4K Console - Who lied more?

I think both mid step consoles have been a disappointment.

Both MS and Sony have over promised and under delivered.

Both flops

Nintendo

Both in way over their heads. A proper 4K/60fps is very difficult to pull off, even on high end PC hardware. It is silly to claim that these consoles are 4K systems. They should have come out with better CPUs so they can at least do 1080p/60fps on all games.

Sony said some BS, but at least they were telling people about checkboard rendering and dynamic 4K up front. MS said NO such things, but let Digital Foundry do their dirty work for them. They continued to run with the narrative of True 4K and uncompromised power and it's been anything but. "Microsoft" and "the truth" have been mutually exclusive since the console was announced.

neither, I dont remember them saying that all games will be 4k - 60 fps.

The part where Msoft had to make up their own term "True 4k"

Rofl.

They're both pretty bad. It's a shame buztz words work so well with the average consumer. People don't make educated purchases.

Both. Man, the amount of money people have wasted on these mediocre upgrades... lol.

I can personally attest and you can't do better than that, Mighty X1X MonsterBox Over delivers on every promise. A truly spectacular machine... Simply Marvelous , no kidding.

Thank you MS, for the gamers.... Jazz!! :P

True 4K has been used for quite some time by several other companies, look it up before posting crap!

I don't give a shit about other companies. I know what is 4k and what isnt. Having another one lying in the mix does not help. How many of those other companies are relative to this forum topic? Way to sidetrack.

“Ronvalencia” should be a choice.

MS. They tout True & Uncompromised 4k throughout their marketing campaign, which I feel is borderline deceptive.

This. Now some gamers; as usual, are pretending to be the victims yet again.

Lmao at people voting Sony..... they never said Pro was a native 4k console... not even close.

They are still both 4K consoles. Most of the games run higher on 1080P on both machines. To see the benefits of this you need a 4K TV which means they are both 4K consoles. Pretty easy to figure out I think. I am happy with both of my purchases and games do look better on both machines.

I personally don't care about the native 4K claims, I wish developers actually did the checkboard thingy and tricks like supersampling to squeeze every last drop of visual fidelity out of their games and use the extra resources toward spicing the games up with visual niceties.

Anyone watched the latest PS commercial? "Supercharged 4k gaming" ❤️

They're as bad as each other. Both use a bunch of deceptive advertising to lure in the clueless.

Both PR machines are on full force using lying techniques around the 4k word. Sony is f***in worse as the pro is no where closer to it. Sony PR got devs going out there saying things like "For our 4k mode we chose 1440p with temperal AA, we think its the best choice for the game". Gotta always make sure the word 4k is used and it was a choice cause ps4pro has a 4k mode baby.

They are still advertising games as 4k that dont even touch it.

Got to be hard to take, people not agreeing with you.

Both companies overhyped their newest consoles. Both are capable of native 4k, but none is powerful enough to run most current gen AAA games at that resolution.

As i always have been saying, 4k should wait for 9th generation, for hardware capable of handling 4k60 without compromisses.

The taste of bitter sweet damage control.

Lol, we'll have to wait till after 2020 for a 4k ninty console.

@SecretPolice said:

I can personally attest and you can't do better than that, Mighty X1X MonsterBox Over delivers on every promise. A truly spectacular machine... Simply Marvelous , no kidding.

Thank you MS, for the gamers.... Jazz!! :P

LOL you're right. 12 FPS is for sure the definitive version that's for sure.

@daredevils2k said:

@SecretPolice said:

I can personally attest and you can't do better than that, Mighty X1X MonsterBox Over delivers on every promise. A truly spectacular machine... Simply Marvelous , no kidding.

Thank you MS, for the gamers.... Jazz!! :P

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LOL you're right. 12 FPS is for sure the definitive version that's for sure.

Unfinished game is unfinished. My goodness your slick.

Also, 0 fps on the PS Bore Poo... Cry Mooaar. :P

Microsoft by far, they delivered an absolute flop.

Sony overdelivered, they promised improved performance at a very affordable price point. They ended up delivering the only professional console experience on the market.

have you actually watched the video, especially the point about Sony advertising 4k on games that done deliver any where near 4k?

just asking.

They are consoles for 4k tellies IMO, not 4k consoles per se. Both can look great on a 4k TV, especially with HDR. Playing 1080p games from a 65" TV is, quite frankly, plain balls and I'm happy we have an option to upgrade our consoles.

Actually if nintendo really wanted to troll hard, they should get pacman at 4k resolution on the switch then advertise switch as 4k handheld.

Hahaha

They advertise there system here all day long as a 4k gaming machine, which is frankly a utterly lie as barely anything runs at 4k on it.

And what does professional console experience even mean? how are a bunch of game boxes professional?

Both lied just as bad

Piranha seems to have his head up Sony's ass...lol. Anyone who isn't a hardcore lem or cow can see that this is both; Microsoft & Sony's fault. In terms of this thread, which company lied more seems to fall slightly more onto Microsoft...

If you look at this list Sony lied more. Especially considering it’s outdated and X1X has added a number of 4K titles since it was published:

https://www.finder.com.au/xbox-one-x-vs-ps4-pro-enhancements

This!

But I'm just gonna say both Sony/MS are way over there heads with 4K, it's soooo not ready on consoles and the Pro/Xbox One X is already showing it's not. 4K is hard business on a high-end PC.

MS lived up to expectations more, but I find they're both almost as bad as each other.

I'm not keeping track of that stuff, what I do know is the X has delivered for me.... the upgrade is substantial, even game-changing in some games, no pun intended......and many of those games are either Native 4K or a close imitation to it, as DF recently put it....so 1800P or whatever. Dynamic Res and all that. Bottom line is my 4K TV is getting a good use out of this console, if that makes sense. Cheers

If anything, it's better to advertise them as great 1080p machines.

True, and you would of thought after coming off the flop of the Xbone reveal in 2013 where they blatantly and with malicious lied to the general public, they would learned.

LOL ?

I don't give a shit. I know which one performs better in my living room. Thank you Microsoft and God bless the United States

Did any of them actually lie?

Not really this is just fanboy made up dog shit to be honest. Neither of them lied!

Would be nice if Pro/Xbox One X was all about 60fps only. 1080p/60fps is what X1X should have corrected and MS didn't learned nothing from Pro's mistake. High resolution is always been eye candy, not saying it's a bad thing, just don't get carried away.

Yeah, hell, I still think it's pointless to own a 4K TV when getting 4K on Netflix or Amazon Prime requires faster internet, especially when everyone that isn't a HT Enthusiast use WiFi to connect their devices to the internet.

@SecretPolice said:

I can personally attest and you can't do better than that, Mighty X1X MonsterBox Over delivers on every promise. A truly spectacular machine... Simply Marvelous , no kidding.

Thank you MS, for the gamers.... Jazz!! :P

20FPS PUBG

Especially when most people don't even have 4K TVs yet, or have TVs smaller than 60 inches, where you can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K.