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[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

When so many poorly rated, poorly playing games are so horrendously popular over there, yeah - most people don't have much trouble making blanket statements about their tastes in gaming.

Why is it that you think the Japanese gaming big wigs opened up TGS this year not with bragging about the wonderful state of gaming over there, but endlessly complaining about the state of gaming over there?

Fawlcon_Pawnch

Japanes's state of gaming has nothing to do with their "horrible taste in games" or "horrible popular franchises".

The problem with Japan is implementing high end technology into their games.

HD high cost development was a pretty hard hit on Japan's gaming industry.

US has alot less problems in this department because of the movie industry, many SFX houses work in the gaming industry and vice versa, the SFX market and state of the art tech is more developed and cheap than in Japan.

Nope. Otherwise, there wouldn't be so many popular Canadian and European gaming studios. The biggest game this generation was made by a studio based in Scotland, the most graphically advanced game this generation was made by studio based in Germany, and look at companies like BioWare.

Japan is beginning to cater to a market that prefers these types of games, that is the problem - the studio big wigs know this. They know that market might be popular now, but such a popularity is fleeting. A stagnant market can't stay financially successfull forever - that is precisely why Capcom is starting to concentrate more and more on the Western markets, as are other Japanese gaming companies.

[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

When so many poorly rated, poorly playing games are so horrendously popular over there, yeah - most people don't have much trouble making blanket statements about their tastes in gaming.

Why is it that you think the Japanese gaming big wigs opened up TGS this year not with bragging about the wonderful state of gaming over there, but endlessly complaining about the state of gaming over there?

RuprechtMonkey

Japanes's state of gaming has nothing to do with their "horrible taste in games" or "horrible popular franchises".

The problem with Japan is implementing high end technology into their games.

HD high cost development was a pretty hard hit on Japan's gaming industry.

US has alot less problems in this department because of the movie industry, many SFX houses work in the gaming industry and vice versa, the SFX market and state of the art tech is more developed and cheap than in Japan.

Nope. Otherwise, there would'nt be so may popular Canadian and European gaming studios. The biggest game this generation was made by a studio based in Scotland, the most graphically advanced game this generation was made by studio based in Germany, and look at companies like BioWare.

Japan is beginning to cater to a market that prefers these types of games, that is the problem - the studio big wigs know this. They know that market might be popular now, but such a popularity is fleeting. A stagnant market can't stay financially successfull forever - that is precisely why Capcom is starting to concentrate more and more on the Western markets, as are other Japanese gaming companies.

Dude, this isnt really a matter of opinion.

What i wrote was what i heard Japanese developers say, i'd say they know better then us

Why do they love Monster Hunter so much?Wasdie

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

Ok people, if you want to criticcize Monster Hunter at least learn what its about befor posting ignorant stuff like:

VendettaRed07

right after you find out what a good game is.

Monster Hunter 5.7

Monster Hunger Freedom 5.7

Monster Hunter 2 - 6.5

Hey people lets get in a 4 hour line for another CRAPPY game!!!

Japanese have the worst taste in games, no wonder they're market is dieing.

I bought the first one and it was terrible, like i cant believe how popular it is.

Monster Hunter 3 is different from the first one. They revamped the entire system so that it matches more to the PSP games, which are said to play a lot better than the first console versions.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

When so many poorly rated, poorly playing games are so horrendously popular over there, yeah - most people don't have much trouble making blanket statements about their tastes in gaming.

Why is it that you think the Japanese gaming big wigs opened up TGS this year not with bragging about the wonderful state of gaming over there, but endlessly complaining about the state of gaming over there?

Fawlcon_Pawnch

Japanes's state of gaming has nothing to do with their "horrible taste in games" or "horrible popular franchises".

The problem with Japan is implementing high end technology into their games.

HD high cost development was a pretty hard hit on Japan's gaming industry.

US has alot less problems in this department because of the movie industry, many SFX houses work in the gaming industry and vice versa, the SFX market and state of the art tech is more developed and cheap than in Japan.

Nope. Otherwise, there would'nt be so may popular Canadian and European gaming studios. The biggest game this generation was made by a studio based in Scotland, the most graphically advanced game this generation was made by studio based in Germany, and look at companies like BioWare.

Japan is beginning to cater to a market that prefers these types of games, that is the problem - the studio big wigs know this. They know that market might be popular now, but such a popularity is fleeting. A stagnant market can't stay financially successfull forever - that is precisely why Capcom is starting to concentrate more and more on the Western markets, as are other Japanese gaming companies.

Dude, this isnt really a matter of opinion.

What i wrote was what i heard Japanese developers say, i'd say they know better then us

But if that were the sole reason, how could my first paragraph possibly be true?

But if that were the sole reason, how could my first paragraph possibly be true?

RuprechtMonkey

Because its not really about not having money to spend. Yes theres Ubisoft and other successfull companies but they dont operate like Japanese studios do.

Most of these European houses work with US companies and/or draw alot of their tech from them, like the Unreal engine.

Japan still makes their games the traditional way, they dont want to spend millions of dollars in advance or increase their teams by 300% so they can crank out games faster. Just look at Squaresoft, once one of the biggest third party powerhouses that now is struggling to release any of their usual epic games.

