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#101 NeonNinja
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So in 2009 there was an RTS spin-off by a now defunct studio and an expansion to a 2007 game while in 2011 we're getting a remastered version of Combat Evolved...... so what the hell are you getting at?

As far as main entries go, there was Combat Evolved in 2001, Halo 2 in 2004, Halo 3 in 2007, Halo: Reach in 2010 and Halo 4 in 2012. Everything in between have been extras for the fans.

Wars was released to honor Halo's beginning as an RTS before the shift to TPS which then shifted to FPS. ODST was an expansion that showed what happened during Halo 2 while Master Chief was off of Earth. And Anniversary is being released simply because it IS the 10 year anniversary of Combat Evolved.

We can claim milkage if there's a Halo game released in 2013, 2014 and so on. But for now, I'm not calling anything of the sort.

finalstar2007

O yea NeonNinja i saw and read your huge reply yesterday actually if you remember from that other FPS thread and was surprised it got removed to begin with anwyays was going to PM you about it and might do so in the upcoming days, truly interesting it was

Uh... OK.

I don't know what else to tell you my man. NeonNinja just suggests the games that people should play. In fact, I'm finishing up Shogo and I've got playthroughs of FarCry and Duke Nukem 3D going on as well. lightwarrior and I have Christened September as the month to play badass shooters. :P

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#102 viper-kid
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Sales does not show the quality of a product, sales only shows the popularity of a product, and popularity =/= quality either.

turtlethetaffer

Why are people buying Cod , which SW says is inferior? Think about it, its not because of price, like the Mc Ds vs restaurant or wii vs ps3 which have different pricing, all the games are the sale price.

Don't worry, DJ, I already answered this question for you.

But I didn't hear any FACTS just the normal 'its not good'. Like I said your OPINION can't refute sales.
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#103 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Why are people buying Cod , which SW says is inferior? Think about it, its not because of price, like the Mc Ds vs restaurant or wii vs ps3 which have different pricing, all the games are the sale price. viper-kid

Don't worry, DJ, I already answered this question for you.

But I didn't hear any FACTS just the normal 'its not good'. Like I said your OPINION can't refute sales.

The fact of the matter is that CoD is a decent FPS that appeals to a more broad audience than other, more indepth FPS's. Is that enough FACTS for you?

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#104 viper-kid
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Sales does not show the quality of a product, sales only shows the popularity of a product, and popularity =/= quality either.

DJ-Lafleur

Why are people buying Cod , which SW says is inferior? Think about it, its not because of price, like the Mc Ds vs restaurant or wii vs ps3 which have different pricing, all the games are the sale price.

Because people like it, yes. Doesn't mean it is higher quality.

Just compare McDonalds to an obscure four star restaraunt, which one would you say is more popular and gets more customers? Which one would you say has higher quality?

Pricing is a major factor in that were as games are the same price...
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#105 Ravensmash
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Well, surely in a discussion about "milkage", sales are undeniably the most important factor? Because obviously there's demand out there, and all Activision/MS are doing is supplying it to the gamers who want it.
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#106 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

So in 2009 there was an RTS spin-off by a now defunct studio and an expansion to a 2007 game while in 2011 we're getting a remastered version of Combat Evolved...... so what the hell are you getting at?

As far as main entries go, there was Combat Evolved in 2001, Halo 2 in 2004, Halo 3 in 2007, Halo: Reach in 2010 and Halo 4 in 2012. Everything in between have been extras for the fans.

Wars was released to honor Halo's beginning as an RTS before the shift to TPS which then shifted to FPS. ODST was an expansion that showed what happened during Halo 2 while Master Chief was off of Earth. And Anniversary is being released simply because it IS the 10 year anniversary of Combat Evolved.

We can claim milkage if there's a Halo game released in 2013, 2014 and so on. But for now, I'm not calling anything of the sort.

NeonNinja

O yea NeonNinja i saw and read your huge reply yesterday actually if you remember from that other FPS thread and was surprised it got removed to begin with anwyays was going to PM you about it and might do so in the upcoming days, truly interesting it was

Uh... OK.

