5 Words Misused in System Wars

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#1 marioraider
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Hello.

Many fanboys/haters/crazy people try to sound convincing and intellegent with their posts, inorder to win over some users to prove the opposing poster wrong. However, what drives me insane, is how these people use WORDS WRONG! Seriously! Whatever, here are the words/ideas that I see gets used wrong the most.

1) LOGIC: Logic, Logic, Logic. Your logic is flawed, you lack logic, that post was illogical, etc. When people use this word out of context, I cringe, I want to smash my keyboard against my face, and stab the keys into my eyes.

Lo-gic -

1.the science that investigates the principles governing correct or reliable inference. 2.a particular method of reasoning or argumentation: We were unable to follow his logic. 3.the system or principles of reasoning applicable to any branch of knowledge or study. 4.reason or sound judgment, as in utterances or actions: There wasn't much logic in her move. 5.convincing forcefulness; inexorable truth or persuasiveness: the irresistible logic of the facts.

READ THIS. UNDERSTAND. If the post of a user is understandable, and you can understand where this person is coming from, then it's logic. YOU JUST CANT SAY "ur no logical lol".

2) /THREAD: A thread doesn't have to end just because you say so, if you don't like where things are going, then leave. That just means that you can't defend your own argument, or you must stink at debate. Or, of course, it can be used in just friendly or harmless talk, and that's OK. But now when your hopeless in a debate.

3) U FAIL LOL: No one fails, no one loses, it's their opinion on the subject. You just can't blatantly say, "u failz". At least give a reason, and a good one at that.

4) OWNED: I have seen people say owned for things that were not owned worthy. Many, many times. This is just a timing thing, and if someone says something coherent, and (sigh) LOGICAL, u don't say "owned, ur such a N00B, ur logic is flawed, u fail, /thread. People just say owned to make them feel like they did something good, and/or funny, when in the end, all they did was make a fool out of themselves.

5) Kiddy: Many people call systems, games kiddy, just so people think it's too babyish for one person so he/she will think that the game sucks just because it's for kids, and not REAL HARDCORE fat 256 pound geeks. Now, this word may not be used incorrectly, but it's used when it's not supposed to be used, and in short, shouldn't be used at all.

Ok, well I hope this helped.

Bring it on *equips armor and weapons*

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#2 a_ratchet_fan
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you're forgetting one word: port.
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#3 ELJUDEZ
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you're forgetting one word: port.a_ratchet_fan
One more: Official
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#4 deactivated-5f89ab8e63049
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Yup, I'd agree with pretty much all of those.

One thing I think is overused (whichis sort of a form of misuse... maybe...)is when people do that damn "bu bu TEH CELL!!11!!" or something similar. It's just utterly pointless and annoying.

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#5 nyoroism
Member since 2007 • 3778 Posts

I would like to take this time to tell people one of the things I hate most.

That's when somebody says something about a game, and the guy replies "I could care less".

Stop saying that. If you could care less, you would be! The correct term is you couldn't care less!

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#6 marioraider
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Yup, I'd agree with pretty much all of those.

One thing I think is overused (whichis sort of a form of misuse... maybe...)is when people do that damn "bu bu TEH CELL!!11!!" or something similar. It's just utterly pointless and annoying.

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Well, thats just funny,. Pointless and annoying yes, but funny :P

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#7 reyad-u
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theres also fad and exclusivity not to mention sales, theres quite alot more if anyone bother to check but that would be a waste of time.
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#8 SpruceCaboose
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This is important why?

And I can say someone fails all I want, because if they are trying to prove an invalid point, and I show them the fallacy in their logic, then they failed at their goal.

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#9 deangallop
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I see a lot of people missuse the word generic.
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#10 Eponique
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[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"]you're forgetting one word: port.ELJUDEZ
One more: Official

This might not be a word but: tbhq imo fact :D

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#11 Acemaster27
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Ur thread is the fail.

Except for the word kiddy. That does need to go.

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#12 _Captain_Ahab_
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You forgot Bias...
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#13 hazardbarzard
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Here's another: CONFRIMED

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#14 marioraider
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Ur thread is the fail.

Except for the word kiddy. That does need to go.

Acemaster27

So your ok with people using these words incorrectly? And creating more pointless arguments with it?

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#15 Blitz_Nemesis
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Do you really think that you are going to change they way people are using words/phrases in SW with this thread? You must Lack Logic :D, This thread is Kiddy :), U Fail LOL :lol:, You just got OWNED :P, Now /Thread 8)
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#16 Sparky04
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I see a lot of people missuse the word generic.deangallop

I know people can just pick any game and say this just looks like another genric "insert genre here."

