60 fps is a must for games

But it's not a "must".

Meh, never really cared for FPS (not the genre :P) in fact, i don't even noticed it, i played and loved Bayonetta on the PS3 and allegedly it only ran at 30FPS, honestly, never cared and the game was my 2010 GOTY.

This is all relative, if all consoles could render was 15fps they would say 30fps is not a must, they are only saying its not necessary because they havent seen it.

This is all relative, if all consoles could render was 15fps they would say 30fps is not a must, they are only saying its not necessary because they havent seen it.

NanoMan88

You seem to like the word disgust a lot.

60FPS is not a necessity... It may be for you, but you =/= everybody.

not a necessity for me.Most games look fine and servicable with 30fps.

only genre to really bother bout FPS imo is fighters.

framerate/resolution > detail

I love all aspects of graphics, but yeah a game locked at 60 FPS with high resolution and AA cranked looks great even for old games (Counterstrike 1.6).

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This is all relative, if all consoles could render was 15fps they would say 30fps is not a must, they are only saying its not necessary because they havent seen it.

Randoggy

Actually no they wouldnt cause most console games run at 30fps, so they wouldnt know the difference. For consoles its all right because their games run at 30fps and everyone runs at 30fps, however once you see games in the longterm at 60fps, you will not be able to downgrade to 30fps. Just as how you wouldnt want to play a 15fps, please do not comment on something you have never experienced.

I don't know what FPS my games run at on my PC, but I don't notice a difference between them and my console games other than slight visual upgrades.

Our eyes can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 Frames per second. They are not a must. They are just a bragging point.

What is it with PC gamers and graphics ? all I ever hear them talk about is framerate, visuals and modding the game to make it more polished.

its as if they don't actual care about the game itself ... just how it performs.

Our eyes can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 Frames per second. They are not a must. They are just a bragging point.

Hobbsey07

Edit: ---searching for the evidence!---

http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html

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Our eyes can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 Frames per second. They are not a must. They are just a bragging point.

Hobbsey07

Your statement is completely untrue, many peopel can tell the difference between 30 and 60fps, there was was some cube gif on here a while ago which displayed 15, 30 and 60fps and tons of the people in the thread could see the difference between 30 and 60.

What is it with PC gamers and graphics ? all I ever hear them talk about is framerate, visuals and modding the game to make it more polished.

its as if they don't actual care about the game itself ... just how it performs.

rasengan2552

Yes, because console gamers never compare minute differences between multiplats and exclusives. A lot of gamers are obsessed with graphics... It's not endemic to a particular fanboy group.

i seen your post activity and u seem to have a penchant for pushing your own opinions aggressively. and you like to say "sicken" and "disgust" a lot lol. take a chill pill its jus gaming

What is it with PC gamers and graphics ? all I ever hear them talk about is framerate, visuals and modding the game to make it more polished.

its as if they don't actual care about the game itself ... just how it performs.

rasengan2552

Funny you said that since every thread in system wars is does x game look better on 360 or ps3, or console gfx king. Also I dont know why you would think mods are only gfx mods but they also deal with adding extra content such as quests, weapons or equipment to games.

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What is it with PC gamers and graphics ? all I ever hear them talk about is framerate, visuals and modding the game to make it more polished.

its as if they don't actual care about the game itself ... just how it performs.

lundy86_4

Yes, because console gamers never compare minute differences between multiplats and exclusives. A lot of gamers are obsessed with graphics... It's not endemic to a particular fanboy group.

um its not a must for games its a nice option in some games but others its not needed at all RTS don't need 60 fps.

I agree with you TC, I can forgive it pretty easily so long as its a playable 30, but it should be a must. I would rather see a game look like crap in terms of detail with tearing all over the place and run at 60 then look glorious and run at 30. Every year that passes seems like it bugs me more and more actually.

At least give people the option to let them reach that threshold in all games. That means both options for framerate unlocking on consoles and enough options to get it there while playing a PC game at the minimum specs on the label. I don't know of a console game other than Bioshock that let's you make that choice though (in that case its unlocking from 30), and half the time a minimum spec PC label indicates the level you need in order to watch a slideshow.

