4+ Co-op Really Bad Idea For Halo???(nevermind, minor self-ownage)

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#51 NAPK1NS
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Ususally when you play with more people in a co-op game, the enemy density is turned up a bit. I know a few games that do that, Bungie is smart enough to add it.
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#52 Bansheesdie
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Bungie has been fine tuning difficulty for about a year now, do even have the slightest feeling that they would not address something like 4 player co-op?
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#53 Michael85
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4-player co-op is going to ****ing own.
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#54 Spartan070
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Bungie has been fine tuning difficulty for about a year now, do even have the slightest feeling that they would not address something like 4 player co-op?Bansheesdie
Oh I know they have, I've also been looking at it the way I look at 2 player co-op, which was wrong. That's why in the thread title I self-owned myself.:P
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#55 Grive
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4 player coop bad? Who cares? Frankly, I'm envisioning a lot of mayhem previously impossible with 4 pals running loose in the singleplayer levels. So Legendary will not be as legendarily harsh as it was (or will it be more harsh, ala halo 2)? Personally, I don't think that's the most important part.

Not to mention, Bungie probably will do some stuff to offset the inherent ease of co-op. What's to say they won't only increase enemy count and split ammo, but add even more tactical possibilities? You talk about characters specializing and being ready for all possibilities... isn't that the objective of most tactical teams? Adding alternate or modified requirements, or simply designing the levels so that you can uniquely take advantages of this could be awesome.

And if it's not, well, just limit the number of connections in your game to 2.

[QUOTE="samusarmada"]I remember beating the original halo on legendary was much, much harder on your own rather than in co-op in which it was more "heroic" standard. Who knows theymay knock up the enemy count for 4 player co-op or maybe they'll take away some of your marine chums.G013M

On the original halo Co-Op was simply "one of us stay away where its safe, while the other kamakizes into battle taking on as many as they can". Thanks to the inifite respawn, which was fixed in Halo 2 legendary.

Or you could just play to have fun, instead of powergaming in order to just get a "we won" badge.

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#56 dgroundwater
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If you play on legendary I'm sure it will be a challenge regardless of how many people are in your party.
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#57 waynehead895
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I always thought legendary was easier by myself than with a partner. But it was more fun with a partner.
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#59 _en1gma_
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The game will be easy no matter what.
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#60 Snowboarder99
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[QUOTE="samusarmada"]I remember beating the original halo on legendary was much, much harder on your own rather than in co-op in which it was more "heroic" standard. Who knows theymay knock up the enemy count for 4 player co-op or maybe they'll take away some of your marine chums.G013M

On the original halo Co-Op was simply "one of us stay away where its safe, while the other kamakizes into battle taking on as many as they can". Thanks to the inifite respawn, which was fixed in Halo 2 legendary.

LOL that is what my friend and I did.  We took turns on who ran in and unleashed hell...good times...
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#61 Forza_2
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It hasn't been confirmed at all....Ninja-Vox

It has. You can only play two people at a time on the same console, though.

By the way, just play the game on the harder difficulties when playing with 4 people. That wasn't hard now, was it ?

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#62 silentobi
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They should have a diffulculty option designed around4 player co-op.
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#63 silentobi
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]It hasn't been confirmed at all....Forza_2

It has. You can only play two people at a time on the same console, though.

By the way, just play the game on the harder difficulties when playing with 4 people. That wasn't hard now, was it ?

But with 4 people even lengendary would be a breeze :shock:
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#64 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="Forza_2"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]It hasn't been confirmed at all....silentobi

It has. You can only play two people at a time on the same console, though.

By the way, just play the game on the harder difficulties when playing with 4 people. That wasn't hard now, was it ?

But with 4 people even lengendary would be a breeze :shock:

Legendary was always a breeze...

I hope Bungie ups the difficulty of Halo 3 by at least 3 times. Period.

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#65 Forza_2
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Legendary was always a breeze...

_en1gma_

Nah, try to run and gun on Legendary and see what happens...

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#66 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

Legendary was always a breeze...

Forza_2

Nah, try to run and gun on Legendary and see what happens...