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#17 ELJUDEZ
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Here's another: CONFRIMED

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Good one :)
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#18 Ninja-Vox
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you're forgetting one word: port.a_ratchet_fan

Yes! I was going to say that. So many people whine about PC ports who clearly dont even know what a port is.

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#20 Mystery_Writer
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calm down man :)

/thread may continue :P

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#21 marioraider
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Do you really think that you are going to change they way people are using words/phrases in SW with this thread? You must Lack Logic :D, This thread is Kiddy :), U Fail LOL :lol:, You just got OWNED :P, Now /Thread 8)Blitz_Nemesis

I just wanted to inform some people, and it's working. And idk if that was serious or sarcasm.

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#22 Ninja-Vox
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I really hate when people make a point which is highly debateable only to say "/thread" as if no discussion can be made. It really annoys me.

"/thread" was something which was once used when the original post has been completely annihilated in a way which cannoy be further argued. The thread is literally over.

Now people post their opinion which can be instantly rebuttled, only to throw "/thread" on the end. You should get modded for it.

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#23 Eponique
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lol wut terrible logic, u fail, u and ur kiddy avatar have been owned

/thread

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#24 marioraider
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calm down man :)

/thread may continue :P

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#25 marioraider
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I really hate when people make a point which is highly debateable only to say "/thread" as if no discussion can be made. It really annoys me.

"/thread" was something which was once used when the original post has been completely annihilated in a way which cannoy be further argued. The thread is literally over.

Now people post their opinion which can be instantly rebuttled, only to throw "/thread" on the end. You should get modded for it.

Ninja-Vox

Wait, me getting modded? Or the people saying /thread?

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#26 Acemaster27
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[QUOTE="Acemaster27"]

Ur thread is the fail.

Except for the word kiddy. That does need to go.

marioraider

So your ok with people using these words incorrectly? And creating more pointless arguments with it?

I do believe that that is the point of system wars.

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#27 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

This is important why?

And I can say someone fails all I want, because if they are trying to prove an invalid point, and I show them the fallacy in their logic, then they failed at their goal.

marioraider

Just to inform the stupid, that's all. And if people are saying that they fail, when the person is presenting a vaild argument, then it just starts more stupid arguments.

Ok, I'll give you that. Now...

/thread! (Sorry, had to do it! :D )

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#28 hamstergeddon
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You fail lol TC!

/thread :P
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#29 marioraider
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[QUOTE="marioraider"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

This is important why?

And I can say someone fails all I want, because if they are trying to prove an invalid point, and I show them the fallacy in their logic, then they failed at their goal.

SpruceCaboose

Just to inform the stupid, that's all. And if people are saying that they fail, when the person is presenting a vaild argument, then it just starts more stupid arguments.

Ok, I'll give you that. Now...

/thread! (Sorry, had to do it! :D )

:lol: It's ok. I actually want the thread to keep going to see what other people think.

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#30 Blitz_Nemesis
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lol wut terrible logic, u fail, u and ur kiddy avatar have been owned

/thread

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I BET YOU TO IT!!!!!
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#31 marioraider
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[QUOTE="marioraider"][QUOTE="Acemaster27"]

Ur thread is the fail.

Except for the word kiddy. That does need to go.

Acemaster27

So your ok with people using these words incorrectly? And creating more pointless arguments with it?

I do believe that that is the point of system wars.

Sadly, it is.

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#32 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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I would say the most misproperly used term on SW is OVERRATED. And here's why.

You get this blockbuster game that comes out, the one with all the hot buzz. And it scores an average of say 92%, getting lots of 9's, and some 10's and 8's which gives you it's 92% average. Basically what would be regarded as a highly praised and successful game. So the gamers of a competing platform see this, they just can't stand seeing success on the competition, the boards are flooded with the threads of how "overrated" this game is.

So why is that flawed? Other than the obvious, they are fanboys motive, you just have to look at the meaning of the word, which is "to rate above its actual merits". But how is the games worth, its merits, its "rating", determined to begin with? By the MAJORITY OF REVIEWS, which reflects a consensus of how this game is measured. Since the majority of reviews gave the game a high score, it can't be considered overrated, as its rating is determined by the sum of all these scores. It's labeling "great" or terrible" by consensus.

