900 dollars for eye candy?No thank you.

[QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]They say "OH when you upgrade, it all becomes obsolete after a year anywayz LOLZ!!!" No. My 6800 GS STILL plays games extremely well. I still play ALL of my games on high with a nice framerate. A good computer (if built right) can and will last 5 - 8 years depending on what and how you use it. 5 - 6 years for hardcore gaming 7 - 8 years for most other things. trix5817

Biggest amount of garbage I've seen spewed since someone claimed that the Wii has good games.

First of all, bragging about your video card is laughable considering that card's benchmarks (and therefore release) came out less than 2 years ago.

Second of all, 5-6 years? I should remind you of what a fairly good gaming comp was 6 years ago. That would be a PC with 1ghz processor, 128mb of ram, a GeForce 3 graphics card, and it would all be running on Windows 98. Even if we totally forget the OS, was anybody playing games with this last year or the year before? It's probably been 3 years (though more likely 4 or more for any hardcore PC gamer) at least since most PC gamers would've ran this kind of rig.

The 6800GS didn't come out less than 2 years ago........even the 7 series card didn't come out less than 2 years ago......wow.

Dont bother wasting your time, this post was made by a lemming, they all follow path, off to drown somewhere :S.

Its the worst selling Console of this gen, yet they are trying to measure it up with the PC :lol:

[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]They say "OH when you upgrade, it all becomes obsolete after a year anywayz LOLZ!!!" No. My 6800 GS STILL plays games extremely well. I still play ALL of my games on high with a nice framerate. A good computer (if built right) can and will last 5 - 8 years depending on what and how you use it. 5 - 6 years for hardcore gaming 7 - 8 years for most other things. Meu2k7

Biggest amount of garbage I've seen spewed since someone claimed that the Wii has good games.

First of all, bragging about your video card is laughable considering that card's benchmarks (and therefore release) came out less than 2 years ago.

Second of all, 5-6 years? I should remind you of what a fairly good gaming comp was 6 years ago. That would be a PC with 1ghz processor, 128mb of ram, a GeForce 3 graphics card, and it would all be running on Windows 98. Even if we totally forget the OS, was anybody playing games with this last year or the year before? It's probably been 3 years (though more likely 4 or more for any hardcore PC gamer) at least since most PC gamers would've ran this kind of rig.

The 6800GS didn't come out less than 2 years ago........even the 7 series card didn't come out less than 2 years ago......wow.

Dont bother wasting your time, this post was made by a lemming, they all follow path, off to drown somewhere :S.

Its the worst selling Console of this gen, yet they are trying to measure it up with the PC :lol:

First of all: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_27336.html It's pretty sad you hermits don't even know when your own hardware came out.

Second of all, I don't own a 360 nor have I ever given any indication of wanting to own a 360. Calling me a lemming = failure at the highest levels.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]They say "OH when you upgrade, it all becomes obsolete after a year anywayz LOLZ!!!" No. My 6800 GS STILL plays games extremely well. I still play ALL of my games on high with a nice framerate. A good computer (if built right) can and will last 5 - 8 years depending on what and how you use it. 5 - 6 years for hardcore gaming 7 - 8 years for most other things. Vampyronight

Biggest amount of garbage I've seen spewed since someone claimed that the Wii has good games.

First of all, bragging about your video card is laughable considering that card's benchmarks (and therefore release) came out less than 2 years ago.

Second of all, 5-6 years? I should remind you of what a fairly good gaming comp was 6 years ago. That would be a PC with 1ghz processor, 128mb of ram, a GeForce 3 graphics card, and it would all be running on Windows 98. Even if we totally forget the OS, was anybody playing games with this last year or the year before? It's probably been 3 years (though more likely 4 or more for any hardcore PC gamer) at least since most PC gamers would've ran this kind of rig.

The 6800GS didn't come out less than 2 years ago........even the 7 series card didn't come out less than 2 years ago......wow.

Dont bother wasting your time, this post was made by a lemming, they all follow path, off to drown somewhere :S.

Its the worst selling Console of this gen, yet they are trying to measure it up with the PC :lol:

First of all: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_27336.html It's pretty sad you hermits don't even know when your own hardware came out.

Second of all, I don't own a 360 nor have I ever given any indication of wanting to own a 360. Calling me a lemming = failure at the highest levels.

Thats the GS model ...

I built a $1200 comp that can run Crysis. The monitor and speakers jacked the price up to about $1600. I never have had a gameing comp before and let me tell you it is the best peice of gaming hardware I have ever owned.

