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#101 deeliman
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="V3rciS"]
Don't be one of those persons that just watches the media and trusts all they say... there was a reason this crisis happened. There was an option to avoid it with minimal costs and there was a reason they didn't.
Lending while collecting extremely high interest rates is hardly called 'help'. Anyway... this topic is not about economics... I was just not expecting such an ignorant comment from you.

Lumpy311

Again with the tinfoil hat conspiracy theories?

I'm telling you man, Aliens did 9/11.

LOL only idiots believe that, it was clearly Obama's fault.
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#102 V3rciS
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[QUOTE="clyde46"] They lend money to Greece which is called bailing out. The fact that Germany is making a profit on that is irreverent. clyde46


Don't be one of those persons that just watches the media and trusts all they say... there was a reason this crisis happened. There was an option to avoid it with minimal costs and there was a reason they didn't.
Lending while collecting extremely high interest rates is hardly called 'help'. Anyway... this topic is not about economics... I was just not expecting such an ignorant comment from you.

Having toxic states like Greece in the EU is one of the reasons why stronger states like Germany and France are being used as cash cows. Greeces problem was its own making, same as Spain.


you call them cash cows? I call the speculators... everybody thinks Germany is loosing money while in reality they are one of the only few countries that profited from the crisis and still are expecting to turn on much more in profits...

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#103 caseypayne69
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Wrong forum Issues. Under age playing a game he shouldn't Bigger issue. Gun out in the open for him to grab. That's the problem. There should be gun safe laws.
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#104 percech
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That kid is the future king of cows.
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#105 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="V3rciS"]
Don't be one of those persons that just watches the media and trusts all they say... there was a reason this crisis happened. There was an option to avoid it with minimal costs and there was a reason they didn't.
Lending while collecting extremely high interest rates is hardly called 'help'. Anyway... this topic is not about economics... I was just not expecting such an ignorant comment from you.

V3rciS

Having toxic states like Greece in the EU is one of the reasons why stronger states like Germany and France are being used as cash cows. Greeces problem was its own making, same as Spain.


you call them cash cows? I call the speculators... everybody thinks Germany is loosing money while in reality they are one of the only few countries that profited from the crisis and still are expecting to turn on much more in profits...

And with the money they make from Greece, they will invest it into a technology that can ressurect people, so they will resurrect Hitler and with modern technologies, start WW3! My god.... If i don't post here for some days, you'll know i've been gotten. I know too much now...

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#106 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

There is over 310 million people who leave here. To think that something like this wouldn't or wont happen is naive.

Doesn't stop people from doing killing. I remember the UK soldier getting hacked up in street by 2 men not long ago.

Sure if you take guns away there might be less killing. But it's never going to stop.

Lumpy311


It's not going to stop, but if that person who shot everyone at the cinema in the states only had a knife there wouldn't be as many casualties, i'm sure

Yeah, we should ban guns, we all know how the prohibition turned out... How about instead blame the parents that were obviously idiots?


US citizens rather have people killed including children than have their weapons taken away, it's sad

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#107 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
It's not going to stop, but if that person who shot everyone at the cinema in the states only had a knife there wouldn't be as many casualties, i'm sure

Davekeeh

Yeah, we should ban guns, we all know how the prohibition turned out... How about instead blame the parents that were obviously idiots?


US citizens rather have people killed including children than have their weapons taken away, it's sad

I'm not from the US. Children get killed because their parents are idiots. Banning guns solves as much as the prohibition did.

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#108 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="V3rciS"]
Don't be one of those persons that just watches the media and trusts all they say... there was a reason this crisis happened. There was an option to avoid it with minimal costs and there was a reason they didn't.
Lending while collecting extremely high interest rates is hardly called 'help'. Anyway... this topic is not about economics... I was just not expecting such an ignorant comment from you.

V3rciS

Having toxic states like Greece in the EU is one of the reasons why stronger states like Germany and France are being used as cash cows. Greeces problem was its own making, same as Spain.


you call them cash cows? I call the speculators... everybody thinks Germany is loosing money while in reality they are one of the only few countries that profited from the crisis and still are expecting to turn on much more in profits...