LOL I'm a Halo elitist. I can't even count how many times I've beaten Halo CE and Halo on legendary...

Probably over a 100 times each.

All I ask is for the difficulty to be upped because the previous installments are way too easy. And I'm not exaggerating.

Maybe keep the legendary difficulty the same for those n00bs that think it difficult, but I and other Halo elitists need a more challenging campaign. CHALLENGING.

I want it worse than Ninja Gaiden.

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#67 evilbarbarian
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It will be easier with 4 players. If you don't like it, don't play it. Just pretend it was never there.
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#68 silentobi
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[QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="Forza_2"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]It hasn't been confirmed at all...._en1gma_

It has. You can only play two people at a time on the same console, though.

By the way, just play the game on the harder difficulties when playing with 4 people. That wasn't hard now, was it ?

But with 4 people even lengendary would be a breeze :shock:

Legendary was always a breeze...

I hope Bungie ups the difficulty of Halo 3 by at least 3 times. Period.

For you maybe it took me 6 hours to pass Cairo Station on lengendary.
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#69 Forza_2
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LOL I'm a Halo elitist. I can't even count how many times I've beaten Halo CE and Halo on legendary...

_en1gma_

I never tried Legendary on Halo, but on Halo 2 it's not easy at all. If you try to rambo your way through you're dead.

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#70 Killfox
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I dont know. It sounds interesting none the less but i dont know how its going to work. Playing gears of war in co op made the game pretty easy. Hopefully they can tweak the game some what to make it harder.
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#71 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

LOL I'm a Halo elitist. I can't even count how many times I've beaten Halo CE and Halo on legendary...

Forza_2

I never tried Legendary on Halo, but on Halo 2 it's not easy at all. If you try to rambo your way through you're dead.

Dude trust me you dont need to tell me how to play Halo.

Sure, a lot of casuals find Halo CE and Halo 2 difficult games on legendary, but all I ask is for Bungie to...maybe...add a higher difficulty than legendary...

Because it really is too easy to be called legendary.

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#72 _en1gma_
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For you maybe it took me 6 hours to pass Cairo Station on lengendary.

All you have to do is combo it up and use stickies.

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#73 Killfox
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It need to be like Insane mode on gears of war. Or MGS2 sons of liberty they have a mode were if your caught once the game ends. Im trying to beat it like that and get all the dog tags. Its so freaking hard.
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#74 Forza_2
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Dude trust me you dont need to tell me how to play Halo.

_en1gma_

Trust you ? I have the game. I'm pretty sure you can't go rambo on a bunch of enemies and live.

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#75 silentobi
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For you maybe it took me 6 hours to pass Cairo Station on lengendary._en1gma_

All you have to do is combo it up and use stickies.

True, but you got to admit that Cairo station lengendary was harder than any other Halo 2 mission on legendary
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#76 Forza_2
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It need to be like Insane mode on gears of war. Killfox

Insane was not so hard.

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It need to be like Insane mode on gears of war. Or MGS2 sons of liberty they have a mode were if your caught once the game ends. Im trying to beat it like that and get all the dog tags. Its so freaking hard.Killfox

Insane on GeOW was a breeze as well lol.

Ninja Gaiden on Master Ninja level Halo-style FTW ! :)

I never tried that in MGS2, so i dunno. :D

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#78 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

For you maybe it took me 6 hours to pass Cairo Station on lengendary.silentobi

All you have to do is combo it up and use stickies.

True, but you got to admit that Cairo station lengendary was harder than any other Halo 2 mission on legendary

I dont really think so. The ones with the covenant snipers were the only ones fairly challening, IMO

But Cairo will eat you up if you don't know what to do :)

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#79 silentobi
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[QUOTE="Killfox"]It need to be like Insane mode on gears of war. Or MGS2 sons of liberty they have a mode were if your caught once the game ends. Im trying to beat it like that and get all the dog tags. Its so freaking hard._en1gma_

Insane on GeOW was a breeze as well lol.