I don't know what else to tell you my man. NeonNinja just suggests the games that people should play. In fact, I'm finishing up Shogo and I've got playthroughs of FarCry and Duke Nukem 3D going on as well. lightwarrior and I have Christened September as the month to play badass shooters. :P

Playthroughs? do you do the youtube kind of playthroughs? i honestly love watching youtube playthorughs, montages, trophy/achievement videos, etc.. i'd subscribe :P

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#107 viper-kid
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Don't worry, DJ, I already answered this question for you.

turtlethetaffer

But I didn't hear any FACTS just the normal 'its not good'. Like I said your OPINION can't refute sales.

The fact of the matter is that CoD is a decent FPS that appeals to a more broad audience than other, more indepth FPS's. Is that enough FACTS for you?

'Decent' in YOUR opinion.I m sure the people buying yearly disagree. No facts just the norm
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#108 The_RedLion
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yeah i agree halo and bungie are so overrated, bungie needs to step up their game and learn from infinity ward halo was once the fps king and now its just a forgotten series almost no one talks about
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Well, surely in a discussion about "milkage", sales are undeniably the most important factor? Because obviously there's demand out there, and all Activision/MS are doing is supplying it to the gamers who want it.

I actually like Cod coming out yearly. Gives me my yearly gaming fix.
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#110 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] But I didn't hear any FACTS just the normal 'its not good'. Like I said your OPINION can't refute sales. viper-kid

The fact of the matter is that CoD is a decent FPS that appeals to a more broad audience than other, more indepth FPS's. Is that enough FACTS for you?

'Decent' in YOUR opinion.I m sure the people buying yearly disagree. No facts just the norm

So how is their opinion any more relevant than mine? When you put it all together, it's just two different opinions. What makes them more relevant than mine? You really like throwing around that fact word.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Well, surely in a discussion about "milkage", sales are undeniably the most important factor? Because obviously there's demand out there, and all Activision/MS are doing is supplying it to the gamers who want it.viper-kid
I actually like Cod coming out yearly. Gives me my yearly gaming fix.

Is that really all you play? Missing out on some great games.

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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]yeah i agree halo and bungie are so overrated, bungie needs to step up their game and learn from infinity ward halo was once the fps king and now its just a forgotten series almost no one talks about

Bungie is no longer making Halo and Plenty of people talk about Halo....
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

So in 2009 there was an RTS spin-off by a now defunct studio and an expansion to a 2007 game while in 2011 we're getting a remastered version of Combat Evolved...... so what the hell are you getting at?

As far as main entries go, there was Combat Evolved in 2001, Halo 2 in 2004, Halo 3 in 2007, Halo: Reach in 2010 and Halo 4 in 2012. Everything in between have been extras for the fans.

Wars was released to honor Halo's beginning as an RTS before the shift to TPS which then shifted to FPS. ODST was an expansion that showed what happened during Halo 2 while Master Chief was off of Earth. And Anniversary is being released simply because it IS the 10 year anniversary of Combat Evolved.

We can claim milkage if there's a Halo game released in 2013, 2014 and so on. But for now, I'm not calling anything of the sort.

NeonNinja

O yea NeonNinja i saw and read your huge reply yesterday actually if you remember from that other FPS thread and was surprised it got removed to begin with anwyays was going to PM you about it and might do so in the upcoming days, truly interesting it was

Uh... OK.

I don't know what else to tell you my man. NeonNinja just suggests the games that people should play. In fact, I'm finishing up Shogo and I've got playthroughs of FarCry and Duke Nukem 3D going on as well. lightwarrior and I have Christened September as the month to play badass shooters. :P

You guys made September the "Play Badass Shooters Month" and NO ONE TOLD ME?! :evil:
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#114 Eponique
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I hate how video games totally poop on the word "trilogy". Most games that are supposed to be trilogies are never trilogies...

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#115 walkingdream
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Did u just Call Halo:CE milkage? :evil:

HOW DARE U!

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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]yeah i agree halo and bungie are so overrated, bungie needs to step up their game and learn from infinity ward halo was once the fps king and now its just a forgotten series almost no one talks aboutAgentConker
Bungie is no longer making Halo and Plenty of people talk about Halo....

that's good news maybe 343 can bring halo back to glory
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Well, surely in a discussion about "milkage", sales are undeniably the most important factor? Because obviously there's demand out there, and all Activision/MS are doing is supplying it to the gamers who want it.

