4K gaming by the end of 2014

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#1 zeeshanhaider
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Well I was just going over the Crytek's presentation and in the end they said that by the end of 2014 we will have GPUs with 16TFLOPS. That's too much and it makes me sad that just after 1 year of the release of consoles we will have 8 times more powerful GPUs. Just imagine the possibilities. Anyways, so 4K@60FPS by the end of 2014 confirmed? (I hope the prices of 4K TVs/Monitors go down, I just can't afford $25K TV).

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Well I was just going over the Crytek's presentation and in the end they said that by the end of 2014 we will have GPUs with 16TFLOPS. That's too much and it makes me sad that just after 1 year of the release of consoles we will have 8 times more powerful GPUs. Just imagine the possibilities. Anyways, so 4K@60FPS by the end of 2014 confirmed? (I hope the prices of 4K TVs/Monitors go down, I just can't afford $25K TV).

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#3 psymon100
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Eh, I'd probably go for 1080p120 over 2160p ~30. 

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#4 silversix_
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lol Xbone with his 1.2tflops :lol:
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lol Xbone with his 1.2tflops :lol:silversix_
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#6 LegatoSkyheart
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4K is a complete gimmick.

There will be people trying to prove me otherwise, but to be honest 1080p is fine just as is.

I don't think Pictures can get any clearer.

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#7 HaloinventedFPS
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4k monitors/tv's are getting cheap fast

i paid 4k for my 40inch 1080p TV years ago, i can get a 30inch 4k monitor now for 3k

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#8 HaloinventedFPS
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4K is a complete gimmick.

There will be people trying to prove me otherwise, but to be honest 1080p is fine just as is.

I don't think Pictures can get any clearer.

LegatoSkyheart

DVD is a complete gimmick.

There will be people trying to prove me otherwise, but to be honest VHS is fine just as is.

I don't think Pictures can get any clearer.

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#9 uninspiredcup
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With all 2 people running a 4k tv, this will be a huge hit.

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Yes, if you're ready to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars for it, then it's already possible.

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#11 N30F3N1X
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by the end of 2014 we will have GPUs with 16TFLOPS.

zeeshanhaider

You mean by the end of 2014 we'll have a 16 thousands of billions of games that flopped?

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#12 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

4K is a complete gimmick.

There will be people trying to prove me otherwise, but to be honest 1080p is fine just as is.

I don't think Pictures can get any clearer.

HaloinventedFPS

DVD is a complete gimmick.

There will be people trying to prove me otherwise, but to be honest VHS is fine just as is.

I don't think Pictures can get any clearer.

Except VHS degrade with each playback if I remember correctly.

DVD and VHS was night and day as well.

1080p vs 4K not so much.

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4K is a complete gimmick.

There will be people trying to prove me otherwise, but to be honest 1080p is fine just as is.

I don't think Pictures can get any clearer.

LegatoSkyheart
Someone hasn't seen a 4K TV it seems.
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#14 Rocker6
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4K is a complete gimmick.

There will be people trying to prove me otherwise, but to be honest 1080p is fine just as is.

I don't think Pictures can get any clearer.

LegatoSkyheart

Have you ever seen a 4K monitor in action to make such a conclusion?

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#15 adamosmaki
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4K is a complete gimmick.

There will be people trying to prove me otherwise, but to be honest 1080p is fine just as is.

I don't think Pictures can get any clearer.

LegatoSkyheart
i dont think you know the meaning of gimmick. Gimmick is something like wii board. Improved display and GPU technology isnt "gimmick" . By your thoughts we might as well stayed at cassetes and cd's since MP3's are gimmicks. Also its great to move ahead of 1080p. Desktop and TV techmology seemed to have stalled lately as opposed to mobile phones displays.
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#16 ShadowriverUB
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Eh, I'd probably go for 1080p120 over 2160p ~30. 

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Do you got monitor that supports 120Hz on 1080p?
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Will 4k make games better than 1080P...... of course not. If we're talking the realisation of a believable universe, the further towards photorealism we travel the more repeated textures and animations become apparent. Pixel felchers seem to forget the nuances that create the facade of believability.

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#18 call_of_duty_10
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Who cares.

The assets in games won't be detailed enough to benefit from the resoution.

4k gaming will be pointless untill PS5 and xbox 2 are released.

