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#1 masterpinky2000
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Is it just me, or has Gamespot started handing out 9.5's like they're candy?

Of course it's possible that this is just an incredible season for game releases. Uncharted 2 is certainly the best game I've played this gen. I'm not a racing fan, but for all I know, Forza 3 could also be the pinnacle of that genre as well. But combine that with Ballad of Gay Tony and now Dragon Age: Origins (on PC, at least), and we've had 4 AAA+ titles within the span of three weeks!

Considering that Modern Warfare 2 and Assassin's Creed II are both debuting within the next two weeks, not to mention God of War Collection, I'm willing to bet we'll see another 9.5 out of that group as well.

Then look at the fact that 360 and PS3 combined have six 9.5's including multiplats (Oblivion was on both platforms, as was GTAIV, so I'm only counting those once) before Oct. 2009! If you include the PC, where they seem to have more rigorous review standards, it only gets bumped up to eight (World in Conflict and Crysis). It's crazy!

Are we just hitting the sweet spot of this generation? In three quarters -- Fall 2009 combined with the first two quarters of 2010 -- we could see as many AAA+ titles as the previous three years combined.

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#2 Sollet
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Maybe the games are really THAT good?
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#3 Next-Gen-Tec
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GS realises they overrated some games earlier this year, now to differentiate in quality they need to rate even higher for recent games.
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Maybe the games are really THAT good?Sollet
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#5 d_black
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You can't win in this place. If a game gets 8.5, its "teh flopperz" but if it gets 9.5 then Gamespot is setting their standards too low. Seriously dude, maybe some developers are just raising the bar (well, except Bungie who have been rehashing since Halo 2)

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#6 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Is it just me, or has Gamespot started handing out 9.5's like they're candy?

Considering that Modern Warfare 2 and Assassin's Creed II are both debuting within the next two weeks, not to mention God of War Collection, I'm willing to bet we'll see another 9.5 out of that group as well.

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GS won't review God of War Collection, since they didn't review Metroid Prime Trilogy.

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#7 jg4xchamp
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um you know how many 9.0s they did this year? Seriously gamespot has been friendly with review scores. However can you honestly blame gamespot's staff for loving some of the games this year?
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#8 Bread_or_Decide
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No. 9.5 = 9.5
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#9 shutdown_202
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No. 9.5 = 9.5Bread_or_Decide

This is all that needs to be said. Kind of reminds me when lemmings tried passing off 9.6 as the new 10 after Gears 1 review.

Oh and GOW collection wont be reviewed. You also forgot NSMBWii

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#10 mythrol
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I might agree with you that GS review standards have slacked just a bit. . . HOWEVER, GiantBomb gave Dragon Age a 5/5 so this game is just that good.
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#11 Bread_or_Decide
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I don't think I've ever disagreed with a gamespot when they gave a game stellar reviews.
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#12 masterpinky2000
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Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with their reviews per se. But GS was always traditionally the tougher site, 9.5's were extremely hard to come by, and a 9.0 here could easily be a 9.4+ on IGN. Now it seems like they are more in line with each other. Personally, the ODST 9.0 was a shocking score to me. Three or four years ago, GS would have slapped an 8.0 or 8.5 on that game for lack of originality or shortness of campaign, etc. Not saying it's a bad game, but GS's scale was such that an 8.0 or 8.5 really did mean it was a "great" game, whereas 9.0+ was reserved for only the elite.
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#13 WithoutGraceXII
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Gamespot scores seem pretty much in line with what other reviews say. I think we've just been very lucky this gen.
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#14 HarlockJC
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Just because there is a lot of games getting 9.5 does not mean their ratting of those games have changed at all. It's not uncommon for a number of great quietly games to come out this small period of time. There still a number of them yet to come out. So I expect we will see a couple other 9.5 games before the month is out.
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#15 salxis
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[QUOTE="masterpinky2000"]Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with their reviews per se. But GS was always traditionally the tougher site, 9.5's were extremely hard to come by, and a 9.0 here could easily be a 9.4+ on IGN. Now it seems like they are more in line with each other. Personally, the ODST 9.0 was a shocking score to me. Three or four years ago, GS would have slapped an 8.0 or 8.5 on that game for lack of originality or shortness of campaign, etc. Not saying it's a bad game, but GS's scale was such that an 8.0 or 8.5 really did mean it was a "great" game, whereas 9.0+ was reserved for only the elite.

Tom McShea's a known Halo fan so... Just lucky that ODST got reviewed by him, because from the podcast, at least 3 reviewers + 1 news guy disagree with the score lol
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#16 110million
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I'd have to agree with 9.5 = 9.5, so far every AAA I've played in recent times felt fully deserving of the score, there are weeks when nearly every movie coming out gets >80% on RT, its rare, but it happenes.
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#17 reaver-x
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i no wat u mean and many of the 9.0's ive seen lately arent even that good
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#18 heysharpshooter
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It because reviewers are not making big deals out of little things like fanboys and "hardcore 1337" gamers do. They are something we like to call professionals, and as professionals, they have to review games properly, not gripe about things people on forums whine about.