Japanese studios like to do things their way and build everything themselves, because of this, the HD consoles have been a nightmare to them

Funny, because I could swear that those "expensive HD consoles" are the consoles with the greatest number of great games, despite having the least sales And the PC, with the most expensive hardware and most technically demanding HD games, beats them all. For the first time EVER, in the history of the industry, the console that is selling by far the most has the least overall number of great games. A huge portion of this new demographic simply doesn't want the type of traditonal game that traditional gamers would consider "great," and as such games aren't being made for those "dinosaurs." The Wii is selling more than the PS2 did, yet it can barely keep up with the number of good games that the GC had. Imagine if the PS2 had sold MORE than it did (more than 120 million) but actually had less good games than either the XBox or the GC had. That is the state of the industry we're in now, we're seeing a shift in the gaming demographic and as such the types of games being made. This trend is far more exaggerated in Japan than it is in NA and Europe. The industry heads realize this, it's causing stagnation. That's why they gave the speaches they did.

RuprechtMonkey

It would have been so much better if it were for a current gen (tech wise) console.

I'd have loved to see the monsters/dragons in HD with more polygons in one dragon than all of SSBB :P

But alas. That won't happen. And the games still won't have any online to boast about. :/

"HEY 3226078286231! Get over here! You too 6218231752925! I need some help!" lol.
0rin

It is for a current gen console.

nintendo wasnt even there and the wii had the best showing and didnt even try. no more heroes 2was clearly the biggest announcement there. Rahnyc4

What?

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]...why?RuprechtMonkey

We're just as bad as them really, they love JRPG's and this kind of stuff that we see as samey and every single one just has the same mechanics as the other, they probably think the same with us and shooters, how can so many people like them when they are pretty much all the same. Just culture differences really.

The difference is the shooters that are popular here and in Europe are very highly rated, they're not bad games. Halo 3, COD4, Crysis, HL and CS for FPS, and Gears on the third person side.

So many hugely popular games there are genuinely bad games. Monster Hunter is terrible, just terrible. FF I can understand being popular over there, those are good games. That's not the case for everything over there.

So what about popular crap games in the EU and the US? We are looking at their crap games, why not look at ours?

For that game i rather wait for FF XIIInaruto7777

You are waiting, except it's not a 4 hour wait, but probably a 9 month and probably longer wait.

they all look the same lol :P

with me, i dont wait in lines, i will either go to the shortest available, or leave all together.

Sheep like Monster Hunter now.Ragnarok1051

And cows don't like Monster Hunter now.

Funny how that works.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Why do they love Monster Hunter so much?murat8

After seeing the trailer to monster hunter 3 the underwater level caught my attention and the dragons look cool

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]Sheep like Monster Hunter now.AlexSays

And cows don't like Monster Hunter now.

Funny how that works.

Yeah, cos Monster Hunter was always quoted alongside FF, MGS and Tekken as a keystone of the PS brand :roll:

On topic: Monster Hunter sucks. I played on PS2, it didn't do anything for me.

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]Sheep like Monster Hunter now.locopatho

And cows don't like Monster Hunter now.

Funny how that works.

Yeah, cos Monster Hunter was always quoted alongside FF, MGS and Tekken as a keystone of the PS brand :roll:

On topic: Monster Hunter sucks. I played on PS2, it didn't do anything for me.

And once again, Monster Hunter 3 is different from the previous Monster Hunter games that came out on the PS2. Capcom revamped the system and are building it from the ground up for the Wii. It'll resemble the Monster Hunter games on the PSP more than the ones on the PS2.

lol Sheep are over hyping MH3. Nobody here hyped MH like that. The only place this game really gets positive reception at is in Japan.

Also this game was NEVER compared to MGS,FF,and Tekken

Sheep like Monster Hunter now.Ragnarok1051

20000th post. >_>

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]Wii won TGS... surprisingly :|DireToad

No because there was more Wii games at the event than any other console

lol Sheep are over hyping MH3. Nobody here hyped MH like that. The only place this game really gets positive reception at is in Japan.

Also this game was NEVER compared to MGS,FF,and Tekken

DeadSpaceXIII

I play it on my PSP is there no reason I could not want to play it on my Wii?

So it's an action RPG?DireToad

lol Sheep are over hyping MH3. Nobody here hyped MH like that. The only place this game really gets positive reception at is in Japan.

Also this game was NEVER compared to MGS,FF,and Tekken

DeadSpaceXIII

The industry seems to be hyping MH3 too. You should go full out and call them sheep aswell

And once again, Monster Hunter 3 is different from the previous Monster Hunter games that came out on the PS2. Capcom revamped the system and are building it from the ground up for the Wii. It'll resemble the Monster Hunter games on the PSP more than the ones on the PS2.

Zhengi

Well every developer says their sequel is all new and exciting. Monster Hunter has been pretty crap til now. If the new one is randomly good, than fine. I wouldn't hype it though.

Another exclusive Sony lost this year. Look at the bright side at least it was not the 360 this time stealing it.Eltroz

Ugh, no wonder why so many Japanese gaming bigwigs, for the first time ever, were talking about how gaming in Japan was in such poor shape. Usually it's an endless bragging fest, when they do stuff like that you know something is seriously off.

The biggest, most popular titles in Japan are so often truly mediocre as of late. Monster Hunster is a completely mediocre series.

RuprechtMonkey

Monster Hunter is a great online game last time I played it...

I played it for about a month it was really fun. But the singleplayer was awful.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Another exclusive Sony lost this year. Look at the bright side at least it was not the 360 this time stealing it.nintendofreak_2

Edit- Ya I see the where I said this year. I know though it has been awhile.

[QUOTE="DireToad"]So it's an action RPG?nintendofreak_2

Actually it does have quests. 250+ I believe :P

Another exclusive Sony lost this year. Look at the bright side at least it was not the 360 this time stealing it.Eltroz

Actually Wii stole it and made it a Wii exclusive. Double Win!

Actually it does have quests. 250+ I believe :P

scar-hawk

Wow why would you waste 4 hours to play that?cs45F