Consoles just have nothing on the PC. The games are just so much deeper and more full of content. They are, at least in my opinion, more fun to play. With a PC RTSs and MMORGPS are open to me, and those are some of the best games ever.

Wasdie

My thoughts as well.

Thats the GS model ...

Meu2k7

Which is the EXACT model he is using. *cue music that would be played after a shocking revelation has been made*

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Thats the GS model ...

Vampyronight

Which is the EXACT model he is using. *cue music that would be played after a shocking revelation has been made*

Its also a lesser model of the 6800 Series, so he exagurated the date alittle? He's still right , my 6800 last me for over 3 years, allowed me to completely avoid the 7XXX series, and here I am now with an 8800 GTS, in which case I will probably skip the 9800 series aswell, unless theres somekind of massive break-through.

Second of all, 5-6 years? I should remind you of what a fairly good gaming comp was 6 years ago. That would be a PC with 1ghz processor, 128mb of ram, a GeForce 3 graphics card, and it would all be running on Windows 98. Even if we totally forget the OS, was anybody playing games with this last year or the year before? It's probably been 3 years (though more likely 4 or more for any hardcore PC gamer) at least since most PC gamers would've ran this kind of rig.Vampyronight

Which is why you play more than Crysis... and do more than play games...

The PC has the largest and most critically acclaimed library out of any gaming platform. It has amazing games going back two decades. Many games that still shame most games coming out these days.

$900 for a gaming PC? More than worth it.
foxhound_fox

Hehe 900 you say... I spent 4000 on my computer a couple months ago. Hehe my new computer i'm building is going to run 1600 for just the PC parts not including everything else that goes with a computer.

Yes PC gaming is more expensive than consoles but you can also do a lot more than a console so i'd say it's worth it.

karmageddon2k4

4k??? what do you have?

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

this PC:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227124

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148184

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130071

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135049

will play crysis on MAX @ 1440X900, I know they say Duel-8800GTX, but I really believe that it will be possible with an 8800GTS640

Zeliard9

Nobody says Dual GTXs ... thats some misconception added to this topic, infact the GTX and Ultra SLI's are not even compatible with Vista & Crysis atm , so whoever said that is just yanking your chain.

9800's will be the only thigns to truly max it, but only excessivly (1900x+ , 16 AA , 16x FSAA)

I've heard the Crytek guys maxed it out on a quad core @ 3.2 ghz and a 8800GTX.

i heard that too.

[QUOTE="karmageddon2k4"]

Hehe 900 you say... I spent 4000 on my computer a couple months ago. Hehe my new computer i'm building is going to run 1600 for just the PC parts not including everything else that goes with a computer.

Yes PC gaming is more expensive than consoles but you can also do a lot more than a console so i'd say it's worth it.

themagicbum9720

4k??? what do you have?

[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="ginglejangle"]Well,I was at walmart today and I came across this magazine on how to build your own gaming pc and i decided to look at it.It said that to play crysis it would cost 900$ to impovr your pc well enough to play that.And i was like screw that im not paying 900 $ for eye candy.WHats the point of a gaming pc any way when Ill be getting bio shock for my 360 in 2 weeks anyway?I also dont have the patince to wait 2 years for ports so the pc wouldnt fit me well anyways.ginglejangle

exaclty,I dont have to wait 2 years i get bio shock the same day as pc owners.

so whats the point of the pc again..

A PC pays for it self I am an AutoCAD drafer, drawer? is that how is it called? anyway and I am getting my custom build rig after I finish the drawings I'm making right now, about 3k for two months work. And I can also use it to run SolidEdge 19 for my university's projects a PC is far better than a console.

By the way anyone know how well nVidia's 8 series runs graphic intense CAD applications?

[QUOTE="Vampyronight"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Thats the GS model ...

Meu2k7

Which is the EXACT model he is using. *cue music that would be played after a shocking revelation has been made*

Its also a lesser model of the 6800 Series, so he exagurated the date alittle? He's still right , my 6800 last me for over 3 years, allowed me to completely avoid the 7XXX series, and here I am now with an 8800 GTS, in which case I will probably skip the 9800 series aswell, unless theres somekind of massive break-through.

So we agree on the 6800GS, right? Good.

Now in regards to the rest of your post, where did I ever claim that you need 10 upgrades in a 5 years span? In fact, your post only highlights what would be my main point- even if you build a pretty high end rig now, you will have to upgrade at least once during a 5 year period (a console lifespan).

