60fps will never be the industry standard

Why should it be in the first place???

Never manage to cope with this mantra, if it's 60 fps then good, but 30 is not that bad either.

What matter to me is more a steady frame rate than the number of frames.

I refuted your misinformed statement. You have nothing to repeat. You just have to sit there and be wrong as I have demonstrated.

@pyro1245: no you didn't. It standstill that if it weren't for consoles, PC gamers wouldn't be able to keep up with the technology, you just have to accept it.

It never will be for consoles because too many people care about graphics over performance and to get the most out of a console you have to cap it at 30 fps. 60 will never be the standard unless it's a competitive multiplayer game like Halo. I got a prebuilt gaming rig with a 1060 3gb and after playing the Witcher 3 at 60fps there is no way I can play it at 30fps 4k on my X.

Now get 140 fps and a 144hz / gsync screen / 1ms screen. You will not be able to look at the choppy mess that's 30 fps with screentearing and input lag and high ms.

Console gaming has a long way to go.

Yes... at least not anytime soon. Graphics will always be prioritized because they sell games, especially shallow ones.

I don't remember the industry having 60 FPS ever. I mean, even when there were Doom clones, I could only count with my fingers how many of them were. Keep the industry at 10 FPS per generation please.

what I recall from around 1999 to well just a few years ago was many conversations with fellow gamers in real life about getting 60FPS as the target.

I have seen that stated many times in youtube videos and I have read many posts complaining about not hitting 60fps in forums of games i play.

You haven't read my post. I was joking about FPS being First Person Shooters :P

The new Play Station and Xbox will be minimum 4k 60FPS. As soon as that is affordable to mass produce we will see the next gen.

I've posted this many times before, but it is always relevant...

Nice comparison video...

The only time that I feel 30 FPS on console ruined the gameplay experience for me was multiplayer in Destiny 1. It just felt choppy and was hard to manage. Ironically, Destiny 2 at 4K on X1X at 30 FPS was much more enjoyable. I wonder what else besides the resolution was an improvement. Still, in my opinion shooters should be the last game to sacrifice solid 60 FPS.

I find 30 FPS on massive open world games like Witcher 3 or Assassins Creed Origins doesn’t ruin the experience. It’s fine. Optimal? No, but it’s definitely enjoyable. It just looks worse to someone who just got done watching 60 FPS. 30 FPS takes some eye adjustment.

I think that people forget about Halo 5: Guardians due to it not being the greatest game in the series.

Haha, your indignation amuses me. I'm probably just talking out of my @$$, but when I see games running at 60 (generally speaking) they look like they're floating on glass. Turning the camera looks unnaturally smooth compared to my own perception, game flora bounces and waves faster than what I would expect, and even driving has a floatly look too it. It's probably me just becoming accustomed to bad frame rate over the years, but I don't like it. Sorry if I ruffled your feathers.

Movies are the same with Hz. 60Hz looks cinematic to me, where 120Hz looks like I'm on the set. The visual fidelity is super crisp and clear, but I no longer feel like I'm watching a movie...I feel should be holding a boom mic.

Maybe the government doesn't want you to see what I'm talking about! I mean they won't let you near the "Ice Wall", so why would they let you see this? :)

There's no indignation just confusion, your comment had me scratching my head and wondering wtf you were talklng about? It's like the the old "human eyes can't see past 30Hz" or "you'll suffocate if you go faster than 30mph" nonsense. However you've explained it now and I'd agree that you've just become accustomed to poor frame rates.

To me 30 fps looks jittery, even 60 fps often isn't enough these days (i'm used to 80 - 144 fps), though it's generally fine on a TV.

What? A lot of the PS2/Xbox/GCN/Dreamcast games were 60 FPS back then, most notably the platformers.

Yup, not even 60fps can save a mediocre game.

@calvincfb: Not to sound like a f

@HYPERTiZ: No need to bump a two month old thread.

60hz is enough for 60fps u slukl.

@scatteh316:

calm down man this is internent dont get worked up about other opinion.

u acting like slukl.

No. Think about it TC. Last gen only CoD and RAGE aimed at 60fps on consoles. This gen we have most shooters, fighters, racers, sport games, multiplayer games, indies and even some open world games, running at that framerate.

It's obvious that 60fps standard on consoles is a matter of time. I believe right next gen.

You should still be able to get 60 fps with a 60 Hz TV or monitor.

@drserigala:

Console gamers aren't stupid so they know 60 fps Tetris looks better than 30 fps Fortnite. $200 30 fps sometimes 60 fps PS4>60 fps sometimes 61 fps $3000 PC

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@gwalcott: do not bump old threads