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#19 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]

Well I was just going over the Crytek's presentation and in the end they said that by the end of 2014 we will have GPUs with 16TFLOPS. That's too much and it makes me sad that just after 1 year of the release of consoles we will have 8 times more powerful GPUs. Just imagine the possibilities. Anyways, so 4K@60FPS by the end of 2014 confirmed? (I hope the prices of 4K TVs/Monitors go down, I just can't afford $25K TV).

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And how many games will take full advantage of those GPUs before 2017?

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#21 lostrib
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man, going to be some big ass monitors

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#22 adamosmaki
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And how many games will take full advantage of those GPUs before 2017?

PAL360
when you are playing at 4k then alot of games. We are talking more than 4 times the pixels of 1080p
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#23 call_of_duty_10
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And how many games will take full advantage of those GPUs before 2017?

PAL360
None. The only way to justify your purchase will be by jacking up the resolution,which will do nothing to improve the graphics as the assets will be made for ps4 hardware.
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

And how many games will take full advantage of those GPUs before 2017?

call_of_duty_10

None. The only way to justify your purchase will be by jacking up the resolution,which will do nothing to improve the graphics as the assets will be made for ps4 hardware.

there are ultra settings for a reason

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#25 svaubel
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How many people do you know that bought a 3DTV?

How many people you think will go drop 10k$+ on another TV just because the tech industry wants us to?

4K is pointless.

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#26 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

And how many games will take full advantage of those GPUs before 2017?

lostrib

None. The only way to justify your purchase will be by jacking up the resolution,which will do nothing to improve the graphics as the assets will be made for ps4 hardware.

there are ultra settings for a reason

The ultra settings will be equivalent to console settings for the first few years of the gen.
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goood so with the next next gen release we will have 16 tflops good idea. release those gfx cards now and make them cheaper later

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] None. The only way to justify your purchase will be by jacking up the resolution,which will do nothing to improve the graphics as the assets will be made for ps4 hardware.call_of_duty_10

there are ultra settings for a reason

The ultra settings will be equivalent to console settings for the first few years of the gen.

that's pure speculation

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[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]

Well I was just going over the Crytek's presentation and in the end they said that by the end of 2014 we will have GPUs with 16TFLOPS. That's too much and it makes me sad that just after 1 year of the release of consoles we will have 8 times more powerful GPUs. Just imagine the possibilities. Anyways, so 4K@60FPS by the end of 2014 confirmed? (I hope the prices of 4K TVs/Monitors go down, I just can't afford $25K TV).

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From nobody you mean consolites. Poor consolites getting poor hardware, I know it hurts when someone is expecting tri SLI 680's and get 1.8 TFLOPS 7850, I feel for you man. I really do.:(

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#30 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

there are ultra settings for a reason

lostrib

The ultra settings will be equivalent to console settings for the first few years of the gen.

that's pure speculation

History will repeat itself.
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#31 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

And how many games will take full advantage of those GPUs before 2017?

call_of_duty_10

None. The only way to justify your purchase will be by jacking up the resolution,which will do nothing to improve the graphics as the assets will be made for ps4 hardware.

this reminds me of the whole 720p vs 1080p argument when alot of fanboys didnt see any advantages. On top of jacking up resolution which is a decent advantage in its self those gpu's will be usefull to play demanding games at 60fps ( quite sure the likes of future Metro,Arma,Battlefield,Witcher,Total War and maybe others will take advantage of those gpu's ) as well as play some games with demanding mods ( such as skyrim ) without frame drops.

Even if a game doesnt utilize that gpu 100% it will still be better than a gpu that will be running at 100% all the time in the respect of lower temps and lower power consumption. 

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] The ultra settings will be equivalent to console settings for the first few years of the gen.call_of_duty_10

that's pure speculation

History will repeat itself.

How so. This Gen Xbox was specced to match a high end PC. Next gen consoles are specced to match a mid range PC

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#33 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] None. The only way to justify your purchase will be by jacking up the resolution,which will do nothing to improve the graphics as the assets will be made for ps4 hardware.call_of_duty_10

there are ultra settings for a reason

The ultra settings will be equivalent to console settings for the first few years of the gen.

Sure for some games that devs dont put extra efford into pc version. For other games like future battlefields,metro's,witcher's and others it wont be the same.
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] The ultra settings will be equivalent to console settings for the first few years of the gen.call_of_duty_10

that's pure speculation

History will repeat itself.

Surely you must have an example of that.

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#35 Gargus
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

4K is a complete gimmick.

There will be people trying to prove me otherwise, but to be honest 1080p is fine just as is.

