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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] Thats nice and all but PS3 is still stuck in last place with no games this year. When will they get a AA exclusive this year? When will they hit 70 million console sales?tormentosIn fact the xbox 360 advantage is basically artificial,it consist on how MS report numbers in a different way from sony example. In March 31 the PS3 ended with 64 million units. In May 30 MS announce 67 million xbox 360 sold and 19 million kinect sold. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-30-worldwide-xbox-360-sales-hit-67m-3m-ahead-of-ps3 Sony fist fiscal quarter which count console sold from April to June put the PS3 with 66 million units sold. So basically with a month of difference the xbox 360 was 67 million on may while the PS3 hit 66 on June,add to the fact that the PS3 is outselling the xbox 360 world wide and you get the picture. The consoles are basically tied even that the 360 had a 1 year head start and a huge failure that added million of re buy units. You keep wearing that like it's some badge of honor even thoiugh it looks pretty bad that it took a brand that dominated 2 gens how many years to pass the competition, if it did?
I'm beginning to wonder if the stupidity defense for cows is actually real ...[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
Well great, uncharted 3 outsold gears of war then, thanks for clearing that up.
Meeeper282
You cant have it both ways sunshine, you claim ship = sold, yet you deny my comment? plus i don't own a ps3, nor am i cow, i just dislike lems
Sure I can create an alt too and say whatever I want :P Are you being deliberately obtuse in your statement or do you really not understand the difference?I'm beginning to wonder if the stupidity defense for cows is actually real ...[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
Well great, uncharted 3 outsold gears of war then, thanks for clearing that up.
Meeeper282
You cant have it both ways sunshine, you claim ship = sold, yet you deny my comment? plus i don't own a ps3, nor am i cow, i just dislike lems
i still think you might owe the tc an apology for calling him a moron.
[QUOTE="Meeeper282"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I'm beginning to wonder if the stupidity defense for cows is actually real ...blue_hazy_basic
You cant have it both ways sunshine, you claim ship = sold, yet you deny my comment? plus i don't own a ps3, nor am i cow, i just dislike lems
Sure I can create an alt too and say whatever I want :P Are you being deliberately obtuse in your statement or do you really not understand the difference?What you really said is, i have nothing so imma babble on like an idiot.
[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I'm beginning to wonder if the stupidity defense for cows is actually real ...CaseyWegner
You cant have it both ways sunshine, you claim ship = sold, yet you deny my comment? plus i don't own a ps3, nor am i cow, i just dislike lems
i still think you might owe the tc an apology for calling him a moron.
No, i talk smack to people over the internet, thug life
Sure I can create an alt too and say whatever I want :P Are you being deliberately obtuse in your statement or do you really not understand the difference?[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
You cant have it both ways sunshine, you claim ship = sold, yet you deny my comment? plus i don't own a ps3, nor am i cow, i just dislike lems
Meeeper282
What you really said is, i have nothing so imma babble on like an idiot.
No, I asked a simple question, are you not bright enough to understand the difference or are you deliberately being stupid? But yes you babbling like an idiot is close to what i said.[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]
[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
You cant have it both ways sunshine, you claim ship = sold, yet you deny my comment? plus i don't own a ps3, nor am i cow, i just dislike lems
Meeeper282
i still think you might owe the tc an apology for calling him a moron.
No, i talk smack to people over the internet, thug life
i'm not the one you should be telling this to.
In fact the xbox 360 advantage is basically artificial,it consist on how MS report numbers in a different way from sony example. In March 31 the PS3 ended with 64 million units. In May 30 MS announce 67 million xbox 360 sold and 19 million kinect sold. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-30-worldwide-xbox-360-sales-hit-67m-3m-ahead-of-ps3 Sony fist fiscal quarter which count console sold from April to June put the PS3 with 66 million units sold. So basically with a month of difference the xbox 360 was 67 million on may while the PS3 hit 66 on June,add to the fact that the PS3 is outselling the xbox 360 world wide and you get the picture. The consoles are basically tied even that the 360 had a 1 year head start and a huge failure that added million of re buy units. You keep wearing that like it's some badge of honor even thoiugh it looks pretty bad that it took a brand that dominated 2 gens how many years to pass the competition, if it did? I don't know why cows would be happy over 2nd place. They ignore the fact that Sony f'd up so bad this gen that they lost over half their fanbase that PS2 had while Xbox has tripled its install base.[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] Thats nice and all but PS3 is still stuck in last place with no games this year. When will they get a AA exclusive this year? When will they hit 70 million console sales?Bruce_Benzing
[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] 1 year head start is not a valid excuse cause Wii killed everything in sales. PS3 is last place deal with it.tormentosYes the wii which cost $250 and had a gimmick control that attracted people to it.
aka good business strategy? :?
