60+players in RFOM 2 will be a MESS.

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#1 Fuzzy_Munch
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It's already aimless clowns running around with no mics in a frag slaughter fest in RFOM1

So just imagine 2 with 60+ WOW can you say aimless slaughter fest.

By no means does 60+ translate into good online. In most cases it translates into frustration and team killing and just outright madness.

I was playing a 16+ player game of COD4 last night and we all had mics. And it was still a frag fest. Just an example.

Huge online player games have never been all that great. It's 99% of the time much funner with smaller managible groups with mics and using good stratigy.

So for 60+ ROFM 2 expect frustration and mindless chaos.

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#2 Anti-Gamer
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60 player will be fun, it will be like you're in a real war, just complete mess/chaos.
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#3 RK-Mara
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Battlefield disagrees with you. It's all about the size of the map.
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#4 aliblabla2007
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CoD4 maps are puny. we don't know how big RFOM 2 maps will be, so we can't say anything. Look at BF - 64 players on some maps won't feel that chaotic.
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#5 pro-nathan-07
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what about using the mic? isnt it going to be a bit chaotic having 30 people trying to communicate over each other?
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#6 Jack-o-Thompson
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it won't be that bad if the maps are done right. its not like theres gonna be a person every few steps you take lol!

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#7 Jack-o-Thompson
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also about the mic, not many ppl have one so its rare to even hear one. Thus, you should be fine if you want to talk to ppl through the room.
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It's already aimless clowns running around with no mics in a frag slaughter fest in RFOM1

So just imagine 2 with 60+ WOW can you say aimless slaughter fest.

By no means does 60+ translate into good online. In most cases it translates into frustration and team killing and just outright madness.

I was playing a 16+ player game of COD4 last night and we all had mics. And it was still a frag fest. Just an example.

Huge online player games have never been all that great. It's 99% of the time much funner with smaller managible groups with mics and using good stratigy.

So for 60+ ROFM 2 expect frustration and mindless chaos.

Fuzzy_Munch

How nice to have a developer from Insomniac on the forum! Could you tell us how everything is going to be implemented in the online mode?

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#9 Anti-Gamer
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How nice to have a developer from Insomniac on the forum! Could you tell us how everything is going to be implemented in the online mode?

BZSIN
The online mode is going very well, they are trying to make the online mode more like warhawk.
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#11 ghoulsandghost
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that is why there is this thing called CLANS.
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#12 Bluestorm-Kalas
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40 players in RFOM wasn't a mess, there were plenty of times that I was running around for quite some time, without seeing an enemy, the maps are just massive.
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#13 EmperorSupreme
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what about using the mic? isnt it going to be a bit chaotic having 30 people trying to communicate over each other?pro-nathan-07

I think Insomniac said it is going to be broken up into squads of 8 or so.

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It's already aimless clowns running around with no mics in a frag slaughter fest in RFOM1

So just imagine 2 with 60+ WOW can you say aimless slaughter fest.

By no means does 60+ translate into good online. In most cases it translates into frustration and team killing and just outright madness.

I was playing a 16+ player game of COD4 last night and we all had mics. And it was still a frag fest. Just an example.

Huge online player games have never been all that great. It's 99% of the time much funner with smaller managible groups with mics and using good stratigy.

So for 60+ ROFM 2 expect frustration and mindless chaos.

Fuzzy_Munch

I agree, I am also worried about the servers bein rather shaky with such a large group of players playing.

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Have you ever stopped and asked yourself "why do I only praise x360 games and bash every PS3 game?"

Stop and really think about that.

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#16 deactivated-59603ff9b9423
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FuzzyMunch, if I didn't know better, I'd think you're jealous...

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what about using the mic? isnt it going to be a bit chaotic having 30 people trying to communicate over each other?pro-nathan-07
Lulz, that'll be funny.

40 players was already a mess in resistance, I hated that ship level; respawn, walk 10 feet, get blasted with a rocket, respawn, walk 10 feet get shot from some random place.

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#18 RK-Mara
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It's just bad level design if you get shot in 10 seconds.
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#19 Solid_Max13
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I don't see how it'll be a mess when Warhawk can easily fit 60 ppl per map it would just get cluttered in some points but depending on size it'll be some good wars going on, right now the rfom maps are very small but with the new rfom including vehicles and bigger maps and more customization i think it'll be great!
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#20 gasmaskman
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Anyone here ever play BF? I think that'd be a perfect way to set it up, with squads of 6-10 people, and a "commander," with large maps based on capping flags and stuff...and they support 64 players and the game isn't exactly chaotic (it is, but there's a lot of space to fight).

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#21 Rikusaki
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Since when was Resistance a tactical shooter? Of course it going to be a mess! Its supposed to be that way!
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Have you ever stopped and asked yourself "why do I only praise x360 games and bash every PS3 game?"