Games are just flat out better than they have ever been, and the review scores show it.

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#19 player_leo
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The Wii has brought down the standards for all next gen games. Thanks alot Nintendo !
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#20 Adrian_Cloud
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Not really, the main reason this is occurring is because publishers hold out until around the holiday season for their big releases to get more sales. Although i think that it would even out regardless, its a shame that they do this. There would be even more possible AAA titles if Conviction, Alan Wake, Bioshock 2, Mafia II, Starcraft II,MAG weren't delayed.
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#21 sikanderahmed
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yes its unbelievable how many games GS has overrated in past couple of days

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#22 FunkyHeadHunter
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Its really up to each individual to "score" a game. Dont leave your gaming up to someone else scores and opinions. I have played many games that have scored a 5 to a 7 and loved them. I have also played games that score 9-10 and didnt care for them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder..;)

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#23 dakan45
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Hmm, if mw2 gets a 9.5 i will agree (note: i love cod4, so no hate responses eh?)

Maybe the games are really THAT good?Sollet
Sure, the console verions of DOA worth 8.5 and the pc 9.5, not 9.0 but 9.5. So the game is far superior on pc? Ohh and if thats the case then why all those games outhere are not treated with the same score on pc?

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#24 Cherokee_Jack
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Sure, the console verions of DOA worth 8.5 and the pc 9.5, not 9.0 but 9.5. So the game is far superior on pc?dakan45

It's inferior on 360. If you didn't notice, the PS3 version got 9.0, so the PC version is superior to it by .5

It's not terribly surprising that the PC version of a WRPG is better than the console version.

On-topic: there have been quite a few 9.5s this year, it's true. I don't think there's anything behind it other than a lot of good games coming out.

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Its True, Forza 3 is the Racing Pinnacle of this Gen. :) 9.5 Deserved
Maybe the games are really THAT good?Sollet
This.
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#26 rogerjak
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People.....0.5 increments are to blame IMO.

Maybe the PC version deserved a 9.3 but to differentiate it from PS3 version they had to give it a 9.5.

And maybe....JUST MAYBE the games that are coming out really deserve the score they were awarded with. How about that?

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#27 DOF_power
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Dragon Age is overrated.

It's not like BG 1/2, (at times) it is BG 1/2.

The typical flaws of Bioware are all here. I can't kill the NPCs I want, unless there's script, because Bioware doesn't want me to kill its overly liniear storyline and run amok; let's not forget there's invisible walls, and spanws that appear only once you accepted a quest. Fetch and kill quests run galore, and of those better quests from the Fallout series are nowhere to be found (or if they are I haven't found them yet).

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(off topic a bit) 8.5 and above are really must buys, it annoys me when people only buy 9+. Some of my favorite games of all time where only in the 8's.
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GS realises they overrated some games earlier this year, now to differentiate in quality they need to rate even higher for recent games.Next-Gen-Tec
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I hope you don't actually believe that. :|
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#30 Shafftehr
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You can't win in this place. If a game gets 8.5, its "teh flopperz" but if it gets 9.5 then Gamespot is setting their standards too low. Seriously dude, maybe some developers are just raising the bar (well, except Bungie who have been rehashing since Halo 2)

d_black
Ironic they you in one breath say that developers are "raising the bar" and in the other you say "Bungie has been rehashing since Halo 2" - right after they have released a very different type of Halo game.
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#31 rolo107
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You can't win in this place. If a game gets 8.5, its "teh flopperz" but if it gets 9.5 then Gamespot is setting their standards too low. Seriously dude, maybe some developers are just raising the bar (well, except Bungie who have been rehashing since Halo 2)

d_black
Yeah, everyone is raising the bar, EXCEPT Bungie. No bias there.
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#32 PSdual_wielder
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Maybe by some chance there's just some really excellent games that came out in the same timeframe?

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#33 Too_tight_shoes
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Its just a coincidence that so many superb games released in the same quarter I dont think it would make a difference if they were all split out across the year they would still get superb scores regardless... the only thing that annoys me when this happens is that the could have been AAA games get underrated such as Borderlands such as superbly addictive shooter RPG that isnt buggy like the others in its genre and simply put its fun.
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#34 NielsNL
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Who cares. I go by my own judgement. And if I do have to name one website I'd trust it'd be Eurogamer.Ever since theKane & Lynch debacle I no longer take GS serious. he forum here is fun though.

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Maybe the games are really THAT good?Sollet
Most probably. Maybe it is that GS editors like fantasy RPGs a lot (see, Dungeon's Siege, Baldur's Gate, Diablo, WoW, Demon's Souls, etc.)
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#36 Hahadouken
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I think it's just Christmas gaming season, fairly deep into the consoles' life spans. Next year will be even better. They keep setting the bar higher and higher. Woot!
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#37 Renegade_Fury
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This is why I miss the old rating system. Now I know many people think that was too strict and so on, but I understood the difference between a 8.8 and a 9.0 game, and a 9.3 game and 9.5 one, etc.

