get it...it's funny...it adds new funny dialogue to all the characters. 8)
Well, the reason that it's going to suck is basically everything you said about it being stupid and too easy, but also because who in the world is gonna have 3 other people to permanently play it with whenever they want? People with *busy* parents, but even then, one or more may not be into video games/shooters/Halo, and the only other scenario is people sharing a house with others/friends, and again, some may not do video games, so it's immensely impractical, and a waste of Bungies time, when they could be making the abysmal graphics of the Beta online better.
So to sum up, yes, stupid idea.
Well, the reason that it's going to suck is basically everything you said about it being stupid and too easy, but also because who in the world is gonna have 3 other people to permanently play it with whenever they want? People with *busy* parents, but even then, one or more may not be into video games/shooters/Halo, and the only other scenario is people sharing a house with others/friends, and again, some may not do video games, so it's immensely impractical, and a waste of Bungies time, when they could be making the abysmal graphics of the Beta online better.
So to sum up, yes, stupid idea.
ShmenonPie
There's this little invention called Xbox Live. It's pretty cool; you should check it out.
Well, the reason that it's going to suck is basically everything you said about it being stupid and too easy, but also because who in the world is gonna have 3 other people to permanently play it with whenever they want? People with *busy* parents, but even then, one or more may not be into video games/shooters/Halo, and the only other scenario is people sharing a house with others/friends, and again, some may not do video games, so it's immensely impractical, and a waste of Bungies time, when they could be making the abysmal graphics of the Beta online better.
So to sum up, yes, stupid idea.
ShmenonPie
It's a stupid idea because you have no one to play with? :|
The idea of putting a 4-player co-op mode in it is one of the best moves Bungie could make. And no, it will not be very easy... With their knowledge they will certainly create a game which is not easy to beat, even with 4 players.
Only game which comes to mind is X-Men Legends, which is not something to compare it to, but it wasn't that easy to beat even with four human players. So it proves that it's possible and I have faith on its development
Speaking of skulls, the one which made the grunts explode like they'd been stuck with a grenade every time you shoot them was the most genius thing bungie has ever done. :PNinja-Vox
mix that with the one that makes melee and explosions powerful and it is even better :D
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