I actually like Cod coming out yearly. Gives me my yearly gaming fix.

And this is the point I'm gonna make ^ The fact that we're arguing about two extremely popular franchises, and how they're releasing lots (and then viewing it as a negative). Newsflash - People buy things they see value in, and companies cater to that demand by supplying it often. Maybe if the popularity of the franchises were declining (I mean massively, not a few million here and there, off the top of millions of other sales...) then complaining would make sense.
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#118 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

O yea NeonNinja i saw and read your huge reply yesterday actually if you remember from that other FPS thread and was surprised it got removed to begin with anwyays was going to PM you about it and might do so in the upcoming days, truly interesting it was

finalstar2007

Uh... OK.

I don't know what else to tell you my man. NeonNinja just suggests the games that people should play. In fact, I'm finishing up Shogo and I've got playthroughs of FarCry and Duke Nukem 3D going on as well. lightwarrior and I have Christened September as the month to play badass shooters. :P

Playthroughs? do you do the youtube kind of playthroughs? i honestly love watching youtube playthorughs, montages, trophy/achievement videos, etc.. i'd subscribe :P

Oh no, I don't do a Let's Play or anything of the sort. I just kind of PLAY through the games. :P Shogo is badass though! I'm like this close to the end. :P

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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Well, surely in a discussion about "milkage", sales are undeniably the most important factor? Because obviously there's demand out there, and all Activision/MS are doing is supplying it to the gamers who want it.turtlethetaffer

I actually like Cod coming out yearly. Gives me my yearly gaming fix.

Is that really all you play? Missing out on some great games.

No thats my main fix I get other games too. lol like this I m getting all the heavy hitters. I m more hardcore on PC with total war, civilization, simcity and so on. But console is for relaxing and Cod does it best IMO.
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#120 turtlethetaffer
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I hate video games and how they totally poop on the word "trilogy". Most games that are supposed to be trilogies are never trilogies...Eponique

As far as main series games go, Viewtiful Joe was faithful to the trilogy thing. (granted, the third ended with a cliff hanger and Red Hot Rumble was out but I don't think that's series canon) I wish they would break the trilogy thing, though...

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#121 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

O yea NeonNinja i saw and read your huge reply yesterday actually if you remember from that other FPS thread and was surprised it got removed to begin with anwyays was going to PM you about it and might do so in the upcoming days, truly interesting it was

DarkLink77

Uh... OK.

I don't know what else to tell you my man. NeonNinja just suggests the games that people should play. In fact, I'm finishing up Shogo and I've got playthroughs of FarCry and Duke Nukem 3D going on as well. lightwarrior and I have Christened September as the month to play badass shooters. :P

You guys made September the "Play Badass Shooters Month" and NO ONE TOLD ME?! :evil:

Yo, DL. There's something I gotta tell you.

Septemer is the "Play Badass Shooters Month." You might wanna consider playing some badass shooters.... cuz, uh, y'know, that's what September is all about...... >_>;

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#122 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] I actually like Cod coming out yearly. Gives me my yearly gaming fix.viper-kid

Is that really all you play? Missing out on some great games.

No thats my main fix I get other games too. lol like this I m getting all the heavy hitters. I m more hardcore on PC with total war, civilization, simcity and so on. But console is for relaxing and Cod does it best IMO.

CoD isn't relaxing. That's just your opinion.

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As far as main series games go, Viewtiful Joe was faithful to the trilogy thing. (granted, the third ended with a cliff hanger and Red Hot Rumble was out but I don't think that's series canon) I wish they would break the trilogy thing, though...

turtlethetaffer

I prefer spiritual successors personally. At worst, they can make Viewtiful Joe 0. What Halo is doing is just sad though.

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[QUOTE="Eponique"]I hate video games and how they totally poop on the word "trilogy". Most games that are supposed to be trilogies are never trilogies...turtlethetaffer

As far as main series games go, Viewtiful Joe was faithful to the trilogy thing. (granted, the third ended with a cliff hanger and Red Hot Rumble was out but I don't think that's series canon) I wish they would break the trilogy thing, though...