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#38 wstfld
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(off topic a bit) 8.5 and above are really must buys, it annoys me when people only buy 9+. Some of my favorite games of all time where only in the 8's. SAGE_OF_FIRE
Anyone who has been playing Ratchet & Clank A Crack in Time sure knows what you're talking about. It might be the greatest below 9.0 game ever.
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#39 surrealnumber5
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id rather have mp3 or borderlands over any of the 9.5 or 10s here
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#40 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"](off topic a bit) 8.5 and above are really must buys, it annoys me when people only buy 9+. Some of my favorite games of all time where only in the 8's. wstfld
Anyone who has been playing Ratchet & Clank A Crack in Time sure knows what you're talking about. It might be the greatest below 9.0 game ever.

fe:RD is better
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#41 Burning-Sludge
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Standards have fallen for the graphics consoles.

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#42 RoOodriGowW
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[QUOTE="masterpinky2000"]

Is it just me, or has Gamespot started handing out 9.5's like they're candy?

Considering that Modern Warfare 2 and Assassin's Creed II are both debuting within the next two weeks, not to mention God of War Collection, I'm willing to bet we'll see another 9.5 out of that group as well.

charizard1605

GS won't review God of War Collection, since they didn't review Metroid Prime Trilogy.

Metroid Trilogy doesn't heat SW , I'm betting they'll review God of War Collection.

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[QUOTE="Next-Gen-Tec"]GS realises they overrated some games earlier this year, now to differentiate in quality they need to rate even higher for recent games.Messiahbolical-
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I hope you don't actually believe that. :|

Of course I do, IGN is the prime example of this. Their AAA scores are becoming meaningless. GS is getting close now. Games rarely score under the 5.0 mark, reviewers need to start using this more for bad games.
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#44 Next-Gen-Tec
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="masterpinky2000"]

Is it just me, or has Gamespot started handing out 9.5's like they're candy?

Considering that Modern Warfare 2 and Assassin's Creed II are both debuting within the next two weeks, not to mention God of War Collection, I'm willing to bet we'll see another 9.5 out of that group as well.

RoOodriGowW

GS won't review God of War Collection, since they didn't review Metroid Prime Trilogy.

Metroid Trilogy doesn't heat SW , I'm betting they'll review God of War Collection.

That doesn't heat SW, it's already deemed not exclusive.
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#45 ubergusterfan
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I'm not going to say I think their ratings have slacked, because they have rated poorly a number of games that I very much enjoyed, like Clive Barker's Jericho. That did not get a good rating, but I enjoyed that game, and it was the first PS3 title I was to play all the way through. Granted, I am pretty easy to please, and of all the PS2 and PS3 games I've played, I only did not like Gauntlet: Seven Sorrows, and the Untold Legends game that came out for the PS3, as they were both too simple and too easy. But I have also noticed that Gamespot scores are almost always lower than other sites, almost, not always, as I know there were some sites that did not think MGS: 4 was the pinnacle of console gaming like Gamespot thought it was, (and to which I am inclined to agree).

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[QUOTE="Sollet"]Maybe the games are really THAT good?CwlHeddwyn
x2

Or maybe the reviewer just thinks so. Feel free to come to your own conclusion.
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[QUOTE="jessesalinas"]Its True, Forza 3 is the Racing Pinnacle of this Gen. :) 9.5 Deserved
Maybe the games are really THAT good?Sollet
This.

How can you believe that when they are people wo say:

Dragon Age is overrated.

It's not like BG 1/2, (at times) it is BG 1/2.

The typical flaws of Bioware are all here. I can't kill the NPCs I want, unless there's script, because Bioware doesn't want me to kill its overly liniear storyline and run amok; let's not forget there's invisible walls, and spanws that appear only once you accepted a quest. Fetch and kill quests run galore, and of those better quests from the Fallout series are nowhere to be found (or if they are I haven't found them yet).

DOF_power
See what i did there?
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[QUOTE="jessesalinas"]Its True, Forza 3 is the Racing Pinnacle of this Gen. :) 9.5 Deserved
Maybe the games are really THAT good?Sollet
This.

Digging the avatar sig.
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#49 Toriko42
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Actually, that's just been a lot of amazing games coming out as of late..
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#50 Vaasman
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Dragon Age is overrated.

It's not like BG 1/2, (at times) it is BG 1/2.

The typical flaws of Bioware are all here. I can't kill the NPCs I want, unless there's script, because Bioware doesn't want me to kill its overly liniear storyline and run amok; let's not forget there's invisible walls, and spanws that appear only once you accepted a quest. Fetch and kill quests run galore, and of those better quests from the Fallout series are nowhere to be found (or if they are I haven't found them yet).

DOF_power

None of that stopped Bioshock from getting serious critical hype, so it shouldn't stop dragon age. Of course some of that isn't true anyway. Linear story? Seriously? I mean if you haven't played the game just say so.