I don't think Pictures can get any clearer.

LegatoSkyheart

DVD is a complete gimmick.

There will be people trying to prove me otherwise, but to be honest VHS is fine just as is.

I don't think Pictures can get any clearer.

Except VHS degrade with each playback if I remember correctly.

DVD and VHS was night and day as well.

1080p vs 4K not so much.

Let me guess. You havent actually seen or used a 4k tv in person in real life have you? Nah, you read some jaded so called "tv experts" blog that says it sucks so you think it sucks because some guy on the internet said so. Or you watched a comparrison video online where the trick is, you are watching both in non 4k so you cant actually see the difference. Or you are one of those people who just wants to dislike new stuff so you have made up your mind it sucks without actually knowing anything about it. The proverbiale old man who dislikes anything that wasnt around during his childhood. Or are you a contrarian that automatically wants to dislike something just because its popular?

I saw it at a trade show and it was damned amazing the amount of detail in 4k.

Its 3840 x 2160 pixels and its gorgeous. That makes it twice 1920 by twice 1080 for effectively 4 times as many pixels.

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#36 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

And how many games will take full advantage of those GPUs before 2017?

adamosmaki

None. The only way to justify your purchase will be by jacking up the resolution,which will do nothing to improve the graphics as the assets will be made for ps4 hardware.

this reminds me of the whole 720p vs 1080p argument when alot of fanboys didnt see any advantages. On top of jacking up resolution which is a decent advantage in its self those gpu's will be usefull to play demanding games at 60fps ( quite sure the likes of future Metro,Arma,Battlefield,Witcher,Total War and maybe others will take advantage of those gpu's ) as well as play some games with demanding mods ( such as skyrim ) without frame drops.

Even if a game doesnt utilize that gpu 100% it will still be better than a gpu that will be running at 100% all the time in the respect of lower temps and lower power consumption. 

Fair enough. But 4k won't make the assets better.Some people need to understand this. The most important thing that determines graphics fidelity,is the quality of assets and lighting/shadows.Sure,4k will give you a much bigger image,but it won't make the graphics better.
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

And how many games will take full advantage of those GPUs before 2017?

adamosmaki

None. The only way to justify your purchase will be by jacking up the resolution,which will do nothing to improve the graphics as the assets will be made for ps4 hardware.

this reminds me of the whole 720p vs 1080p argument when alot of fanboys didnt see any advantages. On top of jacking up resolution which is a decent advantage in its self those gpu's will be usefull to play demanding games at 60fps ( quite sure the likes of future Metro,Arma,Battlefield,Witcher,Total War and maybe others will take advantage of those gpu's ) as well as play some games with demanding mods ( such as skyrim ) without frame drops.

Even if a game doesnt utilize that gpu 100% it will still be better than a gpu that will be running at 100% all the time in the respect of lower temps and lower power consumption. 

Exactly, nothing is important to consolites as long as their 'next-gen' doesn't start then they will come and claim ridiculous things and suddenly all those things starts to matter to them  and they fight with eachother over a difference of a pixel.

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#38 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

that's pure speculation

lostrib

History will repeat itself.

How so. This Gen Xbox was specced to match a high end PC. Next gen consoles are specced to match a mid range PC

So? In 2008,many people had 8800GTs(2x the power of a 360).Multiplats were still being made for console hardware.

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You can game at 4k on PC right now but good luck getting a monitor or screen that supports it at a consumer price. Also funding a PC that can maintain 4k at a reasonable framerate

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#41 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] None. The only way to justify your purchase will be by jacking up the resolution,which will do nothing to improve the graphics as the assets will be made for ps4 hardware.call_of_duty_10

this reminds me of the whole 720p vs 1080p argument when alot of fanboys didnt see any advantages. On top of jacking up resolution which is a decent advantage in its self those gpu's will be usefull to play demanding games at 60fps ( quite sure the likes of future Metro,Arma,Battlefield,Witcher,Total War and maybe others will take advantage of those gpu's ) as well as play some games with demanding mods ( such as skyrim ) without frame drops.

Even if a game doesnt utilize that gpu 100% it will still be better than a gpu that will be running at 100% all the time in the respect of lower temps and lower power consumption. 

Fair enough. But 4k won't make the assets better.Some people need to understand this. The most important thing that determines graphics fidelity,is the quality of assets and lighting/shadows.Sure,4k will give you a much bigger image,but it won't make the graphics better.

