7000's and 6000's gpu's both in 720?

Hi, just a theory here,

I watched something about the 720 having a gpu based on 7000 series ati gpu's, I also heard a 6000 series gpu mentioned too.

So here go's,

Maybe the 720's gpu is based on 7000 series, and the kinnect 2 with its internal seperate processor(rumoured) is actually the 6000 series gpu?

Like i said theory but it kind of makes sense.

Hi, just a theory here,

I watched something about the 720 having a gpu based on 7000 series ati gpu's, I also heard a 6000 series gpu mentioned too.

So here go's,

Maybe the 720's gpu is based on 7000 series, and the kinnect 2 with its internal seperate processor(rumoured) is actually the 6000 series gpu?

Like i said theory but it kind of makes sense.

supergokublitz

they should create a custom gpu like they did for suxbox3chitty

Wut? A 7 series GPU in the 360 and a 6 series GPU in the Kinect? What would the 6 series GPU be for?

Wut? A 7 series GPU in the 360 and a 6 series GPU in the Kinect? What would the 6 series GPU be for?

lundy86_4

When I read the title I thought he was talking about something like the 360's GPU. Then I realized he must be high.

for more precise motion tracking and depth detection, i heard on ign or gt, somewhere that the kinnect2 may have its own processor

for more precise motion tracking and depth detection, i heard on ign or gt, somewhere that the kinnect2 may have its own processor

Well yeah thats what i'd say too, but i dont make motion tracking hardware.

Wut? A 7 series GPU in the 360 and a 6 series GPU in the Kinect? What would the 6 series GPU be for?

lundy86_4

I dont really understand what all the confusion is with the 7000/6000 series. All it is is a naming convention and thats it. AMD can take any gpu core based on any microarchitecture they want and label it as 6000 or 7000. Hell they could even label it 8000 or 9000 or 10000 if they so wanted to. Its just a name that is not indicative of any kind of performance.

If the gpu in the new Xbox is based on the Turks core then BOTH rumors of 6000 and 7000 will be true as Turks XT is both the 6670 and 7670. The same chip simply renamed just like what happened with Juniper XT (5770 and 6770) before it.

Now if the rumors said the gpu was going to be based off of GCN or VLIW4 or VLIW5 then it would be alot more telling of what kind of performance we could expect to see. But in the end these are all baseless rumors so who really knows.

Um, why would Kinect need a gpu?:|

Um, why would Kinect need a gpu?:|

mitu123

Hi, just a theory here,

I watched something about the 720 having a gpu based on 7000 series ati gpu's, I also heard a 6000 series gpu mentioned too.

So here go's,

Maybe the 720's gpu is based on 7000 series, and the kinnect 2 with its internal seperate processor(rumoured) is actually the 6000 series gpu?

Like i said theory but it kind of makes sense.

supergokublitz

It is simple, dev kits will have a cheaper 6000 series to get developers started and the final hardware will be the one they are making now based on 7000 series, some custom design that is obviously far from finished, since 720 will come in 2-3 years

[QUOTE="supergokublitz"]

Hi, just a theory here,

I watched something about the 720 having a gpu based on 7000 series ati gpu's, I also heard a 6000 series gpu mentioned too.

So here go's,

Maybe the 720's gpu is based on 7000 series, and the kinnect 2 with its internal seperate processor(rumoured) is actually the 6000 series gpu?

Like i said theory but it kind of makes sense.

heeeeeeeeeweeee

they should create a custom gpu like they did for suxbox3chitty

Perhaps theres going to be 2 skus

A more powerful upper tier sku that has a 7000 series gpu. perhaps a 7750 (Can't imagine something more powerful than that going in a a console

And a more casual kinnect 2 based sku with a 6670

Perhaps theres going to be 2 skus

A more powerful upper tier sku that has a 7000 series gpu. perhaps a 7750 (Can't imagine something more powerful than that going in a a console

And a more casual kinnect 2 based sku with a 6670

vtoshkatur

This assumption is even worst than the rumors lately.

Srsly...

Um, why would Kinect need a gpu?:|

mitu123

MS stated in the past that Kinect did indeed use some GPU functions. That is why Kinect only games will never be as graphically intensive as Non Kinect games or games that only have limited Kinect support. I doubt Kinect has a GPU in it but I wouldn't be surprised If the 720 uses an APU based on a 6670 gpu as a CPU and a 7000 series based GPU for Graphics. This way the APU can control Kinect 2.0 while still having the GPU free to do graphics. Would be a nice machine to because in NON Kinect games they could do the hybrid cross fire thing to enhance those games even more.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Um, why would Kinect need a gpu?:|

EG101

MS stated in the past that Kinect did indeed use some GPU functions. That is why Kinect only games will never be as graphically intensive as Non Kinect games or games that only have limited Kinect support. I doubt Kinect has a GPU in it but I wouldn't be surprised If the 720 uses an APU based on a 6670 gpu as a CPU and a 7000 series based GPU for Graphics. This way the APU can control Kinect 2.0 while still having the GPU free to do graphics. Would be a nice machine to because in NON Kinect games they could do the hybrid cross fire thing to enhance those games even more.

This is ridiculous.

How are they going to cope with that kind of TDP?

for more precise motion tracking and depth detection, i heard on ign or gt, somewhere that the kinnect2 may have its own processor

I would think they'd wait for a GPU that supports DirectX 12.

I really hope the 720 has a high ed 7000 series (maybe then PC could get more technically impessive multiplats), but if it uses a 6670 as rumored, its going to be and underwhelming next gen.