The only proper way to apply overrated is if a majority of reviews say 7's, and just 1 or 2 give it a 9+, those few have overrated what the majority said is an average game.

And just to be clear, this isn't to say we can't all have our opinion or that everybody has to like the game. If someone doesn't, they should just say, "I don't like it" or "it's not my bag", but they can't say it's "overrated". The difference being, the former reflects just their own opinion, the latter is them challenging the opinion of everybody else who has the consensus that the game is great.

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#33 Krisgebis
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I can't believe you left out this little word, when listing words which were being misused in SW: FACT
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#34 cakeorrdeath
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The most missused words in system wars are FACT and PROOF (yes normally capitalised). I have never seen these words in a title and found either to be contained in the subsequent post.
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#35 D0013ER
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Can we add, "overrated" to the list?
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#36 slothboyadvance
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Your logic phails! You just got owned you kiddy noob. /Thread /Sarcasm
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#37 naval
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nowadays, a 'myth that needs to be busted' is also quite horribly used
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#38 whoisryanmack
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I disagree with all of it.

1. I can make an understandable argument that just isn't logical. In this context, when someone says "that isn't logical", what they mean is....the conclusion you've drawn from the evidence presented is not satisfactory. In other words, it's poor logic.

2. /thread of course does not mean the thread should actually be locked and ended. It means, "this information I've presented proves all cases of your argument untrue". It just takes less time to write.

3. You can fail at everything. They are most definitely winners and most definitely losers in every debate.

4. You can of course be owned. If you're proven incorrect to the degree that it's actually funny...you're owned.

5. Being that kiddy is an actual word, I'm not sure how we can disprove this one or say it is used incorrectly.

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#39 funnymario
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You missed port, innovation, official, generic.
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#40 Hexagon_777
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None of those are comparable to "fad". That must be the most miused word in System Wars ever, I mean, people call the Wii a fad...Like...Dude, over 9 months is not a fad. A fad would be the PS3. It was really popular at the beginning but died off rather quickly, hence making it a fad.
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#41 leejohnson7
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Fact is one you should add.

But Kiddy is one you should take down. The people trying to argue against that are justifying playing with action men at an older age. We aren't saying its not possible for you to do so, but it isn't mature now is it (and try to prove your point by making adult content sound imature is very sad, the reason you think gta is kiddy is because "kiddies" desire things that older people are able to have generally, booze, cigerettes etc. but that doesn't make them kiddy).

Thats just me.

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#42 Sully28
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you should add exclusive to that list.
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#43 PBSnipes
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The most mis-used word in SW is by far casual. Casual refers to the amount of time you spend gaming. I consider my self casual because I rarely spend more than 5-7 hours gaming a week, but my favourite games are Deus Ex, Bioshock and Baldur's Gate 2. What most people mean when they say casual is non-gamer, which is completely different.

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#44 ithilgore2006
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Some others: "generic", "rehash", "gimmick" and "flop". All of those words are abused without relent.
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#45 Pro_wrestler
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Hello.

Many fanboys/haters/crazy people try to sound convincing and intellegent with their posts, inorder to win over some users to prove the opposing poster wrong. However, what drives me insane, is how these people use WORDS WRONG! Seriously! Whatever, here are the words/ideas that I see gets used wrong the most.

1) LOGIC: Logic, Logic, Logic. Your logic is flawed, you lack logic, that post was illogical, etc. When people use this word out of context, I cringe, I want to smash my keyboard against my face, and stab the keys into my eyes.

Lo-gic -

1.the science that investigates the principles governing correct or reliable inference. 2.a particular method of reasoning or argumentation: We were unable to follow his logic. 3.the system or principles of reasoning applicable to any branch of knowledge or study. 4.reason or sound judgment, as in utterances or actions: There wasn't much logic in her move. 5.convincing forcefulness; inexorable truth or persuasiveness: the irresistible logic of the facts.

READ THIS. UNDERSTAND. If the post of a user is understandable, and you can understand where this person is coming from, then it's logic. YOU JUST CANT SAY "ur no logical lol".

2) /THREAD: A thread doesn't have to end just because you say so, if you don't like where things are going, then leave. That just means that you can't defend your own argument, or you must stink at debate. Or, of course, it can be used in just friendly or harmless talk, and that's OK. But now when your hopeless in a debate.

3) U FAIL LOL: No one fails, no one loses, it's their opinion on the subject. You just can't blatantly say, "u failz". At least give a reason, and a good one at that.