Well we dont know that. That will be probably true for most multiplats but there will still be pc focused games with assets designed for 4k gaming ( probably not much games until a decent amount of people adopts 4k but still a few games will be there for those alredy or plan to adopt 4k )
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#42 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] History will repeat itself.call_of_duty_10

How so. This Gen Xbox was specced to match a high end PC. Next gen consoles are specced to match a mid range PC

So? In 2008,many people had 8800GTs(2x the power of a 360).Multiplats were still being made for console hardware.

We've never had a gen last as long as this before though so PCs have gone an extra step further this time. 

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#43 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] History will repeat itself.call_of_duty_10

How so. This Gen Xbox was specced to match a high end PC. Next gen consoles are specced to match a mid range PC

So? In 2008,many people had 8800GTs(2x the power of a 360).Multiplats were still being made for console hardware.

that's still no evidence that history will repeat itself. Especially with news that big name multiplats like Watch dogs, BF4, Dark souls 2 are using PC as lead platforms

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] History will repeat itself.call_of_duty_10

How so. This Gen Xbox was specced to match a high end PC. Next gen consoles are specced to match a mid range PC

So? In 2008,many people had 8800GTs(2x the power of a 360).Multiplats were still being made for console hardware.

Except Crysis.;) We will always get someone who will be willing to push the boundaries.

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#45 zeeshanhaider
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Damn so much butthurt from consolites. Don't worry consolites you will get to play in 4k resolution too by the end of 2025 though that's another story that by that time we would be playing games in 8K full holograhpic working VR setup that you are actually part of the game world.:cool:

I feel for you consolites, I really do.:(

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#46 menes777
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

How so. This Gen Xbox was specced to match a high end PC. Next gen consoles are specced to match a mid range PC

lostrib

So? In 2008,many people had 8800GTs(2x the power of a 360).Multiplats were still being made for console hardware.

that's still no evidence that history will repeat itself. Especially with news that big name multiplats like Watch dogs, BF4, Dark souls 2 are using PC as lead platforms

Publishers are shifting back towards the PC this gen for various reasons.  It will definitely be different this gen than the last.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] So? In 2008,many people had 8800GTs(2x the power of a 360).Multiplats were still being made for console hardware.

menes777

that's still no evidence that history will repeat itself. Especially with news that big name multiplats like Watch dogs, BF4, Dark souls 2 are using PC as lead platforms

Publishers are shifting back towards the PC this gen for various reasons.  It will definitely be different this gen than the last.

not to mention the fact that graphics are scalable.  Hell even Skyrim released a hi res texture pack this gen.  And max payne 3 has ridiculous textures

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#48 menes777
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Damn so much butthurt from consolites. Don't worry consolites you will get to play in 4k resolution too by the end of 2025 though that's another story that by that time we would be playing games in 8K full holograhpic working VR setup that you are actually part of the game world.:cool:

I feel for you consolites, I really do.:(

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They are in full damage control mode.  

Their console can't do it so it's just a gimmick.

Bu bu bu but console will still be the lowest common denominator.

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#49 call_of_duty_10
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How so. This Gen Xbox was specced to match a high end PC. Next gen consoles are specced to match a mid range PC

lostrib

So? In 2008,many people had 8800GTs(2x the power of a 360).Multiplats were still being made for console hardware.

that's still no evidence that history will repeat itself. Especially with news that big name multiplats like Watch dogs, BF4, Dark souls 2 are using PC as lead platforms

Well,PC does not have fixed hardware. PC getting the status of lead platform still does not ensure that the games will utilise high end hardware. And why would the devs do that anyway?Look at crysis 1.The game was made for top-of-the-line PCs of 2007.Crytek couldn't even port it to consoles without a new engine.In these times,where 99% games are multiplat,no one wants hassles while porting to different platforms.
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#50 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] So? In 2008,many people had 8800GTs(2x the power of a 360).Multiplats were still being made for console hardware.

call_of_duty_10

that's still no evidence that history will repeat itself. Especially with news that big name multiplats like Watch dogs, BF4, Dark souls 2 are using PC as lead platforms

Well,PC does not have fixed hardware. PC getting the status of lead platform still does not ensure that the games will utilise high end hardware. And why would the devs do that anyway?Look at crysis 1.The game was made for top-of-the-line PCs of 2007.Crytek couldn't even port it to consoles without a new engine.In these times,where 99% games are multiplat,no one wants hassles while porting to different platforms.

so now you're just making more wild assumptions and speculation.  keep up the damage control