[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] 1 year head start is not a valid excuse cause Wii killed everything in sales. PS3 is last place deal with it.tormentosYes the wii which cost $250 and had a gimmick control that attracted people to it.
You mean like this?
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&productId=8198552921666373651&langId=-1&k_clickid=53b78746-3db6-84e8-e31d-00000e1f99f0&XID=O:PS398423:dg_gglpla&XID=O:ps398423:dg_gglsrch:pla&cagpspn=pla
and this?
http://us.playstation.com/ps3/playstation-move/
:lol: oh cows
You keep wearing that like it's some badge of honor even thoiugh it looks pretty bad that it took a brand that dominated 2 gens how many years to pass the competition, if it did?Bruce_BenzingDude the PS3 is a let down compare to the PS2,we all know that but the xbox 360 is also a letdown compare to the PS2,even the wii failed to keep the PS2 numbers alive,and now is basically the last in sales,something that didn't happen to the PS2 on its 6 years. Oh and the excuse for the xbox 360 of coming from 25 million of the xbox last gen to 70 million this gen so is a success that you people use is a joke,the PS1 zero to market leader for 2 gens,MS has failed twice,at least sony can say we won 2 and loss 1,MS has loss both and since sony enter Nintendo has won 1.
[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Sure I can create an alt too and say whatever I want :P Are you being deliberately obtuse in your statement or do you really not understand the difference?blue_hazy_basic
What you really said is, i have nothing so imma babble on like an idiot.
No, I asked a simple question, are you not bright enough to understand the difference or are you deliberately being stupid? But yes you babbling like an idiot is close to what i said.You seem to presume alot, are you like allergic to facts or something? cause you don't seem to use it.
No, I asked a simple question, are you not bright enough to understand the difference or are you deliberately being stupid? But yes you babbling like an idiot is close to what i said.[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]
[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
What you really said is, i have nothing so imma babble on like an idiot.
Meeeper282
You seem to presume alot, are you like allergic to facts or something? cause you don't seem to use it.
Ah another question dodger ...[QUOTE="Meeeper282"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] No, I asked a simple question, are you not bright enough to understand the difference or are you deliberately being stupid? But yes you babbling like an idiot is close to what i said.
blue_hazy_basic
You seem to presume alot, are you like allergic to facts or something? cause you don't seem to use it.
Ah another question dodger ...cute, cause you just dodged mine :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"] You keep wearing that like it's some badge of honor even thoiugh it looks pretty bad that it took a brand that dominated 2 gens how many years to pass the competition, if it did?tormentosDude the PS3 is a let down compare to the PS2,we all know that but the xbox 360 is also a letdown compare to the PS2,even the wii failed to keep the PS2 numbers alive,and now is basically the last in sales,something that didn't happen to the PS2 on its 6 years. Oh and the excuse for the xbox 360 of coming from 25 million of the xbox last gen to 70 million this gen so is a success that you people use is a joke,the PS1 zero to market leader for 2 gens,MS has failed twice,at least sony can say we won 2 and loss 1,MS has loss both and since sony enter Nintendo has won 1. So you justify Sony being a letdown this gen by comparing Xbox 360 to Sony's last gen machine? Here's your response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Yes the wii which cost $250 and had a gimmick control that attracted people to it.[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] 1 year head start is not a valid excuse cause Wii killed everything in sales. PS3 is last place deal with it.blue_hazy_basic
You mean like this?
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&productId=8198552921666373651&langId=-1&k_clickid=53b78746-3db6-84e8-e31d-00000e1f99f0&XID=O:PS398423:dg_gglpla&XID=O:ps398423:dg_gglsrch:pla&cagpspn=pla
and this?
http://us.playstation.com/ps3/playstation-move/
:lol: oh cows
I don't get it what is your point.? The PS3 was $600 and it did not came with move standard,or move was available on launch either,ad on will never beat build in stuff,if the reason why i say that if MS want a shot with Kinect it has to be build in.So you justify Sony being a letdown this gen by comparing Xbox 360 to Sony's last gen machine? Here's your response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A&feature=youtube_gdata_playerBruce_BenzingNo you did when you mention sony pass generations dude,how dense can you be.?
Ah another question dodger ...[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
You seem to presume alot, are you like allergic to facts or something? cause you don't seem to use it.
Meeeper282
cute, cause you just dodged mine :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Does it have to be spelled out to you? Sofeware sales are completely different from hardware sales, so your example was pointless...[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Ah another question dodger ...Bruce_Benzing
cute, cause you just dodged mine :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Does it have to be spelled out to you? Sofeware sales are completely different from hardware sales, so your example was pointless...I'm pretty sure NPD proves you wrong, hardware sales can be tracked just as good as games can, but companys such as nintendo, sony, and microsoft would rather use shipped numbers to boast the numbers.