Ninja Gaiden on Master Ninja level Halo-style FTW ! :)

I never tried that in MGS2, so i dunno. :D

Now that I can agree on. But I never found Ninja Gaiden to be Hard (weird huh :?)
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#80 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

Dude trust me you dont need to tell me how to play Halo.

Forza_2

Trust you ? I have the game. I'm pretty sure you can't go rambo on a bunch of enemies and live.


I have 10,000+ hours logged on Halo CE and Halo 2. I dont need your commentaries on the game :)

Sure you cant rambo a bunch of enemies and live, but that doesnt make the game difficult. Gears of War is the same way

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#81 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Forza_2"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

LOL I'm a Halo elitist. I can't even count how many times I've beaten Halo CE and Halo on legendary...

_en1gma_

I never tried Legendary on Halo, but on Halo 2 it's not easy at all. If you try to rambo your way through you're dead.

Dude trust me you dont need to tell me how to play Halo.

Sure, a lot of casuals find Halo CE and Halo 2 difficult games on legendary, but all I ask is for Bungie to...maybe...add a higher difficulty than legendary...

Because it really is too easy to be called legendary.

Have you beat the Mythic Skull difficulty for Halo 2, only than can you be called a Halo elitist....and be on my level.:D

Also, the Thunderstorm Skull can be a good challenge also.

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#82 Forza_2
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Now that I can agree on. But I never found Ninja Gaiden to be Hard (weird huh :?) silentobi

I have Ninja Gaiden and if you know what to do it's not so hard. It's just time consuming.

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#83 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="Killfox"]It need to be like Insane mode on gears of war. Or MGS2 sons of liberty they have a mode were if your caught once the game ends. Im trying to beat it like that and get all the dog tags. Its so freaking hard.silentobi

Insane on GeOW was a breeze as well lol.

Ninja Gaiden on Master Ninja level Halo-style FTW ! :)

I never tried that in MGS2, so i dunno. :D

Now that I can agree on. But I never found Ninja Gaiden to be Hard (weird huh :?)

Have you tried Master Ninja? i was crying it was so hard lol

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#84 Forza_2
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Sure you cant rambo a bunch of enemies and live, but that doesnt make the game difficult. Gears of War is the same way

_en1gma_

I never said it's difficult now, did I ? I said it's not easy. Try reading what I write.

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#85 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Forza_2"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

LOL I'm a Halo elitist. I can't even count how many times I've beaten Halo CE and Halo on legendary...

Spartan070

I never tried Legendary on Halo, but on Halo 2 it's not easy at all. If you try to rambo your way through you're dead.

Dude trust me you dont need to tell me how to play Halo.

Sure, a lot of casuals find Halo CE and Halo 2 difficult games on legendary, but all I ask is for Bungie to...maybe...add a higher difficulty than legendary...

Because it really is too easy to be called legendary.

Have you beat the Mythic Skull difficulty for Halo 2, only than can you be called a Halo elitist....and be on my level.:D

Also, the Thunderstorm Skull can be a good challenge also.

Me and my friend actually went through the game on legendary and picked up every skull on the way but the blind one and then played through again with them activated. :P the game gets pretty messed up lol.

Have you gotten the IWHBYD skull? that's a **** to get :P

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#86 Spartan070
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For you maybe it took me 6 hours to pass Cairo Station on lengendary._en1gma_

All you have to do is combo it up and use stickies.

Hmm...having beaten Halo 2 SP Legendary numerous times, plus beating the 3x as hard Mythic Skull Difficulty, even I say that it takes patience and determination. You can't just "combo it up and use stickies," that will get you dead real quick. Manuverability is the most important aspect imo.

Anyway, I'm not the least bit doubting you, but when you make it sound like it's a breeze, it's extremely difficult to take you seriously.

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#87 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

Sure you cant rambo a bunch of enemies and live, but that doesnt make the game difficult. Gears of War is the same way

Forza_2

I never said it's difficult now, did I ? I said it's not easy. Try reading what I write.

ok but it's still easy...