720 will probably have a GPU based on 8000 series, not 7000 that will be old news by late 2013

I really hope the 720 has a high ed 7000 series (maybe then PC could get more technically impessive multiplats), but if it uses a 6670 as rumored, its going to be and underwhelming next gen.

Stalkerfieldsis

Rumors are fake

720 will probably have a GPU based on 8000 series, not 7000 that will be old news by late 2013

[QUOTE="Stalkerfieldsis"]

I really hope the 720 has a high ed 7000 series (maybe then PC could get more technically impessive multiplats), but if it uses a 6670 as rumored, its going to be and underwhelming next gen.

loosingENDS

Rumors are fake

Thing is, it is a 7000 series GPU, they only said 6000 series to indicate a comparison processor.

But no TC, the Kinect 2 will likely just have a custom ASIC processor.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

720 will probably have a GPU based on 8000 series, not 7000 that will be old news by late 2013

[QUOTE="Stalkerfieldsis"]

I really hope the 720 has a high ed 7000 series (maybe then PC could get more technically impessive multiplats), but if it uses a 6670 as rumored, its going to be and underwhelming next gen.

04dcarraher

Rumors are fake

Half backfied, they still got the market position they wanted.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Rumors are fake

HalcyonScarlet

Half backfied, they still got the market position they wanted.

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Your so ignorant, it takes years to design and test and produce a console..... about three years to correctly do it. With the 360 they skimped alot of the testing and tweaking phase (quality checking too) to beat Sony to the punch and it backfired.

04dcarraher

Half backfied, they still got the market position they wanted.

Still worth it, they'd be in the same position as the original Xbox without it. It's not just about this gen, it's about the future of the Xbox brand. There is no way they could have done anything with Sony in the race back then.

Plus it's been just as bad for Sony if not worse, this has been only a bit more than a break even gen for them.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Half backfied, they still got the market position they wanted.

HalcyonScarlet

Still worth it, they'd be in the same position as the original Xbox without it. It's not just about this gen, it's about the future of the Xbox brand. There is no way they could have done anything with Sony in the race back then.

Plus it's been just as bad for Sony if not worse, this has been only a bit more than a break even gen for them.

720 will probably have a GPU based on 8000 series, not 7000 that will be old news by late 2013

[QUOTE="Stalkerfieldsis"]

I really hope the 720 has a high ed 7000 series (maybe then PC could get more technically impessive multiplats), but if it uses a 6670 as rumored, its going to be and underwhelming next gen.

loosingENDS

Rumors are fake

But your opinions carry so much more weight right? Hypocrisy at it's finest!

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] And it took them over three years to make a profit because of the failure rates. 04dcarraher

Still worth it, they'd be in the same position as the original Xbox without it. It's not just about this gen, it's about the future of the Xbox brand. There is no way they could have done anything with Sony in the race back then.

Plus it's been just as bad for Sony if not worse, this has been only a bit more than a break even gen for them.

Wasn't the issue more that the 360 was one of the first mass produced pieces of tech using that new lead free solder?

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Still worth it, they'd be in the same position as the original Xbox without it. It's not just about this gen, it's about the future of the Xbox brand. There is no way they could have done anything with Sony in the race back then.

Plus it's been just as bad for Sony if not worse, this has been only a bit more than a break even gen for them.

topgunmv

Wasn't the issue more that the 360 was one of the first mass produced pieces of tech using that new lead free solder?

And since ive built Pc's for years I looked at the 360 when everyone I knew was RRoD'ing and figured out the bad choice in cooling design, Which is why MS added the airduct, then extra heatpipe and small heatsink while also shrinking the die's for them to use less power which in turns produces less heat. Which is why the jasper chipset RROD was only 15% instead of the 50% rate from the first model. I created coolers to solve the problem, which MS should done to begin with but because they wanted to jump the gun it costed them.

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] And it took them over three years to make a profit because of the failure rates. 04dcarraher

Still worth it, they'd be in the same position as the original Xbox without it. It's not just about this gen, it's about the future of the Xbox brand. There is no way they could have done anything with Sony in the race back then.

Plus it's been just as bad for Sony if not worse, this has been only a bit more than a break even gen for them.

They aren't rushing the launch again because they don't need to, they're well positioned to start when they're ready.

And none of the 3 will be pushing for high end, but that's likely more to do with the economy. They can't afford to bring out overly expensive hardware. They have to watch the financial risk more so now.

But neither of us know the reasons for the design choices MS will make and none of it's fact anyway.

They will have learn't from past mistakes in console design, that goes without saying.

I would think they'd wait for a GPU that supports DirectX 12.

scoots9

[QUOTE="supergokublitz"]

Hi, just a theory here,

I watched something about the 720 having a gpu based on 7000 series ati gpu's, I also heard a 6000 series gpu mentioned too.

So here go's,

Maybe the 720's gpu is based on 7000 series, and the kinnect 2 with its internal seperate processor(rumoured) is actually the 6000 series gpu?

Like i said theory but it kind of makes sense.

loosingENDS

It is simple, dev kits will have a cheaper 6000 series to get developers started and the final hardware will be the one they are making now based on 7000 series, some custom design that is obviously far from finished, since 720 will come in 2-3 years

Radeon HD 7670 = Radeon HD 6670 i.e. rename. Entry level GCN starts with Radeon HD 77x0.

Hi, just a theory here,

I watched something about the 720 having a gpu based on 7000 series ati gpu's, I also heard a 6000 series gpu mentioned too.

So here go's,

Maybe the 720's gpu is based on 7000 series, and the kinnect 2 with its internal seperate processor(rumoured) is actually the 6000 series gpu?

Like i said theory but it kind of makes sense.

supergokublitz