Ah another question dodger ...[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
You seem to presume alot, are you like allergic to facts or something? cause you don't seem to use it.
Meeeper282
cute, cause you just dodged mine :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
because I'm well versed in trollology. The 360 is a product which keeps selling through its supply chain. So if MS ships 2 mil units one quarter it will only ship what the retailers need and demand in the next quarter. Therefore, you can't "stuff the channels" continuously as there would be no demand. So once those are "shipped" they are sold. No idea how Sony's numbers on Uncharted worked, but a game like that isn't something which sells with continuous demand. The demand is incredibly high intially and then drops off almost completely after the first month or so, with rare exceptions. They are 2 completely different entities but I'm sure you will completely ignore that and put in laughy faces rather than answer my question.Yes the wii which cost $250 and had a gimmick control that attracted people to it.[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] 1 year head start is not a valid excuse cause Wii killed everything in sales. PS3 is last place deal with it.CaseyWegner
aka good business strategy? :?
Yep it was i never say other wise,i just pointed to him the reason why the Wii was different,hell he could have pic the DC vs PS2 example and was a much better one.[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Ah another question dodger ...Bruce_Benzing
cute, cause you just dodged mine :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Does it have to be spelled out to you? Sofeware sales are completely different from hardware sales, so your example was pointless... Wait, they're different how? Shipped is still just what the stores have for both. Sold to people is still sold to people for each. Besides being two different items... How are they different?Does it have to be spelled out to you? Sofeware sales are completely different from hardware sales, so your example was pointless...[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]
[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
cute, cause you just dodged mine :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Meeeper282
I'm pretty sure NPD proves you wrong, hardware sales can be tracked just as good as games can, but companys such as nintendo, sony, and microsft would rather use ship numbers to boast the numbers.
Thats a seperate company which collates that, not Sony, MS and Nintendo. It also does it just for North America, theres no equivalent in say Europe, I'm apologise for saying that you deliberately being stupid before.[QUOTE="Meeeper282"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Ah another question dodger ...blue_hazy_basic
cute, cause you just dodged mine :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
because I'm well versed in trollology. The 360 is a product which keeps selling through its supply chain. So if MS ships 2 mil units one quarter it will only ship what the retailers need and demand in the next quarter. Therefore, you can't "stuff the channels" continuously as there would be no demand. So once those are "shipped" they are sold. No idea how Sony's numbers on Uncharted worked, but a game like that isn't something which sells with continuous demand. The demand is incredibly high intially and then drops off almost completely after the first month or so, with rare exceptions. They are 2 completely different entities but I'm sure you will completely ignore that and put in laughy faces rather than answer my question.But you can convince the suppliers that your product is at a high demand.
And i know you cant constantly stuff the channels, you can actually only do it once, but you can stuff the channels like microsoft did last year, and claim they outshipped everyone, then ship jack all in the next quarter.
[QUOTE="TommyBarban"]
[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]
http://www.vg247.com/2012/10/18/xbox-360-moves-1-7m-consoles-during-q1-revenue-down-24/
Seems microsoft shipped 1.7m consoles to get to that 70m
http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2012/10/18/microsoft-ships-70-million-xbox-360-units/
By that logic uncharted 3 sold 3.8million in 24 hours :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
There is a thing called researching before you make a thread :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Served :lol::lol:
Meeeper282
It's funny to see you grasping at straws and getting caught up in semantics. There is a song that goes 70 mill', face the music and dance :lol:
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
WOahh, i guess if the xbox has sold 70m, they must ship another 1.7m units tomorow then
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
I swear your the biggest moron around here :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
you're awfully insecure, aren't you?Even if MS does that, the sales for the year would even out and so it would make no difference outside of victory for a single quarter.But you can convince the suppliers that your product is at a high demand.
And i know you cant constantly stuff the channels, you can actually only do it once, but you can stuff the channels like microsoft did last year, and claim they outshipped everyone, then ship jack all in the next quarter.
Meeeper282
[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]Even if MS does that, the sales for the year would even out and so it would make no difference outside of victory for a single quarter.But you can convince the suppliers that your product is at a high demand.
And i know you cant constantly stuff the channels, you can actually only do it once, but you can stuff the channels like microsoft did last year, and claim they outshipped everyone, then ship jack all in the next quarter.
blue_hazy_basic
"here's some extra xbox 360s that you didn't order. please pay for them anyway."
is that what ms says to retailers?
Lets compare. PS1 from 0 to market leader with 101 million units sold. The xbox from 0 to 25 million. The PS2 from 100 million to 152 million best selling console of all times. The xbox 360 from 25 million to 70 (with 3 years more on the market than the original xbox)From 23 million to 70 million in one generation. Too bad Sony still has them beat. from 150 million to 68 million in one generation.