There was a Viewtiful Joe 3? No way brah. It's 1 and 2 and then Red Hot Rumble. Then Clover went under and now Capcom will never make a sequel because they hate good games. :P

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[QUOTE="AgentConker"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"]yeah i agree halo and bungie are so overrated, bungie needs to step up their game and learn from infinity ward halo was once the fps king and now its just a forgotten series almost no one talks aboutThe_RedLion
Bungie is no longer making Halo and Plenty of people talk about Halo....

that's good news maybe 343 can bring halo back to glory

You sir.....wow

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#126 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Eponique"]I hate video games and how they totally poop on the word "trilogy". Most games that are supposed to be trilogies are never trilogies...NeonNinja

As far as main series games go, Viewtiful Joe was faithful to the trilogy thing. (granted, the third ended with a cliff hanger and Red Hot Rumble was out but I don't think that's series canon) I wish they would break the trilogy thing, though...

There was a Viewtiful Joe 3? No way brah. It's 1 and 2 and then Red Hot Rumble. Then Clover went under and now Capcom will never make a sequel because they hate good games. :P

There was one on DS called Double Trouble. Not quite up to series standard (not alot of replay value) but still a fun action game.

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#127 viper-kid
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Is that really all you play? Missing out on some great games.

turtlethetaffer

No thats my main fix I get other games too. lol like this I m getting all the heavy hitters. I m more hardcore on PC with total war, civilization, simcity and so on. But console is for relaxing and Cod does it best IMO.

CoD isn't relaxing. That's just your opinion.

Like I said 'IMO'. lol
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#128 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

As far as main series games go, Viewtiful Joe was faithful to the trilogy thing. (granted, the third ended with a cliff hanger and Red Hot Rumble was out but I don't think that's series canon) I wish they would break the trilogy thing, though...

turtlethetaffer

There was a Viewtiful Joe 3? No way brah. It's 1 and 2 and then Red Hot Rumble. Then Clover went under and now Capcom will never make a sequel because they hate good games. :P

There was one on DS called Double Trouble. Not quite up to series standard (not alot of replay value) but still a fun action game.

Oh. See, that flew right over my head because I don't play handheld games. :P

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#129 walkingdream
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

As far as main series games go, Viewtiful Joe was faithful to the trilogy thing. (granted, the third ended with a cliff hanger and Red Hot Rumble was out but I don't think that's series canon) I wish they would break the trilogy thing, though...

Eponique

I prefer spiritual successors personally. At worst, they can make Viewtiful Joe 0. What Halo is doing is just sad though.

What? How the hell is it Sad?

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#130 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] No thats my main fix I get other games too. lol like this I m getting all the heavy hitters. I m more hardcore on PC with total war, civilization, simcity and so on. But console is for relaxing and Cod does it best IMO.viper-kid

CoD isn't relaxing. That's just your opinion.

Like I said 'IMO'. lol

And IMo and many others, Cod isn't great, simply decent. What's your point?

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#131 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="AgentConker"] Bungie is no longer making Halo and Plenty of people talk about Halo....walkingdream

that's good news maybe 343 can bring halo back to glory

You sir.....wow

Leave them be my friend. Not everyone can be one of the chosen acolytes of the Chief. Leave them be.

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#132 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

There was a Viewtiful Joe 3? No way brah. It's 1 and 2 and then Red Hot Rumble. Then Clover went under and now Capcom will never make a sequel because they hate good games. :P

NeonNinja

There was one on DS called Double Trouble. Not quite up to series standard (not alot of replay value) but still a fun action game.

Oh. See, that flew right over my head because I don't play handheld games. :P

Missing out, man. Amazing games on there.

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#133 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Why are people buying Cod , which SW says is inferior? Think about it, its not because of price, like the Mc Ds vs restaurant or wii vs ps3 which have different pricing, all the games are the sale price. viper-kid

Because people like it, yes. Doesn't mean it is higher quality.

Just compare McDonalds to an obscure four star restaraunt, which one would you say is more popular and gets more customers? Which one would you say has higher quality?

Pricing is a major factor in that were as games are the same price...

True, there is a reason for people wanting Mickey D's over the restaraunt.