Stop and really think about that.

xTHExJUICEx

I play Resistance all the time on my brother's PS3, so I can safely say what I feel. I am by no way happy with 60 player online player hoever I am estastic about the 2 campaigns and the 8 player co-op features.

Try not to be so quick to judge....

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Battlefield disagrees with you. It's all about the size of the map.RK-Mara
Bingo.
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#24 Anti-Gamer
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Have you ever stopped and asked yourself "why do I only praise x360 games and bash every PS3 game?"

Stop and really think about that.

APOLLOCJD

I play Resistance all the time on my brother's PS3, so I can safely say what I feel. I am by no way happy with 60 player online player hoever I am estastic about the 2 campaigns and the 8 player co-op features.

Try not to be so quick to judge....

He wasn't directed that towards you, it was to tc, you guys posted at the same time.
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#25 killzowned24
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Huge online player games have never been all that great. It's 99% of the time much funner with smaller managible groups with mics and using good stratigy.

Fuzzy_Munch

lemms always say choice, but I guess being able to choose larger AND smallergames doesnt count.

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#26 niall077
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40 player online worked for resistance 1 so I dont see the problem with another 20
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[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]

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Huge online player games have never been all that great. It's 99% of the time much funner with smaller managible groups with mics and using good stratigy.

killzowned24

lemms always say choice, but I guess being able to choose larger AND smallergames doesnt count.

You proably shouldn't tar any group with the views of one user, I'm sure very few people agree with his views and there are plenty of posts by PS3 fans that others would be quick to disassociate themselves from.

(Without being modded its hard to discuss individual users and their constant trolling. It often seems ok to make a obvious troll thread and then if someone calls them a troll, they get modded and the thread stays open. It is better to ignore these types of threads rather than massaging the ego of people who get off on annoying other users)

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#28 HAZE-Unit
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Resistance 2 is gonna be just like System wars, smart people hiding ( cowards)and fools in the center of the battlefield ( brave ).
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60 player will be fun, it will be like you're in a real war, just complete mess/chaos.Anti-Gamer

A real war isnt suppose to be a mess/chaos . if it is , its because you lost .

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#30 thegame1980
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It's already aimless clowns running around with no mics in a frag slaughter fest in RFOM1

So just imagine 2 with 60+ WOW can you say aimless slaughter fest.

By no means does 60+ translate into good online. In most cases it translates into frustration and team killing and just outright madness.

I was playing a 16+ player game of COD4 last night and we all had mics. And it was still a frag fest. Just an example.

Huge online player games have never been all that great. It's 99% of the time much funner with smaller managible groups with mics and using good stratigy.

So for 60+ ROFM 2 expect frustration and mindless chaos.

Fuzzy_Munch

Agreed. While it sounds good on paper it's not gonig to be as fun as everyone thinks. I played a few rounds of RFOM online the other day and it's EXACTLY like you said. Random people running around, not talking because of no mics killing each other with no sense of teamwork. Everyone was running in different directions and sometimes running RIGHT past a fellow teammember under fire. I felt like I was playing against mindless bots. It was like playing SEGAnet all over again.

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a big developer like bungie or epic would have some trouble with 60 player online .. making it work technically and making it fun

what makes cows think Insomniac will be able to make this work?

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a big developer like bungie or epic would have some trouble with 60 player online .. making it work technically and making it fun

what makes cows think Insomniac will be able to make this work?

akif22

Insomniac are great devs and I have utmost confidence in them.

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#33 thegame1980
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Have you ever stopped and asked yourself "why do I only praise x360 games and bash every PS3 game?"

Stop and really think about that.

xTHExJUICEx

Hey...how bout them Cowboys :)

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#34 lusitanogamer
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Even if it's a mess, if it turns out fun, who cares?

Warhawk is chaotic, but it's fun as hell.

Playing games is all about having fun or am i wrong?

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#35 TheTerribleFish
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I believe battlefield 3 will have 80 players online in a battle.
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#36 def_mode
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big team games are fun too. have u played battlefield 2?
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#37 wemhim
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It was fine in Battlefield 2. And also, some people didn't pay attention to the squad part, that's how they're organizing it.
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#38 wemhim
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a big developer like bungie or epic would have some trouble with 60 player online .. making it work technically and making it fun

what makes cows think Insomniac will be able to make this work?

akif22
I'm not a, "Cow", but Battlefield 2 seemed to work...
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also about the mic, not many ppl have one so its rare to even hear one. Thus, you should be fine if you want to talk to ppl through the room.Jack-o-Thompson

My point exactly.

Just imagine like playing capture the flag. And say only 20% on your team is using mics. So everyone is going all over aimless. And say you are tyring to defend your flag. And most of your team mates just go do whatever and then all the sudden you got like 15-20 enemy players coming at you and for you flag all at once. And your teamates are just leaving you all alone.