Fizzman
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]Lets compare. PS1 from 0 to market leader with 101 million units sold. The xbox from 0 to 25 million. The PS2 from 100 million to 152 million best selling console of all times. The xbox 360 from 25 million to 70 (with 3 years more on the market than the original xbox)From 23 million to 70 million in one generation. Too bad Sony still has them beat. from 150 million to 68 million in one generation.
tormentos
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]Lets compare. PS1 from 0 to market leader with 101 million units sold. The xbox from 0 to 25 million. The PS2 from 100 million to 152 million best selling console of all times. The xbox 360 from 25 million to 70 (with 3 years more on the market than the original xbox) Yeah Sony has had a 220% decrease this gen and MS has had a 280% increase. That's really impressive on Sony's part :roll: No wonder you had to try to compare 360 to PS2...From 23 million to 70 million in one generation. Too bad Sony still has them beat. from 150 million to 68 million in one generation.
tormentos
[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Fizzman"] What really impresses me is that ms did that with their hardware problems.
Lets compare. PS1 from 0 to market leader with 101 million units sold. The xbox from 0 to 25 million. The PS2 from 100 million to 152 million best selling console of all times. The xbox 360 from 25 million to 70 (with 3 years more on the market than the original xbox) Yeah Sony has had a 220% decrease this gen and MS has had a 280% increase. That's really impressive on Sony's part :roll: No wonder you had to try to compare 360 to PS2... What really impresses me is ms did that with their hardware problems.[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]
From 23 million to 70 million in one generation. Too bad Sony still has them beat. from 150 million to 68 million in one generation.
Bruce_Benzing
[QUOTE="TommyBarban"]That 37 million working 360's are out there.OMG, OMG, OMG! What does this mean!
kuraimen
That's your retort? HAHAHA keep supporting the 360 threads because ps3 has jack shlt and everyone knows it.
Still frequenting 360 threads because ps3 has jack shlt for games. Keep supporting the 360. I own a ps3 and wouldn't be caught dead in a ps3 thread because it's a steaming pile of shlt.
And yet not a single one of you Lems will ever see a penny. Pretty sad that the only thing that makes you happy about your system is sales and not games, maybe you guys aren't really happy with your system like you pretend to be?
correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 360 actually receiving exclusives this year? you know, unlike the PS3?And yet not a single one of you Lems will ever see a penny. Pretty sad that the only thing that makes you happy about your system is sales and not games, maybe you guys aren't really happy with your system like you pretend to be?
ShadowMoses900
And yet not a single one of you Lems will ever see a penny. Pretty sad that the only thing that makes you happy about your system is sales and not games, maybe you guys aren't really happy with your system like you pretend to be?
ShadowMoses900
really? even while this thread is still active?
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29304404/the-ps3-will-have-finaly-outsold-the-360-before-the-next-gen-starts.
Lets compare. PS1 from 0 to market leader with 101 million units sold. The xbox from 0 to 25 million. The PS2 from 100 million to 152 million best selling console of all times. The xbox 360 from 25 million to 70 (with 3 years more on the market than the original xbox) Yeah Sony has had a 220% decrease this gen and MS has had a 280% increase. That's really impressive on Sony's part :roll: No wonder you had to try to compare 360 to PS2... No.. In fact more like a 45% decrease,you can't compare the PS3 6 years numbers to 12 years PS2 sales. See this is why i consider poster like you to be a joke,the PS2 was like 107 million or less in its 6 birthday,in fact the PS2 reach 100 million in 5 years 9 months. The PS3 is 6 years and has sold like 68 millions,66 going by first quarter numbers,so basically the PS3 is like 41 million units away from the PS2 in the same time frame. But neither the PS1 or PS2 release for $600 dollars.[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]
From 23 million to 70 million in one generation. Too bad Sony still has them beat. from 150 million to 68 million in one generation.
Bruce_Benzing
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 360 actually receiving exclusives this year? you know, unlike the PS3? buh buh teh MGS4 and UC2!!! :cry:And yet not a single one of you Lems will ever see a penny. Pretty sad that the only thing that makes you happy about your system is sales and not games, maybe you guys aren't really happy with your system like you pretend to be?
rilpas
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 360 actually receiving exclusives this year? you know, unlike the PS3?And yet not a single one of you Lems will ever see a penny. Pretty sad that the only thing that makes you happy about your system is sales and not games, maybe you guys aren't really happy with your system like you pretend to be?
rilpas
I never said the 360 had no games.....
360 has Halo and Witcher 2.
PS3 has Twisted Metal, Star Hawk, All Stars, and LBP Karting. It also had Journey and Tokyo Jungle.
Sony will always have more exclusives coming out because they have better 1st party, this is something that 360 only owners are just going to have to accept.
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