I don't understand how people can not notice. With 60 everything moves smoothly, with 30 it simply doesn't, not in shooters, not in racing games, not in fighters, not in RPGs. Other than puzzle games I think its highly noticable in every genre.

I partially agree with you, mainly because consolites don't really care about the graphics, they just like to bash the other console's version of the game.rasengan2552

So they're only doing it to spite the other fanbase, rather than having an actual interest in the graphics? I doubt it.

after playing at over 100 for years, 30 isa total slideshow.

but, BUT. that's not the best advantage. it's the responsiveness of the controls and game. 30 feels bogged down and chugging.

Shooters need it

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Our eyes can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 Frames per second. They are not a must. They are just a bragging point.

Inconsistancy

Edit: ---searching for the evidence!---

http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html

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I stand corrected. Sorry for being ignorant. I probably should have done research on it, considering I only heard about this from a buddy and went with it.

im just glad nobody posted a Youtube comparison this time lol.

Lol ok, have fun upgrading your hardware every time a new powerhouse game comes out just because you can't play at 60FPS.bobbetybob

Or just decrease the detail because we all know gameplay > graphics and performance is much more benificial

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Lol ok, have fun upgrading your hardware every time a new powerhouse game comes out just because you can't play at 60FPS.The__Havoc

Or just decrease the detail because we all know gameplay > graphics and performance is much more benificial

This

People treat fps as a graphics feature when it actually has more to do with gameplay.

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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Lol ok, have fun upgrading your hardware every time a new powerhouse game comes out just because you can't play at 60FPS.NanoMan88

Or just decrease the detail because we all know gameplay > graphics and performance is much more benificial

This

People treat fps as a graphics feature when it actually has more to do with gameplay.

No....not even close.

Our eyes can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 Frames per second. They are not a must. They are just a bragging point.

Hobbsey07

call an optometrist bro

[QUOTE="Randoggy"][QUOTE="NanoMan88"]

This is all relative, if all consoles could render was 15fps they would say 30fps is not a must, they are only saying its not necessary because they havent seen it.

NanoMan88

Actually no they wouldnt cause most console games run at 30fps, so they wouldnt know the difference. For consoles its all right because their games run at 30fps and everyone runs at 30fps, however once you see games in the longterm at 60fps, you will not be able to downgrade to 30fps. Just as how you wouldnt want to play a 15fps, please do not comment on something you have never experienced.

You do know that their are console games that run at 60 fps, right?

In a day and age were games can be played at 120FPS I don't understand why people continue to be obsessed with 60FPS, and not only that, also pick on people who use 30FPS because it is inferior.:roll:

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[QUOTE="Randoggy"] Pretty sure anyone who has played a handful of video games will know the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS. It's not needed, would it be nice to have? Hells yes, but it's not needed. People complaining about this are just picky and retarded if you ask me.15strong

Actually no they wouldnt cause most console games run at 30fps, so they wouldnt know the difference. For consoles its all right because their games run at 30fps and everyone runs at 30fps, however once you see games in the longterm at 60fps, you will not be able to downgrade to 30fps. Just as how you wouldnt want to play a 15fps, please do not comment on something you have never experienced.

You do know that their are console games that run at 60 fps, right?

Nanoman said "most console games" :P

Our eyes can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 Frames per second. They are not a must. They are just a bragging point.

Hobbsey07

:roll:

Another person who doesn't know what they are talking about.

Educate yourself please.

Nah, all of the greatest games have no problem playing lower than 60 fps...and the greatest games are on consoles.TheMoreYouOwn

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Our eyes can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 Frames per second. They are not a must. They are just a bragging point.

Remmib

:roll:

Another person who doesn't know what they are talking about.

Educate yourself please.

I play at 30 FPS and i dont think so thats its mantadory for a video game to run at 60 FPS.

For consoles I'd say 40+ FPS is a must.Remmib

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[QUOTE="Hobbsey07"]

Our eyes can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 Frames per second. They are not a must. They are just a bragging point.

Inconsistancy

:roll:

Another person who doesn't know what they are talking about.

Educate yourself please.

Ah...sorry, just get annoyed by the epic amounts of ignorant drivel that gets spouted on SW.