:lol:

Trust me this game should be renamed Frustation Of Man 2

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[QUOTE="Jack-o-Thompson"]also about the mic, not many ppl have one so its rare to even hear one. Thus, you should be fine if you want to talk to ppl through the room.Fuzzy_Munch

My point exactly.

Just imagine like playing capture the flag. And say only 20% on your team is using mics. So everyone is going all over aimless. And say you are tyring to defend your flag. And most of your team mates just go do whatever and then all the sudden you got like 15-20 enemy players coming at you and for you flag all at once. And your teamates are just leaving you all alone.

:lol:

Trust me this game should be renamed Frustation Of Man 2

Yeah, except you're being put into 8 man squads... I'm not sure, but you're chat may be limited to that. How about we actually wait until seeing the game before bashing it?
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Have you ever stopped and asked yourself "why do I only praise x360 games and bash every PS3 game?"

Stop and really think about that.

xTHExJUICEx

Have you ever stopped and asked yourself why you only praise the Cowboys.

By the way How About them Cowboys:lol:

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#42 xTHExJUICEx
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Have you ever stopped and asked yourself "why do I only praise x360 games and bash every PS3 game?"

Stop and really think about that.

thegame1980

Hey...how bout them Cowboys :)

I probably got 10 calls yesturday about it, got attacked about it on a 1up blog, friends on myspace have left messages about it and now here on GS...

LEAVE ME ALONE :cry:

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#43 Fuzzy_Munch
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[QUOTE="thegame1980"][QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Have you ever stopped and asked yourself "why do I only praise x360 games and bash every PS3 game?"

Stop and really think about that.

xTHExJUICEx

Hey...how bout them Cowboys :)

I probably got 10 calls yesturday about it, got attacked about it on a 1up blog, friends on myspace have left messages about it and now here on GS...

LEAVE ME ALONE :cry:

Ahh we just playing giving you a hard time.

Hmm maybe if Romo left Jessica's nanny box alone though the playoffs you would be ok.:lol:

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#44 xTHExJUICEx
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"][QUOTE="thegame1980"][QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Have you ever stopped and asked yourself "why do I only praise x360 games and bash every PS3 game?"

Stop and really think about that.

Fuzzy_Munch

Hey...how bout them Cowboys :)

I probably got 10 calls yesturday about it, got attacked about it on a 1up blog, friends on myspace have left messages about it and now here on GS...

LEAVE ME ALONE :cry:

Ahh we just playing giving you a hard time.

Hmm maybe if Romo left Jessica's nanny box alone though the playoffs you would be ok.:lol:

Romo played solid, I just didnt like the play calling and Patrick Crayton really screwed things up with that dropped pass that would have given them the first and probably 30+ yards. Also Fasanos dropped TD pass was a huge.....

ugh look you have me thinking about the game now, I came here to talk video games.

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It's already aimless clowns running around with no mics in a frag slaughter fest in RFOM1

So just imagine 2 with 60+ WOW can you say aimless slaughter fest.

By no means does 60+ translate into good online. In most cases it translates into frustration and team killing and just outright madness.

I was playing a 16+ player game of COD4 last night and we all had mics. And it was still a frag fest. Just an example.

Huge online player games have never been all that great. It's 99% of the time much funner with smaller managible groups with mics and using good stratigy.

So for 60+ ROFM 2 expect frustration and mindless chaos.

Fuzzy_Munch

depends on the size of the map...ofcourse it will be a mess if theres 60 players in cod4 maps.....but when the map is 100x bigger then cod4's maps....it will be pwnage :D
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i play alot of bf2 & bf2142 and the big maps are great what i find is you get lots of small battles going on all over the map ,it works well .I hope there is air vehicles in the game so you can buzz between battles . By the sound of it this game has the chance of being great cant wait to see. "08 is looking to be a super year for gaming
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They said that the 60 players will be split into different lobbies to join. These lobbies are the equivalent of squads in BF2. So, you work with 5 or 6 people out of the 30 on your team. Also, Game Informer said the MP maps are huge.
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#48 xTHExJUICEx
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posted 5 seconds ago on my myspace...

"I finally bought COD4 now i can whop ur*** ! Go Cowboys ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA U **** let sucky ass ELI to the playoffs! UR WR"S look like the eagles WR's that game cant get open with single coverage crayton droped a potential TD pass! U r a sore loser uno playoff victory in 12 years what a bunch of scubs u say ur team is so good but to lose by a TD we lose by field goals! "

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i play alot of bf2 & bf2142 and the big maps are great what i find is you get lots of small battles going on all over the map ,it works well .I hope there is air vehicles in the game so you can buzz between battles . By the sound of it this game has the chance of being great cant wait to see. "08 is looking to be a super year for gamingdarbyshireandy

I find that's the case in Warhawk also.

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#50 jbisco25
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It's just bad level design if you get shot in 10 seconds. RK-Mara

i think so as-well, it not the people what make the game its the maps for me.