I never said Germany was losing money. This whole single currency nonsense is going to end soon I reckon, been hearing reports of both France and Germany printing Francs and Deutsche Mark's again. Not sure how true they are though.
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#109 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
It's not going to stop, but if that person who shot everyone at the cinema in the states only had a knife there wouldn't be as many casualties, i'm sure

Davekeeh

Yeah, we should ban guns, we all know how the prohibition turned out... How about instead blame the parents that were obviously idiots?


US citizens rather have people killed including children than have their weapons taken away, it's sad

You need to go and learn about the Prohibition.
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#110 deeliman
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[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Having toxic states like Greece in the EU is one of the reasons why stronger states like Germany and France are being used as cash cows. Greeces problem was its own making, same as Spain. clyde46


you call them cash cows? I call the speculators... everybody thinks Germany is loosing money while in reality they are one of the only few countries that profited from the crisis and still are expecting to turn on much more in profits...

I never said Germany was losing money. This whole single currency nonsense is going to end soon I reckon, been hearing reports of both France and Germany printing Francs and Deutsche Mark's again. Not sure how true they are though.

That's probably not true, considering France and Germany already invested so much money in the Euro zone.
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#111 V3rciS
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[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Having toxic states like Greece in the EU is one of the reasons why stronger states like Germany and France are being used as cash cows. Greeces problem was its own making, same as Spain. clyde46


you call them cash cows? I call the speculators... everybody thinks Germany is loosing money while in reality they are one of the only few countries that profited from the crisis and still are expecting to turn on much more in profits...

I never said Germany was losing money. This whole single currency nonsense is going to end soon I reckon, been hearing reports of both France and Germany printing Francs and Deutsche Mark's again. Not sure how true they are though.


this crisis was not so deep so that it will destroy the Euro... it served it's purpose though. Brussels is and will keep doing whatever neccessery in order to keep it running. Actually I'd say expect even more integration in future, political (and not only). Besides banking union has been already signed and will be introduced in 2014.
Think again that this crisis was just a random event.

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#112 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="V3rciS"]
you call them cash cows? I call the speculators... everybody thinks Germany is loosing money while in reality they are one of the only few countries that profited from the crisis and still are expecting to turn on much more in profits...

V3rciS

I never said Germany was losing money. This whole single currency nonsense is going to end soon I reckon, been hearing reports of both France and Germany printing Francs and Deutsche Mark's again. Not sure how true they are though.


this crisis was not so bad to destroy Euro... it served it purpose though. Brussels is and will keep doing whatever neccessery in order to keep it running. Actually I'd say expect even more integration in future, political (and not only). Besides banking union has been already signed and will be introduced in 2014.
Think again that this crisis was just a random event.

More tinfoil theories? Jesus. Next you'll start talking about how Aliens built the pyramids.

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#113 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="V3rciS"]
you call them cash cows? I call the speculators... everybody thinks Germany is loosing money while in reality they are one of the only few countries that profited from the crisis and still are expecting to turn on much more in profits...

V3rciS

I never said Germany was losing money. This whole single currency nonsense is going to end soon I reckon, been hearing reports of both France and Germany printing Francs and Deutsche Mark's again. Not sure how true they are though.


this crisis was not so bad to destroy Euro... it served it purpose though. Brussels is and will keep doing whatever neccessery in order to keep it running. Actually I'd say expect even more integration in future, political (and not only). Besides banking union has been already signed and will be introduced in 2014.
Think again that this crisis was just a random event.

This crisis wasn't just a random event, it was the straw that broke the camel's back. The world's ecomany was balanced on bad debt and this is the result.
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#114 V3rciS
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[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] I never said Germany was losing money. This whole single currency nonsense is going to end soon I reckon, been hearing reports of both France and Germany printing Francs and Deutsche Mark's again. Not sure how true they are though. Lumpy311


this crisis was not so bad to destroy Euro... it served it purpose though. Brussels is and will keep doing whatever neccessery in order to keep it running. Actually I'd say expect even more integration in future, political (and not only). Besides banking union has been already signed and will be introduced in 2014.
Think again that this crisis was just a random event.

More tinfoil theories? Jesus. Next you'll start talking about how Aliens built the pyramids.


why every time people are speaking about politics etc
Some ignorant dudes that are totally clueless comming to conclusion about conspiracy theory. Dude turn off your console for a few mins and dedicate some time to a newspaper... you might discover wonderful things.

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#115 deeliman
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="V3rciS"]
you call them cash cows? I call the speculators... everybody thinks Germany is loosing money while in reality they are one of the only few countries that profited from the crisis and still are expecting to turn on much more in profits...

V3rciS

I never said Germany was losing money. This whole single currency nonsense is going to end soon I reckon, been hearing reports of both France and Germany printing Francs and Deutsche Mark's again. Not sure how true they are though.


this crisis was not so deep so that it will destroy the Euro... it served it's purpose though. Brussels is and will keep doing whatever neccessery in order to keep it running. Actually I'd say expect even more integration in future, political (and not only). Besides banking union has been already signed and will be introduced in 2014.
Think again that this crisis was just a random event.

So, according to you, the euro crisis is just an elaborate scheme to create the USE?
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#116 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]
this crisis was not so bad to destroy Euro... it served it purpose though. Brussels is and will keep doing whatever neccessery in order to keep it running. Actually I'd say expect even more integration in future, political (and not only). Besides banking union has been already signed and will be introduced in 2014.
Think again that this crisis was just a random event.

V3rciS

More tinfoil theories? Jesus. Next you'll start talking about how Aliens built the pyramids.


why every time people are speaking about politics etc
Some ignorant dudes that are totally clueless comming to conclusion about conspiracy theory. Dude turn off your console for a few mins and dedicate some time to a newspaper... you might discover wonderful things.

Because what you are saying is nothing but a conspiracy theory, like the thousands of other unfounded, absolutely idiotic theories that people like you make up. You don't know shit about politics, you just pretend you do by making stuff up.

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#117 V3rciS
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[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] I never said Germany was losing money. This whole single currency nonsense is going to end soon I reckon, been hearing reports of both France and Germany printing Francs and Deutsche Mark's again. Not sure how true they are though. deeliman


this crisis was not so deep so that it will destroy the Euro... it served it's purpose though. Brussels is and will keep doing whatever neccessery in order to keep it running. Actually I'd say expect even more integration in future, political (and not only). Besides banking union has been already signed and will be introduced in 2014.
Think again that this crisis was just a random event.

So, according to you, the euro crisis is just an elaborate scheme to create the USE?


Not exactly like that but there's some truth in your words...
Seriously just watch and study all the events that started taking shape from 1992 up 'till now. There are even talks about creating a common eu army. I'm not talking conspiracy theories... all these been in news already. People just not paying attention to it... type on google and you'll find articles about this all over the net. 

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#118 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Yeah, we should ban guns, we all know how the prohibition turned out... How about instead blame the parents that were obviously idiots?

clyde46


US citizens rather have people killed including children than have their weapons taken away, it's sad

You need to go and learn about the Prohibition.

Trolls don't read.

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#119 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="V3rciS"]
this crisis was not so deep so that it will destroy the Euro... it served it's purpose though. Brussels is and will keep doing whatever neccessery in order to keep it running. Actually I'd say expect even more integration in future, political (and not only). Besides banking union has been already signed and will be introduced in 2014.
Think again that this crisis was just a random event.

V3rciS

So, according to you, the euro crisis is just an elaborate scheme to create the USE?


Not exactly like that but there's some truth in your words...
Seriously just watch and study all the events that started taking shape from 1992 up 'till now. There are even talks about creating a common eu army. I'm not talking conspiracy theories... all these been in news already. People just not paying attention to it... type on google and you'll find articles about this all over the net. 

I can type on google and find an article about how great the Nazi Army was, and how the Holocaust was just a propagand aattempt. Doesn't make it true.

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#120 deeliman
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="V3rciS"]
this crisis was not so deep so that it will destroy the Euro... it served it's purpose though. Brussels is and will keep doing whatever neccessery in order to keep it running. Actually I'd say expect even more integration in future, political (and not only). Besides banking union has been already signed and will be introduced in 2014.
Think again that this crisis was just a random event.

V3rciS

So, according to you, the euro crisis is just an elaborate scheme to create the USE?


Not exactly like that but there's some truth in your words...
Seriously just watch and study all the events that started taking shape from 1992 up 'till now. There are even talks about creating a common eu army. I'm not talking conspiracy theories... all these been in news already. People just not paying attention to it... type on google and you'll find articles about this all over the net. 

European politicians have openly stated that they want a common defense, and in time even a USE. So what? As long as the people of Europe do not want it then it won't happen.
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I've been following this in the news over the past couple days and it is without a doubt the archetype for the real problems that no one ever mentions... Parenting. An 8 year old allowed to play gta, a Mature rated game that anyone knows is far too violent than an 8 year old should be exposed to... Wow. An 8 year old with access to not just a gun, but a loaded working gun assuming with no safety or trigger lock engaged. The woman killed was the caregiver of the child at last check and the parents are nowhere to be found.... So even though precautions are in place, such ratings and labels on games and a plethora of common thought as well as laws that say that kids should never be given access to a loaded gun, the media and politicians will undoubtedly call the parents and ccaregiver/grandmother victims as well as the boy, while attempting to further Bastardize the game industry and guns control. Humans don't believe in survival of the finest it seems. I feel bad when someone is needlessly murdered but this instance screams to the lack of parenting that is plaguing our country.

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#122 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="deeliman"] So, according to you, the euro crisis is just an elaborate scheme to create the USE? deeliman


Not exactly like that but there's some truth in your words...
Seriously just watch and study all the events that started taking shape from 1992 up 'till now. There are even talks about creating a common eu army. I'm not talking conspiracy theories... all these been in news already. People just not paying attention to it... type on google and you'll find articles about this all over the net. 

European politicians have openly stated that they want a common defense, and in time even a USE. So what? As long as the people of Europe do not want it then it won't happen.

That's where you are wrong man, they don't care!!! They'll do whatever they want and the population is too brainwashed to know about it!!! Tread carefully....

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[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

More tinfoil theories? Jesus. Next you'll start talking about how Aliens built the pyramids.

Lumpy311


why every time people are speaking about politics etc
Some ignorant dudes that are totally clueless comming to conclusion about conspiracy theory. Dude turn off your console for a few mins and dedicate some time to a newspaper... you might discover wonderful things.

Because what you are saying is nothing but a conspiracy theory, like the thousands of other unfounded, absolutely idiotic theories that people like you make up. You don't know shit about politics, you just pretend you do by making stuff up.


stupid ignorant moron... I won't bother with you again

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7439104.stm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10041817/Federal-Europe-will-be-a-reality-in-a-few-years-says-Jose-Manuel-Barroso.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/franois-hollande-calls-for-european-political-union-within-two-years-8619824.html

http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/reding/eufuture/index_en.htm

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100180784/eu-proposals-for-a-european-army-would-destroy-nato-and-threaten-the-transatlantic-alliance/

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/apr/23/united-state-of-europe-anglo-american-union

http://euobserver.com/news/29426

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Guns don't kill people, GTA and points do.

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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="V3rciS"]
Not exactly like that but there's some truth in your words...
Seriously just watch and study all the events that started taking shape from 1992 up 'till now. There are even talks about creating a common eu army. I'm not talking conspiracy theories... all these been in news already. People just not paying attention to it... type on google and you'll find articles about this all over the net. 

Lumpy311

European politicians have openly stated that they want a common defense, and in time even a USE. So what? As long as the people of Europe do not want it then it won't happen.

That's where you are wrong man, they don't care!!! They'll do whatever they want and the population is too brainwashed to know about it!!! Tread carefully....

Still, the USE doesn't sound that bad to me. Why is everyone always against that?
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US needs to grow up and take a look at how it's done in The Netherlands

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US needs to grow up and take a look at how it's done in The Netherlands

Davekeeh
The Netherlands isn't all sunshine and rainbows either.
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a gun in the house with a 90 year old and an 8 year old?

i literally don't know who there was the worst risk.

the old lady was going to go after the monkeys that were stealing her fruit or the kid was going to use it to capture jugglypuff at some point anyway.

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#131 Cyberdot
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America. No surprise there.

Allowing guns and letting an 8 year old playing a violent game is the problem.

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#132 deeliman
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US needs to grow up and take a look at how it's done in The Netherlands

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Even mentally insane people can legally get guns here, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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#134 clyde46
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America. No surprise there.

Allowing guns and letting an 8 year old playing a violent game is the problem.

Cyberdot
You seriously are an idiot. This has nothing to do with guns, its called bad parenting.
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#135 Lumpy311
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America. No surprise there.

Allowing guns and letting an 8 year old playing a violent game is the problem.

Cyberdot

Guns are fine, idiot parents are the problem.

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#136 Riverwolf007
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US needs to grow up and take a look at how it's done in The Netherlands

Davekeeh

but i don't want to have sex with goats.

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#137 deeliman
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

US needs to grow up and take a look at how it's done in The Netherlands

clyde46
The Netherlands isn't all sunshine and rainbows either.

It can be if you visit the coffee shops.
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#138 Bigboi500
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What the hell is a 90 year old Grandma doing with a loaded Gun?Shielder7
Whatever she wants to.

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#139 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

US needs to grow up and take a look at how it's done in The Netherlands

deeliman
The Netherlands isn't all sunshine and rainbows either.

It can be if you visit the coffee shops.

Not if you are a tourist...
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#140 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Shielder7"]What the hell is a 90 year old Grandma doing with a loaded Gun?Bigboi500

Whatever she wants to.

i lol'd.

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#142 V3rciS
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="clyde46"] The Netherlands isn't all sunshine and rainbows either. clyde46
It can be if you visit the coffee shops.

Not if you are a tourist...


of course you can... (i'm living in amsterdam) :P

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#143 deeliman
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="clyde46"] The Netherlands isn't all sunshine and rainbows either.

It can be if you visit the coffee shops.

Even ten year olds here can get weed, so it shouldn't be that hard for tourists. Not if you are a tourist...

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#144 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="deeliman"] It can be if you visit the coffee shops. V3rciS

Not if you are a tourist...


of course you can... (i'm living in amsterdam) :P

i thought they brought in a law that banned tourists from using those "green" cafes.
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#145 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="deeliman"] It can be if you visit the coffee shops. V3rciS

Not if you are a tourist...


of course you can... (i'm living in amsterdam) :P

That explains a lot.

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#147 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] I agree. That country doesnot even have respect for olders. day ago there was old man beaten by teenagers...SNIPER4321

It's not guns and it's no video games, it's TERRIBLE parenting. And the old man was a WW2 veteran, shot in the leg in the Pacific. Kids have no respect these days.

yeah and than americans shout WE HAVE huManz RIGHTZZ!! and its BestZ!!

You should always be proud of your country, if these people can look at America and say they are proud of it, good for them, maybe the US does have problems, but it certainly beats living in lots of countries.

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#148 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

America. No surprise there.

Allowing guns and letting an 8 year old playing a violent game is the problem.

SNIPER4321

You seriously are an idiot. This has nothing to do with guns, its called bad parenting.

and america has culture of bad parenting or id say western culture in general. and when kid become 18. he left his parents and some start hating their parents. in west ppls leave their family for girlfriend and ran away.

Happens all the time in Europe in every country. Sorry, it's not only America that has problems.

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#149 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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America. No surprise there.

Allowing guns and letting an 8 year old playing a violent game is the problem.

Cyberdot


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