4) OWNED: I have seen people say owned for things that were not owned worthy. Many, many times. This is just a timing thing, and if someone says something coherent, and (sigh) LOGICAL, u don't say "owned, ur such a N00B, ur logic is flawed, u fail, /thread. People just say owned to make them feel like they did something good, and/or funny, when in the end, all they did was make a fool out of themselves.

5) Kiddy: Many people call systems, games kiddy, just so people think it's too babyish for one person so he/she will think that the game sucks just because it's for kids, and not REAL HARDCORE fat 256 pound geeks. Now, this word may not be used incorrectly, but it's used when it's not supposed to be used, and in short, shouldn't be used at all.

Ok, well I hope this helped.

Bring it on *equips armor and weapons*

marioraider

Here are a series of words that you are forgetting..

"Just because I make a thread pointing out the inconsistancies of SW doesn't make me right"

Seriously, these threads have been done to death and just because you have a logical/deep opinion behind what your saying doesn't mean your correct here on System Wars. So, I deem this thread a failure because it does not meet System Wars bi-laws and therefore is to meaningful to mean squat here and I consider you owned.

Also, "You fail" & "Owned" are one in the same. The definition of ownage here on System Wars is when a person or persons make false statements or misconceptions about [Topic]/[Person]/[Thing] and then being proven wrong thus ownage ensues.

Also Also, You cant misconstrue what a "hardcore" is by calling them 253lb fat geeks and then complain about the misuse or misinterpretation of what "kiddy" is. You fail once again good sir.

These types of threads conflict with the very essence of System Wars, it questions the driving force behind all things stupidity. If it wasn't for System Wars we all would feel less of ourselves because the threads here are so damn thin and illcontructed that it makes most of us look like geniuses.

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#46 NerdMan
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned "exclusive." Some people have a hard time coming to terms that if a game is available on more than one system it isn't exclusive. "Console exclusive" and "Microsoft exclusive" are both rubbish. It's either exclusive or it's not.
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#47 TTDog
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Add the phrase "Future Proof"... only if there are no advances in gaming technology ever again is any console future proof, or have Sony invented a way to upgrade out of date hardware via a firmware update?
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#48 tegovoltio
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I agree with those, except the owned part. Ppl actually get owned here when proven wrong.

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#49 Dopemonk736
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1. OVERRATED:Just because a game is good and is on the opposite console, it does not in fact mean that it is "overrated".

2. OWNED:

CONTEXT: "you hyped that game AAA and it only got AA, OWNED!" "omg, that guy just killed you with his grenade, OWNED!" "dude, I OWNED you on that last level", said Johnny.

It is in fact impossible to "own" someone, seeing as it is illegal to hold people as slaves.

to own: to hold possession of an object in your name

3. KTHXBAI

definition: none/unknown

"kthxbai" is actually not a word at all, therefore it is invalid as a use in a sentence.

"kthxbai" is not actually found in the dictionary so it is invalid as a use at the end of a sentence. Many scientists have tried to decipher this word, coming up with nothing.

4. Mudkipz

context: "do yu liek mudkipz" "I heard Timmy lieks mudkipz"

definition: WTF

hmm, I actually don't know wtf this is, so let's move on

5. Lemming/Cow/Manticore/Hermit

Lemming: a small rodent, generally having a small brain, feasts on grain and bits of string.

Cow: A common type of livestock, generally residing in North America, feasts on grasses and flowers.

Manticore: A mythical creature, consisting of a mixture of a lion, dragon, and a bird.

Hermit: Deriving from the animal known as the "hermit crab". The hermit crab resides in a small shell and lives in its natural habitat on the beach/in the ocean.

Commonly used as names on gaming forums generally describing owners of different gaming consoles, most usually dumb and possessing small brains.

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#50 marioraider
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System War bi-laws? What is this a government? System Wars has it's rules, but really, almost everyone doesn't obey them. And why would we not want to have conversations that made sense? Do you want people coming on and saying empty insults that just make everything worse? People can use those words and phrases, but I was just complaining that people use them in the wrong way.

"You fail" and "owned" COULD mean the same thing, but in many situations, it doesn't.

The "hardcore" statement was only to mock people that think kiddy games are only for the true gamers. I do not think hardcores are fat geeks. But hey, who knows?

I'm just trying to get people to think about what System Wars is now, how it's been reduced to complete moronc status. Most threads are pointless, and are just empty insults on one thing to another. Some people actually create threads that are interesting and bring up good arguments. That what we need on System Wars. We can still use these phrases, but not in a demeaning and stupifying way.