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#1 Wuxsvan
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http://www.gamer.tm/news.asp?id=1700

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#2 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Pfft

and

http://www.gamer.tm/news.asp?id=1700

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#3 The_Crucible
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"No actual numbers have been released" but they'll take a stab at it. Nice.

Tell me when this is real news. Thank you.

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Pfft

and

http://www.gamer.tm/news.asp?id=1700

Jandurin

Obviously still better than M$ 100% defective hardware rate. And this only affects the models in that region correct? :shock:

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#5 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Pfft

and

http://www.gamer.tm/news.asp?id=1700

Magical_Zebra

Obviously still better than M$ 100% defective hardware rate. And this only affects the models in that region correct? :shock:

Yes, it's only there. Sony will handle it, if they haven't already.

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#6 Big_Gamer_Al
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Pfft

and

http://www.gamer.tm/news.asp?id=1700

Magical_Zebra

Obviously still better than M$ 100% defective hardware rate. And this only affects the models in that region correct? :shock:

My 360 is magical and didn't break down so it must be 99.9%

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#7 aajohnny
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Wuxsvan

I wouldn't go against that.

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#8 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Wuxsvan"]

http://www.gamer.tm/news.asp?id=1700

aajohnny

I wouldn't go against that.

Really? You wouldn't?

"No actual numbers have been made available so far, so it's unclear whether this is simply a case of a single retailer receiving a batch of dud consoles or whether this is a more sizeable problem along the lines of the infamous 360 three red lights issue. "

You should really try to go against that, you'll never get a better chance lol

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#9 hate19
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I'll place my bet on 'batch of dud consoles'.
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[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Pfft

and

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Big_Gamer_Al

Obviously still better than M$ 100% defective hardware rate. And this only affects the models in that region correct? :shock:

My 360 is magical and didn't break down so it must be 99.9%

Yet... your Xbox 360 hasn't broken down yet... ;)

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#11 -supercharged-
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"40GB model has been made using revised manufacturing techniques designed to lower costs, and features fewer cooling vents than previous models.

^^This can't be a good thing

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#12 OremLK
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Pfft

and

http://www.gamer.tm/news.asp?id=1700

Magical_Zebra

Obviously still better than M$ 100% defective hardware rate.

What? That's the dumbest thing I've heard here in awhile.

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#13 Big_Gamer_Al
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[QUOTE="Big_Gamer_Al"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Pfft

and

http://www.gamer.tm/news.asp?id=1700

GundamGuy0

Obviously still better than M$ 100% defective hardware rate. And this only affects the models in that region correct? :shock:

My 360 is magical and didn't break down so it must be 99.9%

Yet... your Xbox 360 hasn't broken down yet... ;)

Things break

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[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Pfft

and

http://www.gamer.tm/news.asp?id=1700

Big_Gamer_Al

Obviously still better than M$ 100% defective hardware rate. And this only affects the models in that region correct? :shock:

My 360 is magical and didn't break down so it must be 99.9%

Defective and Failure Rate are two different things. My launch 360 will be 2 years old next month, oh noes!! :shock:

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[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Pfft

and

http://www.gamer.tm/news.asp?id=1700

OremLK

Obviously still better than M$ 100% defective hardware rate.

What? That's the dumbest thing I've heard here in awhile.

Have you looked at your own post? :shock:

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#16 V_Isle
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Heh, I remember BioShockOwnz pointed out the virtually non-existent vents. I mean Sony completely botched the software aspect of the PS3, we all know that...but now you're telling me they botched the hardware too? And I was seriously considering buying a 40 GB..sheesh these guys can't get their stuff together, can they?
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#17 Duckyindiana
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It seems to be more than a batch sent to the same retailer if you check playstation.com you will find people from different countries with the problem.
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#18 MaximumD
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"40GB model has been made using revised manufacturing techniques designed to lower costs, and features fewer cooling vents than previous models.

^^This can't be a good thing

-supercharged-

The 40GB is using a smaller chip and less cooling is needed.

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[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

"40GB model has been made using revised manufacturing techniques designed to lower costs, and features fewer cooling vents than previous models.

^^This can't be a good thing

MaximumD

The 40GB is using a smaller chip and less cooling is needed.

Obviously something is wrong with the revised design :| the 20gig,60gig, and 80gig have been pretty much flawless..

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#20 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="MaximumD"][QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

"40GB model has been made using revised manufacturing techniques designed to lower costs, and features fewer cooling vents than previous models.

^^This can't be a good thing

-supercharged-

The 40GB is using a smaller chip and less cooling is needed.

Obviously something is wrong with the revised design :| the 20gig,60gig, and 80gig have been pretty much flawless..

Yes, but what they are saying has nothing to do with heat.

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#21 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Rather than everyone jumping up and down screaming about this, why don't we wait for some more info maybe, eh? The PS3 has seemed pretty solid so far.
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#22 hate19
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Rather than everyone jumping up and down screaming about this, why don't we wait for some more info maybe, eh? The PS3 has seemed pretty solid so far.blue_hazy_basic

Agreed. PS3 has a lot bigger issues than a few of them breaking down.
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Here is what I find absolutely hilarious.

Lemmings deny the %30 failure rate because they claim nobody can prove it and because the only quote is from some gamespots.

But a single source from some store in belgium says they had %40 returned for failure and suddenly the PS3 has massive world wide failures!

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#24 V_Isle
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Yeah, we should worry more about the horrid software line-up than a possible hardware failure issue.
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#25 trollop_scat
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I may get a PS3 some day, but not till they put one out that makes sense to buy. Like: $300, Full Backwards Compatibility, Dual Shock Sixaxis, and oh yeah how bout some AAAs...
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Here is what I find absolutely hilarious.

Lemmings deny the %30 failure rate because they claim nobody can prove it and because the only quote is from some gamespots.

But a single source from some store in belgium says they had %40 returned for failure and suddenly the PS3 has massive world wide failures!

ZIMdoom
quote/link to all the people saying that?
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#27 hate19
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Here is what I find absolutely hilarious.

Lemmings deny the %30 failure rate because they claim nobody can prove it and because the only quote is from some gamespots.

But a single source from some store in belgium says they had %40 returned for failure and suddenly the PS3 has massive world wide failures!

ZIMdoom


I don't really see anyone saying something so extreme, or is that just how you want to see it?
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#28 Velric
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While I think the sites numbers are less than credible, if there is an issue it needs to be taken care of, whether it is a batch of bad machines or the whole 40GB line.
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As there is no decent games on the PS3, no one has ever played one long enough to break one

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Here is what I find absolutely hilarious.

Lemmings deny the %30 failure rate because they claim nobody can prove it and because the only quote is from some gamespots.

But a single source from some store in belgium says they had %40 returned for failure and suddenly the PS3 has massive world wide failures!

ZIMdoom
Must be a joke post, because I'm laughing.
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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Here is what I find absolutely hilarious.

Lemmings deny the %30 failure rate because they claim nobody can prove it and because the only quote is from some gamespots.

But a single source from some store in belgium says they had %40 returned for failure and suddenly the PS3 has massive world wide failures!

hate19



I don't really see anyone saying something so extreme, or is that just how you want to see it?

Yup I think ZIM just sees what he wants to see. Lems everywhere and knives in the shadows for the PS3. No one was saying that.

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#32 Verge_6
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Here's what I predict will happen in this thread. Cows will deny this, saying that this is hardly a credible source, and since they state that no official numbers have been released, it can't be used. YET, they jump all over that article written by two anonymous former game retailers claiming that the 360 has a 33% defect rate.
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#33 Verge_6
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Here is what I find absolutely hilarious.

Lemmings deny the %30 failure rate because they claim nobody can prove it and because the only quote is from some gamespots.

But a single source from some store in belgium says they had %40 returned for failure and suddenly the PS3 has massive world wide failures!

ZIMdoom

I thought youhad selective vision before, but this just confirms it. :|

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#34 Pripyat
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I blame COD4, finally a game worth playing more than two hours. But seriously, how can it be cheaper to redesign the shell to have fewer went? You just mold the freaking thing, it doesn't cost you a nickel to have extra vents.
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As there is no decent games on the PS3, no one has ever played one long enough to break one

angryfodder

I've got 16 games so please stop saying that stupid there are no games crap. Thanks!

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[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]

"40GB model has been made using revised manufacturing techniques designed to lower costs, and features fewer cooling vents than previous models.

^^This can't be a good thing

MaximumD

The 40GB is using a smaller chip and less cooling is needed.

No it isn't. Unless the article I read where Sony stated they're using the same chip as the other model was not the same chip we're talking about here.

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#37 blackace
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Pfft

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http://www.gamer.tm/news.asp?id=1700

Magical_Zebra

Obviously still better than M$ 100% defective hardware rate. And this only affects the models in that region correct? :shock:

What does this story have to do with the XBox 360? Absolute nothing. Stop trying to deflect the problem to another console. No one knows what the fail rate is on the XBox 360, but M$. There are no official numbers released. There are still many people who still have their original XBox 360 that has never failed. So no, it's not 100%. Even with a fail rate, the XBox 360 is still outselling the PS3 month after month. So obviously people care more about the games then a fail rate on the console.

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#38 Apathetic-Irony
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[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

As there is no decent games on the PS3, no one has ever played one long enough to break one

hiryu3

I've got 16 games so please stop saying that stupid there are no games crap. Thanks!

If you were the average for Software to Hardware ratio, I can guarentee you Sony would be laughing themselves to sleep every night.

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[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Pfft

and

http://www.gamer.tm/news.asp?id=1700

blackace

Obviously still better than M$ 100% defective hardware rate. And this only affects the models in that region correct? :shock:

What does this story have to do with the XBox 360? Absolute nothing. Stop trying to deflect the problem to another console. No one knows what the fail rate is on the XBox 360, but M$. There are no official numbers released. There are still many people who still have their original XBox 360 that has never failed. So no, it's not 100%. Even with a fail rate, the XBox 360 is still outselling the PS3 month after month. So obviously people care more about the games then a fail rate on the console.

Is that a good thing?

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#40 blackace
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[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Pfft

and

http://www.gamer.tm/news.asp?id=1700

blackace

Obviously still better than M$ 100% defective hardware rate. And this only affects the models in that region correct? :shock:

What does this story have to do with the XBox 360? Absolute nothing. Stop trying to deflect the problem to another console. No one knows what the fail rate is on the XBox 360, but M$. There are no official numbers released. There are still many people who still have their original XBox 360 that has never failed. So no, it's not 100%. Even with a fail rate, the XBox 360 is still outselling the PS3 month after month. So obviously people care more about the games then a fail rate on the console.

****************************************

Here is what I find absolutely hilarious.

Lemmings deny the %30 failure rate because they claim nobody can prove it and because the only quote is from some gamespots.

But a single source from some store in belgium says they had %40 returned for failure and suddenly the PS3 has massive world wide failures!

ZIMdoom

No, I think people are waiting for a more creditable source. I'd curious as to if this is happening in other countries as well. It's possible that Belgium just got a bad batch of systems, but we'll have to wait and see. No one is jumping to conclusions yet. As I said because, most people buying the XBox 360 aren't worried about the fail rate when you have a 3 year warranty. ;)

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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Here is what I find absolutely hilarious.

Lemmings deny the %30 failure rate because they claim nobody can prove it and because the only quote is from some gamespots.

But a single source from some store in belgium says they had %40 returned for failure and suddenly the PS3 has massive world wide failures!

blue_hazy_basic

quote/link to all the people saying that?

I'm exadgerating for emphasis.

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I'm exadgerating for emphasis.ZIMdoom
You weren't exaggerating, you were inventing.
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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Here is what I find absolutely hilarious.

Lemmings deny the %30 failure rate because they claim nobody can prove it and because the only quote is from some gamespots.

But a single source from some store in belgium says they had %40 returned for failure and suddenly the PS3 has massive world wide failures!

Verge_6

I thought youhad selective vision before, but this just confirms it. :|

So there hasn't been a bunch of posts from 360 fanboys denying the failure rate of the 360 and claiming the word of a few stores is not proof?

I guess I imagined those threads.

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Here is what I find absolutely hilarious.

Lemmings deny the %30 failure rate because they claim nobody can prove it and because the only quote is from some gamespots.

But a single source from some store in belgium says they had %40 returned for failure and suddenly the PS3 has massive world wide failures!

ZIMdoom

I thought youhad selective vision before, but this just confirms it. :|

So there hasn't been a bunch of posts from 360 fanboys denying the failure rate of the 360 and claiming the word of a few stores is not proof?

I guess I imagined those threads.

He was pointing out that most people don't accept that there are worldwide PS3 failures. :roll:
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#45 Jynxzor
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Well I'll just toss this bit of anecdotal evidence out there, the 40 Gigs I've sold in Alberta all seem fine.
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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]I'm exadgerating for emphasis.Jandurin
You weren't exaggerating, you were inventing.

Which part did I invent? The part where 360 fanboys deny the high 360 failure rate, or the part where now people are claiming a %40 PS3 failure rate for the exact same reasons they claimed were notproof ofthe 360 problems?

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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Here is what I find absolutely hilarious.

Lemmings deny the %30 failure rate because they claim nobody can prove it and because the only quote is from some gamespots.

But a single source from some store in belgium says they had %40 returned for failure and suddenly the PS3 has massive world wide failures!

Jandurin

I thought youhad selective vision before, but this just confirms it. :|

So there hasn't been a bunch of posts from 360 fanboys denying the failure rate of the 360 and claiming the word of a few stores is not proof?

I guess I imagined those threads.

He was pointing out that most people don't accept that there are worldwide PS3 failures. :roll:

I never said "most people accept" anything.

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[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

As there is no decent games on the PS3, no one has ever played one long enough to break one

hiryu3

I've got 16 games so please stop saying that stupid there are no games crap. Thanks!

16 PS3 games. Thats kind of sad. I hope you like sports games.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]I'm exadgerating for emphasis.ZIMdoom

You weren't exaggerating, you were inventing.

Which part did I invent? The part where 360 fanboys deny the high 360 failure rate, or the part where now people are claiming a %40 PS3 failure rate for the exact same reasons they claimed were notproof ofthe 360 problems?

The part where it's accepted that there are high rates of failure for the PS3 worldwide.
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I never said "most people accept" anything. ZIMdoom
you said "lemmings" for the denial, which implies "lemmings" for the PS3 bit, and there are a lot of 360 users on these boards.