41% of all PC software is pirated : (

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#151 True_Gamer_
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piracy will drop when software developers stop charging ridiculously high prices for their programs. Lets face it, the software developers are the ones robbing US by charging so much and making billions of dollars in profit. The way I see it people have the right to pirate from adobe and microsoft. Even though I say this all the games I have are originals

subrosian
Companies have a right to make a profit - it's called capitalism. People who use Adobe products in their professional lives owe their livelyhood to Adobe. It's amusing that people complain about the $1000 pricetag for Photoshop, Illustrator, etc - yet don't seem at all thankful when their skills with said programs land them $50,000 jobs. They're $29,000 a year ahead of a McDonald's employee, yet are angry at Adobe for it

The notion behind the "anti-capitalist" left wingers mentality is that if one pirates Windows Billy wont be harmed because he has like 60billion bucks....
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#152 iowastate
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In case you guys didnt notice. "41% of all PC software is pirated : (" So stop jumping on the "PC gaming is dying thanks to piracy" bandwagon.

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Yes, so he said. And I am still waiting for some authoritative evidence to back up that claim. that article from Reuters said quite a few things but had nothing in except some figures and claims of their own. I saw "the study" mentioned at the end but no authority quoted or linked that give me a reason to trust them in this case anymore than the hard news which is their bread and butter and where they have been caught fudging the truth so many times in the past. I need more before I can take that as the truth. Reuters is the ones that said it and quite frankly i don't have faith in them.
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#153 skulper34
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you do know some download games and then buy them? yeah there are id say maybe 10-15%

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#154 markop2003
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41% seems ridiculously high... i doubt it is that much. Did they account for the free software? that is the only way i see it being 41%....SF_KiLLaMaN
It's cause it's including all software globally, fortop end software like Photoshop i bet there are more illegal copies than leagal also alot of small PC shops install pirated copies of windows (it's hard to find one that does everything by the book)
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#155 IgGy621985
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Software companies aren't that threatened by piracy because of huge profits thanks to enterprise users. Game companies, on the other hand can't rely on business folks.

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#156 tirralirra
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i'm surprised its not more...
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#157 NTSC-U
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I think in my opinion piracy helps the industries of entertainment like for example some just download stuff like music or a pc game just to try it out before actually buying it...theres alot of stuff out there that aren't even worth the full price of money especially music what's wrong with that? i see no problem with that just as long as you like it buy it then delete whatever it is you have same goes if you didn't like it, it has it's ups and downs. But then theres the ones that just download and not give a flyin hoot about the makers of these items, that's what kills business and unique items.

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#158 dinb
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[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]How so? cause i pay for everything i own, cause i think people who make copies of software are stealing? I don't care what method is used, if you have a copy of something that you have to rightfully pay for normally, it's stealing and should be treated as such. VideoGameGuy


It isn't stealing. Stealing is a different crime than copyright infringement... which is why there are different laws covering the two things.

And what if you already own a legal copy of something and make a backup? How is that stealing? You already paid for something and are making a copy so that if something happens to your original, you still have the ability to use the software license you purchased.

And I think the problem you are having in understanding this is that you do not buy the software, but a license to use it. It is not like buying a painting or sculpture or other physical item. It is a non-physical, intellectual license that permits you to legally use the software. Making copies of software is still copyright infringement, but can you say with a straight face that making a backup for your own personal use is stealing? You can't steal from yourself.

I suppose, i suppose. I don't think making copies is for yourself is against the law, which i'm pretty sure isn't, it's when you illegally distribute those copies where i believe the law breaking takes place. I'm not a lawyer, and if i'm wrong i'll admit it. I was just always under the impression that to have a copy of a copyrighted material, whether it be on disc, your hard drive without a license to view or play that material then it was against the law? Am i just not understanding a fundamental here?

You are right, just because he doesn't see it as a loss it is. The reason there are such serious law suits out there is because this is not simple a case of "oh he copied me but it as just computer code so we can't do anything about it"

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#159 dinb
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

piracy will drop when software developers stop charging ridiculously high prices for their programs. Lets face it, the software developers are the ones robbing US by charging so much and making billions of dollars in profit. The way I see it people have the right to pirate from adobe and microsoft. Even though I say this all the games I have are originals

Companies have a right to make a profit - it's called capitalism. People who use Adobe products in their professional lives owe their livelyhood to Adobe. It's amusing that people complain about the $1000 pricetag for Photoshop, Illustrator, etc - yet don't seem at all thankful when their skills with said programs land them $50,000 jobs. They're $29,000 a year ahead of a McDonald's employee, yet are angry at Adobe for it

You are right.
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#160 dinb
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Ultimately one of two things will happen to PC gaming. Either we will see implementation of even more difficult DRM and anti-piracy methods being implemented. Or development will move to the consoles which are more secure... or, now that I think about it, PC gaming could become the realm of bad games that are too bad to be put onto consoles.

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#161 Danm_999
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Ultimately one of two things will happen to PC gaming. Either we will see implementation of even more difficult DRM and anti-piracy methods being implemented. Or development will move to the consoles which are more secure... or, now that I think about it, PC gaming could become the realm of bad games that are too bad to be put onto consoles.

dinb
Boiling possibilities down to two extremes does not make them correct. History doesn't corroborate your ideas either; piracy has been an issue for nearly a decade, yet PC gaming is stronger than ever.
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#162 double_heist
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Piracy is inevitable, especially in developing to undeveloped countries. Majority would go for the pirated ones over the original ones especially if they are not power users (like a teenager belonging to a developing/undeveloped country who wants to use photoshop but since he isn't a power user, he would rather get the pirated one.)

I can see that piracy can help the PC hardware much but not so much on the Software developers.

Piracy is a double edged sword.

Oh and regarding games. Yes, the majority would rather buy a pirated game in a developing/undeveloped country since most are casual gamers and the gaming hobby is expensive. Same goes for Wii and 360. That's why you guys noticed that PS3 is the lowest of all the new gen systems, including handhelds, they're all piratable. ;)

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#163 HuusAsking
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pirating photoshop = pirating games? imprezawrx500
Most people wouldn't buy Photoshop even if they had no alternative--they'd simply not use anything because it's mostly professional software, bought by businesses for their work. Pirating and using it is just a target of convenience. Incidentally, this professional software gets pretty pricey. Perhaps piracy of expensive professional software by opportunistic amateurs is skewing the money statistics?