However, I certainly don't subscribe to the "you must upgrade every 6 months/it costs you $2000 to build a decent rig/building a PC is too hard so I must buy Alienware to game" theory on PC gaming. It IS more expensive, and perhaps considerbly so, but it does come with benefits.

[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"][QUOTE="karmageddon2k4"]

Hehe 900 you say... I spent 4000 on my computer a couple months ago. Hehe my new computer i'm building is going to run 1600 for just the PC parts not including everything else that goes with a computer.

Yes PC gaming is more expensive than consoles but you can also do a lot more than a console so i'd say it's worth it.

Vandalvideo

4k??? what do you have?

my first guess was overkill....haha horrible shopping.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Vampyronight"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Thats the GS model ...

Vampyronight

Which is the EXACT model he is using. *cue music that would be played after a shocking revelation has been made*

Its also a lesser model of the 6800 Series, so he exagurated the date alittle? He's still right , my 6800 last me for over 3 years, allowed me to completely avoid the 7XXX series, and here I am now with an 8800 GTS, in which case I will probably skip the 9800 series aswell, unless theres somekind of massive break-through.

So we agree on the 6800GS, right? Good.

Now in regards to the rest of your post, where did I ever claim that you need 10 upgrades in a 5 years span? In fact, your post only highlights what would be my main point- even if you build a pretty high end rig now, you will have to upgrade at least once during a 5 year period (a console lifespan).

I dunno? I dont believe I have said you claimed that? :S , and I agree at least once, I would upgrade twice, but I'm a graphics whore.

However, I certainly don't subscribe to the "you must upgrade every 6 months/it costs you $2000 to build a decent rig/building a PC is too hard so I must buy Alienware to game" theory on PC gaming. It IS more expensive, and perhaps considerbly so, but it does come with benefits.

Thats fine, but our conversation was a little strange, since I had a go at the TC not you ;)

[QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]I think you could build a rig that can play Crysis for less. And I'd say you could definatly upgrade your current computer to be able to play Crysis for less than that.ginglejangle

how much lesser?

[QUOTE="Vampyronight"]Second of all, 5-6 years? I should remind you of what a fairly good gaming comp was 6 years ago. That would be a PC with 1ghz processor, 128mb of ram, a GeForce 3 graphics card, and it would all be running on Windows 98. Even if we totally forget the OS, was anybody playing games with this last year or the year before? It's probably been 3 years (though more likely 4 or more for any hardcore PC gamer) at least since most PC gamers would've ran this kind of rig.Vandalvideo

Your theory would be true IF games on the PC maintained settings that would run on a console. However, we know this is never true- every year, the recommended specs for PC games goes up. Now, the games may look better, but at some point in time, YOU CAN'T PLAY GAMES. So while your computer may be perfectly capable of rendering 360/PS3 level of graphics, games are no longer even playable at those specs.

You can do better than that, Vandal.

[QUOTE="Vampyronight"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Vampyronight"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Thats the GS model ...

Meu2k7

Which is the EXACT model he is using. *cue music that would be played after a shocking revelation has been made*

Its also a lesser model of the 6800 Series, so he exagurated the date alittle? He's still right , my 6800 last me for over 3 years, allowed me to completely avoid the 7XXX series, and here I am now with an 8800 GTS, in which case I will probably skip the 9800 series aswell, unless theres somekind of massive break-through.

So we agree on the 6800GS, right? Good.

Now in regards to the rest of your post, where did I ever claim that you need 10 upgrades in a 5 years span? In fact, your post only highlights what would be my main point- even if you build a pretty high end rig now, you will have to upgrade at least once during a 5 year period (a console lifespan).

I dunno? I dont believe I have said you claimed that? :S , and I agree at least once, I would upgrade twice, but I'm a graphics whore.

However, I certainly don't subscribe to the "you must upgrade every 6 months/it costs you $2000 to build a decent rig/building a PC is too hard so I must buy Alienware to game" theory on PC gaming. It IS more expensive, and perhaps considerbly so, but it does come with benefits.

Thats fine, but our conversation was a little strange, since I had a go at the TC not you ;)

Ahh- perhaps we entangled arguments from other people a little too much. Apologies for anything that I said that might've gone a little overboard.

Your theory would be true IF games on the PC maintained settings that would run on a console. However, we know this is never true- every year, the recommended specs for PC games goes up. Now, the games may look better, but at some point in time, YOU CAN'T PLAY GAMES. So while your computer may be perfectly capable of rendering 360/PS3 level of graphics, games are no longer even playable at those specs.Vampyronight

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Which is why you play more than Crysis... and do more than play games...