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#88 Spartan070
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Have you gotten the IWHBYD skull? that's a **** to get :P

_en1gma_

No but the Blind Skull was the first one I got.:P

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#89 silentobi
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[QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="Killfox"]It need to be like Insane mode on gears of war. Or MGS2 sons of liberty they have a mode were if your caught once the game ends. Im trying to beat it like that and get all the dog tags. Its so freaking hard._en1gma_

Insane on GeOW was a breeze as well lol.

Ninja Gaiden on Master Ninja level Halo-style FTW ! :)

I never tried that in MGS2, so i dunno. :D

Now that I can agree on. But I never found Ninja Gaiden to be Hard (weird huh :?)

Have you tried Master Ninja? i was crying it was so hard lol

We're talking NGB right.On the Mission Mode it's hard but you need patience and alot of luck :P And I didn't dare try the single player on hard :oops:
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#90 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

Have you gotten the IWHBYD skull? that's a **** to get :P

Spartan070

No but the Blind Skull was the first one I got.:P

i hate that one lol.

look up the IWHBYD skull and try to get it...it's funny...it adds new funny dialogue to all the characters. 8)

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#91 _en1gma_
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We're talking NGB right.On the Mission Mode it's hard but you need patience and alot of luck :P And I didn't dare try the single player on hard :oops:

ah well try it on hard. :)

i did and lets just say it didnt work out for a lot of the game :P

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#92 ShmenonPie
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Well, the reason that it's going to suck is basically everything you said about it being stupid and too easy, but also because who in the world is gonna have 3 other people to permanently play it with whenever they want? People with *busy* parents, but even then, one or more may not be into video games/shooters/Halo, and the only other scenario is people sharing a house with others/friends, and again, some may not do video games, so it's immensely impractical, and a waste of Bungies time, when they could be making the abysmal graphics of the Beta online better.

So to sum up, yes, stupid idea.

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#93 deactivated-600fd0017f1ba
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I welcome it, I think it will increase the the longevity of the campaign, meaning how many time I play through it...
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#94 Michael85
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Well, the reason that it's going to suck is basically everything you said about it being stupid and too easy, but also because who in the world is gonna have 3 other people to permanently play it with whenever they want? People with *busy* parents, but even then, one or more may not be into video games/shooters/Halo, and the only other scenario is people sharing a house with others/friends, and again, some may not do video games, so it's immensely impractical, and a waste of Bungies time, when they could be making the abysmal graphics of the Beta online better.

So to sum up, yes, stupid idea.

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Well, the reason that it's going to suck is basically everything you said about it being stupid and too easy, but also because who in the world is gonna have 3 other people to permanently play it with whenever they want? People with *busy* parents, but even then, one or more may not be into video games/shooters/Halo, and the only other scenario is people sharing a house with others/friends, and again, some may not do video games, so it's immensely impractical, and a waste of Bungies time, when they could be making the abysmal graphics of the Beta online better.

So to sum up, yes, stupid idea.

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It's a stupid idea because you have no one to play with? :|

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#96 Lance_C
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The idea of putting a 4-player co-op mode in it is one of the best moves Bungie could make. And no, it will not be very easy... With their knowledge they will certainly create a game which is not easy to beat, even with 4 players.

Only game which comes to mind is X-Men Legends, which is not something to compare it to, but it wasn't that easy to beat even with four human players. So it proves that it's possible and I have faith on its development

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#97 Ninja-Vox
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Speaking of skulls, the one which made the grunts explode like they'd been stuck with a grenade every time you shoot them was the most genius thing bungie has ever done. :P
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#98 solidgamer
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it will work when a group of friends do it dw bungie know what they are doing
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#99 _en1gma_
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Speaking of skulls, the one which made the grunts explode like they'd been stuck with a grenade every time you shoot them was the most genius thing bungie has ever done. :PNinja-Vox

mix that with the one that makes melee and explosions powerful and it is even better :D

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#100 Magical_Zebra
Member since 2003 • 7960 Posts

I always thought legendary was easier by myself than with a partner. But it was more fun with a partner.waynehead895

Lol, you cant be serious? I dont care who you are, your not just gonna waltz through that game alone on legendary like its nothing. :lol: