800 pound elephant in the room: How Expensive is PS4? Stance on used games?

Yoshida said it was up to publishers if PS4 blocks used games back in March.

Does this worry you? It seems to me this is his way of saying we could be in for the worst generation ever.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/sony-hints-ps4-does-contain-feature-block-used-games-its-publishers-use-it

During a recent interview with Gamespot, the boss of Sony Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida discussed more details regarding the subject of used games and the PS4.

While in past interviews he stated the PS4 will not block used games, he teased the tech to do so does exist in the console itself. The feature would be entirely optional and left up to individual publishers to decide if they want to use it for their games. He also teased Sony would not be using this feature for any game they develop on the PS4.

I don't buy used games. I also expect it to cost less than the PS3 at launch, or have a similarly priced high-en SKU.

Oh, also:

For the relevance.

No used games is like the most anti consumer bs I've ever seen.

If it does that I wouldn't buy on principal alone.

No used games is like the most anti consumer bs I've ever seen.

If it does that I wouldn't buy on principal alone.

robotapple

I'm sure it is to some. To me, it's a non-issue.

.................. no

Although it is funny that Microsoft had to change their communistic pitch on used games before the console even launched though... that would have doomed them... lol

saying they never planned to block them like people thought... lmao

MS got all sorts of scared.

I am proud of all the Xbox (non lems) that would NOT stand for that SHIT!!! The negativity surrounding it made them switch their stance... they are not fooling anybody.

Now if they change a couple other things as well.. I might consider gettingone eventually. Especially if my source about that "old Ip being revived" is right... :cool:

meh...its a 6+ year investment... $400-800 is nothing.campzor

So much this. My phone probably costs me more.

.................. no

Although it is funny that Microsoft had to change their communistic pitch on used games before the console even launched though... that would have doomed them... lol

saying they never planned to block them like people thought... lmao

MS got all sorts of scared.

I am proud of all the Xbox (non lems) that would NOT stand for that SHIT!!! The negativity surrounding it made them switch their stance... they are not folling anybody.

WitIsWisdom

They are backpedaling but still giving no concrete answers.

Come on now.. You know it's the truth.

They had not officialy stated anything and they kept beating around the bush but we all knew where it was heading... That was the main reason for all the internet hate for Microsofts newest console.

All of a sudden "rumors" are breaking out that Microsoft has revealed that was never their stance when no conferences or anything even took place since then?

Microsoft got their horrible business plans rammed up their ass after they realized the gaming comunity aren't just a bunch of mindless window lickers... which they deserved!

Now, don't get me wrong... if these new rumors DO wind up being true, then it is good news for manticores and lems alike.

However, like you said, they are not giving any concrete answers yet. Which I think means even though they didn't have anything "set in stone" that they were at least HOPING the rumors would not stir controversy.

The price is not important. The people who are worried about the price will just get a WiiU. There is no going back for Microsoft-- they are charging $60 a year for internet when it's free on other platforms; they are fining players to play used/borrowed/rented games; they are forcing players to purchase the useless Kinect 2; the games require Kinect to be always on; the Kinect is always watching and listening to you; and you have to connect to the internet at least once a day to play your games.

There will come a day in the future when you won't be able to play your Xbox One games because the servers have been shut down. My NES will play games until the day I die.

Yoshida said it was up to publishers if PS4 blocks used games back in March.

 

Does this worry you? It seems to me this is his way of saying we could be in for the worst generation ever.

 

http://www.screwattack.com/news/sony-hints-ps4-does-contain-feature-block-used-games-its-publishers-use-it

 

During a recent interview with Gamespot, the boss of Sony Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida discussed more details regarding the subject of used games and the PS4.

While in past interviews he stated the PS4 will not block used games, he teased the tech to do so does exist in the console itself. The feature would be entirely optional and left up to individual publishers to decide if they want to use it for their games. He also teased Sony would not be using this feature for any game they develop on the PS4.

robotapple

The price is not important. The people who are worried about the price will just get a WiiU. There is no going back for Microsoft-- they are charging $60 a year for internet when it's free on other platforms; they are fining players to play used/borrowed/rented games; they are forcing players to purchase the useless Kinect 2; the games require Kinect to be always on; the Kinect is always watching and listening to you; and you have to connect to the internet at least once a day to play your games.

Microsoft finally bridged the gap between console and PC gaming but not in the way that anyone wanted-- they have mandated codes for software.