Thereis aklwayws a reason for something being popular, but that reason isn't always going to have anything to do with quality. For many, the reason they bought Call of Duty is because they know their friends have it. Along with that, people may just buy Call of Duty because all of the COOL kids play it, so therefor many kids buy it in a silly attempt to feel cool. and just buy it so they can play with them. For some they may just like the "realism" in CoD, which is fine, but realism isn't superior to any other kind of style. All reasons why people would buy CoD, but none that really have anything to do with actual quality.

Really, it's much more complex to analyze a game's or anything's popularity really just by sales, because some people may buy things for the wrong reasons, like, again, when kids want to just "fit in." And with the McDonalds argument, more people bought McDonalds not because it is higher quality, but because it is cheaper. Another reason to buy something that ignores quality.

And I must wonder, if you really think popularity = quality, than do you also think that Justin Bieber is one of the best musicians out there in this day? Do you believe that the Twilight series is one of the best book series of this generation?

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#134 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

There was one on DS called Double Trouble. Not quite up to series standard (not alot of replay value) but still a fun action game.

turtlethetaffer

Oh. See, that flew right over my head because I don't play handheld games. :P

Missing out, man. Amazing games on there.

Yeah I know. Stuff like The World Ends With You for instance looks really awesome. But I just can't bring myself to purchase another system. I'm more than fulfilled with my two consoles and two PCs (one's old, the other is new). That and with an impending phone purchase (probably iPhone) I just can't stomach a handheld.

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#135 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Oh. See, that flew right over my head because I don't play handheld games. :P

NeonNinja

Missing out, man. Amazing games on there.

Yeah I know. Stuff like The World Ends With You for instance looks really awesome. But I just can't bring myself to purchase another system. I'm more than fulfilled with my two consoles and two PCs (one's old, the other is new). That and with an impending phone purchase (probably iPhone) I just can't stomach a handheld.

That's understandable. Just know that there are some great games on handhelds.

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#136 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Because people like it, yes. Doesn't mean it is higher quality.

Just compare McDonalds to an obscure four star restaraunt, which one would you say is more popular and gets more customers? Which one would you say has higher quality?

DJ-Lafleur

Pricing is a major factor in that were as games are the same price...

True, there is a reason for people wanting Mickey D's over the restaraunt.

Thereis aklwayws a reason for something being popular, but that reason isn't always going to have anything to do with quality. For many, the reason they bought Call of Duty is because they know their friends have it. Along with that, people may just buy Call of Duty because all of the COOL kids play it, so therefor many kids buy it in a silly attempt to feel cool. and just buy it so they can play with them. For some they may just like the "realism" in CoD, which is fine, but realism isn't superior to any other kind of style. All reasons why people would buy CoD, but none that really have anything to do with actual quality.

Really, it's much more complex to analyze a game's or anything's popularity really just by sales, because some people may buy things for the wrong reasons, like, again, when kids want to just "fit in." And with the McDonalds argument, more people bought McDonalds not because it is higher quality, but because it is cheaper. Another reason to buy something that ignores quality.

And I must wonder, if you really think popularity = quality, than do you also think that Justin Bieber is one of the best musicians out there in this day? Do you believe that the Twilight series is one of the best book series of this generation?

Whoa. Hey. A lot of girls tell me that the Twilight books are addicting but that the movies ruined EVERYTHING. Now I didn't read Twilight and I know you sure as hell didn't either my friend. Therefore we are not bagging on Twilight.

Yeah. That just happened.

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#137 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Missing out, man. Amazing games on there.

turtlethetaffer

Yeah I know. Stuff like The World Ends With You for instance looks really awesome. But I just can't bring myself to purchase another system. I'm more than fulfilled with my two consoles and two PCs (one's old, the other is new). That and with an impending phone purchase (probably iPhone) I just can't stomach a handheld.

That's understandable. Just know that there are some great games on handhelds.

Oh yeah, I've known it and I've considered between a DS and PSP multiple times. But when its time to commit I just can't. I'd be crazy to tell you I'm not excited for Luigi's Mansion 2, because I've been waiting for a sequel to that game for 10 freaking years. And what do Nintendo do? Put it on the 3DS.... :(

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#138 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Yeah I know. Stuff like The World Ends With You for instance looks really awesome. But I just can't bring myself to purchase another system. I'm more than fulfilled with my two consoles and two PCs (one's old, the other is new). That and with an impending phone purchase (probably iPhone) I just can't stomach a handheld.

NeonNinja

That's understandable. Just know that there are some great games on handhelds.

Oh yeah, I've known it and I've considered between a DS and PSP multiple times. But when its time to commit I just can't. I'd be crazy to tell you I'm not excited for Luigi's Mansion 2, because I've been waiting for a sequel to that game for 10 freaking years. And what do Nintendo do? Put it on the 3DS.... :(

Well, like I said, it's understandable that you don't have one. And yeah, I am PUMPED for LM2. I played the first one 7 times before I sold it. (Don't know why I ever did.)

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#139 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Uh... OK.

I don't know what else to tell you my man. NeonNinja just suggests the games that people should play. In fact, I'm finishing up Shogo and I've got playthroughs of FarCry and Duke Nukem 3D going on as well. lightwarrior and I have Christened September as the month to play badass shooters. :P

NeonNinja

You guys made September the "Play Badass Shooters Month" and NO ONE TOLD ME?! :evil:

Yo, DL. There's something I gotta tell you.

Septemer is the "Play Badass Shooters Month." You might wanna consider playing some badass shooters.... cuz, uh, y'know, that's what September is all about...... >_>;

I guess I'd better get on that, then. Good thing Duke 3D was $2.99 on GOG this weekend.
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#140 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Pricing is a major factor in that were as games are the same price...NeonNinja

True, there is a reason for people wanting Mickey D's over the restaraunt.

Thereis aklwayws a reason for something being popular, but that reason isn't always going to have anything to do with quality. For many, the reason they bought Call of Duty is because they know their friends have it. Along with that, people may just buy Call of Duty because all of the COOL kids play it, so therefor many kids buy it in a silly attempt to feel cool. and just buy it so they can play with them. For some they may just like the "realism" in CoD, which is fine, but realism isn't superior to any other kind of style. All reasons why people would buy CoD, but none that really have anything to do with actual quality.

Really, it's much more complex to analyze a game's or anything's popularity really just by sales, because some people may buy things for the wrong reasons, like, again, when kids want to just "fit in." And with the McDonalds argument, more people bought McDonalds not because it is higher quality, but because it is cheaper. Another reason to buy something that ignores quality.

And I must wonder, if you really think popularity = quality, than do you also think that Justin Bieber is one of the best musicians out there in this day? Do you believe that the Twilight series is one of the best book series of this generation?

Whoa. Hey. A lot of girls tell me that the Twilight books are addicting but that the movies ruined EVERYTHING. Now I didn't read Twilight and I know you sure as hell didn't either my friend. Therefore we are not bagging on Twilight.

Yeah. That just happened.

:/

I wasn't really trying to say twilight Was good or bad, I hardly give a crap about it really. BUt Twilight is very unpopular to anybody who isn't a girl and to anybodyon the internet, so I figured I would use it to see if I could detect any hypocrisy.

ALTHOUGH YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T SERIOUS so whatever.

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#141 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] You guys made September the "Play Badass Shooters Month" and NO ONE TOLD ME?! :evil:DarkLink77

Yo, DL. There's something I gotta tell you.

Septemer is the "Play Badass Shooters Month." You might wanna consider playing some badass shooters.... cuz, uh, y'know, that's what September is all about...... >_>;

I guess I'd better get on that, then. Good thing Duke 3D was $2.99 on GOG this weekend.

How you thunk I bought it brah? 8)

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#142 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

True, there is a reason for people wanting Mickey D's over the restaraunt.

Thereis aklwayws a reason for something being popular, but that reason isn't always going to have anything to do with quality. For many, the reason they bought Call of Duty is because they know their friends have it. Along with that, people may just buy Call of Duty because all of the COOL kids play it, so therefor many kids buy it in a silly attempt to feel cool. and just buy it so they can play with them. For some they may just like the "realism" in CoD, which is fine, but realism isn't superior to any other kind of style. All reasons why people would buy CoD, but none that really have anything to do with actual quality.

Really, it's much more complex to analyze a game's or anything's popularity really just by sales, because some people may buy things for the wrong reasons, like, again, when kids want to just "fit in." And with the McDonalds argument, more people bought McDonalds not because it is higher quality, but because it is cheaper. Another reason to buy something that ignores quality.

And I must wonder, if you really think popularity = quality, than do you also think that Justin Bieber is one of the best musicians out there in this day? Do you believe that the Twilight series is one of the best book series of this generation?

DJ-Lafleur

Whoa. Hey. A lot of girls tell me that the Twilight books are addicting but that the movies ruined EVERYTHING. Now I didn't read Twilight and I know you sure as hell didn't either my friend. Therefore we are not bagging on Twilight.

Yeah. That just happened.

:/

I wasn't really trying to say twilight Was good or bad, I hardly give a crap about it really. BUt Twilight is very unpopular to anybody who isn't a girl and to anybodyon the internet, so I figured I would use it to see if I could detect any hypocrisy.

ALTHOUGH YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T SERIOUS so whatever.

Deathly serious, actually. :|

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#143 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Whoa. Hey. A lot of girls tell me that the Twilight books are addicting but that the movies ruined EVERYTHING. Now I didn't read Twilight and I know you sure as hell didn't either my friend. Therefore we are not bagging on Twilight.

Yeah. That just happened.

NeonNinja

:/

I wasn't really trying to say twilight Was good or bad, I hardly give a crap about it really. BUt Twilight is very unpopular to anybody who isn't a girl and to anybodyon the internet, so I figured I would use it to see if I could detect any hypocrisy.

ALTHOUGH YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T SERIOUS so whatever.

Deathly serious, actually. :|

Oh dear. :|:|:|

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#144 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

:/

I wasn't really trying to say twilight Was good or bad, I hardly give a crap about it really. BUt Twilight is very unpopular to anybody who isn't a girl and to anybodyon the internet, so I figured I would use it to see if I could detect any hypocrisy.

ALTHOUGH YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T SERIOUS so whatever.

DJ-Lafleur

Deathly serious, actually. :|

Oh dear. :|:|:|

Question: Team Jacob or Team Edward?

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#145 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Yo, DL. There's something I gotta tell you.

Septemer is the "Play Badass Shooters Month." You might wanna consider playing some badass shooters.... cuz, uh, y'know, that's what September is all about...... >_>;

NeonNinja

I guess I'd better get on that, then. Good thing Duke 3D was $2.99 on GOG this weekend.

How you thunk I bought it brah? 8)

Good man. 8) Did you mod it or are you playing it vanilla?
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#146 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I guess I'd better get on that, then. Good thing Duke 3D was $2.99 on GOG this weekend.DarkLink77

How you thunk I bought it brah? 8)

Good man. 8) Did you mod it or are you playing it vanilla?

Vanilla. I figure if I go through it again I might mod it then, but it's fun in vanilla form as it is.

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#147 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

How you thunk I bought it brah? 8)

NeonNinja

Good man. 8) Did you mod it or are you playing it vanilla?

Vanilla. I figure if I go through it again I might mod it then, but it's fun in vanilla form as it is.

Yeah, it is. There are some really nice mods for it, though. The Duke Nukem modding community is huge, and very talented.
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#148 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Good man. 8) Did you mod it or are you playing it vanilla?DarkLink77

Vanilla. I figure if I go through it again I might mod it then, but it's fun in vanilla form as it is.

Yeah, it is. There are some really nice mods for it, though. The Duke Nukem modding community is huge, and very talented.

Well I may just check them out depending on how the game pans out for me. I do see myself enjoying it regardless. I'm even being crazy and playing it with the default control scheme. I remember when I played stuff like Wolf3D and Doom II: Hell on Earth like this. God what a terrible control layout, but I really want this to be authentic. :P

Of course with Duke, it's a Doom-styIe shooter so you don't look up. When it came to Shogo I immediately gave it a modern control scheme just because enemies can fire from anywhere.

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#149 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Deathly serious, actually. :|

NeonNinja

Oh dear. :|:|:|

Question: Team Jacob or Team Edward?

Gotta give it to Jacob.The guy rips off his shirt. :0

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#150 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Oh dear. :|:|:|

DJ-Lafleur

Question: Team Jacob or Team Edward?

Gotta give it to Jacob.The guy rips off his shirt. :0

Holy crap, he does? No wonderda womenzlikeit so much.