The PC has the largest and most critically acclaimed library out of any gaming platform. It has amazing games going back two decades. Many games that still shame most games coming out these days.

$900 for a gaming PC? More than worth it.
smokeydabear076

Yeah I love it when all these newbies to PC hardware see Crysis then get excited and then see hardware prices then go crazy and start posting these threads.

...Bu buh 900 for a PC ... 900 would be a steal for a gaming PC it does does more than gaming Im mean you must know that you did just post a topic on a site.

If you feel that PC gaming is expensive its fine because it actualy is but at the end of the day its worth it because I spend much more on my PC than anything else.

900 dollars is dirt cheap and I doubt you will be able to play Crysis on a computer at good resolutions, lower then most console graphics at least. You need at least an 8800 GTX which is like400 dollars alone, then you have to have the rest of the parts. The only way it is going to be cheap is if you use an AMD processor which costs half the price of most Intel's but they do not perform nearly as well.DSgamer64

900 dollars is dirt cheap and I doubt you will be able to play Crysis on a computer at good resolutions, lower then most console graphics at least. You need at least an 8800 GTX which is like400 dollars alone, then you have to have the rest of the parts. The only way it is going to be cheap is if you use an AMD processor which costs half the price of most Intel's but they do not perform nearly as well.DSgamer64

900 dollars is dirt cheap and I doubt you will be able to play Crysis on a computer at good resolutions, lower then most console graphics at least. You need at least an 8800 GTX which is like400 dollars alone, then you have to have the rest of the parts. The only way it is going to be cheap is if you use an AMD processor which costs half the price of most Intel's but they do not perform nearly as well.DSgamer64

A 8800 GTX is overkill , the 7900 series is on par with consoles, the 8800 slaughters them blind.

I have a feeling youre posting from a PC? Yes? And that PC could be upgraded for cheaper than buying a new one yes?MTBare

Not really. Depending on the PC, he may have to get a new mobo, PSU, fans, all that jazz. It's not like you can take a 2 year old dell, and plop an 8800 gtx and a core2duo inside it and call it a day.

[QUOTE="Vampyronight"]Your theory would be true IF games on the PC maintained settings that would run on a console. However, we know this is never true- every year, the recommended specs for PC games goes up. Now, the games may look better, but at some point in time, YOU CAN'T PLAY GAMES. So while your computer may be perfectly capable of rendering 360/PS3 level of graphics, games are no longer even playable at those specs.Vandalvideo

I would be more inclined to agre with you if developers truely went for scalability. I applaud Valve for making HL2/Source extremely scalable and wish more developers would follow suit. Sadly, it doesn't seem that most devs don't even make their games work at all on the minimum specs (and sometimes not even the recommended specs).

If developers ever truly commit themselves to making their PC games scalable (say it will run on 4-5 year old hardware), then I would love to keep PC gaming as a backup. But I don't know if it's just me, but it seems as if PC games requirements are growing more rapidly than I recall before.

If developers ever truly commit themselves to making their PC games scalable (say it will run on 4-5 year old hardware), then I would love to keep PC gaming as a backup. But I don't know if it's just me, but it seems as if PC games requirements are growing more rapidly than I recall before. Vampyronight

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"]900 dollars is dirt cheap and I doubt you will be able to play Crysis on a computer at good resolutions, lower then most console graphics at least. You need at least an 8800 GTX which is like400 dollars alone, then you have to have the rest of the parts. The only way it is going to be cheap is if you use an AMD processor which costs half the price of most Intel's but they do not perform nearly as well.Meu2k7

A 8800 GTX is overkill , the 7900 series is on par with consoles, the 8800 slaughters them blind.

True. But for Crysis to get max settings like a console game would get maxsettings of a game, you would need a better GPU like the 9800 which is going to be rediculously overkill, but if it does get released and the 8800 GTX drops in price a lot (right now it's about 600 CAD), people will be able to run two of them in SLI which will probably be able to max out Crysis. Either way to get the max settings of that game will require a better card and more money spent, I would imagine even at the best settings that Crytek had the demo running on would still blow most console games away.

True. But for Crysis to get max settings like a console game would get maxsettings of a game, you would need a better GPU like the 9800 which is going to be rediculously overkill, but if it does get released and the 8800 GTX drops in price a lot (right now it's about 600 CAD), people will be able to run two of them in SLI which will probably be able to max out Crysis. Either way to get the max settings of that game will require a better card and more money spent, I would imagine even at the best settings that Crytek had the demo running on would still blow most console games away.DSgamer64