Dustin_W

I completely agree with all your points, but hopefully that newest rumor I was talking about above winds up being true. I seriously want good things for Xbox fans. Microsoft on the other hand??? they are no better then EA in my book... however that aside, they should treat their customer base better then these mandated codes.

I still hold out a very slim hope that Microsoft ill see the error of their ways and decide to do the right things... however, even if they wind up "doing the right things" due to low initial sales, I would still buy one at some point... not to support MS but to support the games industry and gaming in general. However, at this point Microsoft is making it too hard for me to want to support the gaming industry with THEIR product. It isn't the devs... it isn't the games... it isn't the hardware... it's Microsoft doing this. There is still time for all of this to change. Even if it is slow to happen and just one thing at a time.

I don't hold grudges so if MS steps up for gaming fans at some point, I will meet them halfway regardless of the circumstances. However, until then I will not... I can not... support the decline of gaming.

If you hadn't noticed it has been up to developers on 360 and PS3.... PS4 (from what info is known) just doesn't have a built in pay-to-play used games feature like XBOX One.

It's almost like MS purposely put up a toll both for used games regardless of the developers wishes to make money off of ALL used games.

That's what allot of people don't like.

As for the PS4 price... as long as online play is free it will be the cheapest of the two consoles and I have a feeling it will be comparable to a bargain PC gaming rig.

That's a big elephant. EDIT: In comparision to a human at least. For an elephant that is pretty tiny now that I think about it but still given my weight against an 800 lb elephant I'd be crushed to hell and back.

Anyways, I don't buy used games so no issues for me with either Xbox or PS4 if push comes to shove for either.

I would like to know how hot the thing will get with 8GBs of power hungry memory, I might just buy it to heat my house!

Heck yeah I'm worried, if there is a restriction, I'm going PC/Wii U next generation. bbkkristian

Isn't that abit of an oxymoron? After all there has never been a used games market on the PC and if the only reason you game on consoles is because of the used games sales, you should have switched years ago.

No used games is like the most anti consumer bs I've ever seen.

If it does that I wouldn't buy on principal alone.

robotapple

Yoshida said it was up to publishers if PS4 blocks used games back in March.

 

Does this worry you? It seems to me this is his way of saying we could be in for the worst generation ever.

 

http://www.screwattack.com/news/sony-hints-ps4-does-contain-feature-block-used-games-its-publishers-use-it

 

During a recent interview with Gamespot, the boss of Sony Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida discussed more details regarding the subject of used games and the PS4.

While in past interviews he stated the PS4 will not block used games, he teased the tech to do so does exist in the console itself. The feature would be entirely optional and left up to individual publishers to decide if they want to use it for their games. He also teased Sony would not be using this feature for any game they develop on the PS4.

robotapple

Anorexic elephant or just a cheap elephant from Tesco?

*ahem*

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/gamestop-xbox-one-ps4-will-be-less-expensive-at-launch-than-past-consoles-6408792

Gorilla, not elephant. An 800 pound elephant would be a baby.

I'm betting PS4 won't be any more expensive than the Xbox, and Sony can play it smart on the used games and make people happy, due to MS' flopfrence.

Like I said before, the fact that Sony has said nothing about their new console not having some kind of used game fee does not bode well.

So far all they have confirmed is that the PS4 will not block used games.

If they weren't considering a fee also they would have been the first one to promote it after the MS event backlash.

Sony is being eerily quiet through all of this.

I just discovered PC gaming at a time when consumers are being strangled by consoles... seems opportune for me... I will say to my fellow Consolites, of which I am still very much a supporter of, if you crave freedom of gaming as well as a logical approach with sensible pricing and a consumer first approach (FOR THE MOST PART - DRM bleh!!!!) do yourself a favor and aquire a nice PC and hook it up to your tv... Next gen will be insane... 

Even at $600 I could see the PS4 winning the generation.

If its priced at $400-500 I really feel sorry for Ninty/M$

THough i dont believe PS4 will cost more than USD500, i got cellphones more expensive than that and within a year new models (better specs) were available..

So in reality USD600 for a console on which you can game for years to come its not really expensive..

Also TC since you're a well known MS fanboy, USD800 shouldnt be a problem for you since over 5-7yrs your XBOX360 cost you the approx the same with the extra fees for XBLG !!!

What was it at launch USD300??? add an HDD & XBLG. mmm yeah definately we're around the USD800 mark !!

I think 'how expensive is the xbox one' is the bigger elephant in the room than anything to do with the PS4. The PS4 is a games console and not much else.Ninja-Hippo